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teacupmonkey
I cant believe he made that little girl cry... poor boy... He'll never wanna dance again... I have no respect for Piers opinion anymore.... get rid of him.... poor kids
Mental Sodomy
He only told the truth.
Penguin888
QUOTE (duckman7 @ Aug 2 2006, 10:45 PM) *
I say to get rid of all 3 judges. Do the show without judges, give each act 3 minutes to perform (double the current time) and just let the audience do the voting.


You just described "30 Seconds To Fame" only with a performace time of 3 minutes.
TheGoldyGopher
Ever wonder why so many "yes people" get promoted in business? In America we don't like to hear the truth, whether we are talking about talent scouts or business managers. People want to hear nothing but positives, any negatives and your suddenly the next great "Satan". Whether that means getting overlooked or replaced at work or when a talent scout talks about your act.
Pier's tells the truth and sometimes the truth is painful. His comments about "Celtic Spring" were very much right on or at least right on with what I was thinking, and discussing with my wife. Had the youngest son sat next to dad during the entire routine they PROBABLY would have been the judge's choice tonight. And unfortunately (I hate agreeing with him) David's comments were also right on, some things are more important than money.
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monkeydude1798
I agree Piers told the truth, he does them a disservice if he hadn't his job on the show is to be honest and help people progress in their talent, by not saying anything when you have some constructive criticism would be stupid.

As for the little girl crying, suck it up, she was too old to be crying, the little boy maybe, but the little girl, life's tough.
teacupmonkey
He didnt have to say what he said... it was just plain mean... truth is... he said it bc he's Simons little brother.
Mental Sodomy
yeah, that little girl had no reason to cry. We don't live in a sugar coated world.
cayla99
Personally I think Piers had it in for them before they even performed. I am not sure in his dream world that he has been told the "troubles" are over. Just another political strike with more children hurt in a conflict that has gone on much too long. Being Irish, It isn't hard to see that look in the eyes that screams "run for cover" we knew they were finished before his comments about the celtic costumes. As we all know, It was later confirmed. Just like his slip last week that the "rappin' granny" had made it through to the finals, with half the acts still waiting to go on. This show appears to be fixed and will no longer be watched by me or mine.
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (teacupmonkey @ Aug 2 2006, 10:54 PM) *
He didnt have to say what he said... it was just plain mean... truth is... he said it bc he's Simons little brother.


He's not actually his brother, but I think you're just using that brother term to compare the two. Yes they're alike but they are also honest and the best thing that could happen to any of the acts they critique.

Secondly he did have to. What did you want him to say, you were great and wonderful, that's a lie, that's not the truth. This isn't Candy Land, the truth hurts and you HAVE to hear the truth.
teacupmonkey
Lets see you guys riverdance while playing the violin... that actually takes talent which the judges lack... you guys lack common morals... not too mention common sense... the girls not even ten years old and look how talented she is
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (teacupmonkey @ Aug 2 2006, 11:05 PM) *
Lets see you guys riverdance while playing the violin... that actually takes talent which the judges lack... you guys lack common morals... not too mention common sense... the girls not even ten years old and look how talented she is


He never said they weren't talented. He never said it wasn't impressive, he simply said that they need to get rid of their parents and that little boy. He never mentioned he wasn't impressed or it was talentless. Maybe if you listened closer you'd pick up on these kind of things.

We don't lack common morals, we just lack tough skin, that was constructive criticism it wasn't an attack. Like I said this isn't Candy Land this is Americas Got Talent you have to be able to take criticism, if you don't like what he said don't use the criticism it's that easy.

I'm not quite sure how we lack common sense, you'll have to explain that one to me.

She was very talented for about 8 or 9, but she was also very sensitive for 8 or 9, that should be the age where you don't cry over crap like that. If she can't take criticism by age 8 or 9, especially in the field she's working in, she's not going anywhere.
Matt71
QUOTE (monkeydude1798 @ Aug 3 2006, 12:08 AM) *
I'm not quite sure how we lack common sense, you'll have to explain that one to me.


Or we can keep things peaceful and refrain from discusing other posters common sense. Let's not make things personal folks. We've had a rough enough night as it is.

,Matt
Mental Sodomy
American's are sensitive to EVERYTHING.
teacupmonkey
yep... i listen... get rid of the brother... means he has no talent... the little guy could dance circles around your best tango.... do know a more talented 5 year old... what bc he wasnt tap dancing to disco like the overhyped twins... hes considered not good enough for the rest of his family... how many families do you know that are actually together doing anything constructive?
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (teacupmonkey @ Aug 2 2006, 11:14 PM) *
yep... i listen... get rid of the brother... means he has no talent... the little guy could dance circles around your best tango.... do know a more talented 5 year old... what bc he wasnt tap dancing to disco like the overhyped twins... hes considered not good enough for the rest of his family... how many families do you know that are actually together doing anything constructive?


Say the boy needs to go doesn't mean he has no talent, now you're putting words in Piers mouth, his dancing was ok, just as much as I would expect from a five year old. I did, Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen on Full House were much more talented then him (hint my sarcasm)

By the way I know several families that are together that do things constructive.
teacupmonkey
Uh... lets see... do you know how hard it is to play the violin... no... do you know how hard it is to riverdance by yourself... no.. how about riverdancing while playing violin in unison with several people... to individually insult a family that has a tight bond for no reason... yep insult... yep for no reason except to take the opportunity to do a Simon (sensationalize everything)... there was no other reason he said what he said... he wasnt being honest(TRUTH) ... he was taking advantage of an opprotunity to play the bad guy... unfortunately he went to far this time and it was so obvious... You guys see him as the alternative voice amongst the Three Stooges when hes really just another bad actor who couldnt even get a part in Mooesha's show.
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (teacupmonkey @ Aug 2 2006, 11:36 PM) *
Uh... lets see... do you know how hard it is to play the violin... no... do you know how hard it is to riverdance by yourself... no.. how about riverdancing while playing violin in unison with several people... to individually insult a family that has a tight bond for no reason... yep insult... yep for no reason except to take the opportunity to do a Simon (sensationalize everything)... there was no other reason he said what he said... he wasnt being honest(TRUTH) ... he was taking advantage of an opprotunity to play the bad guy... unfortunately he went to far this time and it was so obvious... You guys see him as the alternative voice amongst the Three Stooges when hes really just another bad actor who couldnt even get a part in Mooesha's show.


Alright, way to assume what I can and cannot do. I actually did play the Violin in middle school so you were a little wrong on that one. And again you're putting words in my mouth, I never said it didn't take talent to riverdance and play the violin, in fact I said they were talented.

He didn't insult the family, gosh get that through you're head, he just expressed his opinion, just because it wasn't a glowing review doesn't mean it was an insult.

And because I can, I'll pull a you...

Do you know that the only reason he did it was to take the opportunity to do a "Simon"...no...

By the way honest is (this is from Websters) - free from fraud or deception
Piers didn't deceive them, he was HONEST. Honesty isn't always the truth, because it's not fact, it's opinion so you're definition of honest is completely dishonest.

Since you assumed what I knew I'll assume that you are way to sensitive, can't take criticism and probably have a hard time making improvements on things you do.

But than again assuming only makes an a.s.s. of you and me.

And in case I didn't say it before, I never said, nor did Piers say, that this group wasn't talented, he asked them if they wanted to know what would make them win a million dollars, and asked them if they wanted him to be completely honest, and after they agreed he said it. I find that group very talented by not a million dollars worth and I completely agree with Piers. Lighten up and get out of your little fantasy world of "everyone is a winner"
teacupmonkey
Dude come on... honest opinion... opinion... whatever.... Mr piers could've said... you guys may wanna downsize... something to that affect to get his point across... but to single out the little brother was not right... it just made for good TV... you'll just keep coming up with lame excuses to validate your new found honest opinion... I'm done validating mine... nite
talentjudge
Yeaaaaahhhhh! A very sincere thank you, teacupmonkey. Piers has to go big time. It was half-bad when he said that one Miller should "sack" another Miller, but it was even worse today, when he said that these children need to "sack" their dad, mom, and a little brother. I mean, I felt sorry for the little one, when he cried, but I felt even sorrier for the girl, who cried because that was her family he wanted to "sack". I mean, really, does truth comes before sympathy these days? It was really mean for him to do that twice already and even more appoling today. So, I give a "CROSS" to Piers, because he is a one mean judge.
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (teacupmonkey @ Aug 3 2006, 12:30 AM) *
Dude come on... honest opinion... opinion... whatever.... Mr piers could've said... you guys may wanna downsize... something to that affect to get his point across... but to single out the little brother was not right... it just made for good TV... you'll just keep coming up with lame excuses to validate your new found honest opinion... I'm done validating mine... nite


If I'm coming up with lame excuses than so our you. But all I'm doing is stating my opinion.

You think him saying "You guys might want to downsize" would generate a follow up question of "What do you mean" you're kidding yourself, there was no better way to do that.

And he didn't single out the little brother, he mentioned the mom, dad, and little brother all in the same breath of air, he didn't say, just lose the little kid.

You can't be done validating yours you've yet to validate it. You have given me a reason why Piers should have held his beliefs back, you haven't given me another way to state his opinion, at least not a good one. If you want to prove your point you've still got a lot of work to do.
richhope
I haven't had real problems with Piers until tonight. I don't always agree with him, but respected that he has his own opinion. My problem with him tonight was how he acted about Michelle L'Amour's act. He obviously voted her through to perform tonight, he knew his children would be in the audience, he said he had to be careful of what he said in front of them, he didn't care what they saw, and the total hypocrisy of him was when he X'd her act. The first time she was on, he was all over it, tonight he acted like he was appalled she would do that. Seemed very hypocritical to me.
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (talentjudge @ Aug 3 2006, 12:44 AM) *
Yeaaaaahhhhh! A very sincere thank you, teacupmonkey. Piers has to go big time. It was half-bad when he said that one Miller should "sack" another Miller, but it was even worse today, when he said that these children need to "sack" their dad, mom, and a little brother. I mean, I felt sorry for the little one, when he cried, but I felt even sorrier for the girl, who cried because that was her family he wanted to "sack". I mean, really, does truth comes before sympathy these days? It was really mean for him to do that twice already and even more appoling today. So, I give a "CROSS" to Piers, because he is a one mean judge.


Let's get one thing straight here, that whole sack your brother thing (speaking of the Millers) was true the older Miller brother isn't very good. Worst of all the younger one made it seem worse than it was by crying. He's 12 years old there was no need for him to cry in that situation. If he cries over that he won't make it anywhere in the music business that's for sure.

As for the comments tonight, everyone is up and arms about this for no reason. It's not like he just came out with it, he even said something to the effect of I've already told one person to get rid of a sibling or something like that, they knew what he was going to say there's no way you couldn't have seen it coming. He asked if they wanted his honest opinion on how to win the millions they willing agreed, he warned them and gave them discretion over his comments.

The litter girl again had no reason to cry and it ticked me off that she did. I have sympathy but not for crying over something like that. Suck it up.

"does truth comes before sympathy these days" - In business yes. You can't hold a honest criticism back just because you think it'll hurt someone, that's a disservice to them. You've got to critique people so they can become better. If we put sympathy before truth than there would be thousands of horrible pilots aired on television and horrible contestants on American Idol. You need to be brash and you need to tell people what your honest opinion is. You'll probably say that not in the situation of little kids. You've got to remember that the majority of them were older and needed to hear that. It's their decision to execute it, if they didn't like the comment they could have made a huge statement by just walking off the stage, that would have sent a massive message out to everyone.
monkeydude1798
QUOTE (richhope @ Aug 3 2006, 12:50 AM) *
I haven't had real problems with Piers until tonight. I don't always agree with him, but respected that he has his own opinion. My problem with him tonight was how he acted about Michelle L'Amour's act. He obviously voted her through to perform tonight, he knew his children would be in the audience, he said he had to be careful of what he said in front of them, he didn't care what they saw, and the total hypocrisy of him was when he X'd her act. The first time she was on, he was all over it, tonight he acted like he was appalled she would do that. Seemed very hypocritical to me.


I'll give you that one, but we really don't know if his kids maybe surprised him at the show or something. I still think it was absurd for her to have been in this round. But in all fairness we really don't know if his kids were going to be there tonight. I don't know the time frame between picking the acts that are going on and when they actually perform so it's too hard to gage if he knew his kids were going to be there or not.
Grasshoppa
I'm thinking it was mentioned that she was performing at the end, so remove your kids. Maybe I heard that part wrong. Not sure why he didn't remove his kids...
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