If You've you?ve looked at this message board then you?ve already seen that you've got insane and irrational fans in Finland, they`re possible dangerous freaks too, and you?d be better to avoid this sucky country.

USA has Johny Cash and Bob Hope, Finland has no cash and no hope.

Some people in Finland truly hate Sweden, and the Swedish-speaking people. Finns used to mostly hate the Russians before the war, but that changed. After The Soviet Union beat us up in the war we have really grown to hate the Swedes more.

Sure, all the small nations hate the bigger neighbor. But the Swedish-hate in Finland really is something else. I know some people who can't sleep with their hate.

If you're Swedish and speak up Swedish in the Streets of Helsinki, you'll be mocked. Everyone will shout at you: J?vla b?rje! or Go to your home country! And they are determined you to be a homosexual. Every homosexual gets beaten up in Finland. Finns are not homosexuals. Some people in Finland know for sure all the Swede males are homosexuals.

And if you go to a krog in friday night, you'll probably get beaten up. At saturday night it is safer, because the Finns are too drunk then after the friday night.

Welcome to Finland, Conan! Come and visit us in Salo area!

(The fact that Conan looks like Tarja Halonen maybe really a proof that Finns came originally from Ireland, I agree. That's a better direction than the theory that we came from east).

Oooh, I think that irish men are in no way inferior to you finns in view of drinking ...

He says a joke and bunch of Finns are looking for a great gottage for him.

Sorry to bump this thread but. Whoa did you even think before you posted? That is some pretty retarded shait you typed. Not sure if you were just trying to be funny though.

"Finns used to mostly hate the Russians"

Not really. It was the Swedish rule that was worse.

"to a krog"
They're called pubs in English. The krog ( I looked it up on the net) is a Swedish word, and yes, the pubs the Swedish-speaking go to, should be avoided, even by foreigners as they can suspect the foreigner to be a Finn.

"all the Swede males are homosexuals"
It is not only Finns. Also the Danes apparently think so. I came across a website with someone commenting the building they made near Denmark "they cannot even make a building straight" (they made a building, not really high like those in new york or elsewhere, but higher than others in northern europe
http://www.bodab.se/test_webcam_torso2.asp
(unless you count london and frankfurt as northern europe), for some reason, finns have never had enough ambition to build high buildings, most towns are only 4-7 stories)

others have visited finland too (during the summer people usually visit, yet there a happenings during the winter, too, http://www.snowcastle.net/
http://www.ouka.fi/iceswim2006/english/ to see how finland really is like, a visit during january could be recommended, to a town like oulu, which is relatively north and by the sea, so there is snow, dark and wind at the same time )
dennis rodman in finland: (iltasanomat)
"Samppanja virtasi ja naiset villiintyiv?t, kun"
"champagne flowed and women got wild, when.."
"Ja jos h?n pyyt?? jatkoille niin hell yeah! mallint?it?kin tehnyt Pallovirta naureskeli. "
"if he asks to come with, hell yeah, pallovirta, who also used to be a model, said"
http://www.soneraplaza.fi/vapaaaika/artikk...-296660,00.html
bam margera in finland

Why shouldn't he come to Finland? It would only great to have a star like to visit this country. Maybe Tarja willl invite him to to presidents castle to party with all the Finnish celebrities. I wonder why you keep such a big noise about Finland being such a ****** country when all you really obviosly want is him to come here. So shut up and be a proud Finn.

Sweden is better country than Finland. Swedes are better than finns.

I've been in Sweden and I have noticed no difference to Finland at all. Only thing that's different is the language.

I'm all serious. Finns really hate the Swedes. Ask Heikki Tala of the Finnish Alliance (Suomalaisuuden Liitto). He has said Finland has every reason to hate the Swedish, Sweden and especially the Swedish-speaking Finnish people.

"Maybe Tarja willl invite him to to presidents castle to party with all the Finnish celebrities. "

She should, with all the free advertising she got, she got advertised more than her campaign could have afforded (it does not matter as it has been obvious she gets elected, as long as other parties do not have female candidates - I cannot understand why not, it is like, they do not even want to have one of their own to be president - to 2nd term the whole time she has been the president), but when not coming to finland, not taking the whole band with him, would not be (now i got mixed up, do i say, a good idea, or not be a good idea???? the band could not tour the whole country ???? and when not coming to finland, not taking for example the excellent english comedian ali g with him, would make a really bad (or do i say good) idea)

I would estimate maybe about 1 percent max of finns have even heard of the name heikki tala, mentioned in your post.
Here's his pages:
http://www.suomalaisuudenliitto.fi/sl-english.htm


Lots of Finns are not aware at all of their country's history, heikki tala is a historian. First the viking invaded the country's villages, doing what they did all over europe, then the same people became swedes after they formed a nation, the same continued, finns were taken into the swedish army agaisnt their will, taxed a lot so the swedes (and the finns in the army) could go around killing europeans etc; even to this day, the swedish in finland continue to force their will and their language to the finns, who are forced to learn swedish and thus in schools there usually is not even available more important languages of larger and more peaceful countries such as french, german, italian, chinese, japanese, etc.

What is wrong with the black people ?
I think Finland could well take right away five million black people to show the locals how it is done.
Current situation is, Finns do not make babies. In Europe, it is only the Irish who still continue to make babies. We should look up to and learn from the Irish.
Europe created the Viking, the Nazi and the Commies.
But Finland did not create any of those, Finland fought (and lost) all of those, so Finns should not continue in the european ways. Finns should break free.

Unless they learn to, they will not exist anymore.
There is too much power given to women and men who want to do it but hate children.
Condoms should be forbidden, as should smoking (women start to stink, men do not want to even have sex anymore, also they make babies who already are addicts to nicotine when they are born, not good), all taxes in pubs should be abolished: if men and women do not meet, comes no babies.

"..looking for a cottage.."

Hey, that's a great idea, lets get some town give conan a peaceful cottage by a quiet lake ! Something different from NYC ! Kuusamo has the most cottages, according to the statistics bureau:
http://www.stat.fi/ajk/tiedotteet/v2004/147asus.html
http://www.kuusamo.fi/Resource.phx/sivut/s...usamo/index.htx
Or maybe they should build a new one, the existing ones do seem a bit pricey:
http://kuluttaja.etuovi.com/crometapp/port...0D3AB0BCCC7EFF8

"only difference.."
Well there is one difference, the Swedes do not have to study Finnish, whereas the Finns have to study Swedish. It is not good to call Finland independent, when, in fact, it really is not. And Finnish journalists are not allowed to write anything negative about the matter, either (whereas they even copy the stereotypes the swedes made up of finns, same ones they were called by others, they changed to point at finns), have you ever seen something like this on a finnish newspaper "syntyper?isest? suomalaisuudestaan huolimatta opi
maan 90% valtakielt? edes v?ltt?v?sti, ei kannata valjastaa
koko kansaa heid?n palvelemistaan silm?ll? pit?en."
(despite being born in finland, cannot learn the finnish even a little bit, it is not worth making the rest of the nation serve them - (saying about the fact that those 4 percent of nationals who speak swedish in finland, do not often even learn good finnish- but all the rest must study swedish so they can be served in their language; now, that would be different if swedish was a world language, but it is as insignificant as finnish, totally useless outside the country))

I guess the invitation to the indepencence day party is the greatest honor a Finn could get. There haven't been any foreigners there (not counting the ambassadors).

If Conan could make it, it would be historical. No, I didn't say hysterical. Oh my God!

"I guess the invitation to the indepencence day party is the greatest honor a Finn could get. There haven't been any foreigners there (not counting the ambassadors)."

It is not that big a honor; the sports stars do not always find the time to go there and all the politicians automatically are invited, no matter what they're like.

Also the day is not celebrated by the finnish-speaking multitude, like in several other countries' their multitudes do, but by the elite (and often by even the non-elite part of the swedish-speaking people, interestingly). The multitude sits at home watching the elite who are shown on tv, dancing in the party.

http://bernie.house.gov/economy/today.asp
Find the right statistics and you can imply almost anything, as this one shows: (in reality the average american has maybe 3-4 times more money than the average finn: they have cheaper prices and higher pay, of the gdp, in finland, a lot less goes into private spending than in the us)

"The U.S. ranks below six other countries in annual income per person ? Norway ($39,806); Switzerland ($38,425); Denmark ($33,367); Sweden (32,125); Finland ($31,737); and Japan (31,624). In the U.S., annual income per person is $28,553."

I doubt there is any rule the president could not invite whoever she wished, as she decides who comes or not.

The party to take part on (as a giver, not a taker) independence day would be the veikko hursti (nowadays his son's) independence day party for the poor, probably meant to show the rich the poor should be taken care of (or he only figured, less suicides, when he shows, he cares, maybe some of the poor will not figure, he is, in fact, the only one who is not a selfish b--tard here)
http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/art...e/1101979525092

http://www.turunsanomat.fi/verkkolehti/?ts...0338,1:0:0:0:0:
(in finnish, about it continuing)

"they`re possible dangerous freaks too, and you?d be better to avoid this sucky country"

You do have an unhealthy attitude. I would like to warn anyone considering Finland too, it is cold and relatively expensive and some people are - well, like you, unsociable - but he is not a private person who books a ticket and goes without thinking but works for a tv-channel which is capable of finding out the facts before going somewhere. And he already visited Canada. It is cold too so he knows where he is going to if he goes to Finland. Also Max can tell how Finland is like.
About the towns in Finland:
As Hitler lost the war and autobahns were only made in germany, there is only motorways to tampere, turku and lahti. Elsewhere the roads are not good, small roads, takes a long time to drive. There is good flight connections to Oulu. Not elsewhere. Railway connections work well to Turku and Tampere (biggest towns outside capital), not elsewhere. So without a charter flight, best to stay in Helsinki as otherwise takes time to get anywhere.

Most sociable people are found in eastern finland, where there is no good connections to.

<quote>The man has a point.

It would delight me to have Conan make an episode in Finland, except for the fact that the people here would ruin it. If he'd actually make the mistake of doing a show here, he'd no doubt be shown around by the same idiots who always ruin these things. Like when Lonely Planet guys did their episode of Finland, they toured the guy into the most boring places imaginable. No, that's not what anyone wants to do. I hate it when these people with their low national self esteem try to boost our national image with quaint idiotic activities nobody really cares about. I hate the national embarassment I have to feel for my low-witted compatriots. Especially since they're never able to give an accurate image of what the country is really all about. Bah, low self-esteem causes them to try to give people that quaint image of Finland to others, so that people they think are better than them can smile at us condescendingly. Woe is me and the rest of us with a bit of sense who have to suffer their endless embarassing escapades. The whole problem is that there's so much to really be proud about and the place is incredibly cool, really, but Conan will never see the good stuff over here unless he has a good guide. And I've yet to see someone who can actually tour someone in Finland without reverting to the same, old, tired crap. No, I'd rather see him not come at all than have them portray Finland in the way they always do. Quaint is something I really don't want to be seen as, especially since it has nothing to do with this country. But the idiots here always manage to make us look a little backwards and silly. Oh no, that's not something I, for one, wish to see again. So I hope Conan either stays away or gets shown around by someone who actually knows what he/she is doing. And once again, they're all the same here, finding someone with a bit of sense is highly unlikely, so in the end it's best to not come at all. Sorry, but that's the way it is. The other thread where they're begging Conan to come to Finland is proof enough. These things arouse the low self-esteem I've been talking about in everybody, it's completely impossible to get a good view of Finland like this.

Conan: stay away, for your sake and mine. </quote>

This is, so far, the only sensible comment so far in here! This is exactly what happens whenever anyone does a show about Finland. I'm 110% sure that if Conan ever came here, it would be an embarassment to him as well as all of us living in Finland.

As for the rest of you, do you really think you're gonna convince anyone that Finland's great/sucks by giving them random statistics and facts about Finland? Wow you guys just don't have any brain do you?

I'll say this too: Conan, stay as far away from Finland as you can!!

Conan seems to agree.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/kotimaa....a.htm#id1089621
"FST:n S?gbom jututti O'Brienia New Yorkissa omaan Bettina S -keskusteluohjelmaansa. O'Brien-haastattelu l?het??n 19. joulukuuta.
"
http://www.jippii.fi/jsp/forum/thread.jsp?...itiikka&t=41050

(links in finnish)

"Sure, all the small nations hate the bigger neighbor. But the Swedish-hate in Finland really is something else. "

And the Swedes with their racialbiological programs just love the Finns?

Finland is about the same as South Africa was before it was freed, with different schools and opportunities for the different races. Finns have a lot less places in higher education than the Swedes. Swedes go to high school and university, Finns to trade schools. Traditionally the Swedes have said that is because the Finns are stupid.

Also in Finland, if you do not learn enough Swedish, like happened to my brother, in school, you do not get through the grade. Lots of Finns every year end school before graduating 9th grade, only because they are not good in languages. Probably more end school because they are not good in Swedish than there are Swedes (in their own schools.)

There are places in Finland, where you cannot speak Finnish at all. For example some of the Swedes' schools forbid the speaking of Finnish.

If a Finnish family does not have a lot of money and goes ask the social office for some, they tell to go away, if they lose their home because of that, children will be taken away by the state. Compare that with the corporate welfare recently given to Viking Line, ferry company owned by the Ahvenanmaa Swedes, millions so that the company which is unable to make enough money by selling tax-free alcohol, would not get into trouble. To Ahvenanmaa, it is easier to move for other foreigners than Finns, despite it being part of Finland - they also bought somehow the right to sell duty-free alcohol despite being in the European Union.

Parts of towns where there are Finland-Swedes are off-limits to Finns, especially the pubs.

I totally agree that if you NBC guys and girls are going to make a fun show in Finland, don't waste your time doing the obvious sight seeing tour. You shouldn't visit Finland at Easter time because we have all sorts of fun traditional food like 'm?mmi' (all you non-finns just try google the picture of it , it's not mud or the other stuff, and if you can't get the dots on the 'a's don't worry you can probably copy-paste the word). The point of this is, it's been done, and a lot of other stuff too.
I think the reason we like Conan so much is that his show has brought awareness of our small country to the big world, and as a small nation most of us are proud to be famous of something, even if it's a stereotyped image. The truth is that now a bunch of Americans and other nationalities that might have never otherwise heard of Finland now know that we exist, and whether or not it's a good thing depends on the point of view. I also think that most Americans probably couldn't care less about Finland and that's all right, too. Honestly, I don't think many Finns mind it too much.
The buzz has aparently awaken people who have extreme political views about our own country and see it as a good place to say their opinion. The truth is, there isn't nearly as much debate about compulsory Swedish in the schools (or the supposed finns-hate-russians-and-swedes or social issues or whether or not Tarja is a communist in disquise etc.) as you might think looking at the posts here. Naturally, these opinions exist, but they are not mainstream ideas and the only thing important is that we take action on the social issues here in our country instead of taking the debate to some forum outside Finland.
Gosh, I had a lot of things to say about a lot of things.
All you Americans who are interested in Finland: we are not nearly as crazy as it seems.
All you angry/worried/whatever Finns here: don't worry so much about the image of our country, and try to keep your political opinions inside the borders where it actually matters!
Oh and Mr O'Brien, if you do decide to visit Finland, we warmly welcome you to see the place with your own eyes, Just don't let them take you to a sight seeing tour. An if you're here near Easter, try m?mmi, it's really quite good...
As we say in Finland: Hyv?? jatkoa kaikille!

These are serious matter, but since they are talked about here (not so much in Finnish press or TV, for example.)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dieteman/dieteman33.html
"The Irish Times of August 30, 1997, meanwhile, reports that "90 per cent of [those sterilizied] were women," and that "the practice, which predated and outlived Nazi Germany, started as an attempt to weed out perceived genetic weaknesses, mental or physical defectsand ended as a method of social control.""

"Probably more end school because they are not good in Swedish than there are Swedes (in their own schools.)"

Well, then they will be taken by the commie state to the work centers where they work for free. (They get a small unemployment benefit which goes to food and housing, not much left after that - it is about 750 euros total but prices are quite high in Finland.)
The more clever ones turn to crime instead. Jails are better places than the work centers. (Really, may sound strange for americans, one can study in them, Spanish, university studies, etc., though in a recent study, the Finnish jails were much worse than other european jails, with a lot more violence, with buckets in cells instead of toilets and Finns had double the terms than other nordics - but they are better than the work centers.)

"And the Swedes with their racialbiological programs just love the Finns?"

Not only Finns. They are like that.

See: (About racial biology in Finland)
Markku Mattila: Kansamme parhaaksi. Rotuhygienia Suomessa vuoden 1935 sterilointilakiin
saakka. Bibliotheca historica 44. ISSN 1238-3503
http://www.lib.helsinki.fi/elektra/mattila.html
Finns in Finland, indeed a lesser race.
(link from:
http://www.vaahtokylpy.net/keskustelut/sea...pid=70558&gid=3
)

In Sweden:
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/modul...splaystory.html


"It is hardly surprising that National Socialism in Germany would embrace the concept of eugenics. ""the Germans called eugenics, had been established at the University of Munich as early as 1923, the year after Sweden created the State Institute for Racial Biology in Uppsala. "
http://www.susanohanian.org/show_commentar...ies.html?id=280

Swedes were first with nazism. Munich came second. Nazism ended in Germany. It reigns in Nordic countries. They are what Europe would have been like had Germany won the war.
http://www.survivalarts.com/archives/000974.html
"Ah, yes, the benevolent Swedish model of democratic socialism. Here's an interesting piece, "Sweden and the Myth of Benevolent Socialism"; an excerpt from a Washington Post article of 1997 is included in the piece: From 1934 to 1974, 62,000 Swedes were sterilized as part of a national program grounded in the science of racial biology and carried out by"

Swedes found the Sami, the Gypsies and Finns to be lesser race. Luckily the Germans did not believe the Finns to be a race lesser enough to be wiped out the face of the earth.

Unlike in neighboring nordic countries, there is no far-right party in Finland.

Swedes have nothing against the Finns. I've never heard about any racialbiological problems. You made it up.

Finns have over 96 % of the "higher education places". Finns and Swedes are not different "races". Swedes do not say Finns are stupid.

If you're stupid, you don't pass Swedish at school. Such an easy language.

I've never heard about places in where you can't speak Finnish. No schools or pubs.

"Talvi" has an agenda and it is the spread out lies and propaganda about the Swedish-speaking Finnish people. In here he calls himself "Kielisoturi" (The Language Warrior) or Arcticus. He's been at it in the BBC's political message board, too.

He's really a lunatic.

hah, eih?n t??ll? ole kuin suomalaisia!

Typical of the FInland-Swedes is to call FInns violent etc. so they have a reason to kick some Finnish butt. And worse.

Such happens elsewhere too when people want to start a war but have no reason to start with. Some are violent in birth. Hitler's party called jews everything possible etc. Swedes were so before Hitler and after Hitler.

"Southern Finland is not so different from, lets say New Yorks,"

As I have not been there, I would not know. But am under the impression NY is lots to the south and thus warmer.

Newspapers told Conan were he to come to FInland would come during spring and would like to ski.
Nothing wrong with that but I would like to tell that the Alps have good slopes. THere I been skiing couple of times. Much longer than in Finland and it is a lot cheaper too. (Depends on country as alps are in more than one country. Been to two both cheaper than Finland)

What?!? Where in finland can you find any pub where finnish speaking people arent allowed??? Thats just [censored]! And theres no school in finland either where you arent allowed to speak finnish!

If Conan hasn't gotten the picture by now, he's never gonna get it.

Conan, take Max and Joel with you when you come to Finland. I can take those funny pictures of you.

But no homosexual jokes. There are no homosexuals in Finland.

Jonttu, did you write this:
h?meest? kirjoitti 12:45
vastaa

Se on aivan totta, ett? Adolf Hitler oli monin verroin inhimillisempi ihminen kuin kukaan ruotsalainen on koskaan ollutkaan.

Translation:
"It is absolutely true, Adolf Hitler was many times more human than any Swede ever was."

It's language war in Finland, folks. On the other side, three or four such bigots and the rest of the Finnish people on the other side.

There is no racialbiology ?
You never heard of it ?


In Austria, you would be prosecuted for saying that.

The Germans ended their programs a long ago. The Swedes are different. Adolf Hitler idolized the Swedes and look what happened to him - alas, the same can well happen to the Finns, who do the same.
Alas, Finland is no Austria.
Have not been to BBC message board, did not know one existed, but I will look if you are lying there too.

It is the Finland-Swedes who say Finns are different race, not Finns. The official state propaganda gives Finns a very favorable, yet untrue picture of the Swedes. Swedes are depicted as more civilized, better in every way.

"I've never heard about any racialbiological problems."

-
"The Nazis' eugenics program was actually a pale shadow of that of other European
countries, such as Sweden"

Simple Google search would do. "racial biology sweden" or "eugenics sweden"

In Finnish schools the teaching does not allow anything negative about our masters, the Swedes.
There are no such restrictions in other countries so elsewhere the curriculums should include how the Swedish racial biology predated the Germans ones. Saying nazism came from Germany and demonizing Germans of the time is simply false.

http://www.daa.org.uk/e_tribune%5Ce_1999_05.htm

"The number of people involved is substantial - Bates notes that 400,000 Germans were sterilised by the Nazis because their lives were 'not worth living'; a further 63,000 Swedes [90% of whom were women], 40,000 Norwegians, 6,000 Danes and 7,700 North Carolina [USA] citizens suffered a similar fate."

http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news123.html

"The movement had adherents in many countries, but "Sweden was the first in the world to grant this pseudoscience official recognition," Dagens Nyheter wrote in describing how Sweden established an Institute of Racial Biology in 1921."

"extreme views"

In reality those are the mainstream views. The local media does not talk about them as they are taboo.

"not much debate"

It is not allowed.

hey!

I am from Sweden and I gotta say I?m surprised of your hate of swedes.
And I really don?t get it. The swedish speaking people in Finland are not swedes! Stop calling them that.
They don?t have anything to do with us.

yeah, your history is [censored] up buy what some stupid swedish kings did.
But come on! Don?t live in your past.
and stop being so racist and nationalistic.

I have nothing against Finland.
Thank you.

Hey, yourself, would you please address your posts to the appropriate person -- I know nothing about Swedes except Ingrid and Ingmar and I always liked them -- I never said anything against the Swedes or the Finns and I don't go to the races. Are you Egyptian?

"The swedish speaking people in Finland are not swedes! Stop calling them that.
They don?t have anything to do with us."

Actually, the Swedish King took over Finland a long ago and it still continues. Finland is not a very independent country.
Mostly to the shorelines moved Swedes, already during the time the Viking raided Europe. Then some Swedes were given land by the king. They did not want to move to Finland and hated it and told everyone about they hated it and the hate went on in the families and they still hate it.
The money from the land, stolen from the Finns and where Finns had to work for the landowners, and the taxes they were given, and the violent means of keeping the power and the money, meant they got rich + they could decide what is said in public and what is not, so still in Finland the Swedes are considered everything positive, Finns everything negative.
All Finns have to study the language of civilization (that would be Swedish, not French, not Italian, not Chinese) and most hate it as it is not needed anywhere in Finland. Without the Swedish government acting for the language, that would not happen as there are only about 4% of population who are Swedes in Finland.

"yeah, your history is [censored] up buy what some stupid swedish kings did.
But come on! Don?t live in your past.
and stop being so racist and nationalistic."

You really Swedish or one of those Finland-Swedes ?
What if you had to learn, say Albanian in school, would you like that ?
What if the Albanian were all given university places and all the Swedes went to trade school, ending up mostly out of work, would you like that ? (In Finland, most of the Swedes go to university and end up in top places when working, whereas most Finns go to trade school, most of the boys do not even attend high school.)

"Swedish police have launched an investigation into whether former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke has committed "incitement to hatred against a minority group" in Sweden."
"But that decision has been overturned by the Director of Public Prosecutions in Malm?, Sven-Erik Alhem, and the police inquiry has restarted, reported Sydsvenskan.

Alhem came to his decision after interviewing P?r Brunmark, the man who initially reported the former Ku Klux Klan leader to the police and who has tracked his work in Sweden for several years."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2398...8&date=20051101
The Klan leader is investigated in Sweden for hate against minority groups.
Does that happen to his Swedish counterpart, Ida Asplund ?
( I can tell, personally I have nothing against the Klan leader as he has nothing against the Finns and could not care less if he decided to visit Finland, which he has not visited. )

http://www.ifisk.net/portratt/ida.htm

" Ume?bon Ida Asplund har valts
till ny ordf?rande f?r f?reningen Finlandssvensk samling."

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&q=ida+as...&btnG=Hae&meta=

It is ok in Sweden to incite hatred against the Finns, not against the Jews (officially at least.) - despite Swedish laws saying such hatred is against the law, which Ida Asplund probably is aware of, being a law student.

The swedish speaking people in Finland are not swedes! Stop calling them that.
-
They call themselves that. See ?
http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&q=svensk...=cr%3DcountryFI
Google search from Finnish pages with the word "svensk", Swedish.
For example:
?bo Akademi
Finlands svenska universitet, med 6900 studerande i ?bo, Vasa och Jakobstad.
www.abo.fi
- That is where the leaders of the Finnish society often come from (rest come from the Swedish universities.)

Of course most of the comments come from Finns. Nobody else gives a [censored]. Especially when most of the messages are so incredibly stupid.
Some of you had a point some of you didn't but this has been an offtopic converastion for a long time.

Some of the most irrelevant comments probably come from teens who didn't think much before they posted their opinions and wide knowledge of how Finns feel about Swedes and vice versa. Of course not everyone thinks like couple of these bozos. You should know better and realize that here are only the opinions of a few Finns.

Althought Conan is a mega-star and well-known throught this planet it's not like every Finn is talking about the possible arrival of Conan and there probably won't be riots on the streets of Helsinki if he doesn't show up. Late night with COB is a cable talk-show that is shown at 11 pm mo-fri. It does quite well but I don't want every American to think that Finland is so boring that a mention of our country in an American talk-show gets everybody talking for decades.

I for one believe that Conan and his crew are able to make a great Finland related show/segment.

Not taboo. They only want to stay employed.

What do you call them, then?

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Some of the most irrelevant comments probably come from teens who didn't think much before "

Now, why not tell the truth instead of adult governmental propaganda which tells nothing ?


"Finland is so boring that a mention of our country in an American talk-show gets everybody talking for decades"

Yes it is.
Nobody is talking about the local talk-shows. Yesterday one had the hosts dressed as women because they had some american guest who sang and dressed as female, the kind of show that one cannot watch sober, unlike Conan -they are trying but maybe too hard, school kids have better jokes than most of the local talk shows.

"It does quite well but I don't want every American "

Why do you think every american watches Conan ? It seems there it is on even later and americans tend to go to work, also they have lots more channels on tv and more have computers at home than here. The Finnish economy cannot create real jobs because of too much government involvement and wasted tax money (in for example the ruler language, social programs that force those who have no jobs work for no money, making the keepers of the workcamps rich, agriculture in weather not suited to it, etc.) so lots of Finns can watch the show at eleven, in those homes that can receive the channel.

"Especially when most of the messages are so incredibly stupid."

And what should not be allowed to say ?

"them" ?

*Oooh, I think that irish men are in no way inferior to you finns in view of drinking ... *

The Swedes have taught the Finns that all Finns are miserable violent drunks. If that is the case is not the point. Finns have no culture of hembr?nnt which is homemade alcohol as the Swedes have so the amount of drinking in statistical books is the real amount of drinking in Finland: a little less than the average European amounts - yet more than in America where there probably is too long road to nearest place, with the houses being far apart and people having to drive everywhere. I have not been there so would not know. The Irish do not call Finns drunks so Finns like to visit Ireland, or maybe some other reason, I would not know, but it is not known for its beaches or for its skiing so what is left ? I have not been there but it is quite popular with people I know.

In drinking, down a bottle of whiskey, down a bottle of vodka a different night. Try which one gives a hangover. Vodka drinkers are ******* compared to the whiskeydrinkers.

*Unlike in neighboring nordic countries, there is no far-right party in Finland.*

But there is the only apartheid-party in Europe, the SFP.
www.sfp.fi "the svenska folkparty" and it is in power and has more influence in politics than any other party despite it is supported only by 4 or so percent of the population.

*It's language war in Finland, folks. On the other side, three or four such bigots*

Conan could go ask school children what they think of Sweden and forced Swedish in schools ?

3-4 ?
You do not seem to even be able to remember what you have written earlier in this same thread "if you go to a krog..."

But your thinking is as consistent as any other Swedes' so it does not matter for you, I guess.

They are Finnish citizens.
Finland is a sovereign state.
Too bad you have too learn swedish if you don?t want to, but don?t drag Sweden into this.