Poor Pathetic EJ..., where is your self respect? Options

[jensworld]

Okkk...so getting back to the OP this isn't a Pro-EJami, Pro-Lumi or Pro-EJole thread. This thread is about how PATHETIC it is for EJ to be so happy at the prospect that while Sami, who is admittedly still in love with Lucas, and ALWAYS be in love with Lucas, will consider tossing him some crumbs because Lucas has cut her off.

Feel free to disagree about my opinion that EJ is acting like a dumb@ss but try to stay on topic.

Carry on!

Sami loves Lucas like Marlena loves Roman. Marlena tried to fight her feelings for John, too. She thought she needed to be with Roman for the kids and because it was a safe haven. But those burning feelings for John just overtook her and she couldn't deny it any longer. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar??

I absolutely disagree with you about EJ. Sami's blabbering about Lucas in the stairwell was just that---blabbering. She still isn't necessarily comfortable with her feelings about EJ, after all, being with him feels like a risk. But EJ is taking a risk here too, and that isn't pathetic---that is love.

[animos83]

You think he's a pathetic loser but like him with Nicole?

Yeah I don't get it either. He is though making Nicole look like a pathetic looser, which is sad because normally I really enjoy Nicole.

[1days]

Sami loves Lucas like Marlena loves Roman. Marlena tried to fight her feelings for John, too. She thought she needed to be with Roman for the kids and because it was a safe haven. But those burning feelings for John just overtook her and she couldn't deny it any longer. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar??

I absolutely disagree with you about EJ. Sami's blabbering about Lucas in the stairwell was just that---blabbering. She still isn't necessarily comfortable with her feelings about EJ, after all, being with him feels like a risk. But EJ is taking a risk here too, and that isn't pathetic---that is love.

ITA!!!!

Yeah I don't get it either. He is though making Nicole look like a pathetic looser, which is sad because normally I really enjoy Nicole.

I like Nicole too and hate that she's pining over him when she knows who has his heart.

[akeew]

Ej is by no means pathetic.....he's been in love with the same woman for over two years now. Finally there is some hope for him and Sami. Just bc he did the dirty with Nicole doesn't mean he still didn't love Sami, he does love her. He wanted to move on bc he saw
no hope. Sami has now shown him the honesty he's always asked for, and the chance he's always wanted. There is nothing wrong with loving someone with all your heart for a long time, so in no way do I see Ej as a poor pathetic man....just a man deeply in love.

Awesome post! Thank you!!
LOL Go EJAMI!!

Reason for edit: removed rude comments

[Laluna]

Unrequited love means it is one sided and NEVER RETURNED.
It would make EJ the epitome of a LOSER.

Oh well, I'm willing to agree to disagree again.
You say unrequited love and I say STALKER.
Some say its romantic. I think it's pathetic.

I know what unrequited love means. It does not mean necessarily NEVER returned (although it could). As I said in the above post, a lot of great literature has elements of unrequited love. That means it may be one-sided for awhile until the love is finally returned (Pride and Prejudice, for example). Did you find Mr. Darcy pathetic?

[AG0418]

Sami loves Lucas like Marlena loves Roman. Marlena tried to fight her feelings for John, too. She thought she needed to be with Roman for the kids and because it was a safe haven. But those burning feelings for John just overtook her and she couldn't deny it any longer. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar??

I absolutely disagree with you about EJ. Sami's blabbering about Lucas in the stairwell was just that---blabbering. She still isn't necessarily comfortable with her feelings about EJ, after all, being with him feels like a risk. But EJ is taking a risk here too, and that isn't pathetic---that is love.

Nice Post! That's how I see it as well.

I know what unrequited love means. It does not mean necessarily NEVER returned (although it could). As I said in the above post, a lot of great literature has elements of unrequited love. That means it may be one-sided for awhile until the love is finally returned (Pride and Prejudice, for example). Did you find Mr. Darcy pathetic?

Mr. Darcy is not pathetic! I love your reference to Pride and Prejudice! That is my favorite movie. Nice comparison BTW.

[daydiamond]

Pathetic is the last thing EJ will ever be! His sexy self can get anyone he chooses and he chose Sami, like it or not but I am cheering them on with my pom poms in hand!!! They are meant besides I get chills in their love scenes and I think that Lucas and Chloe should give it a go personally. It'll definitely shake it up some!

[Soaper]

I know what unrequited love means. It does not mean necessarily NEVER returned (although it could). As I said in the above post, a lot of great literature has elements of unrequited love. That means it may be one-sided for awhile until the love is finally returned (Pride and Prejudice, for example). Did you find Mr. Darcy pathetic?

"Pride and Prejudice" was not a case of unrequited love. Miss Bennet and Mr. Darcy had a shared love respect for each other. What kept them apart were personality and class differences as well as their own pride and prejudices.

American Heritage Dictionary
adj.
UNREQUITED
Not reciprocated or returned in kind: unrequited love.

If love is returned it is RECIPROCAL or MUTUAL

[jensworld]

"Pride and Prejudice" was not a case of unrequited love. Miss Bennet and Mr. Darcy had a shared love respect for each other. What kept them apart were personality and class differences as well as their own pride and prejudices.

American Heritage Dictionary
adj.
UNREQUITED
Not reciprocated or returned in kind: unrequited love.

If love is returned it is RECIPROCAL or MUTUAL

It was unrequited in the beginning. Darcy loved Elizabeth fairly quickly into the story, but fought his feelings because of her vulgar family and lower class. Elizabeth actually didn't like Darcy (thus the unrequited part), until she realized he was not the man she originally thought, nearer to the end of the story. THEN their love became mutual.

Big Jane Austen fan here.

[sliderwnf]

Lets see, ej and sami have been compared to Rhett/Scarlett, John/Marlena, and now these characters from yet another show, pride and prejudice (I've never seen this last one).. Frankly, who cares!!! This is about how pathetic ej is.. I don't think that he is that pathetic, "YET", but Sami certainly is!!! There "nil" chemistry, is nauseating at best!!! What is pathetic is that Sami is this person that can't make up her mind, she uses one man to get what she wants, and if he doesn't give it to her she goes to the next.. It is pathetic that while she claims to love Lucas, she spread her legs for the rapist that started all of this crap, yet when Lucas comes home and finds her in bed with this rapist she runs after him apologizing, not because she had sex with her rapist, but that she got caught doing it.. What is pathetic is that ej didn't lapse into a coma after falling down a flight of stairs, and gave some of us a reprieve of this nightmare of a relationship.. Sami is confused, flaky, and down right annoying.. If ej was smart (I stress that "smart" part) he would dump her, stop confusing love with obsession, and move on with a woman that would give him what he needs.. (NICOLE)..

[Laluna]

"Pride and Prejudice" was not a case of unrequited love. Miss Bennet and Mr. Darcy had a shared love respect for each other. What kept them apart were personality and class differences as well as their own pride and prejudices.

American Heritage Dictionary
adj.
UNREQUITED
Not reciprocated or returned in kind: unrequited love.

If love is returned it is RECIPROCAL or MUTUAL

Great romances often have periods where one person's love is unrequited. Often the love is eventually reciprocated, often after a lot of angst and misunderstandings, and we have a happy ending. That may be pathetic to you, but it's the stuff of great love stories and has been for centuries. That's what many of us see coming in Ejami.

[KSlater]

"Pride and Prejudice" was not a case of unrequited love. Miss Bennet and Mr. Darcy had a shared love respect for each other. What kept them apart were personality and class differences as well as their own pride and prejudices.

American Heritage Dictionary
adj.
UNREQUITED
Not reciprocated or returned in kind: unrequited love.

If love is returned it is RECIPROCAL or MUTUAL

You're correct, it was not unrequited love. But Lizzie and Darcy's acquaintance did not start off as one of mutual respect. Not at all. It was more of mutual disrespect. As I remember, Darcy thought Lizzie was beneath him and Lizzie hated Darcy for his snotty attitude and general lack of respect for her family and her perceived notion that Darcy mistreated Mr. Wickham. They had a huge blow out between them because Darcy basically said to Lizzie, "I think you and your family are lower than garbage and it would degrade me to be with you. But you're hot, so I want you." Of course, Jane Austen phrased it more appropriately and poetically for the period. Darcy went behind Lizzie's back and destroyed (albeit temporarily) any hopes of Lizzie's beloved sister Jane getting together with Bingley, the love of her life. There's a lot of mean things, underhanded things that go on in that story. Eventually, when Lizzie and Darcy found out some hard truths about themselves and about the other person, that is when they started to fall in love. It's not out of line to draw some comparisons of EJ and Sami's relationship to that one.

[Soaper]

I suppose I should have added, "ultimately they shared..." but I assumed that she knew it was not love at first sight so it seemed unnecessary.

Back to the OP.
For over two years EJ has been waiting for Sami to admit that she loves him and at some point he needs to admit that his unrequited love affair for Sami is costing him his self respect.

I simply hope his realization comes sooner rather than later.

[charlie623]

we all know
sami loves ej
ej loves sami
that is not going to change anytime soon
we all know sami puts the wrong man (lucas) before the one she should realy be with
fronco
brandon
austin

when she really wanted
lucas
austin
lucas

those are just three examples
truth be told her and lucas have been drifting appart for a long time
the sings are all there

we all know sami is afraid of her true feeling
and wants to be with who she thinks will make everyone happy

it is just a matter of time before our girl stands up for what she really wants
ej

[charlie623]

I suppose I should have added, "ultimately they shared..." but I assumed that she knew it was not love at first sight so it seemed unnecessary.

Back to the OP.
For over two years EJ has been waiting for Sami to admit that she loves him and at some point he needs to admit that his unrequited love affair for Sami is costing him his self respect.

I simply hope his realization comes sooner rather than later.

ej never had respect till he fell inlove with sami

[Soaper]

ej never had respect till he fell inlove with sami

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree.
What you see as respect I see as ABUSE.

[Jiggs]

Sami loves Lucas like Marlena loves Roman. Marlena tried to fight her feelings for John, too. She thought she needed to be with Roman for the kids and because it was a safe haven. But those burning feelings for John just overtook her and she couldn't deny it any longer. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar??

Only she stayed with Roman and only many years later did she end up with John. Long after Roman divorced her. During her time with Roman John had moved on with Kristen. And she truly did love Roman and did not want a divorce - she didn't just stay with Roman because of the kids or because it was safe. So it's not quite so cut and dry.

[jensworld]

Only she stayed with Roman and only many years later did she end up with John. Long after Roman divorced her. During her time with Roman John had moved on with Kristen. And she truly did love Roman and did not want a divorce - she didn't just stay with Roman because of the kids or because it was safe. So it's not quite so cut and dry.

Wasn't Marlena married to Roman when Sami saw her and John doin' the horizontal mambo on the table?

I know Marlena truly loved Roman, like Sami truly loves Lucas. But it is a different kind of love I think. One that is safe, and predictable, and done out of desire to maintain one's family. Otherwise, how can you explain Marlena leaving Roman? He ended up not being the love of her life, as she may have thought before John came along. Her love for John was different. I see the same parallels with Sami-EJ-Lucas.

Actually, I'm not surprised it didn't take long for Sami's eyes to stray from Lucas to EJ. She had powerful feelings for EJ before she even remarried Lucas. The wedding was a mistake.

[EJWellsFan1]

Wasn't Marlena married to Roman when Sami saw her and John doin' the horizontal mambo on the table?

I know Marlena truly loved Roman, like Sami truly loves Lucas. But it is a different kind of love I think. One that is safe, and predictable, and done out of desire to maintain one's family. Otherwise, how can you explain Marlena leaving Roman? He ended up not being the love of her life, as she may have thought before John came along. Her love for John was different. I see the same parallels with Sami-EJ-Lucas.

Actually, I'm not surprised it didn't take long for Sami's eyes to stray from Lucas to EJ. She had powerful feelings for EJ before she even remarried Lucas. The wedding was a mistake.

I agree with the parallel about Roman/Marlena and John in comparison to Lucas/Sami/EJ. But I don't think it makes EJ pathetic to hope that he has a shot with the woman he truly loves and she has given him occasion to hope by sleeping with him, sharing a house and child rearing duties with him and admitting to having feelings for him. Having hope is not pathetic, I think it is admirable and quite frankly romantic.

[1days]

Great romances often have periods where one person's love is unrequited. Often the love is eventually reciprocated, often after a lot of angst and misunderstandings, and we have a happy ending. That may be pathetic to you, but it's the stuff of great love stories and has been for centuries. That's what many of us see coming in Ejami.

You are so right!

Wasn't Marlena married to Roman when Sami saw her and John doin' the horizontal mambo on the table?

I know Marlena truly loved Roman, like Sami truly loves Lucas. But it is a different kind of love I think. One that is safe, and predictable, and done out of desire to maintain one's family. Otherwise, how can you explain Marlena leaving Roman? He ended up not being the love of her life, as she may have thought before John came along. Her love for John was different. I see the same parallels with Sami-EJ-Lucas.

Actually, I'm not surprised it didn't take long for Sami's eyes to stray from Lucas to EJ. She had powerful feelings for EJ before she even remarried Lucas. The wedding was a mistake.

Great post!