Poor Pathetic EJ..., where is your self respect? Options

[Vicky4Mimi]

I dont think LUCAS will pay off a judge like Ej did when he wanted to take Johnny from Sami.

If Sami plans to hang with an evil Dimera then yes Lucas should take Allie ( or both of his twins) and go as far as he can.

Ej is pathetic but his also the evil he doesnt need to be around those babies.

The feelings that Sami "admitted" to EJ was that 1. She loves Lucas. 2. She thinks she has to move on because Lucas doesnt want her right now. 3. She loves Lucas and wants to be with him 4. She guess that maybe EJ would be "OK" and maybe she could stand to be around him---but she wont promise that--in any way shape or form.

HMMM---yeah LUMI is PREVAILING!!

[sliderwnf]

EJ is helping Sami make a fool of him and its pretty funny. He should have told her that as long as she loves LUCAS (hmm that would be forever) then he wants nothing to do with her. BUT Noo he gets all giddy with his second place position and its hilarious!

Pathetic sounds about right!!

I CONCUR!!!

[animos83]

I dont think LUCAS will pay off a judge like Ej did when he wanted to take Johnny from Sami.

If Sami plans to hang with an evil Dimera then yes Lucas should take Allie ( or both of his twins) and go as far as he can.

Ej is pathetic but his also the evil he doesnt need to be around those babies.

The feelings that Sami "admitted" to EJ was that 1. She loves Lucas. 2. She thinks she has to move on because Lucas doesnt want her right now. 3. She loves Lucas and wants to be with him 4. She guess that maybe EJ would be "OK" and maybe she could stand to be around him---but she wont promise that--in any way shape or form.

HMMM---yeah LUMI is PREVAILING!!

Was it ever verified that Ej paid off a judge?? I don't think it was.. Ej has been a fine father, he has been there for both children when Lucas wasn't. I think the vists Lucas has with Allie should be supervised that way the lil one doesn't get away again!

[akeew]

Lucas wouldn't pay a judge...but not because it's beneath him, but rather he wouldn't have the means to, IF he did, I certainly wouldn't put it past him (although not quite sure he'd be smart enough to think of it!?). I'd also like to add, that EJ didn't really intend or want to take Johnny away from Sami, he obtained that piece of paper as leverage, he wanted to keep his family together. Admittedly not the nicest thing to do but he knows how to play Sami's game...& that's why they're perfect for each other! And, even after EJ did this...she stil admitted to having feelings for EJ (and they were certainly not feelings of hate or disgust!).

[_alwetwet]

EJ lost what self respect he did have the day he sex it with the town tramp in the elevator.

[_alwetwet]

EJ is helping Sami make a fool of him and its pretty funny. He should have told her that as long as she loves LUCAS (hmm that would be forever) then he wants nothing to do with her. BUT Noo he gets all giddy with his second place position and its hilarious!

Pathetic sounds about right!!

Nicole has already did that job on EJ when she blabbed his secret and he got revenge by elevatoring her.

[AKA08]

Sami's only willing to give you a chance (no promises, no declarations of love...for YOU that is) because Lucas, the man she DOES LOVE doesn't want to be with her anymore.

Just like EJ was only willing to give Nicole a chance because Sami, the woman he DOES LOVE said she didn't want to be with him so "move on."

I find these double standards hilarious. I would think that fans of Ejole would have no problem with "second choices"....especially considering that Nicole basically has a "SECOND CHOICE" sticker stamped in the middle of her forehead.

I can't believe EJ is such a LOSER!

No, a loser is a woman who still has sex with a guy on a hard elevator floor after he calls her by another woman's name( the woman he does love). Now that's pathetic, trashy, and screams low self esteem.

But anyway, I'm sure that EJ is proceeding with caution from that witch Sami.

[JarlenaFan]

I hear that Ejami train! I so loved Friday. I just loved Ej and Sami snuggling together so endearingly. Still makes me smile thinking about it. Nothing pathetic at all. Pure heart!

[Ejstheman]

I hear that Ejami train! I so loved Friday. I just loved Ej and Sami snuggling together so endearingly. Still makes me smile thinking about it. Nothing pathetic at all. Pure heart!

Yes,it was great,,and not pathetic the tiniest little bit!!

[Soaper]

Okkk...so getting back to the OP this isn't a Pro-EJami, Pro-Lumi or Pro-EJole thread. This thread is about how PATHETIC it is for EJ to be so happy at the prospect that while Sami, who is admittedly still in love with Lucas, and ALWAYS be in love with Lucas, will consider tossing him some crumbs because Lucas has cut her off.

Feel free to disagree about my opinion that EJ is acting like a dumb@ss but try to stay on topic.

Carry on!

[dorothyg]

Ej is by no means pathetic.....he's been in love with the same woman for over two years now. Finally there is some hope for him and Sami. Just bc he did the dirty with Nicole doesn't mean he still didn't love Sami, he does love her. He wanted to move on bc he saw
no hope. Sami has now shown him the honesty he's always asked for, and the chance he's always wanted. There is nothing wrong with loving someone with all your heart for a long time, so in no way do I see Ej as a poor pathetic man....just a man deeply in love.

[1days]

Ej is by no means pathetic.....he's been in love with the same woman for over two years now. Finally there is some hope for him and Sami. Just bc he did the dirty with Nicole doesn't mean he still didn't love Sami, he does love her. He wanted to move on bc he saw
no hope. Sami has now shown him the honesty he's always asked for, and the chance he's always wanted. There is nothing wrong with loving someone with all your heart for a long time, so in no way do I see Ej as a poor pathetic man....just a man deeply in love.

Great post!!!

[Vicky4Mimi]

Okkk...so getting back to the OP this isn't a Pro-EJami, Pro-Lumi or Pro-EJole thread. This thread is about how PATHETIC it is for EJ to be so happy at the prospect that while Sami, who is admittedly still in love with Lucas, and ALWAYS be in love with Lucas, will consider tossing him some crumbs because Lucas has cut her off.

Feel free to disagree about my opinion that EJ is acting like a dumb@ss but try to stay on topic.

Carry on!

Well I can say I totally agree with you!! EJ should have manned up and told her to call him if she ever gets over Lucas. He was made a fool of most definitely!! He gave her an open invitation to string him along till Lucas comes back to her (As we ALL know he will!) and he has no right to even complain. She told him UP FRONT that hes not her first choice and I think thats great!

[EJWellsFan1]

EJ lost what self respect he did have the day he sex it with the town tramp in the elevator.

You have a point. Well, at least he lost my self respect. And I don't see EJ as being hopeful that the woman he has been in love with for almost two years might return some of those feelings as pathetic at all. I see it as just that. Hopeful.

[Soaper]

Ej is by no means pathetic.....he's been in love with the same woman for over two years now. Finally there is some hope for him and Sami. Just bc he did the dirty with Nicole doesn't mean he still didn't love Sami, he does love her. He wanted to move on bc he saw
no hope. Sami has now shown him the honesty he's always asked for, and the chance he's always wanted. There is nothing wrong with loving someone with all your heart for a long time, so in no way do I see Ej as a poor pathetic man....just a man deeply in love.

Again we'll have to agree to disagree. I think any guy that is willing to spend YEARS chasing after a woman that admits to loving someone else is LAME. Personally I think TPTB are wasting EJ in this tired old redundant SL and I hate that they are portraying him as such a pathetic loser.

IMO you can't be deeply in love with someone that doesn't love you back.
Infatuated and obsessed? Yes.
Deeply in love? No.

[Laluna]

Again we'll have to agree to disagree. I think any guy that is willing to spend YEARS chasing after a woman that admits to loving someone else is LAME. Personally I think TPTB are wasting EJ in this tired old redundant SL and I hate that they are portraying him as such a pathetic loser.

IMO you can't be deeply in love with someone that doesn't love you back.
Infatuated and obsessed? Yes.
Deeply in love? No.

Are you saying there's no such thing as unrequited love? Have you read Cyrano de Bergerac? Wuthering Heights? Anything by Jane Austen? Most great love stories have elements of unrequited love. Sometimes the love is eventually requited. It's not pathetic. It's romantic.

[Soaper]

Are you saying there's no such thing as unrequited love? Have you read Cyrano de Bergerac? Wuthering Heights? Anything by Jane Austen? Most great love stories have elements of unrequited love. Sometimes the love is eventually requited. It's not pathetic. It's romantic.

Unrequited love means it is one sided and NEVER RETURNED.
It would make EJ the epitome of a LOSER.

Oh well, I'm willing to agree to disagree again.
You say unrequited love and I say STALKER.
Some say its romantic. I think it's pathetic.

[1days]

Unrequited love means it is one sided and NEVER RETURNED.
It would make EJ the epitome of a LOSER.

Oh well, I'm willing to agree to disagree again.
You say unrequited love and I say STALKER.
Some say its romantic. I think it's pathetic.

You think he's a pathetic loser but like him with Nicole?

[LittleSweetness]

So many people keep telling me that EJ is Sami's first choice, but that's just not what's playing out on my screen. Ali's not selling me on it, and Sami's not coming across to me as someone who loves EJ more than she loves Lucas. And I have no doubt that if Lucas decided he was ready to give their marriage another try, Sami would grab that chance and leave EJ behind in a heartbeat.

Sami has spent the last decade and a half trying to be with a man, whether it's Austin, Brandon or Lucas. Now she can't be with those three, so she's lining up EJ as her back up. That's not fair to him.

I think she needs to cut romantic ties with both of them and find her life outside a man. Then, maybe, she'll be ready for a relationship.

AgreeD.
no Lucas didn't see that EJ was her first choice. He just didn't want to deal with Sami's fickle emotions and saved himself the trouble and moved on.

[dorothyg]

Again we'll have to agree to disagree. I think any guy that is willing to spend YEARS chasing after a woman that admits to loving someone else is LAME. Personally I think TPTB are wasting EJ in this tired old redundant SL and I hate that they are portraying him as such a pathetic loser.

IMO you can't be deeply in love with someone that doesn't love you back.
Infatuated and obsessed? Yes.
Deeply in love? No.

Ej obviously saw something no one else saw as far as Sami was concerned. Ejami has never been a couple and as far as him being a pathetic loser for loving the same woman for over two years, It shows he doesn't take love lightly. Obsessed: No...In love: Yes. You most certainly can love someone who doesn't love you back. I have seen men leave their wives and the wife never stops loving her husband, the same way a woman can leave her husband and he never gets over it. Is that obsession or deep love? Sami was truthful with Ej so does it make him pathetic to finally have hope for the two of them? Honesty was the first step for Ejami. So I don't see Ej as a poor pathetic loser. He turns out to be a winner.JMO.