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[Insider]

Hellos to all the readers who have been on this spoiler journey with me. I need to take a little time to address some issues and consolidate all my facts into one thread. First off, I have never visited a single Heroes related forum until I got these infos. When I did post them under the spoiler section on this forum, I assumed it would stay here and I could reply back to the questions and speculations that arose from it. What I did NOT expect was that people would be taking my direct quotes or copying what I’ve said here and taking it to other sites. I know, it’s something I should of predicted but just didn’t think about. What I’ve noticed on many other sites is that by the time you get to page 2, or 3, it’s no longer, “Showdown between Hiro and Peter” but it’ll turn into “Hiro, Nathan, Matt vs. Peter!” There have been so many errors simply because the info I’ve originally laid out gets trickled down into wrong and distorted information. What I’ve also noticed is how the ‘non-believers’ will just about find ANYTHING to prove you are wrong. A lot of the posts are claiming that all the infos I’ve laid out ‘have been around on the forums for a long time.’ Ok, for the sake of the argument let’s say they have been around and that’s where I got my infos from. But if that’s the case, how am I able to give an exact description on a character, or what’s happening during that scene? Another big argument, ‘Oh, the name Adam Monroe’s been around for a long time.’ Ok, fine, I personally have never heard of it but how did I have the answer that he is in fact the killer and he also happens to be Kensei. Enough non-sense. For the users who regularly post on other sites, just copy and paste the below information to those sites. Or simply provide a link to this post. I am simply asking you, it is your choice if you’d like to or not. I am only registered on THIS forum and will continue to stay here. I am tired of defending myself, I am definitely tired of all the bashings and I am tired of reading my own quotes so distorted from what I originally wrote. Thanks to the few supporters who haven’t posted vile, negative and just down right hatred posts.

Recap:

*Episode 11 is titled ‘POWERLESS’

*Look for our intro of Earth spinning (during title HEROES scene) to just abruptly stop. (due to continuation of Hiro’s time freeze from the previous ep.)

*Kensei is immortal, he cannot be killed. His name will no longer be known as Kensei but ADAM MONROE. The original 12 have betrayed him in the past and Kensei/Adam will be taking revenge upon the original 12. And yes, it’s still David Anders playing the Kensei/Adam part. But gone are the samurai outfits replaced by sharp looking suits.

*Peter will be helping Kensei/Adam at Primatech to get/destroy the virus. By this point, Peter has seen the future and the devastation of the virus. He has come to this particular time/place with Adam to destroy the virus. He knows it will kill pretty much everybody. What he doesnt know is Adam's true intention for the virus.
When asked by Hiro why he’s helping Adam, Peter claims that Adam is his friend. And also mentions that Adam saved Nathan’s life. Hiro will try to convince Peter that he was betrayed by Adam 400 yrs ago and that he will betray Peter also. Hiro is also trying to avenge his father’s death since Adam’s the one who killed him, along with the other older generations. Peter will argue back letting Hiro know that Kaito’s the one who had Adam locked away for 30 yrs. He will mention that he was also in the same prison. Peter clearly states that he does not want to hurt Hiro.

The showdown at Primatech will mainly be between Hiro and Peter since Adam will be frozen in time. They are also not alone in this room, there are Primatech employees who’ll be frozen in time during this. The swings Hiro throws will be blocked by Peter telekinetically.
When Hiro has the sword to Peter’s throat, Peter will shock his sword with electricity knocking him out. Adam will shortly ‘reclaim’ his sword coming out of being frozen.

*Matt will ‘fly.’ Ofcourse with the help of Nathan to Primatech. Keep your ears perked up for a hilarious comment Matt makes once they land.

Matt will inquire to Nathan about just how dangerous Peter is. (comparing him to the Kirby Plaza incident.) Nathan informs Matt that he himself hasn’t seen Peter since that night. Matt is trying to explain to Nathan that Angela gave him instructions on how to kill her own son Peter. IF NEED BE!!! Nathan won’t hear any of it and basically tells Matt that he will handle Peter if he’s a problem. Hiro will join in with Nathan and Matt.

*Peter is opening the vaults, straining himself, even bleeding from his nose in trying. He will instruct Adam to get the virus. Its at this point Hiro will attempt once again to stop Adam, Peter. But Peter’s belief within Adam is so strong he will stop Hiro.
Matt will join in and tells Peter (mentally) to let go of Hiro and go after Adam instead. Peter seems to follow his direction but he will resist (mentally) to Matt.

*Nathan will release Angela from jail. Angela will be pretty much the only one left out of all her ‘friends’/original 12. The latest victim being Victoria Pratt. Matt will be the one who’ll find Victoria’s body in Maine along with the photo with the ‘death mark’ across her face. Angela explains to Nathan and Matt that it’s done and over with, Adam is wanting revenge and she feels defeated and its over. It’s at this point Nathan will explain to Angela that Peter is still alive.

*Hiro will take his defeat in shame back to Japan where Ando is. He will have failed his father and let the virus get out.

We’ll also find out the fate of Adam. He’ll be buried alive next to Kaito’s grave in a metal coffin also reinforced with a concrete casket. Look for our favorite rodent, the infamous cockroach, to make his little cameo.

*Look for Nathan to give an ‘unoffical’ speech addressing the world regarding the virus outbreak that happens in Odessa, TX. Nathan clearly states to the persistent reporter to find someone who’s in charge, not him. He will NOT want to give this speech and only does so when he is pushed by a reporter named Bruce Evans. All the reporters will be broadcasting his speech from the police station in Odessa, TX. This reluctant speech will be broadcasted throughout the world and be viewed by our heroes.
In his speech, he’s mentioning how brave the people in this town have been by locking themselves in for the safety of the rest of the world. It’ll be quite inspirational and uplifting. Also, you’ll see why the ep. title is called POWERLESS through Nathan here.
Viewing this, we’ll see Molly is with Suresh at Isacc’s Loft also with Maya and Elle. Also viewing this at her home is Claire, and she’ll be relieved to see Peter on screen with Nathan and will find out he is indeed still alive.

*Look for Nathan on becoming sick. How sick, how severe, or how minor, not giving out that info. (after his speech)

*Someone named HYPE will bring down the restaurant with Monica in it. He will set a fire to this building. Ultimately, Niki will sacrifice herself for Monica.
Yes, it’s Niki dying in the fire.

*Elle will be the one to bring down Sylar this season and emerge as the ‘Hero.’

[Nicholette_Kelly]

AWESOME! Thanks Insider! I, for one, totally and completely enjoy your spoilers. Woo-hoo! Bring it on!!!

[Nimie]

Thanks for this Insider.
It's greatly appreciated

[fabcos]

Are you certain that Niki won't come back and she is gone for good? If so bummer that we lose her for the other character!

[blackdog3428]

As long as Matt, Mohinder, and Molly get through their crap okay - I'm good. But I hope Nathan isn't in too much trouble either. Thanks for laying it all out clearly. I did notice someone had posted your other info on spoiler tv when I was over there looking for clips - but it wasn't me. I only post spoilers here.

[hirokilla]

Now why the F*** couldnt you just do that from the start it makes hella lot more sense when you put it out like that!! not some stupid drawn out crap of bits and pieces . but I still think Maury Parkman has a bigger role Hence he is worse than sylar and is evil

[rout345]

Insider, thanks for the info. I have a couple of questions, though:

1) How do they finally defeat Adam/Kensei? Do Hiro and Peter end up working together?

2) Why does Peter resist Matt and Hiro? I'm finding it so hard to understand why he'd be so convinced of Adam's goodness that he'd go against them.

[ppthenuke]

Thanks and don't let some others get to you. At 9th Wonders its only a few, most of us are just waiting to see what happens!

[hirokilla]

Wich one in the pic of the 12 is ADAM MONROE ( AND DONT SAY ITS F***** Peters Dad !! ). cause its not Well Insider???? if you could tell me why hes not in the pic Ill praise you up and down!

[Insider]

thanks to the kind thank yous everyone.

fab, all i know is niki is suppose to die in the fire. far as people speculating her being part of the 'death with a twist' i dont know for sure. but count on her dying.

hiro, come back and post when you can show a little more respect for others. this will be last time i reply to you if your tone continues.

rout, i believe i covered this many times. kensei/adam is immortal, so he cant be 'killed.' that's why hiro will be burying him alive instead. far as peter's involvement in his burial, not sure 100%.

thanks all again, and many thanks to the few people who's kindly taken my posts to the other forums.

p.s. black, i never thought it was you on spoilertv.

[Crispy Ego]

Insider....Great job am looking forward to seeing these episodes..couple of questions

1. Is this just from episode 11 or 10 also?

2. Was wondering if you new how Maury dies? Since it sounds like he dies before this episode and all of the twelve except for Angela are fertilizer by the endof episode 11

Once again great job and continue posting I am having a great time with this. Before I would just read the forums but because of this I have started to post. Thanks

[Insider]

Insider....Great job am looking forward to seeing these episodes..couple of questions

1. Is this just from episode 11 or 10 also?

2. Was wondering if you new how Maury dies? Since the rest of the twelve will be killed off by then.

Once again great job and continue posting I am having a great time with this. Before I would just read the forums but because of this I have started to post. Thanks

crispy, its mainly from ep.11. but very few elements are from ep.10.
and nothing on maury.

[Crispy Ego]

Wich one in the pic of the 12 is ADAM MONROE ( AND DONT SAY ITS F***** Peters Dad !! ). cause its not Well Insider???? if you could tell me why hes not in the pic Ill praise you up and down!

If you read his post you'll realize that he was betrayed by the twelve already and probobly in Kaito's prison at the time of the photo. Hence he is not in the picture.

crispy, its mainly from ep.11. but very few elements are from ep.10.
and nothing on maury.

Thanks Insider

[Guest123]

Thanks, Insider.

It was really nice of you to go to all the trouble to compile all of that for us.
And we didn't get you anything!

I just love all this info you've given us.
Maybe I'm weird, but it doesn't 'spoil' anything for me...I will enjoy looking for all these things to happen.

Thanks again!

[amplification]

Thanks Insider.
I'm so sad about Nikki leaving the show, I wonder what she will be working on now.

[Nimie]

Yeah it is sad to see Niki go but if none of the original characters left it would seem unrealistic. Poor Micah will be crushed.

[Magwitch]

Thanks, Insider, for providing all these spoilers!

It's good to know that Adam will only be incapacitated, and not killed outright. Not only does it mean that his legend will continue, but it leaves open the possibility that someone will find or rescue him sometime in the future, and Anders will return - more vengeful than ever!

I heard recently from another source that Christian Camargo (from Showtime's "Dexter") might be joining the show as a recurring character. Do you happen to know anything about this?

Edited to add: I can think of lots of things that the Company might have done to Kensei/Adam while they were keeping him prisoner. (HRG pretty much foreshadowed this when he was cautioning Claire about what they'd do to test her powers if she was caught. Now imagine all the ways you could test immortality if you also had abilities...) But I think that eventually, they would have just been keeping him locked up because the alternative - letting him go, after all that they'd done to him - was too scary to contemplate. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

[thephenom]

thanks insider again..this is great to know..haha now we all wonder how do we get there..guess we got to watch and find out..im most curious to see how elle takes down sylar and why, i dont think she kills him but i dont see how she wont..thats gonna be interesting

[jscruiser2000]

Thanks for posting all of your spoilers. Do you have more to post later? I hope so because they are very interesting to read. Don't let the haters get you down. There are many of us who appreciate your info.

[bifteckballa]

thanks Insider, the spoiler is great..i enjoy reading your posts

knowing WHATS going to happen makes it more exciting for me...because its still weeks away, and we're not yet sure how this all builds up to take place, or where it goes from there...but i do have to admit, i really enjoy reading other people's theories/speculations/thoughts..even if it's only that and not for certain...i hope other posters will not hesitate to reply with their theories, even if it contradicts with Insider's information...its entertaining getting on here and seeing posters battling it out from their own speculations