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post Feb 25 2008, 09:49 PM
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JayLeno over the last 30 days he has said a total of 120 nasty to extremely nasty jokes and derogatory things about Hillary, even in one sketch a Hillary look alike was licking behind the ear of some guy that looked like Dick Chenney! OTOH, he has had about 30 light negative jokes/comments about McCain and ONLY one against Obama. To be exact that one against Obama was not really derogatory, it was both good & bad. Anyway 120 negative comments about Hillary and ONLY one about Obama. Check JayLeno monologue over last 30 days, which you can download from NBC, and you will see that the above numbers are fact.

The question is why this total one sided & organized attack by Jay Leno and in fact every segment of the Big Media in US? From the lunatic Right wing TalkRadio to BillOriely to Jay?

Is it because they know in a general election Obama cannot beat MacWar?
And this is their under handed way of ensuring that the Iraq war will continue and our Taxes will continue to be wasted on an unnecessary War that only benefits Israel, and the Warmongers, rather than our Taxes being invested in American people/society?

You can read much more about this here on my news Blog?
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post Feb 29 2008, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (MaxInfo @ Feb 25 2008, 09:49 PM) *
JayLeno over the last 30 days he has said a total of 120 nasty to extremely nasty jokes and derogatory things about Hillary, even in one sketch a Hillary look alike was licking behind the ear of some guy that looked like Dick Chenney! OTOH, he has had about 30 light negative jokes/comments about McCain and ONLY one against Obama. To be exact that one against Obama was not really derogatory, it was both good & bad. Anyway 120 negative comments about Hillary and ONLY one about Obama. Check JayLeno monologue over last 30 days, which you can download from NBC, and you will see that the above numbers are fact.

The question is why this total one sided & organized attack by Jay Leno and in fact every segment of the Big Media in US? From the lunatic Right wing TalkRadio to BillOriely to Jay?

Is it because they know in a general election Obama cannot beat MacWar?
And this is their under handed way of ensuring that the Iraq war will continue and our Taxes will continue to be wasted on an unnecessary War that only benefits Israel, and the Warmongers, rather than our Taxes being invested in American people/society?

You can read much more about this here on my news Blog?
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_selected_ar....php?article=96

I think he and the rest of the late night "men" are just sexist pigs. They claim to be so into women's rights and equallity till some woman has the guts to come along and prove we women are just as powerful as men, even better then them. Jay, you want to prove you're not a sexist pig? Then quit beratting Hillery on every little stupid thing she does. Hell, the idiots at the last debate appladed that rude idiot for blowing his nose while Hillery was answering a question. But I guess that's the kind of crap Leno, Letterman and the rest of the media go for. Big Bubba kind of behavior. ph34r.gif
By the way, why is Obama ashamed of his middle name? Maybe there's more to it if he's that upset over someone simply saying it. We don't need to go through another 4 - 8 years of some duffus "deciding" what we the people can and cannot say. Also, why hasn't he mentioned being proud of his mother who raised him on her own after his father walked out on them? Oh, that's right, he's too busy writing about fulfilling his father's dreams to care about her and all she did for him. Mr. Obama, if you're not ashamed of your mother for some reason, act like it. Write a book about her dreams, especially the ones she had to let go after your father left the two of you. mad.gif sarcasm.gif
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post Mar 1 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Immortalmortal @ Feb 29 2008, 01:14 AM) *
I think he and the rest of the late night "men" are just sexist pigs. They claim to be so into women's rights and equallity till some woman has the guts to come along and prove we women are just as powerful as men, even better then them. Jay, you want to prove you're not a sexist pig? Then quit beratting Hillery on every little stupid thing she does. Hell, the idiots at the last debate appladed that rude idiot for blowing his nose while Hillery was answering a question. But I guess that's the kind of crap Leno, Letterman and the rest of the media go for. Big Bubba kind of behavior. ph34r.gif
By the way, why is Obama ashamed of his middle name? Maybe there's more to it if he's that upset over someone simply saying it. We don't need to go through another 4 - 8 years of some duffus "deciding" what we the people can and cannot say. Also, why hasn't he mentioned being proud of his mother who raised him on her own after his father walked out on them? Oh, that's right, he's too busy writing about fulfilling his father's dreams to care about her and all she did for him. Mr. Obama, if you're not ashamed of your mother for some reason, act like it. Write a book about her dreams, especially the ones she had to let go after your father left the two of you. mad.gif sarcasm.gif


Sexist pigs? Think your going a bit too far, let's face it Clinton is a bigger target and easier to get a lugh out of than Obama. It's not liek McCain, Huckabee, Romney and others haven't been bashed to death it's just because Clinton is a woman you guys are taking it so to heart. She's run a poor campaign and so she's easier to amke fun of. Name 5 Obama jokes you can say that are funny, now think of 5 Clinton jokes, 5 McCain jokes, 5 Romney, Huckabee, Edwards, Gravel, Dobbs. Yes some of the jokes are big misses but they get a reaction form the crowd.
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post Mar 1 2008, 08:32 PM
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"As Margaret Thatcher once said "If you want anything said, ask a man.

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You mentioned Obama jokes? Here are 5 that made me laugh.

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"Isn't that amazing, Obama and Cheney related? Dick Cheney now has more blacks and gays in his own family than in the entire Republican Party." --Jay Leno

"During an interview, Vice President Dick Cheney's wife said that Vice President Cheney and Barack Obama are actually distant cousins. When Dick Cheney found out, he said, 'I knew there was something creepy about that guy.'" --Conan O'Brien

"Barack Obama said today that politics has become too gummed up by money and influence ... and then he had to leave to attend a fundraiser." --Jay Leno

"Momentum continues for Barack Obama's campaign. Actually, do you know what Barack Obama's middle name is? Hussein. Could've been worse. Could've been Kerry." --Jay Leno

"Presidential candidate Barack Obama says he's going to quit smoking. Which is good news for Hillary Clinton. Now that he's breathing down her neck, she won't have to worry about second-hand smoke." --Jay Leno


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post Mar 1 2008, 11:53 PM
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^Well then I don't knwo what the argument is Leno makes fun of all the candidates. This thread has no relevancy then.
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post Mar 3 2008, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE (IconMatthew1 @ Mar 1 2008, 11:53 PM) *
^Well then I don't knwo what the argument is Leno makes fun of all the candidates. This thread has no relevancy then.

I still say he's a sexist pig. He won't really go after Obama because he's afraid of being called a racist as well. Everyone knows that's a big no-no. But if you want to be sexist, that's o.k.
Hey, I feel the same way about Bill Mahar. And he was so promising with his current show. At least until he opened his sexist, whinny mouth. sarcasm.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 01:31 AM
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Are you for real or just really brain dead!

NO HE DOES NOT make fun of Obama.
That was my point. If you had read it.
That is as of when I posted this post he made 120 Jokes about Hillary during
the last 30 days and maybe 1 about Obama. Since then a week has gone by,
he has made about 14 Hillary jokes and again 0 about Obama.
Cant you count? Or can you deny the fact this amazing lack of symmetry
as exhibited by Leno and entire Big Media in US has other ominous reasons behind it.
That is once Obama has the Democratic nomination then they will unleash vicious
jokes against him and much worst to ensure that McWar is elected and as a result
the Iraq War will go on, and more of our Taxes will be wasted on Military/War
rather on fixing what are so WRONG with this country.

QUOTE (IconMatthew1 @ Mar 1 2008, 11:53 PM) *
^Well then I don't knwo what the argument is Leno makes fun of all the candidates. This thread has no relevancy then.
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post Mar 4 2008, 02:06 PM
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As stated earlier Hillary's back is agianst the ropes she'es easier to make fun of, plus there is more ammo with Bill Clinton notice most of the jokes are directed towards Bill being a sleaze ball.
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post Mar 5 2008, 07:10 PM
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Really, she's just a lousy candidate.

I'm a woman, and I certainly would not vote for her. People fall to pieces with "If you don't support Hillary, then you don't support women."

This is out and out bull. I think a woman can make as great a president as any man. But this, specific person, would be horrible for this country. I wouldn't vote Clinton '08 whether Hillary was a woman or a man.

Please stop trying to turn everything into being about being sexist, racist, or any other kind of ~ist. Some candidates are just better than others, and not caring to vote for them isn't a crime against their gender or race.
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QUOTE (MaxInfo @ Mar 4 2008, 01:31 AM) *
Are you for real or just really brain dead!

NO HE DOES NOT make fun of Obama.
That was my point. If you had read it.
That is as of when I posted this post he made 120 Jokes about Hillary during
the last 30 days and maybe 1 about Obama. Since then a week has gone by,
he has made about 14 Hillary jokes and again 0 about Obama.
Cant you count? Or can you deny the fact this amazing lack of symmetry
as exhibited by Leno and entire Big Media in US has other ominous reasons behind it.
That is once Obama has the Democratic nomination then they will unleash vicious
jokes against him and much worst to ensure that McWar is elected and as a result
the Iraq War will go on, and more of our Taxes will be wasted on Military/War
rather on fixing what are so WRONG with this country.


You're absolutely correct, Jay does tell many more jokes (if you can call them that)
about Hillary than Obama. Why? Perhaps he's a man who finds it easy to derisively joke about women. I certainly got that impression of him watching him being interviewed by Charlie Rose many years ago. Sorry I can't provide you with any details, but I'm not comfortable writing about stuff like that.

CCC -- I don't mean to be critical, but your 4th joke is really against Kerry and your 5th joke is really against Hillary.
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post Mar 6 2008, 02:26 PM
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It's true Hillary is a pretty bad candidate and playing some dirty politics she has personal friends voicing support for Obama, what does that tell you?
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post Mar 10 2008, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (IconMatthew1 @ Mar 1 2008, 11:53 PM) *
^Well then I don't knwo what the argument is Leno makes fun of all the candidates. This thread has no relevancy then.


It kind of lost it's relevancy when she actually went & counted all the jokes about Hillary. Pretty lame!

Is this what we get? Women acting like wimpering messes when another poor little woman is joked about?

I seriously wonder if women still need to have the right to vote when I read shallow crap like this...and I'm one of them.
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post Mar 10 2008, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (WoWFTW @ Mar 5 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Really, she's just a lousy candidate.

I'm a woman, and I certainly would not vote for her. People fall to pieces with "If you don't support Hillary, then you don't support women."

This is out and out bull. I think a woman can make as great a president as any man. But this, specific person, would be horrible for this country. I wouldn't vote Clinton '08 whether Hillary was a woman or a man.

Please stop trying to turn everything into being about being sexist, racist, or any other kind of ~ist. Some candidates are just better than others, and not caring to vote for them isn't a crime against their gender or race.


Totally and completely! To vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, shows your lack of intelligence. Quite frankly, people like this should really be on Battle of the Jaywalk Allstars.
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post Mar 11 2008, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (glassa1 @ Mar 10 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Totally and completely! To vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, shows your lack of intelligence. Quite frankly, people like this should really be on Battle of the Jaywalk Allstars.


Who ever said just because she is a Woman!
You should Vote for Hillary because:
1- She has stated she will end the Iraq war, which means ending $20Bill of our Taxes being wasted per month, and 1000s of Iraqis being killed and Terrorized every day due to our unjust occupation of that country, an occupation that the World finds unjust & criminal; as well as of course more US troops getting killed, OTN: 4000 US Troops killed to date and 30,000 injured
2- She has stated she will bring Universal Health care, as every civilized country in the World has
by now except US which is one of the main reasons US economy is doing so badly vs Europeans, etc.

And the other point is who are you going to Vote if not Hillary, for McWar to continue wars, wasting of our Taxes and ruin of our economy as a result!

Check out this News Blog on for great Articles on above critical issues:
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_articles.php
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I am upset as well and quit watching. I cannot stomach this one sided sexist pig remarks. I used to like Jay too and he has sorely disappointed me. GET REAL JAY!

QUOTE (MaxInfo @ Feb 25 2008, 09:49 PM) *
JayLeno over the last 30 days he has said a total of 120 nasty to extremely nasty jokes and derogatory things about Hillary, even in one sketch a Hillary look alike was licking behind the ear of some guy that looked like Dick Chenney! OTOH, he has had about 30 light negative jokes/comments about McCain and ONLY one against Obama. To be exact that one against Obama was not really derogatory, it was both good & bad. Anyway 120 negative comments about Hillary and ONLY one about Obama. Check JayLeno monologue over last 30 days, which you can download from NBC, and you will see that the above numbers are fact.

The question is why this total one sided & organized attack by Jay Leno and in fact every segment of the Big Media in US? From the lunatic Right wing TalkRadio to BillOriely to Jay?

Is it because they know in a general election Obama cannot beat MacWar?
And this is their under handed way of ensuring that the Iraq war will continue and our Taxes will continue to be wasted on an unnecessary War that only benefits Israel, and the Warmongers, rather than our Taxes being invested in American people/society?

You can read much more about this here on my news Blog?
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_selected_ar....php?article=96
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post Mar 11 2008, 09:07 PM
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I completely agree with this as well. Where are the Obama jokes? At least Letterman makes some. Jay is history on my Tivo. I refuse to watch him.

QUOTE (Immortalmortal @ Mar 3 2008, 03:53 AM) *
I still say he's a sexist pig. He won't really go after Obama because he's afraid of being called a racist as well. Everyone knows that's a big no-no. But if you want to be sexist, that's o.k.
Hey, I feel the same way about Bill Mahar. And he was so promising with his current show. At least until he opened his sexist, whinny mouth. sarcasm.gif rolleyes.gif
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The main reason to choose Hillary over Osama is that she has something he does not. The experience he does not have. To have this twit in a suit whose only accomplishment is speeches as president scares the hell out of me... I think we would be better off with McCain!!

QUOTE (MaxInfo @ Mar 11 2008, 12:16 AM) *
Who ever said just because she is a Woman!
You should Vote for Hillary because:
1- She has stated she will end the Iraq war, which means ending $20Bill of our Taxes being wasted per month, and 1000s of Iraqis being killed and Terrorized every day due to our unjust occupation of that country, an occupation that the World finds unjust & criminal; as well as of course more US troops getting killed, OTN: 4000 US Troops killed to date and 30,000 injured
2- She has stated she will bring Universal Health care, as every civilized country in the World has
by now except US which is one of the main reasons US economy is doing so badly vs Europeans, etc.

And the other point is who are you going to Vote if not Hillary, for McWar to continue wars, wasting of our Taxes and ruin of our economy as a result!

Check out this News Blog on for great Articles on above critical issues:
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_articles.php
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You're part of the biased media, aren't you? It's all okay if Hillary is bad mouthed, but god forbid Osama beind said anything AGAINST! Appalling.

QUOTE (glassa1 @ Mar 10 2008, 12:10 AM) *
It kind of lost it's relevancy when she actually went & counted all the jokes about Hillary. Pretty lame!

Is this what we get? Women acting like wimpering messes when another poor little woman is joked about?

I seriously wonder if women still need to have the right to vote when I read shallow crap like this...and I'm one of them.
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post Mar 15 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (ebmom @ Mar 11 2008, 09:10 PM) *
You're part of the biased media, aren't you? It's all okay if Hillary is bad mouthed, but god forbid Osama beind said anything AGAINST! Appalling.


Huh? I can't figure out what you're trying to say here. whew.gif

No, I'm not part of the media...I only wish I made that much money.

And if you're accusing me of being for Obama...LOL!!!! No, I try to stay away from people who consider racist hatemongers to be their spiritual advisors.

Quite frankly, I don't like any of our choices.
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QUOTE (MaxInfo @ Mar 11 2008, 12:16 AM) *
2- She has stated she will bring Universal Health care, as every civilized country in the World has
by now except US which is one of the main reasons US economy is doing so badly vs Europeans, etc.


You have no idea what you're asking for here.
Have you ever gotten anything of quality from the federal government? They can't even get Social Security right. They can't even get national disaster emergencies right! What makes anybody think they can get something SO important like healthcare right? Besides, are you forgetting what a mess the VA system is in? If they can't treat our veterans, what makes you think they'd give a d@mn about the rest of us?

That's a hell of a lot of power to give to politicians!

If they "give" you anything, they can just as easily take it away. YOU are responsible for your life, not the government. If you want nanny state to treat you like a child, there's always Britain.

Speaking of Britain, we've seen how farked up their Universal Healthcare system is...that's why so many people are worried. There are more people here. Britain can't handle it. Canada can't handle it. And you want to bring it here and make everyone equally miserable? blink.gif

Several months ago, I heard a Canadian woman on the radio talking about their "wonderful" healthcare system. Her daughter (a toddler at the time) had some sort of condition that needed treatment. Well, of course, there's a waiting list for seeing doctors & getting treatment in Canada. Her daughter ended up dying as a result of that waiting list.
A year or 2 later, her husband got sick, and he needed treatment. Goody, another waiting list. They decided, while waiting, that they'd visit some friends in Texas. While in Texas, they figured they'd see about getting the husband to a doctor. The doctor saw & treated him (with no months long waiting list) and he was fine. But, the doctor said that had he waited like Canada wanted him to, he would not have survived.
So, this lady lost her daughter and almost lost her husband due to Universal Healthcare. And don't fool yourself into believing our government could do it better. Our government does very few things better.

Access to a waiting list is NOT access to healthcare!
And don't fool yourself. A waiting list is exactly what you'd get under Hillarycare. If Canada's healthcare system was so jolly good, why do so many of them come here to get lifesaving treatment instead of "waiting their turn" for months at home? There are even plenty of people from Europe that come here. There's now even a medical tourism industry with specific travel agencies just for people who need treatments!
For that matter, even non-lifesaving treatment takes months to get. Last I heard it was 15 months or so just to get a hip or knee replacement. That alone can affect your life to the point where you cannot function due to the pain. Making people in such excrutiating pain that they can't walk, wait over a year for treatment...such compassion.

We may not have a perfect system, but it's a hell of a lot better than that! I'd suggest you do your research. I've seen plenty of British people who are VERY unhappy with that system. Free healthcare is a misnomer. Somebody has to pay for it (WAY high taxes) and it might just cost you your life. And if you don't think it's possible, think about the waiting lists our veterans already have with the government healthcare in the VA.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22healthca...art=10&sa=N

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Universal Healthcare is NOT the utopia heaven that Michael Moore (propagandist for money) makes it out to be.
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