Save Las Vegas Petition / Cancellation Rumors, Threads merged Options

[stacey1]

I agree, and it isn't even just about wanting Danny and Mary to reunite, although I do. It is also about spreading the storylines so that everyone gets more of an equal share. I want them to explore the character's lives more, as well as stay true to the idea that the show is about casino surveillance. I want to know about Mike's personal life, and Sam's too. I want Casey to come back, although that apparently isn't going to happen, and I want Mary, the character I've rooted for from day one, to finally get her man. I want Dellinda to go back to being that fantastic character she was from season one that spent all of her time driving her dad crazy. I just feel like so many potential storylines have been passed on in order to have every other episode be about Delinda getting kidnapped and Danny and Ed having to save her. It just feels a little tired thats all. Sorry if you don't all agree, this is just my humble opinion.

You may want mary to get her man, but I find mary more interesting and fun now that she isn't some pathetic little girl in a woman's body whining about how Danny treated her in HS. I know many liked that Mary, but many didn't. I like her better now. I don't care to see that old stuff drudged up. She never would accept Danny and have fun with him. She is sweet, but Danny is wild, and she makes him boring boring.

[MattAlbie]

I really don't want this show to end. I'll write in when I get the time.

[Emmy74]

The shows rating have been very good for Friday night. Crossng Jordan had it's highest rating of the season when Danny and Delinda - Not Danny and Mary came on. I like the writing this season, I was so sick of the land locked love boat with just having guest stars. It's way better. It's doing very well. it wins the demos and does well. So maybe some dary shippers are all mad, but a lot of people like it, and people did turn into Crossing Jordan even though Dared not to be with mary.

You seriously think that CJ's ratings were because it was Molly Sims and not Nikki Cox who guest starred? That's not really a fair assumption. And what's with the "Dared not to be with mary" nonsense? I think you're twisting some people's opinions and taking it a little too far. CJ's ratings have been dismal this season and the crossover gave them extra viewers because Vegas fans in general tuned in. I'm sure it would have done just as well if it had been Vanessa, Nikki or anyone else for that matter.

And if you were so sick of LV then why did you continue watching it? Maybe because you hoped it would improve to something you would enjoy? The same reason why people who don't really like it anymore keep hanging on.

[MattAlbie]

Molly Sims was on CJ? Can't believe I missed that. I like the crossovers.

[lasvegasfan]

Molly Sims was on CJ? Can't believe I missed that. I like the crossovers.

i'm upset i missed it too. there are some clips of it on the crossing jordan website here on nbc.com. i also found some images from the episode on that vegas website. http://lasvegas-theseries.com/Gallery/album90?page=1

[MattAlbie]

Thanks for the website link. Looked like a great episode.

[alexandrad06]

Thanks for the website link. Looked like a great episode.

It was. But that's because CJ is basically amazing.

[alexandrad06]

I really don't want this show to end. I'll write in when I get the time.

I don't want it to end either. This is my first season watching. And I like it.

[MattAlbie]

Las Vegas is a great show that has never been done before. It is as new and creative as ever.

[MattAlbie]

This show has never been done before. NBC always has to destroy shows like that.

[Emmy74]

Molly Sims was on CJ? Can't believe I missed that. I like the crossovers.

This was supposed to air in conjunction with the LV ep History of Violins, but since NBC tabled CJ until midseason it didn't really work out that way. My guess is that's why the scene at the end that sets up the Vegas continuation of the story was deleted from the ep and just posted on the NBC website.

[melur3]

The shows rating have been very good for Friday night. Crossng Jordan had it's highest rating of the season when Danny and Delinda - Not Danny and Mary came on. I like the writing this season, I was so sick of the land locked love boat with just having guest stars. It's way better. It's doing very well. it wins the demos and does well. So maybe some dary shippers are all mad, but a lot of people like it, and people did turn into Crossing Jordan even though Dared not to be with mary.

i agree with this one. this season is the best so far

[stacey1]

You seriously think that CJ's ratings were because it was Molly Sims and not Nikki Cox who guest starred? That's not really a fair assumption. And what's with the "Dared not to be with mary" nonsense? I think you're twisting some people's opinions and taking it a little too far. CJ's ratings have been dismal this season and the crossover gave them extra viewers because Vegas fans in general tuned in. I'm sure it would have done just as well if it had been Vanessa, Nikki or anyone else for that matter.

And if you were so sick of LV then why did you continue watching it? Maybe because you hoped it would improve to something you would enjoy? The same reason why people who don't really like it anymore keep hanging on.

I did NOT say that! I said that the statement about people tuning out because there is no dary and it hurting the show wasn't accurate when CJ had it's highest rating and it was not dary on that show, but Danny and Delinda. Not saying it got a higher rating because it was Molly, just saying that I don't think that most viewers are just tuning in for a couple. I really don't want to argue, just saying that not all viewers are sitting around just waiting for their couple, no matter which one. Some believe it or not just like the show, and think this season is the best, since the cast is featured and stories continue. Not everyone is a shipper for either couple. IMO the fact any cast member was on CJ and brought in ratings shows it's not about dary or anyone else!

[Emmy74]

I did NOT say that! I said that the statement about people tuning out because there is no dary and it hurting the show wasn't accurate when CJ had it's highest rating and it was not dary on that show, but Danny and Delinda. Not saying it got a higher rating because it was Molly, just saying that I don't think that most viewers are just tuning in for a couple. I really don't want to argue, just saying that not all viewers are sitting around just waiting for their couple, no matter which one. Some believe it or not just like the show, and think this season is the best, since the cast is featured and stories continue. Not everyone is a shipper for either couple. IMO the fact any cast member was on CJ and brought in ratings shows it's not about dary or anyone else!

If you don't want to argue then maybe you shouldn't make comments like "Dared not be with mary" which is rude and really didn't even make sense. As I said, the crossovers do well because you're combining viewers from two shows which naturally makes the ratings go up. Your post insinuated that the ratings were because it was D/D and not D/M. Who's to say they wouldn't have been even higher if it was D/M? I'm not saying they would have, but your statements in general just don't hold water in that regard.

Of course not everyone is watching LV for a couple, but some are and there's nothing wrong with that. I've seen a lot of discontent regarding the lack of D/M storyline and the general direction of the show (from non-shippers) on a lot of message boards all over the net. I've also seen a lot of message boards that used to be buzzing with activity on a daily basis go almost quiet or are down to only a handful of posters when it comes to discussing the episodes. Does that mean people are losing interest like some posters have said? Who knows, but if that's the case then it's even more sad for LV because the fans on the internet are the only ones who are aware of this write-in campaign and might actually follow through on it. I doubt the general viewing audience has any clue how close it is to getting the ax because it's just not a mainstream show that garners a lot of publicity.

[vegaslvrr]

First of all the internet is NOT a good indicator or popularity of a show. Not everyone goes on message boards and comments, even if they watch the show. That is why focus groups, and also ratings in general and demos are done. Most people are online, but many do not go on message boards talking about couples or the show. If you notice most message boards for couples are women, and that leaves out half of the population!

Also, Gary Scott Thompson did NOT say Dary would happen, I interpreted it as Mary was going to have really good material and show a lot of development this season, which she has. I love the changes in Mary. He did not say Dary would happen. People are reading into things. IMO as much as some people loved Dary, MANY I know didn't because of Mary's personality. So maybe the plan was to have Mary change and become stronger -which she has, so maybe if there was another season, or later on, they might try Dary, but I never saw a reason to get excited it might happen from GST's comments at all.

Really, for me I am more upset if the whole show is canceled. If the show is off, we won't have to worry about Dary or whatever!

I really am sick of the couples thing. I used to watch soaps and the fans did the same thing. freaking out if some fictional characters don't reuinite. Not everyone does that. And believe it or not, people don't all hate Delinda. Guys I work with love her. I know women who do too.

So really making assumptions from fan boards is not accurate.

[stacey1]

If you don't want to argue then maybe you shouldn't make comments like "Dared not be with mary" which is rude and really didn't even make sense. As I said, the crossovers do well because you're combining viewers from two shows which naturally makes the ratings go up. Your post insinuated that the ratings were because it was D/D and not D/M. Who's to say they wouldn't have been even higher if it was D/M? I'm not saying they would have, but your statements in general just don't hold water in that regard.

Of course not everyone is watching LV for a couple, but some are and there's nothing wrong with that. I've seen a lot of discontent regarding the lack of D/M storyline and the general direction of the show (from non-shippers) on a lot of message boards all over the net. I've also seen a lot of message boards that used to be buzzing with activity on a daily basis go almost quiet or are down to only a handful of posters when it comes to discussing the episodes. Does that mean people are losing interest like some posters have said? Who knows, but if that's the case then it's even more sad for LV because the fans on the internet are the only ones who are aware of this write-in campaign and might actually follow through on it. I doubt the general viewing audience has any clue how close it is to getting the ax because it's just not a mainstream show that garners a lot of publicity.

Sorry, didn't mean to be rude. But when you kind of insinuate the ratings are not good (when they are) and the show might be cancelled and say it's all about Dary, or that's a huge part of it, I simply was trying to say that that isn't true based on the fact Danny dared to not be with Mary - even though they have NOT had a relationship that is romantic for TWO seasons and Delinda and Danny have been being put together since Nov of 2005! It's still like Danny is committing a sin not being with Mary and it's destroying the show, and that's not the case. if peopel were so offended who watch LV, then they would not have made CJ's ratings the highest they had all season! So many would be so upset they would not have tuned in. Bot many do NOT care who Danny is with to that extent. And believe or not some like Danny and Delinda! I was NOT insinuation the ratings were good because it wasn't Dary, I was saying they weren't bad because Dary wasn't on - big difference. I think if Mary and Danny were on it would have been the SAME rating - a good one!

There is nothing wrong with watching for a couple. But you are reading message boards online, not everyone does go to them who watches the show. Many shows are talked about online like crazy and still get cancelled! the OC is talking about all over - it's ratings suck! I think it's all about Money in the end and if NBC wants to keep it or try other things, but it has a consistant good audience number. I see so many shows on Eonline and they are being talked about like crazy, mostly because they have a young female fan base who tends to go online, but they end up cancelled.

So saying Dary is so important in people making decisions to view, just doesn't add up to the numbers for ratings, it only shows on message boads which are a small portion of the viewing audiences. In fact I read statistically it's only about 15% of the audience.

Really, if this show is on the bubble, then what is the point of always being so angry if you don't see your couple. There is a good chance you will see NONE of the characters again. And really I get so tired of the arguing, that even though I did like Dary I don't want them anymore since some of the posters get over the top. Now before you jump and say I am saying it's you, I am not. i am talking about fans who say things like they were going to burn the tv guide with Danny and Delinda to the producer in his chat! IMO when it gets that extreme or people start turning it into a competition between Molly and Nikki - even though the actors aren't - then it's over the top and people aren't watching for a show, but to have some couple to dream about!

Anyway, this might all be a moot point. You may be all worried and afraid you won't get Dary and the show may already be cancelled. Molly sure sounded like that, so did Vanessa on Ellen, and Josh seems pretty much like he is ready for it. So calm down and enjoy the finale, it's probably the last time you will see Dary, or whatever and then you will have to just watch dvds!

[Emmy74]

It always seems like people are just "assuming" what the argument is without even really reading the posts. No one was saying that the ratings were bad because there was no dary. They were only speculating that they might be better if the people who had stopped watching were still tuning in. And do you really think if fans thought Danny was so horrible that they'd still want him to be with Mary? I've always thought that the characters of Delinda and Mary brought out different traits in the character of Danny and depending on which side of Danny you like, that's who you're going to prefer. You think Mary never let Danny be himself. I see her as the only one who ever put her own needs aside to support him no matter what. GST even said that in his commentary for the S1 finale. So we disagree--so what? Doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours.

Also, both of you completely misunderstood my point about the message boards yet ended up making my argument for me. The only place this write-in campaign is being talked about is on the message boards on the internet which according to you represents a very small percentage of the actual viewers of the show and even less now that interest on the internet as of late seems to be waning. How can something done on such a small scale be effective?

I don't want LV to be canceled because I don't want to be left with all these questions, but I can understand people who have not been enjoying it this season being indifferent to the whole thing. If people want to talk about couples until they're blue in the face who cares? I've never understood why posters basically get stereotyped and made fun of and then others are shocked when they try to defend themselves. If you're tired of the "arguments" then agree to disagree and stop "arguing" and provoking them. Obviously, there're two camps on this and I would bet money that there're just as many of "us" (if not more) as there are of "you" so just give your opinion and stop making others feel stupid for having theirs.

[Vegasorbust]

First of all the internet is NOT a good indicator or popularity of a show. Not everyone goes on message boards and comments, even if they watch the show. That is why focus groups, and also ratings in general and demos are done. Most people are online, but many do not go on message boards talking about couples or the show. If you notice most message boards for couples are women, and that leaves out half of the population!

Also, Gary Scott Thompson did NOT say Dary would happen, I interpreted it as Mary was going to have really good material and show a lot of development this season, which she has. I love the changes in Mary. He did not say Dary would happen. People are reading into things. IMO as much as some people loved Dary, MANY I know didn't because of Mary's personality. So maybe the plan was to have Mary change and become stronger -which she has, so maybe if there was another season, or later on, they might try Dary, but I never saw a reason to get excited it might happen from GST's comments at all.

Really, for me I am more upset if the whole show is canceled. If the show is off, we won't have to worry about Dary or whatever!

I really am sick of the couples thing. I used to watch soaps and the fans did the same thing. freaking out if some fictional characters don't reuinite. Not everyone does that. And believe it or not, people don't all hate Delinda. Guys I work with love her. I know women who do too.

So really making assumptions from fan boards is not accurate.

You are dead on right about these messege boards not being an indicator of how fans really feel. I know that for a fact because there are people on this board, like me who visit other sites regularly just for the fun of it. I work all day long on the computer with quite a bit of down time, so I spend it making the rounds just for fun. It's funny how the same people will post under different names on one board, and then you can go to another board and see the exact same comment from someone with another user name, and you just know it's the same person. That is fine as long as they are posting the same opinions, but there are quite a few who use different user names and then change from liking either Danny and Delinda to Danny and Mary. LOL There is one person in particular who logs onto this site, "LVTS," LV's official fan site, and "All That I Want", which is a very large Danny and Mary fansite. This person, who uses like four different names on Las Vegas the Series fansite, posts about how much she dislikes Mary and then actually goes over and logs onto the Dary fansite and talks about how much she loves Dary. Unfortunately she posts the exact same details about when and where she watches so that it would be obvious to a 5 year old that it is the same person. She posts the exact same anti mary rants on IMDb and on here too. So I know what you are saying about the internet not being a true gauge for fan following. I do think that it can be a somewhat useful tool at times though, and I think maybe writers and producers may visit these sites just for fun. I know that the Dary faniste just won an award for being one of the biggest fanlistings on the net, so there probably are some diehard fans who choose to use the internet to show their allegience to the show. I guess what I am trying to say is that they probably do look at the internet, but not as the only way of measuring fanbase. I hope that made some sense.

In regards to whether or not the show will get cancelled, there are other factors in play now. Here in Hollywood, near where I live, all they are talking about now is the preeminent writers strike that is set to happen around October. It seems very likely that it will occur, and shows like Grey's Anatomy are filming extra episodes to stockpile in order to be able to fill the fall season, in case of the strike. All of that could also have an effect on Las Vegas. NBC could say it just isn't worth the cost and expense to film all of these eps right away, and then just pull the plug. I hope not, but you never know.

One last thing. There are a huge amount of Danny and Mary fans, who don't want the show to get cancelled, myself included. We love all of the characters, we just wish they would reuinite Danny and Mary. That is no sin, in fact I think it's kind of cool that so many have stuck around as long as they have still hoping for something. I think the thing to be careful of is to assume that all Danny and Mary fans want Dary or nothing, or that they all hate Molly Sims. The same goes the other way, that all Danny and Delinda fans hate Mary. I am sure they don't. At the end of the day, it is just a show folks.

[stacey1]

I think that you Dary fans take it way too seriously. For you to assume that because people dont agree with you they are posting under other names is a little weird. I also don't see anyone who doesn't like Dary making obnoxious crazy remarks to the producer like Dary fans did during the chat.

Also he made those comments in SEASON 1 DVD!!!! Dary has NOT had a scene like that in over 2 years. Time passed, Dary didn't work and it's over for now.

I think the show is already canned anyway, so stop worrying about Dary.

[Emmy74]

I think that you Dary fans take it way too seriously. For you to assume that because people dont agree with you they are posting under other names is a little weird. I also don't see anyone who doesn't like Dary making obnoxious crazy remarks to the producer like Dary fans did during the chat.

Also he made those comments in SEASON 1 DVD!!!! Dary has NOT had a scene like that in over 2 years. Time passed, Dary didn't work and it's over for now.

I think the show is already canned anyway, so stop worrying about Dary.

I've seen those posts and it has nothing to do with whether posters are agreeing with you or not because this person posts on the dary site and says she's a dary shipper, but then posts on other sites that she's all for D/D. It's obvious and actually a little creepy.

One person out of hundreds in that chat made a stupid comment. There's some crazy person on another site saying they hope Mary (who they use horrible words to describe that are an obvious insult to Nikki) gets killed off because they don't like dary or their fans. Do you want to be lumped into a group with her?