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> Poor Pathetic EJ..., where is your self respect?
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (MarissaMayHem @ Aug 15 2008, 04:16 PM) *
Of course Sami still loves Lucas. Does Marlena still love Roman? She sure does. Just because you have a deep connection and love with someone, (Sami/Lucas and Marlena/Roman) doesn't mean that are the person truly in heart.

Lucas saw this. He knew that Sami was in love with EJ. He even said it, "I'm not the man she's in love with anymore." Sami is not known for being the most self aware person so when she says that she doesn't love EJ and Lucas says she does.. I believe Lucas. I also think that EJ knows this as well which is why he's holding on to this hope she's putting out. How does that make him pathetic? That he is not going to settle for someone who will sleep with him at the drop of the hat or the woman he really loves and really wants to be with.


excellent post. I agree with you 100% Lucas has known for a while that Sami has feelings for EJ and he chose to ignore it. He now sees that their relationship was toxic and he is tired of living that life. He is bowing out and I have to respect him for doing that. He is moving on with Chloe. As for EJ, he is finally on the verge of getting what his heart desires, Sami. That does not make him pathetic, it makes him a man in love. They were finally honest in that stairwell and it was refreshing. Nicole would always be second choice. What woman wants that. To know that your man loves another woman and is only settling for you because he can't have her. I know I wouldn't.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (pagraves @ Aug 15 2008, 04:17 PM) *
So many people keep telling me that EJ is Sami's first choice, but that's just not what's playing out on my screen. Ali's not selling me on it, and Sami's not coming across to me as someone who loves EJ more than she loves Lucas. And I have no doubt that if Lucas decided he was ready to give their marriage another try, Sami would grab that chance and leave EJ behind in a heartbeat.

Sami has spent the last decade and a half trying to be with a man, whether it's Austin, Brandon or Lucas. Now she can't be with those three, so she's lining up EJ as her back up. That's not fair to him.

I think she needs to cut romantic ties with both of them and find her life outside a man. Then, maybe, she'll be ready for a relationship.



ICAM! EJ deserves better than to be Lucas' stand in!
It wouldn't have been so bad if Sami had only said she loved EJ AT LEAST ONCE!


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 04:41 PM) *

ICAM! EJ deserves better than to be Lucas' stand in!
It wouldn't have been so bad if Sami had only said she loved EJ AT LEAST ONCE!


Nothing happens that easily on soaps! Don't worry, I'm sure those words are coming.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 03:26 PM) *

EJ wouldn't be such a LOSER if Sami had at least said that she loved him too.
Instead, Sami tells him she loves Lucas and because he won't give her a chance she's might give EJ a chance. No promises or anything, no declarations of love or anything.

I wonder what would happen to EJ if Lucas changed his mind?


Nicole would get another night of showing her sleazy, trashy side!! rolling.gif And EJ would call out to Sami again.......
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post Aug 15 2008, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (sjga @ Aug 15 2008, 04:44 PM) *
Nicole would get another night of showing her sleazy, trashy side!! And EJ would call out to Sami again.......



I'd rather see that than EJami sex with Lucas' picture on Sami's bedstand.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Sami's only willing to give you a chance (no promises, no declarations of love...for YOU that is) because Lucas, the man she DOES LOVE doesn't want to be with her anymore.

I can't believe EJ is such a LOSER!


*sigh*

We tried to tell you that EJ loves Sami and only Sami. We also told you that the minute Sami flashes green light, it´s bye-bye Nicole. EJ and Nicole were merely a bump in the EJami road.


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post Aug 15 2008, 03:56 PM
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That entire episode just proved how much EJ and Sami love each other. The way that Sami answered EJ's questions was done right. Sami told him that she can't keep on with lieing to herself about how she feels for EJ. She told him that when Lucas came back she tried to push back the feelings she had for EJ. She was honest with what she was feeling, and Marlena was confused with how she felt about Roman and John at first. It is so obviouse that Sami's feelings for EJ are stronger than what she feels for Lucas. Everyone can see it but Sami, and I feel that they are starting to have Smai realize it.
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post Aug 15 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tina227 @ Aug 15 2008, 04:56 PM) *
That entire episode just proved how much EJ and Sami love each other. The way that Sami answered EJ's questions was done right. Sami told him that she can't keep on with lieing to herself about how she feels for EJ. She told him that when Lucas came back she tried to push back the feelings she had for EJ. She was honest with what she was feeling, and Marlena was confused with how she felt about Roman and John at first. It is so obviouse that Sami's feelings for EJ are stronger than what she feels for Lucas. Everyone can see it but Sami, and I feel that they are starting to have Smai realize it.




Love EACH OTHER?
He raped her and she has NEVER said "I love you" to him.




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post Aug 15 2008, 04:02 PM
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So it's the old, "who're you going to believe, me or your lying eyes" thing? Right.

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post Aug 15 2008, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 03:51 PM) *
I'd rather see that than EJami sex with Lucas' picture on Sami's bedstand.



I am going out on limb here and guess your a fan of Nicole...?? So you would rather see your choice of character know EJ does not love her, and still have her have sex with him, to be his second choice? What draws you to a character who thinks it is okay to have sex with someone who does not love them? I agree Sami needs to choose...but she is the one he loves, was his wife, and the mother of his child! This puts her in his life in a completely different class than Nicole, who by the way is MARRIED to someone else!!
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QUOTE (sjga @ Aug 15 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I am going out on limb here and guess your a fan of Nicole...?? So you would rather see your choice of character know EJ does not love her, and still have her have sex with him, to be his second choice? What draws you to a character who thinks it is okay to have sex with someone who does not love them? I agree Sami needs to choose...but she is the one he loves, was his wife, and the mother of his child! This puts her in his life in a completely different class than Nicole, who by the way is MARRIED to someone else!!


If anything I'm a James Scott fan that thinks his character deserves better than to be Sami's second choice lapping up Lucas' leftovers for more than two years!

What can I say, it bothers me that LUCAS has more self-respect than EJ!




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post Aug 15 2008, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 05:08 PM) *

If anything I'm a James Scott fan that thinks his character deserves better than to be Sami's second choice lapping up Lucas' leftovers for more than two years!

What can I say, it bothers me that LUCAS has more self-respect than EJ!



EJ is not Sami´s second choice:

EJ: I’d really like to know how you feel about Lucas. I mean, right here… now.

Sami: I love him, and I always will. But, he doesn’t want to have anything to do with me, and I have to deal with that and... move on.

EJ: I see.

Sami: I’m sorry.

EJ: Do you think that… Lucas saying this is part of the reason that you realized you have these feelings for me?

Sami: I didn’t say that. No, that’s not how it is.


EJ: How is it?

Sami: I don’t know. I mean, you were lying there on the floor, and I thought you were dead, and I thought I had killed you. I guess a lot of things hit me, you know, all at once.

EJ: Things like what?

Sami: I don’t know. Maybe that anything is possible. I’m sorry I can’t promise you anything more than that.


This is huge.
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post Aug 15 2008, 04:17 PM
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OK so EJ isn't even Sami's second choice.
EJ wins by default because Lucas backed out.

Oh and Sami's glad she didn't kill EJ.
Way to go! That says a LOT. sarcasm.gif


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post Aug 15 2008, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 04:08 PM) *

If anything I'm a James Scott fan that thinks his character deserves better than to be Sami's second choice lapping up Lucas' leftovers for more than two years!

What can I say, it bothers me that LUCAS has more self-respect than EJ!



I think that Lucas see exactly what EJ sees....that Sami's feelings are far to deep for EJ. Now they have to let Sami see what the men in her life, and her family see.
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post Aug 15 2008, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 05:17 PM) *

OK so EJ isn't even Sami's second choice.
EJ wins by default because Lucas backed out.

Oh and Sami's glad she didn't kill EJ.
Way to go! That says a LOT. sarcasm.gif


No. It means that Sami has realized that she and Lucas just doesn´t work. And she is ready to embrace the fact that she is in love with a bad DiMera. She is willing to give them a real chance. She is letting go of the safe and boring life with Lucas, because her heart is elsewhere.
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QUOTE (sjga @ Aug 15 2008, 05:19 PM) *
I think that Lucas see exactly what EJ sees....that Sami's feelings are far to deep for EJ.


Yep, Lucas has said repeatedly that he knows Sami loves EJ.


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post Aug 15 2008, 04:33 PM
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Lucas has accused Sami of "HAVING FEELINGS" for EJ.
Its funny how the writers avoid using the word LOVE when EJami is concerned.

Of course, EJ has had to hear it repeatedly from the horse's mouth that SAMI LOVES LUCAS. Apparently that doesn't bother EJ, he's happy to accept whatever meager crumbs Sami will scatter...you know, crumbs that Lucas doesn't want.


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post Aug 15 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Soaper @ Aug 15 2008, 05:33 PM) *
Lucas has accused Sami of "HAVING FEELINGS" for EJ.
Its funny how the writers avoid using the word LOVE when EJami is concerned.

Of course, EJ has had to hear it repeatedly from the horse's mouth that SAMI LOVES LUCAS. Apparently that doesn't bother EJ, he's happy to accept whatever meager crumbs Sami will scatter...you know, crumbs that Lucas doesn't want.


If I remember correctly, Lucas told Chloe "I'm not the guy that Sami loves" and that he thinks Sami wishes he never came back from prison.


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post Aug 15 2008, 04:42 PM
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I think if we're really concerned about EJ settling for being Sami's second choice, we should be equally concerned for Sami because she is Lucas' second choice. If Carrie came back to Salem without Austin, I think we all know that Lucas wouldn't give Sami the time of day if it meant getting Carrie back.

EJ is not Sami's second choice, she hasn't made a choice yet. She's still sorting out her feelings. She feels love and loyalty (however misguided) toward Lucas because of their circumstances, but she also feels love (even if she hasn't identified it as such yet), passion, happiness, ease and contentment with EJ.

Sami is a smart girl, she'll make the right choice. It just won't happen over night because where is the "soapiness" in that?
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QUOTE (Laluna @ Aug 15 2008, 05:36 PM) *
If I remember correctly, Lucas told Chloe "I'm not the guy that Sami loves" and that he thinks Sami wishes he never came back from prison.




Too bad EJ doesn't have half the self respect Lucas has for himself.




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