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AGT_Canada
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

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slbaker
QUOTE (AGT_Canada @ Jul 14 2006, 07:30 AM) *
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

AGT_Canada

I have to agree with you completely. I really wish there had been an age limit on the contest. Kids always win with the cute factor. I really do like Taylor and the Millers. The Millers are pretty accomplished in that they perform regularly, and I think he is amazing at what he does but not more so than some of the other acts. Taylor has a long way to go, but she has the potential to be a great singer - hopefully not just a yodeller. I don't think she would sell many CD's with a whole set of yodeling. Also, who are we fooling - we all know Bianca Ryan is going to make it through. I just don't feel they have the polish or maturity to deserve such a big prize. They should work on their craft and hone it. Some of these kids may grow up to do something completely different.

An injustice is being done to acts that can go out there and entertain right now. All That was incredible. They have such skill and talent, and it is obvious they have been dancing for years. I could watch them perform for hours. I also loved the ventriloquist - he is the best I have ever seen. He was funny and entertaining, and I could also watch him perform a full set. Credit should be given to the kids who are amazing but they have a ways to go and don't deserve such a prize - they need to put in some serious time and work before they get that kind of reward. Unfortunately we are all suckers for kids. I just choose to give my vote to more mature and accomplished acts. I'll be curious to see how the rest of the acts are paired up because there were really 4 or 5 strong ones in this bunch and it is a shame that All That and the ventriloquist didn't make it through. I was hoping for a little diversity in the finals. Who knows maybe we'll still get that.
jazzylady
QUOTE (AGT_Canada @ Jul 14 2006, 07:30 AM) *
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

AGT_Canada



I totally agree. I did some looking up on the internet and Taylor has been singing that same yodel song for the last 2 years at least. I thought it was weird that she would sing the same exact yodeling song 2 weeks in a row on AGT and sure enough that's the same thing she sang when she won the Yahoo $10,000 contest. I'm curious to see if she sings the same exact yodeling song for the finals. I bet she does. If so, that tells me that this child can only sing one song. I'm surprised that the judges didn't pick up on the fact that it was the same song 2 weeks in a row. "All That" definitely should have gone through before her because you are right, although she is a good yodeller, her singing isn't really good. "All That" you are "ALL THAT!"
ClogginChick
I agree with everyone. Taylor is a good yodeler, but her singing isn't quite there for me. It's even hard to understand/hear her when she sings some notes. The yodeling is excellent, but the singing needs work. That doesn't equal all-round package to me.

I think All That! has the whole package. They're amazing talent, performers and individuals. I'm proud of you All That!!
jyq807
Well, I guess the only credit she gets is being smart enough to just feed those stupid judges the same thing. I mean, look what happened to those that tried to change the things they do. I highly doubt if any other act did the same exact thing as before, they'd be so glowing over them. But, America is stupid when it comes to voting, so it's not really a surprise.
jazzylady
QUOTE (duckman7 @ Jul 14 2006, 09:47 AM) *
Taylor was voted to the Finals by the public because she can sing well both kinds of music... Country AND Western.



Yes, the kid can yodel her *** off, but a singer? No. PLEASE do a different song next time Taylor! Show us that you know more than that one song. Yes, she sang a couple of lines to Cowboy Sweetheart the 2nd time, but the yodeling WAS THE SAME EXACT NOTE FOR NOTE AS THE WEEK BEFORE.
normaliswear
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 14 2006, 10:09 AM) *
Yes, the kid can yodel her *** off, but a singer? No. PLEASE do a different song next time Taylor! Show us that you know more than that one song. Yes, she sang a couple of lines to Cowboy Sweetheart the 2nd time, but the yodeling WAS THE SAME EXACT NOTE FOR NOTE AS THE WEEK BEFORE.

Her audition and semifinals performances were very different and both amazing. Of course she sang the same song last night as the show ended as she did in the semifinals, it WASN'T PART OF THE COMPETITION. lol What is she going to rehearse and work her butt off on a song to throw it away on 20 seconds worth of end credits? Its not like she can just use one of the songs she knows but hasn't practiced with this band. What is she going to turn around and start asking "hey do you guys know this one?.... what about....?" until they find one they know. I'm sure she's working her butt off on perfecting the number of performances it will take to win. Do you think all that was practicing this week any numbers that wont be part of the show? Nobodies that dumb. Look I know some of you wanted all that, and I respect that they were very good, I'd take them over the Millers personaly, but taking shots at an 11 year old for not having a full set prepared for the 20 seconds of end credits should be benieth you.
jazzylady
QUOTE (normaliswear @ Jul 14 2006, 10:24 AM) *
Her audition and semifinals performances were very different and both amazing. Of course she sang the same song last night as the show ended as she did in the semifinals, it WASN'T PART OF THE COMPETITION. lol What is she going to rehearse and work her butt off on a song to throw it away on 20 seconds worth of end credits? Its not like she can just use one of the songs she knows but hasn't practiced with this band. What is she going to turn around and start asking "hey do you guys know this one?.... what about....?" until they find one they know. I'm sure she's working her butt off on perfecting the number of performances it will take to win. Do you think all that was practicing this week any numbers that wont be part of the show? Nobodies that dumb. Look I know some of you wanted all that, and I respect that they were very good, I'd take them over the Millers personaly, but taking shots at an 11 year old for not having a full set prepared for the 20 seconds of end credits should be benieth you.



NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 20 SECONDS LAST NIGHT!! I'm talking about the 2 weeks in a row for competition. Note for note. The only difference was on Wednesday night this week (as compared to Wednesday night last week) she added a couple of lines from Cowboy Sweetheart to the front end of it, but the yodeling part has been the same NOTE FOR NOTE since the Yahoo Yodeling Contest (not to mention the whole entire outfit and hairdo). I'm not sayinig she's not talented, but she needs to learn a new yodeling song. I will ABSOLUTELY vote for her in the finals IF SHE SINGS A NEW YODELING SONG, but not if she repeats the same segment A 3RD TIME.
normaliswear
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 14 2006, 11:44 AM) *
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 20 SECONDS LAST NIGHT!! I'm talking about the 2 weeks in a row for competition. Note for note. The only difference was on Wednesday night this week (as compared to Wednesday night last week) she added a couple of lines from Cowboy Sweetheart to the front end of it, but the yodeling part has been the same NOTE FOR NOTE since the Yahoo Yodeling Contest (not to mention the whole entire outfit and hairdo). I'm not sayinig she's not talented, but she needs to learn a new yodeling song. I will ABSOLUTELY vote for her in the finals IF SHE SINGS A NEW YODELING SONG, but not if she repeats the same segment A 3RD TIME.

Wow.... thats just 100% factually incorrect. There are a lot of things on here that are opinion but thats not one of them. Two different songs, different yodeling, period. I would suggest you check out the videos available on this site of her performances.
drfireman
QUOTE (AGT_Canada @ Jul 14 2006, 06:30 AM) *
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

AGT_Canada


"All That" are very good cloggers, but they are not even close to being as good as many groups performing. My daughter was in a small group of girls, average age 14.5, that danced in NYC in a National Finals mixed dance competition. Cloggers never get recognition in a mixed competition, yet they blew away the entire auditorium. "All That" could NEVER compete in a true Clogger competition because they do NOT have the precision it takes to do so. Check out some of the ones such as Armadillo Stampede in Dallas every Labor Day weekend. Any of the groups there could beat "All That". The only thing going for them is sex appeal factor for the ladies.
ClogginChick
QUOTE (drfireman @ Jul 14 2006, 11:42 AM) *
"All That" are very good cloggers, but they are not even close to being as good as many groups performing. My daughter was in a small group of girls, average age 14.5, that danced in NYC in a National Finals mixed dance competition. Cloggers never get recognition in a mixed competition, yet they blew away the entire auditorium. "All That" could NEVER compete in a true Clogger competition because they do NOT have the precision it takes to do so. Check out some of the ones such as Armadillo Stampede in Dallas every Labor Day weekend. Any of the groups there could beat "All That". The only thing going for them is sex appeal factor for the ladies.


That I know of, All That! doesn't compete in clogging competitions...they're not trying to look like a competition group here. Some members of All That! are members of other clogging groups that do compete (very successfully) in "true Clogger" competitions, but they have a different look when they perform with those groups. It's an entirely different group/act/style. All That! is an entertainment group. And it was the group performing on TV for millions...so I say they have the right idea!
jazzylady
QUOTE (ClogginChick @ Jul 14 2006, 02:05 PM) *
That I know of, All That! doesn't compete in clogging competitions...they're not trying to look like a competition group here. Some members of All That! are members of other clogging groups that do compete (very successfully) in "true Clogger" competitions, but they have a different look when they perform with those groups. It's an entirely different group/act/style. All That! is an entertainment group. And it was the group performing on TV for millions...so I say they have the right idea!


Same yodeling song as 2 years ago, just condensed down to fit the show's time constraints, but still the same 2 years ago and the same for the last 2 weeks.

http://www.taylorware.com/newyodel.mp3
growlsinger
QUOTE (AGT_Canada @ Jul 14 2006, 06:30 AM) *
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

AGT_Canada

I too agree..her singing is not up to Par..she can yodel.....Southern states love that. I picked up on the fact that she only knows one song !!!!! BIG PROBLEM
Matt71
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 14 2006, 02:59 PM) *
Same yodeling song as 2 years ago, just condensed down to fit the show's time constraints, but still the same 2 years ago and the same for the last 2 weeks.

http://www.taylorware.com/newyodel.mp3


Actually, it's not the same song as last week. I thought it was too, but rewatched last week's episode and discover our error. Although the songs sound the same, they are actually different. The problem is that the yoddling part is the same.
jazzylady
QUOTE (Matt71 @ Jul 14 2006, 03:42 PM) *
Actually, it's not the same song as last week. I thought it was too, but rewatched last week's episode and discover our error. Although the songs sound the same, they are actually different. The problem is that the yoddling part is the same.



Please reread what I've been saying all along. THE YODELING SEGMENT IS THE SAME ONE OVER AND OVER. I said last Wednesday she added a couple of lines from Cowboy Sweetheart in front of the yodeling, but the yodeling segment has been the same one for the last 2 years. "He Taught Me How To Yodel" is NOT the only song that uses yodeling so, PLEASE TAYLOR, learn a new yodel song. She used the last bars of the same song (the yodeling parts) 2 weeks in a row on AGT and that is FACTUAL.
normaliswear
Still wrong
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 14 2006, 04:21 PM) *
Please reread what I've been saying all along. THE YODELING SEGMENT IS THE SAME ONE OVER AND OVER. I said last Wednesday she added a couple of lines from Cowboy Sweetheart in front of the yodeling, but the yodeling segment has been the same one for the last 2 years. "He Taught Me How To Yodel" is NOT the only song that uses yodeling so, PLEASE TAYLOR, learn a new yodel song. She used the last bars of the same song (the yodeling parts) 2 weeks in a row on AGT and that is FACTUAL.

Sorry but thats still incorrect. Watch them again. There are several yodeling elements in the 2nd performance that are not in the first. I understand they sound similar, especially when you're obviously not fond of her act in the first place. But to say its the same is, again, 100% factually incorrect. All that didn't do exactly the same thing because they continued clogging. The millers didn't do the exact same thing because they continued to use a harmonica. They looked and sounded similar though, just as Taylor did. But... different song, different yodeling elements=different routine. Period, end of story, finito, the end, etc etc.
musicfanatic22
Taylor was good but I would have to go with All That! Taylor does the same yodeling over and over and OVER again! Now I'm not sayin I can yodel but she keeps on doing the EXACT same yodel in the SAME song! All That was just cool bringing clogging to hip hop!
TaylorWareFan
QUOTE (musicfanatic22 @ Jul 14 2006, 01:45 PM) *
Taylor does the same yodeling over and over and OVER again! Now I'm not sayin I can yodel but she keeps on doing the EXACT same yodel in the SAME song!



For the last time, Taylor did NOT sing the same song. Song was different and yodeling was different. Take the time to watch the video again!!! Her first performance was a song called "He Taught Me to Yodel" and her second was "I Want to Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart." The yodeling was similar but not the same. Listen/watch the performance again!!!!!!!!!!!
jazzylady
QUOTE (TaylorWareFan @ Jul 14 2006, 06:34 PM) *
For the last time, Taylor did NOT sing the same song. Song was different and yodeling was different. Take the time to watch the video again!!! Her first performance was a song called "He Taught Me to Yodel" and her second was "I Want to Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart." The yodeling was similar but not the same. Listen/watch the performance again!!!!!!!!!!!



We HAVE watched it again! The yodeling segment from "Cowboy's Sweetheart" is NOT what Taylor Ware sang. She replaced the original yodeling segment from "Cowboy's Sweetheart" with the yodeling segment she does in "He Taught Me To Yodel." You need to go listen to one of the original versions of "Cowboy's Sweetheart." Musicfanatic you are RIGHT. Same yodel over and over again. We are all entitled to our opinion and mine is that I prefer someone who can show variety, not one hit wonders.

And if you want to hear someone who can yodel great AND SING GREAT then listen to Joanna Allen.
CheyenneAlisha
The chances of this kid winning is slim to none. The only thing I find interesting in her is the fact that she taught herself to yodel from a book. That takes dedication. Does she deserve the $1 million? Nope, sorry Taylor you just are not marketable. Of course, that is MY OPINION!

bjstur
QUOTE (normaliswear @ Jul 14 2006, 02:37 PM) *
Still wrong

Sorry but thats still incorrect. Watch them again. There are several yodeling elements in the 2nd performance that are not in the first. I understand they sound similar, especially when you're obviously not fond of her act in the first place. But to say its the same is, again, 100% factually incorrect. All that didn't do exactly the same thing because they continued clogging. The millers didn't do the exact same thing because they continued to use a harmonica. They looked and sounded similar though, just as Taylor did. But... different song, different yodeling elements=different routine. Period, end of story, finito, the end, etc etc.

[b]Its a freaken yodel!! It has to sound the same. Who would actually pay money to hear that crap?
all_that_fan
QUOTE (AGT_Canada @ Jul 14 2006, 07:30 AM) *
Don't get me wrong Taylor is a good yodeller, her singing though needs work. "All That" should have gone through to the next round, taken Taylor with them and called themselves "All That, and More".

AGT_Canada


I agree completely that they should ahve gone on to the next round but i defeinately wouldnt have brought her with them. They are an amazing clogging group and one of the best in the US. There is no possible way that she beat them. there were so many cloggers voting for them. it is just impossible.
lizgabucan@aol.com
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 14 2006, 05:23 PM) *
We HAVE watched it again! The yodeling segment from "Cowboy's Sweetheart" is NOT what Taylor Ware sang. She replaced the original yodeling segment from "Cowboy's Sweetheart" with the yodeling segment she does in "He Taught Me To Yodel." You need to go listen to one of the original versions of "Cowboy's Sweetheart." Musicfanatic you are RIGHT. Same yodel over and over again. We are all entitled to our opinion and mine is that I prefer someone who can show variety, not one hit wonders.

And if you want to hear someone who can yodel great AND SING GREAT then listen to Joanna Allen.

I think AGT is a very difficult competition to win because of the wide age group and the variety of talent.

I think Taylor did some great yodeling and Bianca has an amazing voice. That being said, there will always be others better and worse than them but I'm just happy that AGT is a platform that allows these talented people to perform. And when they do, they remind us of the great legends; we are inspired when someone reaches new heights, are in awe when we see something so extraordinary.

Whether people appreciate yodeling or not, it can be quite complicated especially when there are so many intricate and difficult patterns and each note must be hit exactly (without going flat or sharp) and sometimes at very fast speed. The more I learn about yodeling, the more I appreciate the skill of good yodelers. We admire Janet McBride (Yodeling Queen--yodeling coach to LeAnn Rimes and mentor and inspiration to many young yodelers), Kenny Roberts (King of the Yodelers), Margo Smith (World Class Yodeler), Mary Schneider, Wanda jackson, Ranger Doug, etc. and the great yodelers ones who have passed away: Patsy Montana, Carolina Cotton, etc.

To paraphrase the words of Janet McBride at the 2005 Western Music Association Youth International Yodeling Competition in New Mexico when she spoke to the young teen and pre-teen yodelers: "You, young ones are behind us, right at our heels and now there are even younger ones right behind your heels."

We have been so lucky to meet the next generation of yodelers: Chelsea Beck, Tiffany Jo, Carin Mari, Emalea Dell, Joanna Allen, Daniel Hanson & his sisters, Catherine Bowler, Christina Gabucan and Amanda Gabucan (7). Amanda not only yodels but also has a six octave range like Mariah Carey. Visit her website: www.betarecords.com/amanda.gabucan

It may not make mainstream music, Taylor may not win a million dollars, but yodelers know that when they yodel, they make a lot of people smile.
jazzylady
QUOTE (lizgabucan@aol.com @ Jul 18 2006, 03:41 AM) *
We have been so lucky to meet the next generation of yodelers: Chelsea Beck, Tiffany Jo, Carin Mari, Emalea Dell, Joanna Allen, Daniel Hanson & his sisters, Catherine Bowler, Christina Gabucan and Amanda Gabucan (7). Amanda not only yodels but also has a six octave range like Mariah Carey. Visit her website: www.betarecords.com/amanda.gabucan

It may not make mainstream music, Taylor may not win a million dollars, but yodelers know that when they yodel, they make a lot of people smile.


I'm going to assume Amanda is your daughter since you share the same last name? She is truly adorable, but after listening to her song clips, the yodeling got VERY irritating after listening to it for only a few seconds. It was very pitchy. I realize she is really really young, so maybe after more vocal lessons and maturity it will get a lot better. I also listened to Joanna Allen and that girl CAN SING really good and yodel. Didn't listen to any of the others that you mentioned though.

As I was listening to these kids yodel, I asked my son (8 years old) to see if he could imitate them and surprisingly he was able to do so with really good accuracy (and pitch). He's no way a singer, nor does he want to be a yodeler, never had voice lessons or heard of yodeling before so that tells me that yodeling can't be that difficult to master. It's just a matter of making your voice "break" at the right places.
ClogginChick
QUOTE (all_that_fan @ Jul 17 2006, 11:03 PM) *
They are an amazing clogging group and one of the best in the US. There is no possible way that she beat them. there were so many cloggers voting for them. it is just impossible.


Not to mention all the non-cloggers voting for them (family and friends of all five guys). I'm interested to know what the final voting count difference was between these two acts. Regis didn't even mention if it was close or not.
lizgabucan@aol.com
QUOTE (jazzylady @ Jul 18 2006, 05:59 AM) *
I'm going to assume Amanda is your daughter since you share the same last name? She is truly adorable, but after listening to her song clips, the yodeling got VERY irritating after listening to it for only a few seconds. It was very pitchy. I realize she is really really young, so maybe after more vocal lessons and maturity it will get a lot better. I also listened to Joanna Allen and that girl CAN SING really good and yodel. Didn't listen to any of the others that you mentioned though.

As I was listening to these kids yodel, I asked my son (8 years old) to see if he could imitate them and surprisingly he was able to do so with really good accuracy (and pitch). He's no way a singer, nor does he want to be a yodeler, never had voice lessons or heard of yodeling before so that tells me that yodeling can't be that difficult to master. It's just a matter of making your voice "break" at the right places.

That's great that your son can yodel with good accuracy (and pitch). I think my point is just to be happy when our kids have skills and talent and encourage them on. Also, a lot of kids can also do whistle notes like Mariah Carey--it comes naturally to them.

We have met Joanna Allen last year at the Western Music Association Yodeling Contest and, yes, she is very good and can sing. Daniel Hanson won last year. I'm glad that the WMA gives the the younger ones a platform to perform in and that there are mentors like Janet McBride who encourage them.

Like your son, my daughter has had no formal voice lessons. When she first started to yodel "m--o--m" I used to call say "what's that whiny, donkey noise you're making????" It was only after she heard Cowboy Sweetheart on the radio and yodeled with it that I realized that she was yodeling... She was six when she recorded those three songs as a gift to mom and Patty the Librarian--for the benefit of the Public Library's children's books.

I think it may be the same with your son. His voice just "breaks in the right places". Since yodeling came naturally to him, I can only say that he has been blessed with Godgiven "natural talent". Not everyone can do it. Some people take years of practice and still can't do it. I hope you encourage him and realize that he is indeed talented, and that he puts his talent to good use by sharing it with others. So I applaud your son. I hope you put some clips up so we can also hear him sing/yodel, applaud and cheer him on. Most of all, I hope he has fun yodeling and making people smile.
lizgabucan@aol.com
QUOTE (ClogginChick @ Jul 18 2006, 06:04 AM) *
Not to mention all the non-cloggers voting for them (family and friends of all five guys). I'm interested to know what the final voting count difference was between these two acts. Regis didn't even mention if it was close or not.

The cloggers were amazing. I hope that this is just a start for them and that we see more of them if not on AGT then in other venues.--Liz
Rudi Fan
I just watched both her performances again. And I have to say that I could understand why some people think it's the same yodel.....it is VERY similar, but there are some slight differences. They both end the same way, and the beat of the music is about the same, she just barely changes it up a bit in a couple of places.

BUT, who really cares??? A Yodel will NOT win this competition....you've now seen the extent of her talent, she has nothing more to offer. Would you pay money to see a 45 minute caberet show of that?? I know I'd get bored after the first 5 to 10 minutes!
wgm
and I turn the station. All That should have made it.
lizgabucan@aol.com
QUOTE (Rudi Fan @ Jul 18 2006, 12:50 PM) *
I just watched both her performances again. And I have to say that I could understand why some people think it's the same yodel.....it is VERY similar, but there are some slight differences. They both end the same way, and the beat of the music is about the same, she just barely changes it up a bit in a couple of places.

BUT, who really cares??? A Yodel will NOT win this competition....you've now seen the extent of her talent, she has nothing more to offer. Would you pay money to see a 45 minute caberet show of that?? I know I'd get bored after the first 5 to 10 minutes!

I can't wait to see the other performers and different talents that will be showcased! There are so many varieties and I guess that's why this show is a hit. Rudi Fan, I agree with you. While many people will not pay money to see a 45 minute cabaret of any "one" particular talent--, put a group of "one trick wonder"s and performers into one great big variety show that also allows us (the general public) to not only be fans, but be judges and critics all at the same time and we got: Simon Cowell's big hit: America's Got Talent.

However; unlike American Idol, where my favorite episodes are the first auditions where we get to watch the ridiculously funny attempts of "no talent" individuals who think they have talent compete with the better ones, with AGT, I can't wait to watch the next episode to see what other amazing and awesome talents will blow me away. -Liz
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