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Megan_822
ok so in todays episode why is gwen so concerned all of the sudden that ethan is going to die, when shes the one that is so adiment on takin him off life support and killing him why does she suddenly care that ethan is going to die she already pulled the plug on him once
Taby
It's not that he is going to die it's that T will get to spend the last "living" minutes with him and not her.
Megan_822
yea but all she said was ethans going to die, and yea she cared about t being with him and not her but she seemed more concerned about him dieing a different way then her pulling the plug on him she doesnt care about ethan she doesnt want theresa to have him thats what shes worried about
Taby
yup.

or maybe she knows that he might NOT die and will be proved there was a chance....do you think she wants him dead because she is scared T might win.
Megan_822
yes exactly....if theresa keeps him alive im sure gwen knows that theresa will have a chance with ethan and she doesnt want to risk losing ethan to theresa she would much rather see him dead then with her
redfan
Did anyone here Gwen say this.
Quote{ This whole fiasco ends only one way -- I take ethan off the respirator and he dies. }unquote

She only cares because she wants to be the one with him when and if he dies.She doesn't want anyone around him.If I remember in yesterday's epi. she said she wanted to be alone with him when she pulled the plug for the final time.
Taby
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Did anyone here Gwen say this.
Quote{ This whole fiasco ends only one way -- I take ethan off the respirator and he dies. }unquote

She only cares because she wants to be the one with him when and if he dies.She doesn't want anyone around him.If I remember in yesterday's epi. she said she wanted to be alone with him when she pulled the plug for the final time.
 


so she can apologize for pulling the plug on him for her gain
Megan_822
exactly the first time she pulled the plug she didnt care that his family and friends were there
Taby
uh yes but if she does it alone all the attention can be on her
Megan_822
yea i know i was agreeing with you
Taby
yah I know I was just stating the obvious for the Gwen fans
love1red
I think once again the writers got confused and did the wrong episode first. Now they're trying to fix it by showing how Gwen should have acted.
lora4
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I think once again the writers got confused and did the wrong episode first. Now they're trying to fix it by showing how Gwen should have acted.  


They probably read on here everyones reations and decided they better do something.
dolphinblue
ROFL did you all hear on todays show when she found out what Theresa had done she said "I may never get to see my husband ALIVE again" uh... you were about to PULL THE PLUG. I do not think you would have ever gotten a chance to see him ALIVE again anyway!!
brunettefan
I thought it was sort of hypocritical. "Theresa doesn't have any medical knowledge, she doesn't know how to take care of Ethan and keep him alive..." Well, Gwennypoo, obviously keeping Ethan alive is not your plan.
ethan_teresaFAN
She's just weak and can't make up her mind. Like you all said first she wants her family there and then she doesn't. I was pissed off too when she started going on about how T would kill E. E would have been dead already if not for T! And how many times does she need to say goodbye? i'm very sure there's nothing more she would have thought of to say between her first goodbyes, the one right before she plugged the plug and the the one she intended to say after the mass. shiche that woman!!!
love1red
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I thought it was sort of hypocritical.  "Theresa doesn't have any medical knowledge, she doesn't know how to take care of Ethan and keep him alive..."  Well, Gwennypoo, obviously keeping Ethan alive is not your plan.  


Me too! When she said she wanted Ethan back cause T didn't know how to treat a coma patient and then said she wanted him back so she could pull the plug before T killed him! I think my jaw hit the floor. To bad I didn't tape it, it was a purely passions moment. (Maybe the timing is wrong or the words but I'm sure Gwen said something VERY close to this)
roodybel
I was also wondering how many times she needed to say goodbye. I guess she needs to get Ethan back before Theresa kills him so that SHE can kill him. Does that make sense?
Megan_822
she just doesnt want to take any chances that ethan may come out of the coma and be with theresa and if hes going to die then she wants to be the one to do it becuase he is her husband and she thinks that she needs to be the one to pull the plug on him(which she did once already) and not theresa
kassiea
I think deep down, Gwen knows Theresa is right and I've said it before, Gwen may not be doing it consciously, but she is just doing the opposite of what Theresa wants because it's Theresa. It would hurt her pride too much to admit that Theresa might be right on something. It's the same reason she wouldn't let Theresa give him CPR after the poisoning. Had it been anyone else, she probably would have let them and Ethan probably wouldn't be in this coma at all...
Megan_822
oh im sure shes doin it consciously she hates theresa and will do anything to keep her away from ethan, and if that means killing him then thats what she will try to do
kassiea
I think that sometimes, but there are other times when I see a little bit of human consciounse creep out of her and then I have to give her the benefit of the doubt until she returns to being her usual slimy self...I still think her firt prayer for there to be something showing Ethan would be okay and her couple of tears were for show because his family was there....
islandchic
REMEMBER WHEN SHE SAID, "THE SAD THING IS THAT I WOULD RATHER LOSE YOU TO DEATH THAN TO THERESA"???
CanadianFan21
Okay, I hope I don't get attacked for this, or make anyone angry (especially since I didn't see the episode today), but I think that the reason that Gwen is getting so upset is that she feels that as Ethan's wife she should be the one to pull the plug on Ethan, not have him die because Theresa took him away. I'm a Theresa fan, but I really don't think that Gwen is pulling the plug on Ethan because she doesn't want Ethan to be with Theresa, I really think that she's doing it because she feels that she has to respect Ethan's wishes. Also, in regards to the comment that she made "I'll never see Ethan alive again", I imagine that she means that she won't ever get to see him before he dies. I understand where you are all coming from when you say that she's already said good-bye to him many times and that she was planning to pull the plug on Ethan anyway, but if it were my husband, I would want to be with him while he died, and (as selfish as it may sound) I'd want to know that he knew that I cared enough about him to do what he asked me to do. I would want to be there with him while he took his last breaths so I could tell him how much I love him and to say good-bye one last time. I know that Ethan loves Theresa more, but he is Gwen's husband and she has every right to be with him when he dies. In regards to the comment that she made about how she'd rather lose Ethan to death then to Theresa, yeah that was pretty low, but I really don't think that she's pulling the plug because of Theresa. Of course all of this is just my opinion......
veryfine_1
i agree with ur opinion, our family had a similar situation a while ago and we had to pull the plug, I sat with my bro during his last breath and it was hard, if i didnt have that last moment with him, it would have killed me to, i understand why Gwen wants to be there with him during his last days, what family doesnt want to be there during a loved ones last days and breaths. Its even harder when ur the person named as the proxy,, i know a little bit more about this than i care to share, but i know EXACTLY how it feels to be there and how important it is to be there during those last moments, Theresa is selfishly taking this away from his parents siblings and wife, she should be ashamed!
ethan_teresaFAN
I'm sorry about that. That explains why you've been really adament about this topic. The only thing though is that it's fake, not reality. The writers are doing this and in their world, T is the only person who can make E wake up. So she's got to do it. That's why I don't mind it.
In real life though, I'd understand G and be totally pissed off. But since it's fake, I think it's a brilliant idea what T is doing, cause it makes for good TV. Once again , I'm sorry about your brother.
meagjj
I thought the same thing yesterday when gwen said ethan is going to die because T doesn't know how to take care of him. i was like what do you care you where going to kill him anyways. but i know why. she can't stand the fact that T is going to be with him. and not her.
hvalene
I completley agree!
meagjj
Oh yes veryfine i'm sorry too that you had to go threw that with your brother.i had to with my grandpa. if this was real life i wouldn't agree either but i just look at it as a good storyline to keep everyone going, and it does.
meme4johnnell
You can tell Gwen doesn't care because all the time Ethan was in the hospital, all she did was sit by his bed and talk to him and then talk to her mother about T. But on todays episode, when T and Noah were at the cabin, T was taking good care of Ethan. She talked to him, rubbed his head, exercised his legs, and put covers on him. In the hospital he was just lying there. Nobody did those things that T did. I'm pretty sure his legs had fell asleep on him a thousand times.
veryfine_1
Thanks for the concerns, this happened for me almost a year ago, last around the holliday, and it just brings back some bad memorys, my bro and i were very close and i miss him terribly, i can never forget those last breaths and then nothing,, its hard, this is why i can see Gwens point and is why i cant watch untill this whole s/l is over, it touches pretty close to home for me,, but since it is fake, i do fell like this.... i dont understand why gwen is worried about him dying, i mean she has to pull the plug so hes not going to live anyways, like i posted above, my only explanation is that she wants to be there with him during his last moments and is afraids that theresa not having any medical knowledge will kill him in a way he didnt want, or mabye in pain, i guess her way of him dying is better to them than dying on the run with theresa
danielsmom
Well we all know that Ethan is going to recover....but I don't expect Gwen to fall down on her knees and thank Theresa or anything, but she will talk to herself like she always does and say something like when she said she hoped Theresa found a way to stop her...

Which begs me to ask the question why is she so mad....Theresa took the decsion out of her hands just the way she hoped she would. Or didn't she think Theresa would figure out how to?
veryfine_1
i really think gwen wanted an out, but she never expected it to come in the form of theresa kidnaping her husband
danielsmom
Well Theresa is a desperate woman, and desperate women do desperate things. This is by far NOT the most far-fetched plan Theresa has ever had...why are they so bloody shocked! I agree with Theresa, as long as Ethan isn't brain-dead, there is hope for his recovery...but come on.....THEY HAD TO SEE IT COMING!
veryfine_1
i would have seen it comming, and i wouldnt have left ehtan alone with an obsessed theresa roaming thhe streets, she is crazy and if u think about it i think this IS the most retarted rediculous plan she has ever done, i mean she kidnapped an ill patient from ICU with out any medical knowledge to help her, this is by far the stupidest thing she has ever done
danielsmom
Hey I have read about it in a book once, so apparently it isn't that far-fetched of a story!
veryfine_1
im sorry but if she had some type of medical knowledge MABIE it wouildnt be so far fetched, but this is very far fetched, you cant even make it out of the hospital nowadays without some sort of badge or ID or proof stating you are authorized to be taking the patient, also when someone is in ICU they are constantly under observation and being looked in on. and what type of hospital room has a secret door, this isnt the crane mansion,,, ya its deff far fetched
danielsmom
The guy in the book didn't have medical knowledge either...although the patient did but unless you read the book you won't have any idea how that worked, but the guy "kidnapped" the comatose woman the EXACT SAME WAY THERESA JUST DID!!!! Besides, Noah is helping her and he used to be an EMT. In case you want to read the book, (trust me, it really was important the guy kidnap her..you just have to read the book to know why) It's called "If only it were True" The woman in the coma becomes a ghost that only the guy can see and he falls for her, and then they find out that her mother is disconnecting her feeding tube and she begs him to kidnap her body because she doesn't want her body to di...anyways, you have to read it to fully understand it. But I digress, it happened the same way, except in the book, they did have forged documents that Theresa didn't have though.
veryfine_1
so was there a secret door in this hospital room as well? Also like i said u just dont walk out the hospital with patients with out some sorta proof of transfer, how do I know, because i work in a hospital, im in school to be an /surgical technician, i do extership at the hospital and things are just not like that in real life, i hate the way passions does NOTHING realisticly, this is why the s/l offend so many who have been there in real life. JER makes NO ATTEMP to make the show believable thus making a mockery of these real life situations, thus being the reason i dont watch anymore, its completly stupid what is going on in the show now, and im sure teh writer of the novel did such a better job and did his reasearch before writing the book, thus making the book believable and not making a joke of this real life painful situation
lovepampers
SHE JUST CARES CAUSE SHE DOESNT GET TO BE THE ONE TO KILL HIM.SHE KNOWS HE IS WITH HIS TRUE LOVE-- THERESA!
danielsmom
How real do want a soap opera with a resident Witch, zombies, talking dolls, and a closet door gateway to hell? I mean I don't think it's supposed to be at all realistic.
lindasue
Well Ladies, I get so tired of gwen, becky, and Ivy saying they are going to Kill T or get her arrested or what ever.. does anyone think she will be arrested for anything.... NO because she IS mrrs. allister crane... so No nothing is going to happen to her... and i agree with you about Gwen also why does she care so much now she was going to pull the plug on E and now she is afraid that T will kill him if she was that worried about him she should have taken care of him like T is now.. instead of trying to find ways to keep T away from him... If it was me and I professed to love some one that much .. I would have tried any thing to get hime to come around... if it was T or Little E, Baby Jane or what ever it took..Gwen has not even took the baby to see E.. that might have made a difference.. also has Gwen not thought about the fact that if E dies she will not get baby Jane.. Allister won't let her have the baby away from T and he wont let T go to jail either... any way that is what I think about this mess....
laineydoo
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How real do want a soap opera with a resident Witch, zombies, talking dolls, and a closet door gateway to hell? I mean I don't think it's supposed to be at all realistic.


That was flippin hilarious!!!
danielsmom
Yeah and did you hear Rebecca say to the cop "I am MRS JULIAN CRANE doesn't mean somthing in this town?"...I was all like...sure but not as much as Mrs. ALISTAIR Crane. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...I think that's what bugs her the most about Theresa marrying Alistair, she is now more powerful than her. Tee Hee....For that I have to love that hanious marraige s/l. At least it put Rebecca back in her place.
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