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 Should a "Professional Performer" have won America's Got Talent? |
 Aug 22 2007, 01:03 AM
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While it's obvious that tonight's winner of NBC's "America's Got Talent" (Terry Fator), is quite talented, it doesn't seem very fair that a "professional performer" should win a contest filled with primarily amateur "talent". A quick search of the web, one will find that Terry Fator belongs to the talent agency of "Liz Gregory Talent & Productions". To quote from the Liz Gregory web site:
Terry Fator, World Class Impersonator, Comedian, Singer and Ventriloquist is a seasoned professional, who entertains all over the Country. He was named one of the top 5 "Male Entertainers of the Year" for 2006 by American Entertainment Magazine. Terry has a unique talent of making his "characters" sing like national singing stars and he does it "WITHOUT MOVING HIS LIPS." You will hear from stars like Garth Brooks, Elton John, the Rat Pack, Etta James, Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennett, Elvis, Richard Marx, James Blunt, Roy Orbison, Keith Urban, Nat King and Natalie Cole, Brooks and Dunn, Maroon Five, Tracie Chapman, Louis Armstrong and even Kermit the Frog, plus the infamous Michael Jackson complete with all of his dance moves. Hmmm....is it any wonder why Terry wasn't too impressed with the bonus prize of getting to perform in Vegas??? |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:09 AM
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Give it a rest folks and stop crying. He won the competition this year. Plain and simple.
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Aug 22 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (Eaglefan9727 @ Aug 22 2007, 01:09 AM)  Give it a rest folks and stop crying. He won the competition this year. Plain and simple. Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 01:15 AM) Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... I'll second that! |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 01:15 AM) Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... the same argument could be brought up about CAS and the fact he has an album out with his band......so the question is - should any of these shows have "professionals" on them.... you get ppl that have danced in concerts and videos on so you think you can dance.....Melinda was a professional back up singer on idol......i think if they have been "discovered" and/or been paid for performing in video's, concerts. albums...etc...that maybe they should not be on a show with amatuers....just my opinion |
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 Aug 22 2007, 01:23 AM
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first off where does it say AGT is an amateur show..and if you think that Terry Fator should not have been allowed to compete then why should Cas haley..the difference between an amateur and professional is the pay..if Cas haley's band Woodbelly has ever performed for pay or sold a cd then by definition he is not an amateur either.
I am of the opinion that of those performing the most talented one |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (dawneg2271 @ Aug 22 2007, 01:21 AM) the same argument could be brought up about CAS and the fact he has an album out with his band......so the question is - should any of these shows have "professionals" on them.... you get ppl that have danced in concerts and videos on so you think you can dance.....Melinda was a professional back up singer on idol......i think if they have been "discovered" and/or been paid for performing in video's, concerts. albums...etc...that maybe they should not be on a show with amatuers....just my opinion Yep, yep...I agree! It just comes across as a bit underhanded, by the show's producers. The show is basically billed as an amatuer talent contest.... |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 01:15 AM) Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... He has a promotional video as well doing impressions alone and with many of the puppets he used on AGT- he is called the "Human Jukebox". In some ways it does not seem fair to new talent like Julienne but the show screeners allowed him to compete. Cas has been a singer/songwriter for a long time and Paul Potts in Britain appeared as an amateur in productions before his big break on BGT. Makes it easy on the judges to separate the wheat from the chaff.... although they still lumped Boy Shakirah and the bollywood dancer in the top 20 with TF and CH. I thought it was cute that Sharon and David had on sock puppets when TF did the Roy Orbison act at the end; of course sour puss Piers did not play along. |
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Aug 22 2007, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (Jim K @ Aug 22 2007, 01:23 AM) first off where does it say AGT is an amateur show..and if you think that Terry Fator should not have been allowed to compete then why should Cas haley..the difference between an amateur and professional is the pay..if Cas haley's band Woodbelly has ever performed for pay or sold a cd then by definition he is not an amateur either. I am of the opinion that of those performing the most talented one that is what i was trying to say...that if they are going to state that Fator shouldn't have performed because he was a "professional" that the same could be said for Cas....it was my understanding the show is for undiscovered talent....i could be wrong..... needless to say the top 4 were all the most talented.....it all comes down to an individuals taste and evidently the portion of Americans that voted liked Fator..... |
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Aug 22 2007, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (dawneg2271 @ Aug 22 2007, 02:29 AM) that is what i was trying to say...that if they are going to state that Fator shouldn't have performed because he was a "professional" that the same could be said for Cas....it was my understanding the show is for undiscovered talent....i could be wrong..... needless to say the top 4 were all the most talented.....it all comes down to an individuals taste and evidently the portion of Americans that voted liked Fator..... No, the show is for ratings--in whatever way they can get them. They will gladly use professional talent. The earlier point about putting Julienne up against seasoned professionals is a good one. She doesn't stand a chance in that setting. The show is a joke if someone is looking for fairness and legitimacy. |
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Aug 22 2007, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 01:15 AM) Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... You need to go back through these pages. We have been posting on threads like this for weeks about who is legitimate to compete. Start by finding the big ruccus about the Duttons. |
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Aug 22 2007, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 02:15 AM) Yes...Terry won! Yes...he's talented, but that wasn't my point. You might want to go back and actually read my posting, before commenting... I read your post the first time, So I know what you said perfectly clear. You made a comment about Terry being a seasoned professional which is fine, But look at Cas Haley. He has a album out, So you dont call him a professional at what he does. Or how about Butterscotch who is the beatboxing champion. You dont call that being a professional either. Out of the 4 in the finals, There was only one that had really none going for her and that was Julienne Irwin and it showed when she was the first one to go last night. Look at the people who was on the show that didnt make it to the finals. Most of them has some kind of talent that made them profesional performers. Some of the acts were The Duttons, Jason Pritchett, Fallon, and Sideswipe just to name a few. Youre just upset, Because america voted for Terry to win and not your favorite, So that is why youre trying to use a excuse of fairness or not on this show. |
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Aug 22 2007, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE (Scaught @ Aug 22 2007, 02:03 AM) While it's obvious that tonight's winner of NBC's "America's Got Talent" (Terry Fator), is quite talented, it doesn't seem very fair that a "professional performer" should win a contest filled with primarily amateur "talent". A quick search of the web, one will find that Terry Fator belongs to the talent agency of "Liz Gregory Talent & Productions". To quote from the Liz Gregory web site: Terry Fator, World Class Impersonator, Comedian, Singer and Ventriloquist is a seasoned professional, who entertains all over the Country. He was named one of the top 5 "Male Entertainers of the Year" for 2006 by American Entertainment Magazine. Terry has a unique talent of making his "characters" sing like national singing stars and he does it "WITHOUT MOVING HIS LIPS." You will hear from stars like Garth Brooks, Elton John, the Rat Pack, Etta James, Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennett, Elvis, Richard Marx, James Blunt, Roy Orbison, Keith Urban, Nat King and Natalie Cole, Brooks and Dunn, Maroon Five, Tracie Chapman, Louis Armstrong and even Kermit the Frog, plus the infamous Michael Jackson complete with all of his dance moves. Hmmm....is it any wonder why Terry wasn't too impressed with the bonus prize of getting to perform in Vegas??? I agree with this but I also acknowledge the other professionals, as noted in several responses, in the program as well. Can you imagine college football or other NCAA sports if they allowed professionals to participate? |
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Aug 22 2007, 07:50 AM
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He probably wasn't very excited with winning the gig in Vegas because he just won a million dollars.
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Aug 22 2007, 07:54 AM
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Oh God, not this crap again!
Terry Fator once performed a show where only one person showed up. You call that professional? Before AGT, his website offered him for bookings for corporate events -- that is NOT what I would call professional. Cas Haley is professional too -- he sang in bars before he sang on AGT. Is that "too professional" for AGT? For the last time, anyone that WANTS to compete SHOULD BE ALLOWED to compete. |
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Aug 22 2007, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (Terastas @ Aug 22 2007, 07:54 AM) Oh God, not this crap again! Terry Fator once performed a show where only one person showed up. You call that professional? Before AGT, his website offered him for bookings for corporate events -- that is NOT what I would call professional. Cas Haley is professional too -- he sang in bars before he sang on AGT. Is that "too professional" for AGT? For the last time, anyone that WANTS to compete SHOULD BE ALLOWED to compete. Agreed. Not again. It really bothers me that people are too lazy to read what has already been done to death. |
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Aug 22 2007, 08:00 AM
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Yes to you two.
 = Old Terry Fator. Man. HOW UNFAIR. And if you go look on youtube, it shows Terry performing at some person's school. Once again. HE SHUDD B DISKWALLIFYED. |
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Aug 22 2007, 08:12 AM
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I never heard anything about having to be an amateur to enter the competition...
is this some fantasy little rule we are making up? -------------------- ..::Congratulations Terry Fator, new AGT2 winner!:.. Favs: Butterscotch, Terry Fator, Cas Haley |
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Aug 22 2007, 09:44 AM
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The competition was open to anyone, professionals and amateurs alike, so why should'nt a professional be able to win when he was the one who got the most votes? Many of the acts that were in the competition were professionals.
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Aug 22 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (SlapShot @ Aug 22 2007, 10:44 AM) The competition was open to anyone, professionals and amateurs alike, so why should'nt a professional be able to win when he was the one who got the most votes? Many of the acts that were in the competition were professionals. I hope Springsteen tries out next year. Or, maybe the Stones... |
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