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> Poor Pathetic EJ..., where is your self respect?
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post Aug 15 2008, 02:42 PM
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Sami's only willing to give you a chance (no promises, no declarations of love...for YOU that is) because Lucas, the man she DOES LOVE doesn't want to be with her anymore.

I can't believe EJ is such a LOSER!


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post Aug 15 2008, 02:47 PM
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EJ has none and in that reguard he and Sami are quite perfect for eachother since she has none either,EJ seemed to get some when he told off his father ages ago,but now its gone again.


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post Aug 15 2008, 02:52 PM
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EJ's happy to have Lucas' left overs. At least EJ doesn't have to fight for Sami anymore cause Lucas doesn't want another helping.




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post Aug 15 2008, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 02:42 PM) *
Sami's only willing to give you a chance (no promises, no declarations of love...for YOU that is) because Lucas, the man she DOES LOVE doesn't want to be with her anymore.

I can't believe EJ is such a LOSER!



Her stating she cant make any promises....is reality! Is he a loser because he possibly will not choose the easy Nicole in the elevator? What guy wants the town tramp forever? He made no promise to her...she just happened to be at the right place, at the right timer. This heart broken guy paid some attention to her - BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS STUCK IN THE ELEVATOR WITH HIM!!! No female in her right mind, with any regards to her self worth would sleep with someone who she KNOWS loves someone else...and even calls her by that name!
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:03 PM
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EJ is being pathetic because after over TWO YEARS he's still Sami's second choice.

Sami told EJ AGAIN that she loves Lucas and ALWAYS WILL.
EJ needs to dump that sorry sack of snivels!


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:04 PM
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Why is it necessary to call Nicole names? What she's doing is certainly no less pathetic than what EJ is doing. In fact, Nicole at least seems to be aware of the seeming hopelessness of loving EJ, while EJ never seems to realize that he's never going to be anything but second best with Sami. (And I say that as a person who has no desire to see Lumi together).
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (sjga @ Aug 15 2008, 03:58 PM) *
Her stating she cant make any promises....is reality! Is he a loser because he possibly will not choose the easy Nicole in the elevator? What guy wants the town tramp forever? He made no promise to her...she just happened to be at the right place, at the right timer. This heart broken guy paid some attention to her - BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS STUCK IN THE ELEVATOR WITH HIM!!! No female in her right mind, with any regards to her self worth would sleep with someone who she KNOWS loves someone else...and even calls her by that name!



so many of these haters now of ej thought him taking the easy skinky in the elevator to forget what sami had just done made him manly...no that was the weakened ej..the ej who has honestly asked and accepted an honest answer is the man with self respect again..

as for nicole, her pride is now being mopped up off the floor, and she could have gotten it back again by making ej face up to what he really wanted in that elevator instead of opening up her legs as a way to buy his love..it didnt work, and he is back where he belongs..
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 03:03 PM) *

EJ is being pathetic because after over TWO YEARS he's still Sami's second choice.

Sami told EJ AGAIN that she loves Lucas and ALWAYS WILL.
EJ needs to dump that sorry sack of snivels!


So...Nicole is pathetic for being second choice for EJ???? Same situation, this would make both EJ and Nicole pathetic...not good traits for pairing! One of the partners has to be worthy, and with your definition of pathetic related to EJ....it defines Nicole pathetic as well.
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *

EJ is being pathetic because after over TWO YEARS he's still Sami's second choice.

Sami told EJ AGAIN that she loves Lucas and ALWAYS WILL.
EJ needs to dump that sorry sack of snivels!


rolling.gif ....Lucas took off because EJ is Sami's first choice. He saw it, sucked it up for as long as he could, finally had his fill, and bowed out. That actually gave me a little new respect for Lucas.

What Sami says and what Sami does/feels are 2 different things. Sami Brady 101. It's been that way since 1993.






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post Aug 15 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 04:03 PM) *

EJ is being pathetic because after over TWO YEARS he's still Sami's second choice.

Sami told EJ AGAIN that she loves Lucas and ALWAYS WILL.
EJ needs to dump that sorry sack of snivels!


Sami says a lot of things. "I'll never sleep with you again" comes to mind. "EJ, you are irrelevant." "Lucas is the love of my life." "EJ means nothing to me." Her actions speak louder than her words most of the time. But I think what she said to EJ in the stairwell was honest. Remember what Colleen (as Sami's subconscious) said to her when she was marrying EJ--Sami doesn't do anything she doesn't want to do. What Sami sees in EJ is (paraphrasing here) "danger, desire like nothing she's ever known, and the freedom to be who she really is." That's scary for Sami, because who she really is is the anti-Brady.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (sjga @ Aug 15 2008, 04:07 PM) *
So...Nicole is pathetic for being second choice for EJ???? Same situation, this would make both EJ and Nicole pathetic...not good traits for pairing! One of the partners has to be worthy, and with your definition of pathetic related to EJ....it defines Nicole pathetic as well.



Nicole hasn't been waiting TWO YEARS for EJ to get over Sami.
Now THAT would be pathetic...and oh yeah...EJ!

Sami: I love him... and I always will. But he doesn't...want to have anything to do with me, and I have to deal with that and... move on.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (jensworld @ Aug 15 2008, 04:09 PM) *
rolling.gif ....Lucas took off because EJ is Sami's first choice. He saw it, sucked it up for as long as he could, finally had his fill, and bowed out. That actually gave me a little new respect for Lucas.


Exactly!


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (jensworld @ Aug 15 2008, 04:09 PM) *
rolling.gif ....Lucas took off because EJ is Sami's first choice. He saw it, sucked it up for as long as he could, finally had his fill, and bowed out. That actually gave me a little new respect for Lucas.

What Sami says and what Sami does/feels are 2 different things. Sami Brady 101. It's been that way since 1993.


Spot on!

Lucas said himself, "you are in love with him, Sami". And for those who did not see that epi, "him" is EJ. Lucas has known it for quite some time.

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post Aug 15 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Tishmanspeyer @ Aug 15 2008, 02:06 PM) *
so many of these haters now of ej thought him taking the easy skinky in the elevator to forget what sami had just done made him manly...no that was the weakened ej..the ej who has honestly asked and accepted an honest answer is the man with self respect again..

as for nicole, her pride is now being mopped up off the floor, and she could have gotten it back again by making ej face up to what he really wanted in that elevator instead of opening up her legs as a way to buy his love..it didnt work, and he is back where he belongs..


Exactly!!


QUOTE (jensworld @ Aug 15 2008, 02:09 PM) *
rolling.gif ....Lucas took off because EJ is Sami's first choice. He saw it, sucked it up for as long as he could, finally had his fill, and bowed out. That actually gave me a little new respect for Lucas.

What Sami says and what Sami does/feels are 2 different things. Sami Brady 101. It's been that way since 1993.


rolling.gif rolling.gif So true!!!!!!


Frankly I don't care what the haters think of EJ and those scenes. That EJ is showing just how much Sami means to him. He wasn't screaming at her, yelling at her, berating her for not being sure. THAT is the man she should be with! THAT is the man that will only love her the way she needs to be loved, and I fully believe she will realize that soon!


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EJ is not pathetic. He is in love. And deep in his heart he knows Sami loves him, too. Why would anyone give up on a chance at love?
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:16 PM
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Of course Sami still loves Lucas. Does Marlena still love Roman? She sure does. Just because you have a deep connection and love with someone, (Sami/Lucas and Marlena/Roman) doesn't mean that are the person truly in heart.

Lucas saw this. He knew that Sami was in love with EJ. He even said it, "I'm not the man she's in love with anymore." Sami is not known for being the most self aware person so when she says that she doesn't love EJ and Lucas says she does.. I believe Lucas. I also think that EJ knows this as well which is why he's holding on to this hope she's putting out. How does that make him pathetic? That he is not going to settle for someone who will sleep with him at the drop of the hat or the woman he really loves and really wants to be with.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:17 PM
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So many people keep telling me that EJ is Sami's first choice, but that's just not what's playing out on my screen. Ali's not selling me on it, and Sami's not coming across to me as someone who loves EJ more than she loves Lucas. And I have no doubt that if Lucas decided he was ready to give their marriage another try, Sami would grab that chance and leave EJ behind in a heartbeat.

Sami has spent the last decade and a half trying to be with a man, whether it's Austin, Brandon or Lucas. Now she can't be with those three, so she's lining up EJ as her back up. That's not fair to him.

I think she needs to cut romantic ties with both of them and find her life outside a man. Then, maybe, she'll be ready for a relationship.
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (EJfan @ Aug 15 2008, 04:16 PM) *
EJ is not pathetic. He is in love. And deep in his heart he knows Sami loves him, too. Why would anyone give up on a chance at love?



EJ wouldn't be such a LOSER if Sami had at least said that she loved him too.
Instead, Sami tells him she loves Lucas and because he won't give her a chance she's might give EJ a chance. No promises or anything, no declarations of love or anything.

I wonder what would happen to EJ if Lucas changed his mind?


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QUOTE (MarissaMayHem @ Aug 15 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Of course Sami still loves Lucas. Does Marlena still love Roman? She sure does. Just because you have a deep connection and love with someone, (Sami/Lucas and Marlena/Roman) doesn't mean that are the person truly in heart.

Lucas saw this. He knew that Sami was in love with EJ. He even said it, "I'm not the man she's in love with anymore." Sami is not known for being the most self aware person so when she says that she doesn't love EJ and Lucas says she does.. I believe Lucas. I also think that EJ knows this as well which is why he's holding on to this hope she's putting out. How does that make him pathetic? That he is not going to settle for someone who will sleep with him at the drop of the hat or the woman he really loves and really wants to be with.


Great post, ITA!!!! I think it would have been less believable if Sami didn't mention Lucas so that part of it didn't bother me...yes, she cares about Lucas because of their history but he's not the man in her heart anymore...EJ is smile.gif As Sami said, anything is possible so now that all the cards are on the table I see this a great beginning for EJami!!!


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 04:26 PM) *

EJ wouldn't be such a LOSER if Sami had at least said that she loved him too.
Instead, Sami tells him she loves Lucas and because he won't give her a chance she's might give EJ a chance. No promises or anything, no declarations of love or anything.

I wonder what would happen to EJ if Lucas changed his mind?


Wonder no more. Sami takes up with Lucas again. Pines after EJ. Lucas becomes irate and leaves. Sami returns to EJ. And repeat. Hopefully, Lucas remains the smart one out of the Lumi pairing and stays away. cool.gif






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