PressMan04
Apr 20 2006, 09:26 PM
Alright, Josh and Donna are a horrible couple.
First of all, Donna is more like Josh's sister. The one he never had. She stuck by him the entire time, had the friendly, younger sister back and forth with him. He protected her like an older brother would. He gave hell to all her boyfriends. She teased him about all his girlfriends. No matter what has happened they've always been able to count on each other, like siblings.
Now Josh and Amy. Perfect couple. It was great watching these two characters interact on so many different levels. It was great seeing them in the office togethor. Josh was like a frat boy playing tricks on a girl he liked. They're both passionate and dedicated. Donna is too wishy washy for Josh. Josh had to chase Amy, and it was an ongoing thing. Josh and Amy is how it should end up.
PressMan04
Apr 21 2006, 01:15 PM
Can I get an amen?
inmourning
Apr 22 2006, 01:40 PM
No amen from here. I find Amy the least interesting character on the show.
Donna and Josh have been in love since she showed up....they just didn't know it.
I for one was aghast when she disappeared for a few episodes...I thought sure she had been written out.
mac47
Apr 22 2006, 07:04 PM
I agree with you 100%. Anyway, Amy has always had her own agenda, although I've never been able to figure out what it was. Donna has been there for Josh through thick and thin. In "20 Hours in America", Bartlet makes the comment, "Thank God Donna's with them." (knowing that she would get them home). When shots were fired through the press room windows, Donna called the shrink in case Josh needed to talk to him. When Josh was shot in "...Two Gunmen", Donna was back and forth from the office, making sure he was kept up to date.
finch
Apr 23 2006, 04:15 PM
Amen - it's totally out of character for Josh. I loved WW, but putting these two together is an example of how the writing deteriorated, in my opinion.
QUlRK
Apr 23 2006, 05:29 PM
I'm with you here. I always thought of Josh and Donna as brother and sister characters. However, I couldn't help but jump out of my seat and scream in excitement for about ten minutes when Josh and Donna kissed. I think Amy and Josh had a much more playful cat and mouse dynamic. Josh with Donna... i don't know, of course they understand each other and love each other... we'll see how it plays out romantically.
bartlet4america
Apr 23 2006, 06:31 PM
I'm not sure yet if I like the Josh/Donna relationship, but I can say that I absolutely could not stand Amy. I just thought she was a boring character that was forced into the storylines every time she was on the screen.
marie1101
Apr 23 2006, 08:30 PM
I love Josh with Donna. They were always meant to be together. They just didn't know it. Now they do and I'm positive they will come back from their vacation announcing their relationship if not an engagement.
wwnut
Apr 23 2006, 08:38 PM
I agree. Josh and Donna belong together. It would be great if they came back announced their engagement and the series ended with their wedding.
mspan
Apr 23 2006, 09:39 PM
uh... where have you been? Josh and Donna's chemistry has been wonderful. I hated the beginning of season 7 because there was no Donna. I hate the fact that they are canceling my favorite show, but I am extremely happy they did provide some closure to this story line.
katyj
Apr 23 2006, 10:00 PM
I agree in that I am not quite sure what I feel about Josh and Donna. What really annoys me is how Donna suddenly became a genius. What happened to ditzy Donna? That is the Josh and Donna I liked. However, I think that Amy and Josh are soul mates. They connect on a much deeper level. I also think Amy makes Josh happier. However, I think Donna loves Josh more. I want the show to go back to the way it was seasons one through four.
GatsbyFan
Apr 24 2006, 01:01 AM
katyj: Um, I must have been watching a completely different show? Amy and Josh soulmates? Amy making Josh happier? I don't think so.
If you really watched Seasons 1-4 you would see the chemistry between Josh and Donna. I think the episode where its most obvious is Inuguration II. But there are numerous examples.
QUlRK
Apr 24 2006, 02:29 AM
k, this episode convinced me that Josh and Donna are just so unbearably awkward as a couple... i liked them so much better before. i just don't think i can take donna seriously anymore... i mean, come on! "who said anything about talking?" - could have had a more creative line. I donno, everytime they kiss it is just so awkward.
xumanz02
Apr 24 2006, 09:31 AM
Josh and Donna are more like brother and sister? Do you pay attention when you watch the show? Hello, they've been attracted to each other and destined to end up together for most of the series! Amy and Josh had a similar passion for politics but they never really did it for me, or obviously for most of the other viewers, who seem just as thrilled as I am to see Donna and Josh finally together. Thank God they're ending the series on a good note.
shadowecho
Apr 24 2006, 04:54 PM
I have to disagree with you, PressMan. I, personally, thought that Amy was too condescending and I think that a Josh and Donna relationship has been set up throughout the show. To showcase my point:
Season 1: "In Excelcius Deo" - Josh gives Donna the skiing book (I apologize for not having the name) and writes the touching note inside. See emotional reactions.
Season 2: Oh, so many! See "ITSOTG" and "17 People" specifically. "If you were in an accident, I wouldn't stop for red lights."
Season 3: I honestly haven't reviewed S3 much, as I don't own the DVD, but I do remember "War Crimes" having some moments.
S4: See "Commencement" for Amy and Donna's conversation about Josh. It certainly reveals a lot.
S5 & 6: Gaza, my dear friend. Gaza.
I think Josh and Donna's attraction has been there throughout the series. I really was annoyed by Amy, on the contrary, and was glad to see her go.
efin88
Apr 24 2006, 05:16 PM
The awkwardness between Josh and Donna is perfect.... these comments prove it . They have been totally comfortable for 6 seasons, now they come off like hesitant teenagers...pretty good acting I'd say.. in real life there would be the same kind of tense energy most times at the beginning, been there and done that.
Plus, Josh is a snob, and Donna is a college dropout... She was his assistant, and he discounted her smarts....He wouldn't even give her a jb on the campaign...But after seeing her work on the race, he saw her jamming, now she is legitimate in his eyes...ANd she is emboldened too, ten times more confident due to jon offer, etc...
And lastly, the scene in last episode where she tells him he has four weeks...Was the smoldering vixen side we never got to see, because mostly she had trouble dating...
Wow....new to this message board thing, this is just a tv show, right?
emelu
Apr 24 2006, 08:54 PM
Come on. Josh and Donna has been leading up for such a long time. This will go down in history with other love affairs that took a long time to come to pass. Sam and Diane (cheers) Tony and Angela ( Who's the boss) Ross and Racheal (friends)Jonie and Chachi (happy days) boy am I old . I digress. Yes Amy is probabbly Josh's intellectual equal but Josh and Donna are defenitly soul mates. Any way Amy is busy selling pot on showtime.
Speaking of showtime I think a good move for WW would be a move to cable where the season would not be interupted by re-runs or a mid season hiatus like WW did this year. show like Weeds , The Barbershop , and the Shield to name a few stay fresh because all 15-20 episodes are shown back to back. Also if the show needs more time for the writting to get better the show could be delayed like the sopranos.
oh well i'll keep writing any one who will listen until WW is no more for good.
prc1122
Apr 24 2006, 09:26 PM
I would have to disagree. Josh and Donna make a great couple. Finally after years of promise and understory, the writers have fulfill their promise!! Keep it going.
By the way, Josh did have a sister. She died in a house fire.
thejackal
Apr 26 2006, 08:52 PM
I despise Amy. She doesn't deserve to be with ANY of the West Wing characters - not even Hoynes - HA!. Everything she says has this disdainful tone, and that gets REALLY old after...say...the first two times she does it. And can she look ANYONE in the eye? You can tell she's one of those people who looks above you when she talks. Go play with your balloon animals, Amy Garden Salad.
I'm not a big fan of Josh and Donna either. I feel like the writers just threw it in at the end of the series, knowing that fans would be ticked if their relationship never developed. Don't get me wrong...I really like both Josh and Donna. But I like them as they're separate characters, playfully flirting with each other for the relationship that they both know will never happen.
agangel
Apr 26 2006, 09:29 PM
Josh and Amy were not a good couple. The reason Donna is a good match for him now, Josh finally let go of the 'assistant' Donna and she has proven herself - that she can run with the big dogs- right beside Josh! He didnt realize his feelings for her until her accident.
I think they will elope while they are gone on vacation together!
agangel
Apr 26 2006, 09:32 PM
Too bad we had to wait this long to see this side of Donna! I like this new chic she has turned into. And I loved the look on Josh's face after she gave him that time frame and then walked out... Go Donna!!
nyteowl4ever
Apr 26 2006, 09:53 PM
I liked Amy, I liked Joey Lucas . I just was always hoping for Donna and josh to get together.Donna was only supposed to be in the very first show.In that scene you can tell her character cares ALOT about Josh. I've always wondered if Janels performance in that scene got her the job by playing it that way.And how different would the show be without her?
mousiemom
Apr 27 2006, 10:12 PM
While I'm glad that Josh and Donna are together, I do wish they'd quit beating us over the head with it. I'd like them to spend the rest of the season on the other stories, like Toby and his troubles, and where everyone is going from here.
PressMan04
Apr 28 2006, 05:37 AM
think way too many people have been way too hard on Amy. Amy is like the girl you've always had a crush on. She's funny and smart, quick witted and has a strong personality. She was the perfect fit for Josh. Nothing sent Josh into a tizzy (except for the poorly written recent Donna episode) than Amy. There have been a lot of great moments with Amy. You get to see a motivated woman, the equal of Josh in wit and talent, doing what she does best. And there's been a lot of personal moments too. Amy at Abbey's birthday party, and Amy's balloon animals. When Josh did the tropical set up in his apartment. My favorite Josh/Amy moment has got to be:
Josh: What's for dinner?
Amy: We're having stew.
Josh: Meat done?
Amy: Burnt,
Josh: Carrots?
Amy: Cute.
Josh: Peas?
Amy: Baby Peas.
Josh: How is it?
Amy: Well spiced, not unlike myself.
And then later as they get into talking about marriage incentives, Amy: You mean like subscriptions to bride and groom magazine?
I agree that in the latest episodes Amy has turned into a major jerk. But I think that's the same thing that turned the cute, ditzy Donnatella Moss into genius extraordianire.
030201dk
Apr 28 2006, 07:07 PM
Isn't it truly amazing how TV shows can capture us? and I too am new to this message board "thing."
I wish I knew how the fans could keep this on the air...NBC should use it's imagination (oh, wait, we're talking about NBC!) ok, use SOMETHING to renew this show.
raymac48
Apr 30 2006, 08:24 PM
I'm a new poster, 1st time. This is the first year I've watched WW...and I plan to go back and see all of it.
Can anyone tell me who plays Amy? I know I've seen her somewhere and it's driving me crazy!!
Thanks.
PressMan04
Apr 30 2006, 11:39 PM
The stunning Mary-Louise Parker.
snjdalton
Apr 30 2006, 11:45 PM
totally disagree. Amy's always been the convenient sexual option for Josh when he needs it (free hookeresque). They spent a many dialogues showing Josh's lack of a life and have many more episodes in which to delve into the work/life struggle that so many of the working class people struggle with every day. That's what WW does best, delves into the american condition. Amy isn't that, she's cheap sex with an agenda of her own.
pinkysplash
May 1 2006, 09:25 AM
Ever since the episode "17 people" I wanted to see Josh and donna together.It's the one where Donna tells Josh why she broke up with her boyfriend and came back to work for him. Josh tells her that if she was in a car accident he wouldn't stop for a beer and she says if he was in an accident she wouldn't stop for red lights. I have always loved that scene.
I like Amy too but Josh and her are too much alike. Amy also stars in a show called "Weed" or something like that.
CaptCaveman
May 1 2006, 11:47 AM
AMEN! Watching Josh and Donna kiss is like watching your cousins make out. Eww. He and Amy had fire, they had passion. I am a HUGE fan, and I love all the characters, but really, Josh and Donna together, kind of grosses me out.
mac47
May 2 2006, 10:20 AM
Hmmm, how can I phrase this.."waste product from male bovine". Any time he disagreed with her, Amy would have made Josh's life an "extended visit to the hot place". You may like her "fire", but Josh would have spent major bucks in divorce court. As it has been mentioned before, Amy is out for Amy... first, last, and always.
tkukman
May 2 2006, 01:26 PM
Sorry, I totally disagree with you. They are perfect for each other. They have loved each other for a long time!
wingfan
May 3 2006, 08:15 AM
Have to disagree. Amy and Josh were certainly a hot couple...but too much time together and they would have burned out. Also, remember Amy was prone to make some bad decisions. She got fired from working for the First Lady some time back. I think that Donna is the one for Josh. I didn't always think so...but the relationship has evolved so well over the years...that I can't imagine them not together...She brings out his best side. She knows him better and with her we have seen his more human side. Remember Gaza and the diary stuff a few seasons back? I certainly prefer seeing Josh and Donna happily ever after working in the Santos admin-she for the first lady and him for POTUS.
countrywomen
May 3 2006, 12:14 PM
All I can say is "ITS ABOUT TIME" I have been waiting for Donna & Josh to do it for ever!!!...lol
I am so stoked to see what's going on with CJ and Danny.
WestWingAbbey
May 3 2006, 11:57 PM
I have never looked at Josh and Donna's relationship as a brother/sister type. Ever since the first show, I can remember thinking "c'mon Josh...see the signs". They were meant to be together and I think the writers know this or they wouldn't be together now. And regardless of Donna seeming ditsy early on, she always had everything in HIS world under control.
As for Amy, she was just a bump in the road on the way to Josh and Donnaville..lol Don't get me wrong, I love Mary Louise especially in Weeds, she is more normal in that than anything else I have ever seen her in. But on WW, she was all about her job and her opinion. I really don't like Amy.
jerjulmey
May 4 2006, 02:30 PM
I really think that Amy and Josh are too hot for an enduring relationship. Like two comets. The episode, "We Killed Yamamoto," I think it was. When she tells Josh, "We should be able to talk about this," as they were having a huge battle with each other regarding the "Marriage Incentives" listed above. Yeah, Amy, you are right. You should be able to talk about it but both of you care way too much for the rationality of a relationship like you and Josh were pursuing. Life does not work that way.
Donna and Josh do not have that problem. Donna is only passionate about one thing...Josh. And always has been!
jimpamJAM
May 28 2006, 01:38 AM
I totally agree with the original poster! yall josh/amy fans should look at this:
http://www.learnandteachonline.com/node/407#commentThey totally get that it's just Donna worshipping Josh and that Bradley Whitford had the most chemistry with Mary-Louise Parker!
brucewym
May 29 2006, 12:21 AM
Amy is really charming. Did she act in any other film or something?
Macki
May 29 2006, 01:27 AM
Mary-Louise Parker, who played Amy, has been in several movies and TV shows. See:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000571/
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