This post is mostly a repley to JanMarie's post regarding
her struggles with casting, being told she was 'in' going through more interviews and paperwork then nothing.

I hear you, lots of you out there...we are, in our hearts, still waiting, hoping. We know that TBL2 is a done deal...ok, but as far as the spin offs go...no one knows...but here is my take on it...

Most of us know that the last we heard is that there were two catagories for spin offs, family & engaged couples.

I think everybody (TV viewers) love the elemient of surprise..(I know I do)..I think that the angle for the spin offs will be the surprise visit to the persons home, film crew and all....what do you all think? I have watched many other reality shows (one being 'home edition') that does this and it is a spin off.

another possibility may be that they decided to drop the spin offs..or are waiting to see if TBL2 gets the same if not better ratings before jumping in.

I know it's all a bunch a guesses but I wanted to put this out there...I want you all to stay hopful..I am.

Last but not least, this post is not an invatation to those who want to give advice about 'you don't need the show, etc'..

This post is for only the die hard true TBL fans who really love the show and think it would be great to be on it. It's for the folks who are thinking about applying for the show, for the folks who have applied for the show, or been to casting calls, filled out the forms, had photos taken, e-mailed and talked to the producers, talked to the producers 3 months ago, 3 weeks ago, talked to several different producers...this is for the folks who still believe!

It's not over till it's over....we haven't heard anything yet but that doesn't mean it's not in the works...TBL2 hasn't even aired yet....have faith! Be strong! Say a prayer, keep your fingers crossed and wish on a falling star...why not,dreams can come true, and it's ok to dream!

Good luck to all of you!
With all my heart~

PrettynPink

Hello people:

I have been reading this board off and on for quite a while. I am a producer (not associated with 3Ball) who works in Los Angeles and deals quite closely with casting directors.

As I do not plan to be a regular poster on this board, I'm not going to worry that my debut may p*ss off many of you out there.

PrettyNPink: You might as well get on out there and tell all the good people sinking into debt that they shouldn't despair because there is a lottery going on every day in every state! If any of the casting directors I knew every ran upon any of you, you'd be SO not chosen.

PNP: I have read your posts, esp. one to the woman who I gather upset you. Kresine? She made a lot of sense; you don't. I'm not a dummy, I hear that you believe that you were JUST talking to those who are dying to get on the show. But hey there, inadvertantly you are encouraging those who mega false hopes, and your posts are damaging!!

I read the eloquent post of Ryan C. Benson and others but it seems that you just don't want to hear him. Gosh darn, by hook or by crook, you're getting on that show!!! Guess what, it's HIGHLY doubtful and I can tell you that attitudes like yours don't fly out here, people!

To the lady who calls herself "Fiction's Mistress," wow! Do you sit around every day feeling THIS sorry for yourself?? I read your posts. You can't lose weight on your own because you just don't have the right support system, your book isn't being published, your friends are upsetting you. You would NOT be cast. You're blaming everything wrong in your life on everyone but YOURSELF!!! Trust me, the folks out here would send you packing!!

Hey, I'm not here to put people down, though I have NO doubt that is how I'm being perceived by many! I'm here to give you all a big REALITY CHECK!! Get up! Get moving! Go out there an do it!! Maybe if you saw what I saw every day of my life you would understand.

I wish I could list all of the extraordinary numbers of people who try to get on shows, actors who try to get cast, even as extras in films. The competition is UNBELIEVABLE! There's nothing wrong with having a dream about the getting cast, but you people are truly obsessing on something that ain't likely AT ALL to happen. You're all impeding your chances of success and those of others by promoting false hope.

Yeah Pretty N Pink, it IS okay to dream and I GET the point you THINK you are making. But when you get down on yourself because the "dream" didn't come true, and when you let it F up your life, hey you're doing more than just "dreaming." That's a rationalization. I've been dealing with wannabe actors for 20 years. I know; believe me, I KNOW!!

Lastly, it must be a vast annoyance to the regular posters on this thread as I see you all start a new thread every time you have a slightly different take on something.

As I believe another poster said (sorry, I'm not familiar with all of the names), your energy could be used to lose weight NOW. I get the idea that being on TV is truly more important to most of you than the actual weight loss. As a producer and former casting director, I wouldn't touch any of you with a ten-foot pole. Your motivation is in all the wrong places!

This is a sorry sight. And while I'm sure offense is taken; none is meant. I speak from experience.

CC
LosAngeles

Given the post that follows your kind response, I am almost sorry that you did this for me. I will respond in my post as well, but you hit the nail on the head -- it would be pretty cool to be a part of the show. But waiting? No, we aren't waiting. My oldest probably would no longer qualify for the show; he has lost about 90 pounds. He looks so different and so great. I have lost close to 35 pounds myself, but I am old -- hehehe -- and it takes longer. Actually, I fell down stairs and did some spinal damage (I know, the fat didn't help), and it messed up my stride. I couldn't walk for nearly a month, but I am on my feet again. But we did start the whole eating healthier and exercising back after we first interviewed. My youngest is my concern. He has continued to gain weight -- not much, but he was very much overweight when we started this. His problem isn't what he eats (like I said, no junk food in this house), it is total inactivity. This summer, it has gotten worse (see the save my son thread). But on the hopeful front, we go today to a psychologist who I am hoping will make the difference. I am on my way as I type, and I have a doctor visit planned before the psych visit to give our doc a chance to talk to my 15-year--old about what he is doing to himself. Wish me luck.
And Hollywood producer post-er person, I don't think we who hope are sorry pathetic losers; we just want to be The Biggest Losers -- Season 2. :-)

>>To the lady who calls herself "Fiction's Mistress," wow! Do you sit around every day feeling THIS sorry for yourself?? I read your posts. You can't lose weight on your own because you just don't have the right support system, your book isn't being published, your friends are upsetting you. You would NOT be cast. You're blaming everything wrong in your life on everyone but YOURSELF!!! Trust me, the folks out here would send you packing!!<<

Actually, for quite a while I have sat around feeling like that EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's called depression and it gets pretty bad sometimes. I sound like a whiney little bitch and I just hate that I can't erase those posts now. LOL. I'm not going to make excuses for myself, because that is what I have done for my entire life. It's time to stop.

As for your, I am blaming all those around me for my being unsuccessful. Though it may appear to be that way on this board, those who know me in reality know that I am VERY aware why I am where I am. I made mistakes in my life. I am not in a steady career right now because I made stupid decisions as a teenager, I made stupid decisions as a teen/adult and that is why I am fat. I make stupid decisions everyday because I sit around instead of getting off my fat butt. I know why I am where I am.

As for your post, I didn't find it offensive at all. You said what you felt and I think that is awesome. Too often we encourage people to say what they feel or believe only to shoot them down when they say it and their opinion is different from our own.

And you're right about one thing, I would not be cast. I know this because I WAS NOT cast. No biggy though.

I have lost five pounds. And you know what? I did it ALL ON MY OWN.


Hope to see you around, CC.


~FM

>>To the lady who calls herself "Fiction's Mistress," <<

BTW, there is no comma, nor is there a space between my "name". Just FYI. And in the future you can just call me FM.

~FM

Just a word to FM and JanMarie. I do NOT think any of you are pathetic losers. I was writing to tell you that the attitude you have set forth, as I have read it on this board, would not qualify you as appropriate candidates.

There is nothing wrong with having dreams. I am working a job now that many people told me that I'd never get. However, there were more than a dozen jobs in Los Angeles to be had, and it took me years to work myself up through more BS than one could imagine.

I'm sure in my haste that I did not make it clear that my comments, although directed at the current posters, were formed after months of my colleagues and I reading this board. We were all extremely distressed by the obsession many had with GETTING on the SHOW, which had far more a commanding presence than any visible desire to LOSE WEIGHT! When those lines get blurred and all of one's efforts are spent going after the near impossible, it becomes scary.

FM, I DO understand depression and unlike our current anti-hero out here, Tom Cruise, I respect it. From the point of view of those I work with, and myself, I can only tell you that if we had perceived such from you, you are not someone we would have cast.

Many who have posted before all of you, were literally putting their lives on hold. I think some of the comments that most floored us were things like, "I will die if I don't get on the show!," and "I must get on this show to save my life," etc. etc. That is positively frightening. Anyone who believes that getting on this show or ANY other show is the only way to save their life, needs to immediate locate a GOOD therapist. And yes, Tom Cruise, possibly take the proper medications if so prescribed!

My colleague also had pointed out that all attempts to reel any of you back into reality were, for the most part, not in all cases, ignored. We sat back and rolled our eyes and some of you went into long diatribes about how to get cast, how to edit videos, and on and on. Believe me, some of us couldn't even give you the formula to get cast, as there are so many mitigating factors, but suddenly, there was a board of experts. As Ryan Benson pointed out, spending your money on a professional editor will not do the trick. It will, however, give you a fine souvenir of when you were fat should you lose the weight.

Again, I understand that we all have dreams, but I felt that the obsession on this board was literally offering false hope to those who truly should be working hard on their own.

I read PrettyNPink's disclaimer about who her post was intended for -- still, I found it to be dangerous in many aspects. We are in a position here to see people who live in denial and who regularly make foolish and outrageous decisions in the name of "dreaming." No, PrettyNPink, I am not applying this to you, though your post did scare me and it did bring about cause for alarm as some who read it may rejuvenate past hope that was wisely abandoned.

There is nothing more important than living every day the best we can. This is not a dress rehearsal. If a dream comes true, more power to you, but please, do not stop your lives as they are to WAIT for a dream.

I'm happy to hear of your weight loss accomplishments and encourage you all to hold your heads high and live each day with the power within in. Do not look for anyone else to give that to you.

All best wishes,

CC.

CC, thanks for the post from the LA/Hollywood perspective. I do have a question for you. I have a totally different spin on my frustations about the way things were handled. I have never been one to say "I will die.. or my family will die if we dont get on the show" nor am I one to say "I cant lose weight without your help". As a matter of fact, we entered this whole thing knowing it was a cr@pshoot and although it would have been a wonderful experience for my family, life goes on and we are fine without it. What really did irk me were the conversations and communications made to our family during the process.

We had quite a few summer plans and quite a bit of money invested in these plans that were contingent on the show and we indicated that to the folks at 3Ball. We told them we were willing to sacrifice those plans if they chose our family to participate. We kept those plans in place up until the time we received the call saying we were finalists, had been chosen to come to LA and were provided with a list of items that we should and shouldnt pack on our trip. It was only at that time that we cancelled all of our other plans. It was not until the dates they gave us were fast approaching and we had not received our plane tickets as promised did I start to worry. During this whole time, never once did we receive a call indicating that there was any type of a problem or a change in plans. In fact, I had to call them and it was only then that we found out things were off for us.

Was our situation an exception? Or is it typical that the "contestants" on these show are merely pawns in a game that is played by the folks out west? I explained to them up front that we are not among the elite, we work hard for the money we make and our sacrifices were going to be great if they chose us to come out. And these sacrifices went well beyond our summer plans.. they also knew up front that it would be very difficult for us to work our trip on the dates that they had given us because of work commitments but we would make it happen. We were willing to make those sacrifices not only to benefit us, but we were willing to give everything we have to make the one episode we were on a success for them as well.

I do understand that plans change... and I was willing to accept the change and/or the rejection if someone would have called and told me that it was off. But we didnt get that.. we got nothing... no call, no letter, no nothing... we had to initiate the call where we learned of us not coming. I am hoping this was an isolated incident and that the non-hollywood types are not regularly treated with so little respect.

>>
Just a word to FM and JanMarie. I do NOT think any of you are pathetic losers. I was writing to tell you that the attitude you have set forth, as I have read it on this board, would not qualify you as appropriate candidates.<<

I agree. I have sounded like a whiney git and I am very ashamed of that. I'm not totally over my rejection, but I'm getting there and am choosing not to let it rule me anymore.

>>FM, I DO understand depression and unlike our current anti-hero out here, Tom Cruise, I respect it. From the point of view of those I work with, and myself, I can only tell you that if we had perceived such from you, you are not someone we would have cast.<<

I understand that. I wouldn't want to cast a downer either. LOL. I think the reason I wanted it so badly, aside form the whole losing weight thing, was getting my name out there. I thought it might help me in the publishing world.

Now I'll just have to find some other way to get my name out there. That is if I choose to pursue a writing career any longer. I won't be the first person to lay their dream to rest, will I? LOL.

~FM


Hmmm, they're selling ole Tom a little differently out here.

Hello 2toncharlie:

I appreciated reading your thoughtful post. Before I respond, let me state again that I am in "the business," but have no connection with 3Ball or this show. I would not want anyone to think I am misrepresenting myself.

I truly emphasize with your situation and quite frankly, I neither appreciate nor condone the way you and your family were treated. That said, there is no one answer to your question and I have no idea why you were not shown more respect. I am one of those who care about people as human beings, which is why I took the time to post. I am also in a position to understand more and that may explain my frustration with the attitudes of TBL wannabes that I have seen exhibited in various posts.

Would it help if I told you that "Hollywood" does not reserve such behavior for "outsiders?" First, let me give you a a few different reasons that you may have been treated that way. Pandemondium often rules many offices and people work crazy hours. Sometimes, people just don't care, or sometimes they care but are so overworked that its enough to just get done what one needs to do. Sadly, there is no time for what some would consider "superfluous chores." Often, people who might make the calls are being asked to juggle MORE than 3 [censored] :-), and perhaps making a phone call to an once-prospective candidate simply falls between the cracks. I know it is tough on your end as you do not want to be perceived as a "pain in the butt" for calling and possibly destroy your chances of getting cast, but at the same time, you may already have been removed from consideration and don't know it.

For those of you out in the work force for years, perhaps you remember a day when a resume sent out always brough forth some type of response. Companies, due to financial cutbacks and time restraints, no longer employ a person whose job it is to respond to the thousands of people who mail in resumes. In all kinds of business, job applicants who have gone through 2nd, 3rd, and 4th interviews are often not called when someone else is hired. Often, this is due to mere cowardice on the part of the person who should call and thank the applicant for his or her time.

I have also noticed a trend across the board with people who make promises or hint at something prematurely, and then, for purely egotistical reasons, do not want to go back and face the person to whom they made promises or "semi-promises." Again, let me emphatically state that I am not making direct reference to your situation, but only offering you reasons, from my perspective, that you unfortunately were left dangling. It is a shame that your vacation plans were messed up.

CC.


P.S. FM: I'm not sure how my sarcasm re Tom Cruise was received, the but consensus out here is that Tom could benefit greatly from the medication he so harshly derides.

Hello ClaudiaCool

Your reply was intersting, thank you for taking the time to write.

My encouraging words were and are still ment for not the 'producers' as you have claimed to be but for the the fans of the show and those who applied to be on the show.

In my journey with TBL, I have met with more then one producer. I have been told that producers for reality shows are 'free-lance'...meaning they cast for a variety of shows as well as have other projects/work that keep bread on the table. They work for them selves/self employeed. They take random jobs here and there, they function almost like actors in being selected for 'jobs'. Some have a lot of experiance some not much at all, they all have diffent styles of interviewing/approaching casting calls.
They are all looking for a person/person's thay can "sell" to the show. Each show can be looking for something different...the casting producers may not even know whats "hot" or not, it can change. But common themes do prevail, some types are looked at and others looked over...you should know that.

That was my point. I have doubts that you are indeed a casting producer for anything due to your comments made here...
you say that you would not pick any one who has posted on this board? If I were NBC or 3Ball and you were under my employ I would surely have you dismissed, you have come on this board and insulted every fan of The Biggest Loser on this board. This is NBC's veiwing audiance and thier ratings....I doubt you would work in Hollywood a day more if they knew who you were.

Take Care and good luck with your future projects.

PrettynPink

Miss PrettyNPink:

It is the very nature of working in Los Angeles to be a freelancer. People go from project to project here. This is one industry where longer resumes are the norm and not the exception. I did not think it necessary to explain this in my post. Here, you are usually employed for the duration of your project. Many are unemployed for months when a show goes on hiatus; many are suddenly unemployed to a surprise or expected cancellation, and many people have multiple projects going. Producers may work on a show or actually be hired by a studio in a development capacity. I'm not going to write a dissertation here to prove anything to you.

I also said that I had FORMERLY working in casting and was current a producer. In two posts, I made it explicitly clear that I was NOT associated with 3Ball/NBC. Perhaps in your incredibly defensive rage, you did not take the time to read clearly. There are thousands of people in Los Angeles in various production capacities. I am merely one of many. I do not claim to be a Hollywood hotshot; just someone with vast experience in the field.

Yes, everyone does have a different approach, which is exactly why I could not give 2toncharlie a direct response to WHY he was not contacted re not being chosen. I did, however, express the same facts you claim I do not know, that different people/companies handle things in entirely different ways. Can you name me ANY industry where everyone's approach is THE SAME? What fascinating "inside" knowledge you have acquired!

I am still laughing over being told that producers go from job to job. That is like telling an oncologist he/she will be dealing with cancer patients. I have worked for a multitude of production companies over the years. Production companies are often located in their own buildings, or often, particular shows rent spaces on various lots. I am currently based on the Warner Bros. lot in Burbank. But thank you, so much, for explaining to me how the business works. My colleagues, who are still working at this hour, also enjoyed receiving this important information from you.

Well, you're not my boss and you cannot have me "dismissed." I CAN see, however, why the casting directors dismissed YOU! You've got a real attitude and obviously you haven't paid much attention to the producers you've dealt with or you wouldn't constantly be daydreaming on this board and encouraging others to forget their real lives and jump onboard with you.

I wrote the post originally because I was saddened by the false hope that you spread & your abject dismissal of any poster who tried to knock sense into your head. I have sadly seen bright, intelligent and talented people work a lifetime as a restaurant server because they refuse to give up on being a star. Working in a restaurant is an admirable (and often lucrative) profession, but sad if it is by default: stardom or nothing. I've seen many very bright individuals take all kinds of menial jobs into their 60s so that they can always be available for auditions.

Many of us have seen the same actors at auditions over and over throughout the years. I have seen many lives destroyed by dreams of grandeur and stardom.

I was reaching out to the people out there who may be putting their lives on hold, or spending their last $$ on a video tape, or NOT losing the weight they should lose NOW, all because of the hope of getting onto a TV show. It was not intended to offend the Biggest Loser audience in any way, shape, or form.

FM understood me very well and reacted appropriately and with grace to my message.

You doubt I'm a producer and clearly disrespect my good intentions and veracity; I doubt that you look very pretty in pink!

Take Care and good luck with your future projects.

CC.

Hello again ClaudiaCool

Your last post to me seemed that of an angery school girl. Through out your post you seemed to try to pump yourself up proclaiming your vast knowlege of "the business"
and with a final hurah end your dissertation with a cutting childish remark..("doubt you look good in pink").

Maybe you should get back to work at Warner Bros....I don't think you are earning points here on this board...surely Warner has a show with a board you might frequent.

NBC created this board, they also watch the board..I think if they felt it was hurting anyone they would pull it...don't you? I thank you for your concern and good intentions but we really have all managed to survive with out your expert insider knowlege from "Hollywood"..or Burbank...or where ever you are.

Two more things...me 'dismissed' from the show, wrong again
and hey...if you as a 'casting producer' would have never noticed me or "picked" me...you sure have spent some effert in posting to me...

ok, Ms. Cool...maybe we'll run in to one another in Hollywood, Burbank or on T.V sometime...

It's too bad that you felt you needed to "show people the light" when I was trying to keep spirts up and minds positive. To me your posts seem like a 'downer'..if thats what you intended sounds like you hit your mark. If you choose to bag on me for being 'positive' then maybe you're not a very nice person. Not every person on this board is here looking for 'therapy'...not everyone has the same reasons for wanting to be on the show...point in case; if no one had the desire to be on, apply for TBL then the show would be over...no one would go to casting calls..I'm trying to keep hopes high, sure it's like a lottery ticket but if no one felt excited about possibly winning the lottery then no one would buy a ticket and the lottery would be no more. So whats your point?, would you like the show to just end?

If you are in 'showbiz'..my advice is to get out...you have no clue what it's about.

once again, thank you for taking the time to post, I did say my post was only for the die hard fans...not the advice givers....you would fall into the second catagory.

Take care,
PrettynPink

hey PNP:

i know u don't like me either, so i'm not going to worry about what u have to say. I think u are the "angry schoolgirl." U insulted this lady in the last post -- u said u doubted WHO she was, that she should be fired from her job -- and oh yeah, that she insulted every fan of TBL. So, hey, u know, u dish it out and then SHE is the childish one for giving a little back 2 u. U can't dish it out & then not expect to get something back.

and hey, no NBC wouldn't pull your posts simply b/c some people might listen to your dreamy tales. if you were posting some crazy diet that might kill people, yeah, maybe they would. that logic doesn't win me over.

everything she said made absolute sense to me. my sis-in-law works in LA and read the posts. i won't tell u what she thought of u, but she said everything in CC's post was totally legit and correct. U are so sarcastic and mean. Your entire post looks like a kid wrote it -- and u r insulting this lady who made 100X more sense than u ever did. I dont think she came on this board to earn any points, u sure haven't earned any w/me. She didn't say she worked at WB -- she said she was located on the lot there!! My SIL works at Paramount but she doesn't work FOR them -- she works 4 a company renting space. So u don't know much or u don't read.

Sorry -- but all of your posts have really upset me b/c i'm around a lotta people with a dangerous mindset and i worry like hell. i think i mentioned the one woman who gained 40 lbs. in hopes of being on the show. Hey even "loserhopeful" (Gary) who runs the other board -- he said that he gained weight to get on the show. it's a serious matter & as someone w/kids and someone who knows the moms of WAY too many kids, and having been overweight myself -- yeah, well, i am NOT a fan of your posts. sorry. So someone saw that and tried to help. U know -- just cause she P*ssed u off, maybe she did help someone else who might happen to have a different opinion than u. I give her 3 BIG cheers for making an attempt to help; all u have done is what she said -- raise false hopes. U could have handled her w/class & simply DISAGREED.

<<
If you are in 'showbiz'..my advice is to get out...you have no clue what it's about.>>

yeah, right -- and u r the expert. U know more about her job than she does. yeah, okay, then. U r about as qualifed to make that statement as u r all of the others. hey, i tried to stay out of this "dialogue" but your last post really got to me. Pot calliing the kettle black -- for sure.

Kresine (who you do NOT speak for!!!!)

PnP, I think you need to know something for sure. I agree totally with everything I have heard from Claudia and from Kresine. And I bet there are more of us here who do. We have all just been so polite up to this point. Watching you ALWAYS create a new post for every thought. You guys even make a new thread to reply to one another...how much sense does that make? All you're doing is bumping down all of the other GOOD threads that people actually WANT to read and reply to. The ones that aren't repetitive in always saying, "pick me, pick me!!"
Talk about childish? That last post of yours really did read like a 12 year old wrote it. Sticks and Stones, you ever heard that?
I have been posting here for a long time. And there have been so many times I have wanted to call you on some of the things you were doing and saying. Why not just go around telling everyone that if they really want the sky to turn purple bad enough, it will?
Anyway, I don't even need to go into it because I think Claudia and Kresine pretty much summed up what I was thinking.
But I have said it SO many times before...If you would just focus as much time and attention into getting fit as you do whining and complaining about not getting chosen and making all of these tapes and going to casting calls or whatever you want to call them---YOU WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO EVEN WANT TO GET ON THE DARN SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You would BE IN SHAPE and you would BE HAPPY!!!
EVERYONE CAN'T BE CHOSEN. There are no gimmiks or tricks that are going to HELP you get chosen.
That's all there is to it.
It's a shame that you couldn't have just taken Claudia's post with more maturity and a better attitude.
Good Luck.

<<I'm trying to keep hopes high, sure it's like a lottery ticket but if no one felt excited about possibly winning the lottery then no one would buy a ticket and the lottery would be no more. So whats your point?, would you like the show to just end?>>


I think that you and I must be reading different posts. If I recall, CC said that she has a job now that many thought she wouldn't get. I believe she also said something about dreams being wonderful but that there was a difference between having dreams and putting your life ON HOLD for them.

To use your analogy about the lottery, yes, go buy your ticket. But don't stop paying your bills, either. I found her posts very wise and eloquent.

I don't enjoy getting into "wars" with anyone on the board, but I do back everything Kresine said. You did insult this lady several times. There are thousands upon thousands of people who DO work in Los Angeles. It is not so unusual that one would post on this board. As someone who lived & worked in LA MANY MOONS AGO (and is planning to move back there), I have many friends in every aspect of the business out there and even now, in a freelance capacity, I work "in LA." I have posted a little about my background months and months ago on this board and am not making anything up. My posts were about another subject entirely, but everything in CC's post made complete sense to me.

And you know what, even in Hollywood, people do get breaks, if minimal at times, to post on a board, eat their lunch or do whatever. I had worked for someone who had me sitting at my desk until 2 a.m. with no regard for my having dinner or much else, but that's another story.

I have always believed in the song from South Pacific, "Happy Talk," which said, "If you don't have a dream; how you gonna have a dream come true." I believe in this. Like FM, I have a novel (two, actually) that I would like to publish. I've come THISCLOSE to getting an agent many times. The rejection is bad enough, but the waiting time is the worst! I recently sent a book to an agency in LA that wanted books to also turn into movies. Out of thousands of submissions, mine made it through the first cut and I was told (5 months after submitting it) that it would be "discussed" in a meeting the following week. I waited and waited. When I called 2 months later, they told me it wasn't selected and when I asked why my materials were not returned, I was told that I hadn't submitted an SASE. That was totally untrue and I wasted 6 months and a lot of $$. When an agency reads your novel, in most cases you give "temporarily exclusivity" so that nobody else can look at it until they're done!

I know what rejection is like, and even though I have received high praise from agents, I'm still not there yet. I don't give up hope, and I encourage FM to keep at it, but I would also not tell her to do so at the expense of reality. I don't think ANYONE (but I'll only speak for moi), would tell you not to have dreams. What has bothered me about your posts is that you just seem determined to stay in your dream world. That's how it comes across; I do not know you and am not here to analyze you. I am only telling you how I have interpreted what you are saying.

CC, whoever she is and whatever she does, HAS a clue about show business. I can't help but get the idea that your brush with the producers of TBL have made you a self-proclaimed expert of sorts. That's what comes across to me.

This thred seems to have created much chitter chatter so I don't mind if I toss my hat into the ring.

I think it may be possible that Claudia does work somewhere in the TV/film arena, although, she has represented herself
in a might negative way here. I can only speak for myself in saying that she has come across to me as someone who lacks some extent of professionalism thus I took from various cheep shots she made at many of you, strangly so some of you have come back to defend her for it?

PrettynPink, I see you as a dreamer but not in a bad way, you are one of the only people here who dare to defy the odds and post something new. I did appreciate the tips you shared on video making and don't knock you for being up beat. I have enjoyed your enthusiam for the show and for all those who dared to try out, or as you would say 'to dream'.

don't let the na sayers stomp your drive...you may have just what it takes.

Kresine you jumped on the wagon here full of fire, what bothers me is that you also replied to a thred that clearly invited only those who were not setting up shop to bag on others. PNP clearly stated that this thred was created for the people who wanted a fun and light hearted place to share like minded feelings, why is it you feel you must vent your pessimistic feelings on this thred as well?

Misty, ditto.

CS

Hey there DaraCat, Misty, Kresine, Claudia & Chris

wow, I can't beieve the responce to this thred, thank you
Chris for brining everything back full circle!! This thred is for the people who love the show...not the therapist in the crowd, alas my efforts were muddled by people who think I'm encouraging applicants to take out 2nd mortgages on thier homes to buy video tapes and follow the "super Size me" weight gain plan. Just want you girls to know that hey, I'm walking everyday and working out in the gym too, have been losing weight by eating smaller postions and making better food choices...I think it's an insult to most people to think they didn't have a clue that diet and exercise are what works...don't you all think?

I didn't feel I needed to put a disclaimer on my thred stating "now you all need to keep working out and eating better and paying your bills and don't quit your jobs and move to LA and become a waiter.. but hey wouldn't it be fun to be on the show?"

This thred got way out of control..
wow, ..you girls need to take a deep breath here!
I'm really just a fun person who is up beat and happy...sorry if it offened any of you but I still love TBL!!! ...and wouldn't it be fun to be on the show!!! I think so.

PrettynPink

hey, gee, i'm really sorry. I've never been on a board b/f where certain posts were "by invitation only!!" i didn't know this -- gosh, i feel real stupid.

U know, maybe in YOUR world u haven't seen people doing CRAZY things 2 get on this show. In my world -- i have!! i mentioned the one lady who gained 40 lbs. (she was already 50 lbs. overweight) to get on the show. She thought 50 lbs. overweight wasn't ENOUGH! i've got other stories but i am not able to post them for various reasons. i have seen how false hopes can do EXTREMELY damaging things to people IN MY WORLD!! okay??? can't i have an opinion?? can't i speak from MY exp???

i'm not here to trash PNP (are u a friend of hers; i think so), i posted my opinion b/c i've been freakin' flabbergasted by the wild stuff seemingly intelligent people will do. i wanted to present another side of the story. that doesnt have to invalidate anyone else.

hey, i'm one of the most optimistic people in the world! I want people to be happy & healthy & enjoy their lives. because i don't subscribe to and agree with Miss Pollyanna, doesn't make me a pessimist. i don't really get what is so threatening about my having another take on this -- esp. from what i have witnessed in my personal life. Ain't nothing wrong with dreaming if u r based in reality??

it's your opinion Claudia represented herself in a negative way. i thought she was FABULOUS!! We disagree. okay? that's okay, isn't it??

But hey, when u set up threads (not threds) on boards -- they're not by invitation only.

Geez, b/c some of us have a diff take u think we're dream stompers. No way!!! I have two kids and i LOVE it when they dream big. But they know reality, too. It's okay when my son tells me he dreams of being a flying dinosaur. cool! only i don't want him jumping outta his B/R window trying to fly. I guess u will never get my point. there's room here for EVERYBODY!! i never thought PNP shouldn't have her dreams -- i thought she may be inadvertantly encouraging naive people to do foolish things. THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL!!! i was concerned. God forgive me!!!

Kresine

Chris Spencer,

First of all, you said this...

<<PrettynPink, I see you as a dreamer but not in a bad way, you are one of the only people here who dare to defy the odds and post something new. I did appreciate the tips you shared on video making and don't knock you for being up beat. I have enjoyed your enthusiam for the show and for all those who dared to try out, or as you would say 'to dream'.>>

You think that what she posted was NEW?? Then obviously you haven't looked at any of her other posts.
And if you think she has the drive to get on a tv show, then why don't you think she has the drive to do it on her own? All WE (myself, Kresine, Claudia, DaraCat) are and have been trying to say is that this show is not the BE ALL AND END ALL of weight loss. YOU CAN DO THIS ON YOUR OWN. And we say this from experience because we have all done it ourselves. Giving out hope and helping eachother is one thing but going to the extreme of, "If I don't get on this show, I'll never lose weight" is what really gets to me. You guys all come here and post how much you're doing to get on the show, but we never hear you posting ANYTHING about how hard you are trying to do this on your own. Or how you've taken what the show has taught you and applied it to your lives so that you can BE HEALTHY.
But we should have never expected some of you to take our advice for what is was. EXCUSE ME for posting on a thread I was not "ALLOWED" or "INVITED" to post on. Talk about childish. That one takes the cake.
And Kresine and I being pessemistic??? Obviously you have no idea what or whom you are speaking of. We have been members of this board for a very long time. And you know something else? We actually HELP one another and do so by telling the truth. Rather than telling eachother what we think the other one wants to hear, we tell the truth whether it hurts or not. I don't believe you will even understand what that means.
So, I'll let you all get back to the bubble you are living in. I wish you all the best in getting chosen for the show.
I JUST KNOW YOU WILL ALL MAKE IT!! You are all perfect candidates, you have what it takes and you have made the best videos. They couldn't possibly pass the opportunity by to cast ALL OF YOU!!
Yeah, that's the way you wanted it, right?
Like I said, good luck.

u know, it's kind of ironic how the subject line got cut off where it did. "Don't give up on the SPIN!" Yeah, how appropriate is that????

i think Chris is PNP. U both spell "thred" the wrong way, both talk about "bagging posts." Hmmmmmmmmmmm!!

Misty is one of the BEST people i have EVER had the pleasure to meet on any board! she has been totally upfront & honest about herself & her struggles. this cool girl from Canada just kicked the cig habit. and she wrote post after post tellin' people to stay on her case, not to let her slip into denial, to tell it like it is! i can say w/o a doubt that she put herself OUT THERE and was not afraid to hear what people had to say. And she's QUIT!! that's awesome!! i'm totally proud of her! And so is my daughter!! i told her about Misty wanting to quit (b/c i'm alerting my kids at a VERY young age to the dangers) & my daughter was asking me all the time if "the Misty lady on the board quit yet?" i didn't want to lie & so i waited until misty gave me the good word. this girl is one of the sweetest, most likeable people i've EVER encountered on a board. she's got a heart as big as her country!! and then some!! Same for DaraCat!! she's been on here longer than me and she's been so encouraging to people -- telling them that they have the power to lose weight, etc. that people have trashed her for being positive. that s/t has floored me. i've seen DC write the sweetest posts to help someone out there who maybe had nobody and then she was reemed out 4 her thoughtfulness. so, what it is -- if we agree w/your point PNP/Chris, we are positive -- if we disagree we're negative.

hey the way i see it the world is big enough 4 all of our opinions. isn't it wonderful that u can feel one way and we can feel another!! U can express your view & i can express mine -- and so can CC, Misty & DC. Wow! freedom! what a great concept!

Kresine, it seems your intentions are well ment, I can see this.
I don't really think most people on this board are ready to sell the farm to be on the show though. Every person is responsible for themselves, we are all grown ups here. I don't really see that PNP's enthusiasm is a cuase for alarm,
why not embrace a different idea?

you are not responsible for how or what people do with the posts they read, nor is anyone else. while a friend of yours may have gained weight to be on the show 1000 others never thought of it..they most likely filled out an app, made a video and mailed it in..that was that. I think one of the things that this board is for is for support, now we can support each other by giving advice on weight loss, work outs or maybe even video making. I never read a post of PNP where she came in and put down anyone for giving advice on weight loss or working out...so why would you want to put her down for talking about advice on how to make a video or just her feelings about getting onto the show?

Just some things to think about. I'm not putting you down here either, just putting my hat in again.

CS

Hey there Chris

I thank you for your kindness since a few of my peers
on this board seem to thrive on tearing my every last post apart. Looks like we are kindred spirts as well, since as it was pointed out, niether of us know how to spell 'thred' (thread) correctly. I know that is very rare indeed and most likely every other person in the world does know how to spell it, could it be possible that we are soul mates?

once again, thank you for coming to my rescue...have you tried out for the show?

PrettynPink

My 2 cents:

I think all of you have valid points... and the levels of passion exhibited by each of you is probably driven by how closely involved you actually were in the whole spin-off project.

Granted, for those of us who had been told "the plane tickets are in the mail", the frustration and disappointment can probably invoke a little more hostility than the average response. I am really glad the "emotional scars" of the experience didn't quite get that deep for me and I could easily get over the fact that things didnt happen as planned.

Some advice for the LA bunch though:

Sounds like you guys also need to slow down a bit and enjoy life. I work in the medical field and also have a very high stress, demanding job that requires many, many, many late nights without breaks for dinner and the restroom. But mixed in that high stress, demanding environment, we do find time for compassion and are truly concerned about how our actions affect other people. And in the midst of the hustle and bustle, we do slow down enough to make sure our decisions haven't adversely affected someone else. And if they have, we at least have the courtesy to acknowledge the error of our ways. (BTW CC, I honestly think you will do well in your endeavors).

Hollywood or no Hollywood, if you are moving way too fast, aren't enjoying life enough and are depending on something/someone else for your happiness, then SLOW DOWN, TAKE A DEEP BREATH and ENJOY LIFE. It's way too short to kill yourself over the what-might-have-beens and what-I-might-have-dones.

Step, step, step >>>> 2TonCharlie is now climbing down off of his soapbox!

Hello Pretty soul mate

you're welcome for the rescue! No I didn't try out for the show, my sister did. I helped her with the whole video making process, it was an ordeal, but I was glad to help her. I can't say much more about it for now, sorry.

you take it easy and I'll be watchin out for you!

CS

Pretty,
Here is my e-mail address
ChrisSpencer5555@hotmail.com

talk to you soon
CS

Chris -- what i cannot seem to get across to u guys is that i am NOT putting down PNP for dreaming of getting on TBL!!!! For one, i'm reacting to what i've read on this board for MONTHS and MONTHS and MONTHS! it's been making me CRRAAAZZZY (crazier than i already am!!) Perhaps u think i'm just reacting to PNP; i'm not. i'm reacting to posts from tons of people. PNP's post just got to me 'cause while I'm down with her about having a dream, when someone else would post something a bit more realistic, just to keep people's heads outta the clouds -- it's like she didn't even acknowledge it. there are so many vulnerable and desperate people out that who might misinterpret what she is saying.

PNP's posts have bothered me b/c i have felt they're giving the impression that if u just do this or that, u will greatly increase your chances. then someone else has come on and posted another side, and she's gone RIGHT back to the dreaming stuff w/o even acknowledging the "other side" until her later posts. it's like i've been trying to let people know that their chances are slim to none -- hope is great -- but go about your life assuming YOU won't be chosen. Some of her posts have been SO enthusiastic that they seem to be negating the sensible advice. Both ideas can thrive but she seems to have blinders on.


what do you mean "embrace a different idea?" I DO embrace hope!! hey, i write music and people think i'm nuts and will never sell it. only i HAVE!! (but i don't wanna talk about that bizz on this board!) i KNOW what it's like to have a BIG dream. But the thing is, when u share that dream, realize that u are talking to people who might misinterpret that it's YOUR dream and go ahead and mess up their life b/c they think they have a great shot.

i don't think CC, DaraCat, Misty or any of us is against dreaming. DaraCat wrote about her frustrations in getting her novel published -- yeah -- i think she gets it.

the sad thing is that i don't think we're all in as much disagreement as one might think. We're just saying to exercise some caution in what u put out there -- hey, i can't speak for CC whom i don't know, but DC, Misty & I are BIG cheerleaders 4 people!!

i understand that PNP is talking about HER feelings about getting on the show, but it comes off differently to me -- way different. Hey, there are two sides to a coin and both the heads & tails are okay w/me. it doesn't have to be one or the other. i am soooooooooo frustrated i can't explain more to u -- maybe u would see why i am SO passionate about this!! i'm not here to trash anyone; that is SO not who i am or what i'm about. Hey -- some people just click w/one another & others don't. What can i say? i have no ill feelings toward anyone but yeah i've got great bonds with some & not others. So be it. Not everyone is gonna like me -- as marvelous as i am!! LOL!

gotta run, kids need a snack (a healthful one!!!)

Take care,

Kresine

Kresine I hear you and agree with both you and PNP.

Still it isn't our duty to police the posts in here. I think all of you girls are the 'cheerleaders' of the board. Everyone does have a valid point, but who really started this back and forth rant that seems to be going on? I would like to ask each one of you what brought you to this board, I think that is a good place to start.

CS

Hey there Chris

I have watched the board for a while, never posted, then decided what the heck, why not? What brought me here was that I watched the show, well, I saw the first episode and thought it was a show that made fun of overweight folks, so I didn't tune back in until the end and caught the last 3 episodes, I then relised what the show was really about and I loved it. I checked out the web sight and read the episodes I had missed..watched the bios and short video clips, I got really inspired and decided to try out, that was over 7 months ago, and these last 7 months have been filled with tears of both joy and sadness, it's been an up and down hill whirl wind experiance for me..I have really learned a lot, and it's not over yet. The tips I have given are things that the producers themselves have told me, I also know a few folks in the industry.

As for me, I know what my odds are and I know that a healthy body is a life long everyday investment. I have said in my posts that if you get into great shape while 'waiting' for the show then 'great' check out a different show, amazing race? Anyway, almost everyone knows someone who has tried out for or been on a reality show, it's a common thing. My Bosses son was on one and is slated for another. It's not altogether a 'dream'..heck you could take a trip down to Universal Studios and be on Fear Factor starting in July...look it up on thier web site if you don't believe me.

So that's me, that's what brought me here and here I am, a cheerleader and a dreamer, I think the cast of TBL could use both!!

PrettynPink

Hey there Charlie

I agree with your post, stress is bad for eveyone. I incooperate relaxation into my weekly routine as well as excercise. One of my favs is to get a chair massage, it seems most places have someplace that will offer a 15-20 min. chair massage and for a small price $10.00 or so...it's a nice, budget friendly way to pamper yourself on a lunch break, a day off or when ever, a lot of air ports have them too. Swimming for me is a stress reliever, I have a pool but the YMCA has great deals on memberships, it's a great way to get finess in as well, using under water weights is nice and low stress on the body too.

I hope you were able to go ahead with your summer plans. I know it's hard not to hear anything for so long, I know thats how it goes, I talked to someone from season one and she said even for her it was a long wait and then it just really happened so fast. who knows Charlie, sounds like they more then liked you, maybe you'll be someone they look at for TBL3?.You probebly are fed up by now, I know a lot of people are. It was and is still cool to know you had that 'something special' that caught thier eye! Thanks for chatting with me! I'd love to see your video sometime!

PrettynPink

Hello:

I'm a bit nervous posting on this thread because I'm not a person who is comfortable around controversy, but being as shy as I am, I am trying to be better in this area. Anyway, I felt I had to say a few words.

First, I want to say that Kresine has been really wonderful to me since I came on this board and has been a super positive influence for me. So have Misty, DaraCat, Guitar Man, DC, Seansmamma (nikki) and others. I thank you all.

PrettyNPink: I understand dreaming a lot. As a very fat girl who people got down on, I had a lot of dreams. I'm WAY too shy to have ever wanted to go on TV, but i dreamed of a lot of romantic stuff. I found my prince WHILE I was fat and then I lost the weight. Now, it is my dream to have a family with my wonderful husband. I feel truly happy.

I read the nice posts from Ryan Benson who said how he was really lucky to get on the show but that it was pretty impossible to do. He also said that he didn't need a video tape until he got auditioned and then he did his own and they liked him because he was natural. His advice was not to waste money on fancy video editing.

I do understand that you have a dream and you are just having fun discussing it with others that have the same dream. Nobody can fault you for that. From knowing the people who posted to you (except ClaudiaCool), I think they were just concerned that some people are taking the daydreaming a step further than they maybe should. That's all.

I wasn't even going to post this story but now I think it's just what everyone has been talking about. Last week I went to the doctor. Well, there was a very obese lady next to me and she was saying that she wanted help to lose weight but she hated the diet the doctor put her on and it wasn't working. I could tell she just didn't want to follow it. I tried to help her by telling her that I had lost over 100 lbs. I thought it would encourage her. Well, at first I thought it sorta did. Then I told her that I come on this website and get GREAT support! I told her that maybe it would help her. She said to me that she's checked the site out a while back but they're done casting so why bother?? I was kiinda shocked. I told her that she could still get great support and advice from others. She told me that she didn't need any support NOW because she wasn't doing anything until they cast for the NEXT SEASON!! Holy Moley!! I was floored. I realized she had more than weight problems so I just smiled and read REDBOOK! Luckily, they called my name soon!!

So, I think probably my pals here are thinking about people like her who can so easily be distracted. Then again, people like this woman don't want to do ANYTHING no matter what anybody tells them, but I think there are people who sort of fall in the middle that CC, Kresine, Misty & DaraCat were concerned about. I could be wrong. This is just my take!

And now, having said that, I am the happiest person on the planet tonight. I didn't want to say anything earlier, but I am pregnant and THRILLED. I actually knew sooner but it wasn't all that long ago I found out. I wanted to pass my first trimester to tell anybody!!

So, I'm very happy and wish everybody on this board -- to my friends and the friends I've not yet met -- all the best.

God Bless,

Windy

Big congrads to you WhistlingWind!!

That is so wonderful, thanx for sharing your baby news!

I understand the point you are making, I know there are people out there that have the way wrong idea, I've read the posts too.

I was hoping that my posts were being read or looked over or responded to by people with like minds...in that,I mean people who were working on themselves still with diet and fitness but had been through simular steps as I have been through with the whole casting process. Just wanted to chat about what it was like how they feel..just really to process the whole thing, it really is quiet an experince if you have never been through it before, I haven't, just wanted to bounce ideas off one another, keeping it light and fun, it did hit some folks pretty hard, the let down..this place is a good place, in fact the perfect place to work through all that if you need, just talking about it I think really helps.

I have tried to clearify many times that fact, I'm not in a bubble and unaware of the people who take things too far but heck someone could take the concept of 'eat more healthy' too far..what about the person who takes that and goes on a carrot juice fast for 3 weeks? I think at any given time with any given 'advice' or comments someone out there is going to go too far or take it the wrong way. Do we all just stop talking in fear of this?

Looking back at some of my posts I am sorry for a few things I have said in haste..I am human too and felt picked on, backed into a corner...and I couldn't really understand why, I was only sharing my feelings like all of you.

I am excited for the show, I can't help that. It's about time someone addressd the issue of people who are overweight
and gave them inspiration and the ability to see the transformation on TV ...to say hey, it really does work..look how great all these people look.

Anyway, thanx for writing, your thoughts were well taken, hope mine were the same. Take care and congrads again on your new baby on the way.

PrettynPink

<<So, I think probably my pals here are thinking about people like her who can so easily be distracted. Then again, people like this woman don't want to do ANYTHING no matter what anybody tells them, but I think there are people who sort of fall in the middle that CC, Kresine, Misty & DaraCat were concerned about. I could be wrong. This is just my take!

And now, having said that, I am the happiest person on the planet tonight. I didn't want to say anything earlier, but I am pregnant and THRILLED. I actually knew sooner but it wasn't all that long ago I found out. I wanted to pass my first trimester to tell anybody!!>>


Hey Windy!! Wow!!! Congrats!! I a SOOOOO happy 4 u, girl!! That's awesome!! U posted so many times about having a family & I swear, i kept visualizing u posting the good news on this board. Awesome!! And good 4 u to keep it quiet for a while. U will make the best mom -- u r truly a loving soul just like Nikki!

hey, u r smart, 2! I think u just explained ME better than i've explained ME. U really got it!

Chris -- are U a psychologist or do u just play one on the board? LOL!!

Okay, u wanna know why I came on the board! First, i actually didn't see TBL while it was on. A friend did and taped the entire thing so i watched it all at once. (boy, they sure lost weight FAST that way!) LOL!

i had gained WAY too much weight and was 90 lbs. overweight. I hated it. I didn't want to pay for a gym and something inside me told me that wasn't the answer 4 me. i could feel that i just wasn't motivated right nor had i dealt w/my issues. To me, it didn't matter WHAT diet i went on cause i knew they'd ALL fail till i got my head screwed on right.

okay, well, as i've posted many months ago on this board, i joined this group of women in the neighborhood. It was this one-shot thing where this psychologist was leading it & discussing the weight thing from a psych POV. We did the exercise & eating stuff on our own. Well, wow, we all learned a lot!! i figured out all the reasons i was sabotaging my weight loss & i reminded myself why that was a completely unnecessary thing to do. There were really ALL kinds of issues people had that were keeping them fat and the least imp. reason was NOT knowing how to "diet." so, i came on this board to not only help people, but to let people know u gotta have your head on straight b/f u can do it. i came into the group knowing i had a mental block but not being able to identify it. Same w/another woman who like me lost a ton! Okay, well there were others who just didn't get it and i think didn't wanna get it. Every reason in the book. They were always waitin on SOMETHING to stop. Sorta like smokers who say they can't quit until all the stress in their life disappears. I can't get deep into everyone's personal stories cause some of them read this board, but i can say that i am particulary sensitive to people who use excuses not to lose weight.

So, PNP, i'm not talking about U -- but my fear was that u were influencing these kind of people who needed HARD reality and not dreams of grandeur. I saw SO damn much of it and recognize it miles away so when i read your posts -- it's like -- this is SO the LAST thing some of these people need to hear!! That's the best i can explain it and I certain do not "thrive" on trashing u or anyone else. i'm a very upbeat person. I've got two kids i adore, a hub I adore, and i have work/career aspirations that i also do PT and don't talk about on this board. so i'm very busy but i enjoy taking breathers to chat w/my buds here like DaraCat, Misty, Windy, Nikki, GMan, DC, Henry & Shay!! (we love each other & have to keep mentioning each other's names! LOL!)

i don't know ClaudiaCool, but i liked her post; sorry. i thought she was cool. hey 2toncharlie: i don't know where u got the idea she never had any down time or fun. i don't know her but i didn't pick that up in her post. sounds like maybe u r projecting a Hwood sterotype on her! Whatever -- she can come back & post 4 herself if she wants. i have a hard enuff time posting 4 me!!

okay, well Dr. Chris -- patient Kresine reported for evaluation!! LOL!!

Take care everybody

Kresine ("Kerosene" to her spell checker & friends!)

hey PNP:

i guess we were posting at the same time. it kinda freaked me out b/c I went back to read MY post and starting reading yours thinking it was MINE. I'm like, "i never called Windy "Whistling Wind!" Am i losing it?? Then I realized it was YOUR post! LOL!

i appreciate what u wrote a lot & feel like i understand u much better. i hope u understand me & my pals better, too.

more later, wanna go spend some quality time w/my hub & still have one more post to do!!

Kresine (don't worry; i'm not contagious! LOL!)

Hey there Kresine

well it seems maybe we have come to a happy ending or should I say happy begining. Glad we 'got' each other...it feels good to be on the 'outside' of the bubble, lol ,head out of the clouds but dang it...I'm still a dreamer!...reminds me of a song.."dream a little dream for me". ok, so I'm a goof ball..I'm glad we are smiling again!!

Hope to chat with you again..maybe we should start a new thread? hehe..ok, just kidding! I'll try not to start any new threads for a while! Looks like I have driven a few of you half crazy already!


PrettynPink

Windy Im sooo happy for you ! That is such great news ! You are going to be such a wonderful mom . I love being a mom its the best job ever . I just love baby shopping . I wish you the best . Take care of yourself .

Nikki

<< i don't know ClaudiaCool, but i liked her post; sorry. i thought she was cool. hey 2toncharlie: i don't know where u got the idea she never had any down time or fun. i don't know her but i didn't pick that up in her post. sounds like maybe u r projecting a Hwood sterotype on her! Whatever -- she can come back & post 4 herself if she wants. i have a hard enuff time posting 4 me!!>>

Hey Kresine:

I wasn't suggesting that CC specifically needed the down time, just the Hollywood bunch might consider slowing down some in general based on her comments:

<< First, let me give you a a few different reasons that you may have been treated that way. Pandemondium often rules many offices and people work crazy hours. Sometimes, people just don't care, or sometimes they care but are so overworked that its enough to just get done what one needs to do. Sadly, there is no time for what some would consider "superfluous chores." Often, people who might make the calls are being asked to juggle MORE than 3 [censored] :-), and perhaps making a phone call to an once-prospective candidate simply falls between the cracks. >>

I too seem to have taken a liking to ClaudiaCool so it wasnt directed at her specifically. Thank goodness for 24 hour Starbucks on the left coast!

Soon to be 1-1/2TonCharlie

Hello everyone:

I'm glad to see that the stir I inadvertantly caused has quieted down. I think many of you very eloquently made the points that I was trying to get across. Kresine, as you pointed things out from your perspective (of having been in the group lead by a psychologist), your buttons were being pushed, in a way, to parallel to mine.

Even though I am currently working for a company producing documentaries at the moment, the things that people will go to for a pie-in-the-sky dream are a reality to us all everyday. Perhaps we SHOULD do a documentary on the subject some day; it would be quite interesting. PNP would certain be a welcome voice in such a project, I might add!

2tonCharlie: As for my nature of the frenetic activity here at times, that is typical of any office or studio during pre-production or production time. We work hard when the pressure is on and we enjoy ourselves when the pressure is off. An Emergency Room, unfortunately, is busy on certain nights or during certain times of the year. One does what one needs to do. Sometimes we do not get a lot of rest, but we get more than medical interns do. During hiatus, we can get too much rest if we don't find something else to do! However, not everyone is unemployed during that time. As I said, I need not get into a dissertation of how things work. I would also like to say to 2tonCharlie that I was describing reaons you MAY NOT have heard back from 3Ball. I was trying to make you feel better so that you didn't think you were perceived as someone who didn't deserve respect. I'm sorry you inferred from such that we were breaking adult labor laws here. And yes, we love Starbucks!

We work in a quite lovely environment. Working on a lot is like working in a small city. Many of the offices are former dressing rooms of stars or are set up like apartments or homes. We have our own kitchen here, living area and our work areas. Even when we work late at night, we are quite comfortable.

Actually, some days, when I can make the time, I walk across the lot to the back gate which is pretty much across the street from Forest Lawn in Burbank. (the larger Forest Lawn is in Glendale). It's beautiful and serene and I often feel very peaceful returning.

I must make a confession to PNP. I had to laugh when you suggested I be fired, as it was my boss who asked me to write in the first place. She had been perusing many boards for research purposes and came upon these posts. As this is an area we talk about frequently for reasons I cannot go into, she assigned me the task of basically talking for everyone. I think the reason given was "You're the most prolific writer of the group; you do it." Flattery, flattery. It gets me doing far more things than I would ordinarily be doing! And it gets me into trouble!

Well, that explained, I must go back to work (yes, we do get breaks) and watch footage with our editor for many hours. It's gonna be a long one.

Good luck to all of you.

Oh, PNP: I look terrible in pink -- I'm sure you look much nicer than I do. Pastels do strange things to me!

Best,

CC.

ClaudiaCool:

I like you more after every post I read!! Ya just make me smile!

I know I deserve the respect... and I guess thats what chapped me a bit by not getting it! ;-)

Although we dont tend to get too many breaks in my line of work, once in awhile they unlock the doors and let us visit Starbucks too. Ours just close at midnight and we occasionally have to resort to vending machine coffee instead (yes, just like on TV, there really is some reality in TV).

Thanks for being a trooper and sticking with us, even through the whining and moaning!

Denny Crane will now assume that major combat is over.

Denny Crane

Hey there~
ClaudiaCool, Ms. Cool's Boss and everyone else on this thread and at the lot in Burbank~

ok, Ms. Cool's boss, I think it was a great idea to send Ms. Cool into the ring. I did always think she knew her stuff and, no, I don't think she should be fired.

I feel somehow as if I have taken part in some kind of weird science experiment.

well, wouldn't it be a great concept to go to a message board and take from it the wildest characters and make a reality show out of it...hmmm.

ok, I'm ready, I'd gladley be a part of your documentary!! sounds fun....wait, let me pack,... sun glasses, make up, perfume, full wardrobe of pretty n pink outfits... ... ... ...ok, Hollywood/Burkbank I'm all ready.

I've got to get back to my bubble in the clouds now!! It was truely fun chatting with you all!

With all my heart~
PrettynPink

Not to take CC's side (because I don't like taking sides,) but the comma was used correctly (in that case, before the quotes.) Although your name doesn't have a comma in it, CC did place the comma in the correct position. Punctuation always comes before quotes or parenthesis.

LOL! Thank you, Brian. Much appreciated. My boss read your post and said to me, "See, that's why I picked YOU to do my dirty work!"

I guess this is why they pay me the big [censored]$! (Hey, did I just say that? Nahhhhhhh! Just kidding MC!)

Take care, everyone.

CC

Okay, so one can't use the word B A L L S. We all know that. But now I learn one cannot also use the word B U C K ! Odd.

Back to the grind. (I'm going to make myself some coffee!

CC

Hey there Claudia~

Thought you might be burning the midnight oil tonight so I thought I'd stop in.

I was wondering what your boss and you think of or make of all of this, (the board/the players). Just wondering since you guys have most likely viewed other boards and work with reality shows and all, I guess an objective opinion is what I'm after. Doesn't hurt to ask, right? I understand if you are limited in what can be said.

as always~
PrettynPink

Hi PNP:

I think you may be jumping to a few conclusions here. I'm sorry; I'm not at liberty to reveal what we're working on. Now THAT, WOULD get me fired! LOL!

But in general, as people, not producers, writers, directors, or anything inbetween, just as people, we find the discussions, interesting, funny (we love Denny & Guitar Man), and we sometimes get frustrated, as I think you already know. What I've been able to share from a professional standpoint I've already done. But we will keep reading!

Stay Pretty in Pink,

CC

Hey there Claudia

Thanx for the reply, I fully understand...have fun and take it easy!

PrettynPink