Why is JayLeno so one sided in his Savaging of Hillary Clinton! Options

[jlaw258]

JayLeno over the last 30 days he has said a total of 120 nasty to extremely nasty jokes and derogatory things about Hillary, even in one sketch a Hillary look alike was licking behind the ear of some guy that looked like Dick Chenney! OTOH, he has had about 30 light negative jokes/comments about McCain and ONLY one against Obama. To be exact that one against Obama was not really derogatory, it was both good & bad. Anyway 120 negative comments about Hillary and ONLY one about Obama. Check JayLeno monologue over last 30 days, which you can download from NBC, and you will see that the above numbers are fact.

The question is why this total one sided & organized attack by Jay Leno and in fact every segment of the Big Media in US? From the lunatic Right wing TalkRadio to BillOriely to Jay?

Is it because they know in a general election Obama cannot beat MacWar?
And this is their under handed way of ensuring that the Iraq war will continue and our Taxes will continue to be wasted on an unnecessary War that only benefits Israel, and the Warmongers, rather than our Taxes being invested in American people/society?

You can read much more about this here on my news Blog?
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_selected_ar....php?article=96

[jlaw258]

Good night nurse -don't you have anything better to do than count the # of jokes each candidate has had made by Jay Leno? Perhaps you should go get a job or another job.

[MaxInfo]

Moron, 1st why do you think I am woman! I am not. I am a man.

2nd, you Rich Little, I give you numerical facts as to how bias Jaylenos coverage of Hillary
vs Barak is and you have so nothing to say in your reply that you criticize why I am providing
numerical facts in support of my argument.
And because I provide numerical facts then, IF I was a Woman, which I am not, then
"that would make you wonder Why woman got the right to vote..."!

You must be one of those lunatic Republicans who knows in a general election MaCWar will have a chance vs Obama while he would have no chance vs Hillary JUST due to his support of the Iraq war which Hillary has promised to end within few days of taking office.

It kind of lost it's relevancy when she actually went & counted all the jokes about Hillary. Pretty lame!

Is this what we get? Women acting like wimpering messes when another poor little woman is joked about?

I seriously wonder if women still need to have the right to vote when I read shallow crap like this...and I'm one of them.

[MaxInfo]

Same here ebmom.
I have stopped watching JayLeno too, and it was the ONLY thing that I was
watching on Network TV.
Now I am only watching Food Channel and Animal Planet.
Only 2 places that you are not lied to, one lie after another about Iraq War, about us
having the best health care while we have one of the worst in the civilized world because
we have no Universal health care, etc. etc. lies, which lies enabled and enable lunatic Republicans
to be elected and thus ruin our economy & lives. You can read my articles in this
regards on my Blog here:
www.anoox.com/myblog/real_news

I am upset as well and quit watching. I cannot stomach this one sided sexist pig remarks. I used to like Jay too and he has sorely disappointed me. GET REAL JAY!

[MaxInfo]

How brain washed are you lunatic Republicans to say this non-sense that you say?

1st, IF you think Government cannot get anything right, then lets have the Military not run by the government either and have it be privately funded? And lets have the courts, the Police, the coast guard, etc. all be privately funded and not off of our Taxes.

2nd, EVERY civilized nation in this world by now has Universal health care, WHY can they get it right and our government is so corrupt that it cant get something as basic and as necessary as health care right?

3rd, US Dollar & economy are going down the toilet compared to Europeans who do have Universal health care, Universal education and other socialized services, as EVIDENT by US Dollar that has lost an amazing 50% vs Euro. HOW MUCH MORE evidence do you want that the European model where a few KEY industries are run on a socialized basis is better than the US model? You want US Dollar another 50% down vs Euro so Oil is $200 per barrel for us while it is still 50 Euros per barrel for them? So Trillions of Dollars more will leave US assets for Europe due to ever falling US Dollar?


You can read much more about all of this on my Blog here:
www.anoox.com/myblog/real_news

You have no idea what you're asking for here.
Have you ever gotten anything of quality from the federal government? They can't even get Social Security right. They can't even get national disaster emergencies right! What makes anybody think they can get something SO important like healthcare right? Besides, are you forgetting what a mess the VA system is in? If they can't treat our veterans, what makes you think they'd give a d@mn about the rest of us?

That's a hell of a lot of power to give to politicians!

If they "give" you anything, they can just as easily take it away. YOU are responsible for your life, not the government. If you want nanny state to treat you like a child, there's always Britain.

Speaking of Britain, we've seen how farked up their Universal Healthcare system is...that's why so many people are worried. There are more people here. Britain can't handle it. Canada can't handle it. And you want to bring it here and make everyone equally miserable?

Several months ago, I heard a Canadian woman on the radio talking about their "wonderful" healthcare system. Her daughter (a toddler at the time) had some sort of condition that needed treatment. Well, of course, there's a waiting list for seeing doctors & getting treatment in Canada. Her daughter ended up dying as a result of that waiting list.
A year or 2 later, her husband got sick, and he needed treatment. Goody, another waiting list. They decided, while waiting, that they'd visit some friends in Texas. While in Texas, they figured they'd see about getting the husband to a doctor. The doctor saw & treated him (with no months long waiting list) and he was fine. But, the doctor said that had he waited like Canada wanted him to, he would not have survived.
So, this lady lost her daughter and almost lost her husband due to Universal Healthcare. And don't fool yourself into believing our government could do it better. Our government does very few things better.

Access to a waiting list is NOT access to healthcare!
And don't fool yourself. A waiting list is exactly what you'd get under Hillarycare. If Canada's healthcare system was so jolly good, why do so many of them come here to get lifesaving treatment instead of "waiting their turn" for months at home? There are even plenty of people from Europe that come here. There's now even a medical tourism industry with specific travel agencies just for people who need treatments!
For that matter, even non-lifesaving treatment takes months to get. Last I heard it was 15 months or so just to get a hip or knee replacement. That alone can affect your life to the point where you cannot function due to the pain. Making people in such excrutiating pain that they can't walk, wait over a year for treatment...such compassion.

We may not have a perfect system, but it's a hell of a lot better than that! I'd suggest you do your research. I've seen plenty of British people who are VERY unhappy with that system. Free healthcare is a misnomer. Somebody has to pay for it (WAY high taxes) and it might just cost you your life. And if you don't think it's possible, think about the waiting lists our veterans already have with the government healthcare in the VA.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22healthca...art=10&sa=N

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Universal Healthcare is NOT the utopia heaven that Michael Moore (propagandist for money) makes it out to be.

[glberg]

Will Rogers told political jokes that were clever and witty. Jay's jokes and skits about Hillary are sexist and mean spirited, usually remarks about her pants suits, her age, and if her husband is sleeping with her. Imagine the jokes, if Hillary wore, for an entire year, only a black suit. In contrast, Jay's jokes about Barack are just cute, he even put in a plug, letting people know when Barack would be on The View. I’ve never heard a Hillary supporter stoop to that level and ridicule Barack. It’s questionable why NBC lets Jay get away with this free advertising every night.

[glassa1]

Moron, 1st why do you think I am woman! I am not. I am a man.

2nd, you Rich Little, I give you numerical facts as to how bias Jaylenos coverage of Hillary
vs Barak is and you have so nothing to say in your reply that you criticize why I am providing
numerical facts in support of my argument.
And because I provide numerical facts then, IF I was a Woman, which I am not, then
"that would make you wonder Why woman got the right to vote..."!

You must be one of those lunatic Republicans who knows in a general election MaCWar will have a chance vs Obama while he would have no chance vs Hillary JUST due to his support of the Iraq war which Hillary has promised to end within few days of taking office.

Well, first of all, I assumed you were a woman because usually, women are the ones who would be petty enough to count the number of jokes made about their chosen candidate.

Not quite sure why you're calling me Rich Little.

Not a loony Repub. Not a real fan of McCain, but of the three, he's the least of all evils.
I can't imagine how Hillary thinks she could "end the war" within a few days of taking office. That's just politico-speak (saying anything you want to get a vote). In reality, what that would do is leave the Iraqi people as sitting ducks for a hostile takeover causing many more deaths than has already occurred. It's just unrealistic and I don't think most people who want us to leave immediately understand what that would mean to the people over there.

And to be honest, if it's McCain vs. Hillary...I really don't think McCain would have much trouble beating her. Quite frankly, many of her former supporters are now supporting Obama. That should tell you something. She has pretty high negative numbers. Most people see her for the fraud she is (staying with Bill after he humiliated her with Monica proved that...and lying about snipers in Bosnia). No real feminist would stay with an abusive loser husband like that. She stayed with him for the power. And if it's not for the power, then she's a brow-beaten wimp with no self-respect.

Obama would be harder to beat because anytime someone criticizes or questions him all he or his supporters have to do is scream racism. It's already happened with the preacher debacle. I was impressed with him when I first saw him speak, then I learned more about him & his politics and the association with a hatemongering racist preacher for 20 years.

[glassa1]

How brain washed are you lunatic Republicans to say this non-sense that you say?

1st, IF you think Government cannot get anything right, then lets have the Military not run by the government either and have it be privately funded? And lets have the courts, the Police, the coast guard, etc. all be privately funded and not off of our Taxes.

2nd, EVERY civilized nation in this world by now has Universal health care, WHY can they get it right and our government is so corrupt that it cant get something as basic and as necessary as health care right?

3rd, US Dollar & economy are going down the toilet compared to Europeans who do have Universal health care, Universal education and other socialized services, as EVIDENT by US Dollar that has lost an amazing 50% vs Euro. HOW MUCH MORE evidence do you want that the European model where a few KEY industries are run on a socialized basis is better than the US model? You want US Dollar another 50% down vs Euro so Oil is $200 per barrel for us while it is still 50 Euros per barrel for them? So Trillions of Dollars more will leave US assets for Europe due to ever falling US Dollar?
You can read much more about all of this on my Blog here:
www.anoox.com/myblog/real_news

No brainwashing. Just research and listening to people who are subject to Universal Healthcare. But it's nice to know that anyone who disagrees with you...you consider brainwashed. Tolerance?

1st: Government running military? The Iraq War hasn't gone so well until now. You wanna rethink that?
Courts, police & Coast Guard? Who else could do that? We don't really have a choice.

Other than that, look at Social Security. For that matter, have you not heard about the problems the Veterans Administration is having? They have a backlog of Veterans and can't get them medical treatment. If the federal government can't handle the medical treatment of our military, what makes you think they can do any better with the Average Joe? Again, not brainwashing, just paying attention to the news and actually thinking about what it could mean to me if I was the one subject to their "treatment"

The majority of the things the federal government tries to do, they can't. Remember the bridge that collapsed last year? Then we found out the majority of bridges in the United States are in disrepair and may not be safe to use. And let's not forget Katrina. Not only was the disaster flubbed up by all levels of government (starting with Chocolate City's Ray Nagin...idiot extraordinairre), but it all started with the Army Corps of Engineers who built the levy wrong in the first place.

So, you may have this deep faith in the federal government, but it's completely misguided. I work in the healthcare system as a biller. Medicare recipients have to get certain treatments & diagnostic procedures authorized. When I worked in ENT, one lady needed a PET Scan to check & make sure cancer hadn't spread. Medicare said no. The federal government is a big part of the problem with our healthcare system. They reject payments on services needed, and they deny certain procedures a patient needs. If you want to give the government power over your body and life like that, then by all means, move to Canada.
This isn't brainwashed Republican BS, this is real life experience.

2nd: The countries who DO have Universal Healthcare are having problems administrating it and granting healthcare to everyone. Some areas don't have enough doctors because of the constricting regulation by their government. Canada and Britain have severe problems.
And yes, our government is WAY to corrupt to handle something as important as healthcare.

Now, I assume you're in your 20s and not old enough to remember the early 90s when Hillary first tried to force government healthcare on us. If you paid attention then, you would know why it failed. She actually wanted to tell doctors where they could practice medicine! And, if you didn't like her form of medical care, too bad...you'd be in violation of the law if you tried to find a doctor & paid for it out of pocket. She wanted to do some scarey stuff.

3rd: Your argument that the dollar is falling because we lack socialized services is crap. We've had strong economies in the past without the nanny government and we'll have it again. The economy goes in cycles. Right now it's down. It will go back up again.
As for your barrels of oil... I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers, but it doesn't change the fact that in many places in Europe, they still pay $5 or more per gallon of gas. A lot of that is government regulation and taxes.
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

With all of this said, I hope that you have or get a 401K with any job you get (talk to human resources). Because Social Security won't be there for you & me. Yes, that's corrupt too. They don't have that money separate from the rest. They use it just like they use the rest of our taxes. Forget about that lock-box, it doesn't exist. There aren't enough of us to support the Baby-Boomers. So unless you think you can live on $300 per month, I suggest you prepare for retirement now. Otherwise, you'll only have yourself to blame. Social Security wasn't meant to be enough to live on anyway. Just a supplement.

I hope you're young. Otherwise, I can't figure out your idealistic utopian world. It doesn't and will never exist. It's just not realistic.

[glassa1]

One of the funniest things in this whole campaign is Hillary saying she can bring REAL change. What a bunch of garbage! How is it change to go from Bush to Clinton, to Bush and back to another Clinton? LMAO, she's just more of the same crap!

If you want a true change for this country, vote for a Libertarian!

[MaxInfo]

There are so many arguments in your post void of actual facts and intelligence that is pointless to actually addressing them all. It is obvious that you are one of these people that has been brain washed by the lies and lies of the right wing lunatic Republicans Talkradio and similar filthy information sources in US. But I will just reply to one of your points, that is:

"Your argument that the dollar is falling because we lack socialized services is crap."

I did not say that Dollar has fallen an amazing 50% vs Euro and currency of every developed nation just because we do not have Universal (socialized) health care THAT THEY ALL DO.
That is ONE of the reasons WHY US Dollar and economy are doing so bad compared to the rest of the World. The other reasons in super summary are:
1- Iraq War that is wasting $20Bill of our money per month AND causing the World to boycott American goods,
2- Our Taxes are not invested in our people and country as they do in Europe,
Plus more.

For complete reasons and steps that we need to take to set the US Dollar and economy right again, check out this Blog:
http://www.anoox.com/news/show_selected_ar...php?article=140

[synch]

just because we do not have Universal (socialized) health care THAT THEY ALL DO.

I could care less about most of your post, since I disagree so profoundly it's almost disgusting. This, however, I couldn't let go without discussing/debating/arguing.


Have you ever, at any point, talked to someone who's lived under Universal Healthcare?

Funny, because I've talked to several who came to the States because, for a price, they could have life saving, or at least life altering, surgery far quicker than under their "superior" health care.

Get this: Under "Universal Healthcare" you're put on a waiting list for life saving surgery. You have to wait your turn, and then you get it done. For surgeries to deal with severely painful, even debillitating, problems you get to wait even longer. Months, even years, of waiting for them to get to you.

For a price, I can go out and schedule an appointment tomorrow to have my eyes fixed within a week.

Which one sounds better?

[NOtonight]

MaxInfo - I've stopped watching Leno on 4/10 because of his trashing of Hillary and appreciate your statistics. Do you or anyone have contact info for the suits at NBC so I can let them know?

[NOtonight]

Contact info for suits at NBC?

I'd like to contact the suits at NBC to let them know that I've stopped watching Leno, as of 4/10, because of his very unfunny one-sided trashing of Hillary. Does anyone have contact info for the suits at NBC so I can let them know?

[glassa1]

There are so many arguments in your post void of actual facts and intelligence that is pointless to actually addressing them all. It is obvious that you are one of these people that has been brain washed by the lies and lies of the right wing lunatic Republicans Talkradio and similar filthy information sources in US. 1- Iraq War that is wasting $20Bill of our money per month AND causing the World to boycott American goods

Well, part of me is starting to agree with the people who want us to leave. I mean, they're Muslims, if they want to kill each other off...let them. It's what they do best. Who cares about them anyway? Isn't that what you're saying?

Oh, and it's nice of you to label anyone who disagrees with you as "brainwashed" No, I'm certainly not capable of coming to my own conclusions based on my OWN experience am I?

[bryfree]

I didn't read much of the posts in this thread because of all of the political debating involved, which usually leads nowhere, but I would like to add that I have really noticed over the past few months that there are very few negative Obama jokes, and many many more negative Hillary and McCain jokes.

I noticed specifically the other night, where one joke (sorry, can't remember the specifics) included a comment about all three candidates. The comment about Obama was that he was Hawaiin. The comments about Hillary and McCain were both very negative. This is just one example, but it is clear that the show's writers or Jay Leno himself are reluctant to say much negative about Obama.

I wish they would be a little more even in their negative jokes about the candidates. Otherwise, it starts to seem like the show is politically driven, and if I want to watch that, then I will flip over to the news channels and watch the talking heads.

I rarely watch Dave Letterman anymore for this very reason. He used to be my favorite, but I got tired of all of the political nonsense.

[synch]

1: Leno supports Obama. No secret. This is not a news/political show- thus, he doesn't have to be "fair."

2: I'm not an Obama supporter, so don't take this wrong, but Obama missteps much less often than Hillary. Translation: Hillary makes it easier to target her,,,

[Shenandoah]

1: Leno supports Obama. No secret. This is not a news/political show- thus, he doesn't have to be "fair."

2: I'm not an Obama supporter, so don't take this wrong, but Obama missteps much less often than Hillary. Translation: Hillary makes it easier to target her,,,

You can say Jay doesn't have to be 'fair', but people expect him to be 'fair' (as you can see by postings on this board by people disappointed in him) and it's not that they want him to be for THEIR candidate of choice, they just want him to be 'fair'. Who he votes for is of no consequence to anyone, except possibly Kevin and the band, and I'm guessing, but I don't think they really care who he votes for either -- they don't need him, he's superfluous. He's been making an unnecessary spectacle of himself.

[glassa1]

I think the writers are probably part of the decipleship that is the Obama-messiah. The fawning over this man is just stupid.

[synch]

You can say Jay doesn't have to be 'fair', but people expect him to be 'fair' (as you can see by postings on this board by people disappointed in him)

Based on the fact that there are actually very few people who are posting in here, I can safely say that fewer people want him to be fair than want him to be funny.

And Hillary makes it easy to be funny at her expense.

[Shenandoah]

Based on the fact that there are actually very few people who are posting in here, I can safely say that fewer people want him to be fair than want him to be funny.

And Hillary makes it easy to be funny at her expense.

Correct! ... there's a lot more people posting on this board that Jay's NOT funny.