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cindy77
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:08 PM) *
see, that makes it a catch 22 IMO...I don't want to see it, but if the writers just kind of imply it happened then the Ejammers will just tell us it's not that bad and that it was never seen so it may not have been rape. It was implied when EJ tried to assult her in her apartment that even though Sami compared it to Alan and the rape that it's not what played out on screen. It makes me ill, but unless the rape is shown these ejami folk will just say it's our way of degrading their couple.

YUCK! sad.gif



OMG lucaskisses!!!! I haven't talked to you in soo long! How are you?

I agree with this post. As much as I would hate to see Sami raped again, if it's going to happen then leave no room for doubt. The jammers have to see first handwhat a cruel man EJ really is.
SoulMates
I don't blame the EJami fans for hoping that some way EJ could be redeemed, not at all. I don't think it's gonna happen, but that's JMO. I doubt any of them really accept rape. I think we should all wait and see what happens. After those scenes air, we'll all have a much clearer impression of what really occurs.
lucaskisses
QUOTE (muchbetterhalf @ Dec 15 2006, 03:11 PM) *
I don't know how far in advance they tape these scences but it could be possible that the writer's will show it on screen just to make it clear that it is rape and leave no doubt.



Usually they tape a few weeks in advance, however I believe they tape alot further during this time of year so the actors can spend a little bit of holiday time with their families. There is no doubt in my mind this has already been taped. I know there are pictures for a few weeks ago of when Clay Aiken was on the show and that happens in the same week if I'm not mistaken (Or maybe it is the week after) but I'm possitive these scenes have already been taped.

p.s- It makes me roll my eyes when I see people post on some threads that says how it hasn't aired yet so maybe Hogan will change his mind...Yeah Okay.....cause that makes a boatload of sense...
lucaskisses
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:17 PM) *
OMG lucaskisses!!!! I haven't talked to you in soo long! How are you?

I agree with this post. As much as I would hate to see Sami raped again, if it's going to happen then leave no room for doubt. The jammers have to see first handwhat a cruel man EJ really is.



Hi cindy!!!!! I'm good. I'm glad to be back with my Lumily on this site! How are you? Did ya see the letter to Santa from Sami that I made yesterday? LOL!
cindy77
QUOTE (muchbetterhalf @ Dec 15 2006, 02:09 PM) *
Rape is rape whether you are wined and dined prior to the assault or attacked in a dark alley. It's the worst possible violation a woman can endure in my opinion.


Your entire post was right on, but this is the line that really sums it up for me. You can be raped by anyone, in any situation. I don't know why that is so hard for some people to comprehend. blink.gif
cindy77
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:21 PM) *
Hi cindy!!!!! I'm good. I'm glad to be back with my Lumily on this site! How are you? Did ya see the letter to Santa from Sami that I made yesterday? LOL!



Yes, I did and I liked it. biggrin.gif

I'm good. I'm at work right now and I'm suffering from an acute case of Friday-itis. wink.gif
sliderwnf
My cable is going in and out, so hopefully this will post this time!! I find it hard to believe that the writers are going this route. For ej to have sex with Sami... He makes a good DiMera, but I DON'T WANT TO SEE another Dimera obsession.. It was bad enough having Stephano obsess over Marlena.. It just goes to show that Sami IS IN LOVE WITH LUCAS..
lucaskisses
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:23 PM) *
Yes, I did and I liked it. biggrin.gif

I'm good. I'm at work right now and I'm suffering from an acute case of Friday-itis. wink.gif



That's funny...my hubby just called from work and told me the same thing...i hope you don't have long to go before you are free from your job.....I think Fridays should be declared part of the weekend and a work week should only be till Thursday. biggrin.gif
sliderwnf
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 11:27 AM) *
My cable is going in and out, so hopefully this will post this time!! I find it hard to believe that the writers are going this route. For ej to have sex with Sami... He makes a good DiMera, but I DON'T WANT TO SEE another Dimera obsession.. It was bad enough having Stephano obsess over Marlena.. It just goes to show that Sami IS IN LOVE WITH LUCAS..


And what great lenghts she will go to to protect him.. Yet, the ejammers think that he will be redeemed, I know this for a fact, I will ff these scenes as any kind of demeaning scene like this makes me sick to my stomach...
veryfine_1
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:28 PM) *
That's funny...my hubby just called from work and told me the same thing...i hope you don't have long to go before you are free from your job.....I think Fridays should be declared part of the weekend and a work week should only be till Thursday. biggrin.gif


ITA!!
cindy77
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 02:29 PM) *
And what great lenghts she will go to to protect him.. Yet, the ejammers think that he will be redeemed, I know this for a fact, I will ff these scenes as any kind of demeaning scene like this makes me sick to my stomach...



laugh.gif You must be frustrated, you quoted yourself! j/k

lucaskisses, I work until 4:30 so I get to leave in 1 hour, 51 minutes and 27 seconds. biggrin.gif
SoulMates
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:28 PM) *
That's funny...my hubby just called from work and told me the same thing...i hope you don't have long to go before you are free from your job.....I think Fridays should be declared part of the weekend and a work week should only be till Thursday. biggrin.gif

Haha, I second that!
azgirlygirl
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 02:23 PM) *
Yes, I did and I liked it. biggrin.gif

I'm good. I'm at work right now and I'm suffering from an acute case of Friday-itis. wink.gif


I'm at work too and feel the same way!!!!
azgirlygirl
Going to lunch now girlz!!! B back in an hour!!!

Keep the Lumi Love!!!
lucaskisses
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:39 PM) *
laugh.gif You must be frustrated, you quoted yourself! j/k

lucaskisses, I work until 4:30 so I get to leave in 1 hour, 51 minutes and 27 seconds. biggrin.gif



not that you are counting though, right? wink.gif
cindy77
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:41 PM) *
not that you are counting though, right? wink.gif



Who? Me?? Never! tongue.gif
veryfine_1
LOL u guys
lucaskisses
QUOTE (veryfine @ Dec 15 2006, 03:47 PM) *
LOL u guys



I LOL at myself all the time.....I have issues.....(Of course it's nothing that a night with Bryan Dattilo couldn't fix. Picture it.....Dinner, candles, Bry half nekkid, those sexy hands, his great big juicy.....WELL DONE STEAK!....LOL!) see I have definate issues..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
hotlumi
lucaskisses, that's hilarious. so how did everyone like Lumi yesterday. i thought Lucas was extra sexy ( is that possible??) when he was teasing Sami about he might be jealous if they were sleeping together and i also loved that huge smile she got on her face when she asked him he was jealous..swoon!
sliderwnf
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 11:39 AM) *
laugh.gif You must be frustrated, you quoted yourself! j/k

lucaskisses, I work until 4:30 so I get to leave in 1 hour, 51 minutes and 27 seconds. biggrin.gif


I quoted myself, because I didn't want to leave the other post as it was... You are all lucky, I have yet to go to work... sad.gif But, it is FRIDAY and two whole days off!!!! WHOOT-WHOOT!!!

Cindy, count down those minutes, it will go ever soooooo sllllloooooowwwwww!! laugh.gif laugh.gif As us Amazon's would say, DON'T TOUCH THE HAPPY SPOT!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
cindy77
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 02:51 PM) *
I LOL at myself all the time.....I have issues.....(Of course it's nothing that a night with Bryan Dattilo couldn't fix. Picture it.....Dinner, candles, Bry half nekkid, those sexy hands, his great big juicy.....WELL DONE STEAK!....LOL!) see I have definate issues..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



I think you do have issues. You have Bryan there all to yourself and he's only half nekkid...shame! wink.gif laugh.gif
sliderwnf
QUOTE (Hotlumi @ Dec 15 2006, 11:55 AM) *
lucaskisses, that's hilarious. so how did everyone like Lumi yesterday. i thought Lucas was extra sexy ( is that possible??) when he was teasing Sami about he might be jealous if they were sleeping together and i also loved that huge smile she got on her face when she asked him he was jealous..swoon!



I loved it, but I wanted them to have sex before the trip that way the future baby will be a LUMI baby.. Not a ebore baby... wink.gif
veryfine_1
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 02:55 PM) *
I think you do have issues. You have Bryan there all to yourself and he's only half nekkid...shame! wink.gif laugh.gif



ROFLMAO.. Thats exactly what I was thinking LMAO laugh.gif
hotlumi
no ebore baby ever! a sweet little Lumi girl. now will she have blue eyes like her mommy and brown hair like her daddy? that will be one beautiful baby! AAWWW!!
hotlumi
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 02:55 PM) *
I think you do have issues. You have Bryan there all to yourself and he's only half nekkid...shame! wink.gif laugh.gif

ROTFLMAO!! truer words cindy!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
lucaskisses
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 03:56 PM) *
I loved it, but I wanted them to have sex before the trip that way the future baby will be a LUMI baby.. Not a ebore baby... wink.gif



Don't worry my dear slider...there is Lumi lovin in the horizon. They are defanetely going for a WTD storyline.
cindy77
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 02:55 PM) *
I quoted myself, because I didn't want to leave the other post as it was... You are all lucky, I have yet to go to work... sad.gif But, it is FRIDAY and two whole days off!!!! WHOOT-WHOOT!!!

Cindy, count down those minutes, it will go ever soooooo sllllloooooowwwwww!! laugh.gif laugh.gif As us Amazon's would say, DON'T TOUCH THE HAPPY SPOT!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif


laugh.gif ....yep...let's see I'm down to 1 hour, 35 minutes, 46 seconds now. wink.gif

I'm going to my Christmas party tonight...I hope it isn't boring, so I may be around late. All depends on what time I get home and how I feel.

I can't wait for 2 days off!!! I have sooo much to do. I have to mail my christmas cards, finish Christmas shopping, clean up (before I leave town next weekend) and of course, it's Chistmas cookie weekend. I'm making 6 different kinds. I'll have my own little cookie factory going, so if anyone is in Delaware just stop by for a some. wink.gif
SoulMates
QUOTE (veryfine @ Dec 15 2006, 02:58 PM) *
ROFLMAO.. Thats exactly what I was thinking LMAO laugh.gif

Ditto laugh.gif

Who else here has the wallpaper BooPea posted yesterday as their desktop background? biggrin.gif I love love love it! The pic is too beautiful!
lucaskisses
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:55 PM) *
I think you do have issues. You have Bryan there all to yourself and he's only half nekkid...shame! wink.gif laugh.gif

You are absolutely correct! I'm out of my mind! Let it be known throughout the land that if Bryan Dattilo comes to my house he has to completely strip before he walks in the door. (Of course if my hubby is eating dinner with us it could make things slightly awkward...I mean he really loves a good steak and potato......but I'll worry about that if the situation ever arises.....arises! LOL!LOL!LOL!) Okay, I have officially lost my mind.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
cindy77
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 02:56 PM) *
I loved it, but I wanted them to have sex before the trip that way the future baby will be a LUMI baby.. Not a ebore baby... wink.gif



According to spoilers, Lumi make love before EJ rapes/forces her to have sex with him. Without sounding crued, that would mean that Lucas would have been there first. Look what happened the last time with Will. I think the same thing will happen again.

We may get a WTD? story but I don't think it will last long.
SoulMates
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:19 PM) *
True but I think this is being done for a few reasons.

1.) To show that EJ does not love Sami. You can't claim to love someone if you rape them.
2.) To tie up loose ends left from Sami's first rape. It always bothered me the way it was just swept under carpet like it was no big deal or had no lasting affect on Sami.
3.) To redeem Lucas. Sami will tell Lucas what happened and tell hin he doesn't know who the father is. Lucas will stand by Sami and be with her because of his love her, no matter what!
4.) By Lucas accepted the possibilty of the baby being EJ's, then loving the child even if it isn't biologically his, will help Sami to reconcile her relationship with John.
5.) To show Lumi as the true couple. They will face adversity and challenges and come out on top and stronger. This is a hallmark of a supercouple.

Yeah... We will be seeing some very emotional Lumi scenes. I'm sure Ali and Bryan will rock them!
SoulMates
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:07 PM) *
According to spoilers, Lumi make love before EJ rapes/forces her to have sex with him. Without sounding crued, that would mean that Lucas would have been there already. Look what happened the last time with Will. I think the same thing will happen again.

We may get a WTD? story but I don't think it will last long.

I'm so not looking forward to a WTD storyline.
cindy77
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 03:04 PM) *
You are absolutely correct! I'm out of my mind! Let it be known throughout the land that if Bryan Dattilo comes to my house he has to completely strip before he walks in the door. (Of course if my hubby is eating dinner with us it could make things slightly awkward...I mean he really loves a good steak and potato......but I'll worry about that if the situation ever arises.....arises! LOL!LOL!LOL!) Okay, I have officially lost my mind.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif That's ok, I lost my mind a long time ago. In fact, I've even given up looking for it. tongue.gif
hotlumi
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 03:01 PM) *
Ditto laugh.gif

Who else here has the wallpaper BooPea posted yesterday as their desktop background? biggrin.gif I love love love it! The pic is too beautiful!

that pic is off the hook gorgeous!! tongue.gif
cindy77
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 03:11 PM) *
I'm so not looking forward to a WTD storyline.



True but I think this is being done for a few reasons.

1.) To show that EJ does not love Sami. You can't claim to love someone if you rape them.
2.) To tie up loose ends left from Sami's first rape. It always bothered me the way it was just swept under carpet like it was no big deal or had no lasting affect on Sami.
3.) To redeem Lucas. Sami will tell Lucas what happened and tell him that she doesn't know who the father is. Lucas will stand by Sami and be with her because of his love her, no matter what!
4.) By Lucas accepted the possibilty of the baby being EJ's, then loving the child even if it isn't biologically his, will help Sami to reconcile her relationship with John.
5.) To show Lumi as the rooting couple. They will face adversity and challenges and come out on top and stronger. This is a hallmark of a supercouple.
hotlumi
ITA cindy. this is supercouple stuff. they'll come out on top.
lucaskisses
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 04:36 PM) *
Bryan has such a sense of humor... laugh.gif laugh.gif I can't wait until after xmas cause I get a subscription of SOD, from my s/o...



Now see, that is a good S/O....you think my husband could take a hint? All I asked for was a ticket to Wicked (the musical) a subscription to SOD and Bryan Dattilo under the tree!

I mean really....is that so hard? Now I do know he spent 250 dollars on one of my presents but I also know it's not a ticket to Wicked or any of the above....

Don't get me wrong I know what ever he picked out I'm really gonna love, but I have only been hinting every other day about the ticket.

Men! I mean okay so I'm not going to Wicked so i think I should get my default gift.....Come to Mama, Bryan!


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
cindy77
Well as much fun as this has been, I actually have some work I have to go do now, which would make sense since I am at work. wink.gif

It's been fun. TTYL! biggrin.gif
sliderwnf
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 12:01 PM) *
Ditto laugh.gif

Who else here has the wallpaper BooPea posted yesterday as their desktop background? biggrin.gif I love love love it! The pic is too beautiful!


Actually, NO, I have my grandaughters Alyssa and Sierra as my wallpaper background.. They hold presendece over anything else..

Which one are you talking about, the ej in jail attire???
lucaskisses
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 04:21 PM) *
Yeah... We will be seeing some very emotional Lumi scenes. I'm sure Ali and Bryan will rock them!

I can honestly tell you that the only reason I will even consider watching any kind of rape from EJerk is because I know Bryan and Ali are nail the emotions of Lumi. The chemistry and emotion in there scenes give me goosebumps. Remember a few Lumisodes ago when Will was going away to ski camp and they wanted to fool around on the couch? Well if you notice when Sami starts to pull her shirt off, both of the shirts she was wearing came up a little high. Without missing a beat Lucas/Bryan pulled that second shirt back down. You know that wasn't scripted.

Has anyone read the new issue of SOW? The interview with Bryan and Ali? The last question of the interview went something like "What would you do if TPTB told you tomorrow you couldn't work together anymore?"

Bryan's answer. "I'd quit! Take away the money! take away the fame! Take away the Playboy mansion, take away the Mustang. Sayanora!

I have always loved Bryan (yeah, like that is a secret! laugh.gif ) but he and Ali have a connection onscreen and off. It plays so beautifully on tv that I can't believe everyone could even possibly like Ejami.


If you haven't seen the article I strongly suggest you pick up a copy of SOW or someone really graciously put the article up on Second Chances.
sliderwnf
Bryan has such a sense of humor... laugh.gif laugh.gif I can't wait until after xmas cause I get a subscription of SOD, from my s/o...
azgirlygirl
QUOTE (cindy77 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:19 PM) *
True but I think this is being done for a few reasons.

1.) To show that EJ does not love Sami. You can't claim to love someone if you rape them.
2.) To tie up loose ends left from Sami's first rape. It always bothered me the way it was just swept under carpet like it was no big deal or had no lasting affect on Sami.
3.) To redeem Lucas. Sami will tell Lucas what happened and tell him that she doesn't know who the father is. Lucas will stand by Sami and be with her because of his love her, no matter what!
4.) By Lucas accepted the possibilty of the baby being EJ's, then loving the child even if it isn't biologically his, will help Sami to reconcile her relationship with John.
5.) To show Lumi as the rooting couple. They will face adversity and challenges and come out on top and stronger. This is a hallmark of a supercouple.


Great post cindy! Thanks for laying it out like that... Gives me hope that HS knows what he is doing!!! (especially since I have loved how the show has been lately smile.gif )
SoulMates
QUOTE (sliderwnf @ Dec 15 2006, 03:30 PM) *
Actually, NO, I have my grandaughters Alyssa and Sierra as my wallpaper background.. They hold presendece over anything else..

Which one are you talking about, the ej in jail attire???

LMAO, nope (love that one too, LOL) I'm talking about the gorgeous LUMI Christmas wallpaper smile.gif
SoulMates
QUOTE (lucaskisses @ Dec 15 2006, 03:30 PM) *
I can honestly tell you that the only reason I will even consider watching any kind of rape from EJerk is because I know Bryan and Ali are nail the emotions of Lumi. The chemistry and emotion in there scenes give me goosebumps. Remember a few Lumisodes ago when Will was going away to ski camp and they wanted to fool around on the couch? Well if you notice when Sami starts to pull her shirt off, both of the shirts she was wearing came up a little high. Without missing a beat Lucas/Bryan pulled that second shirt back down. You know that wasn't scripted.

Has anyone read the new issue of SOW? The interview with Bryan and Ali? The last question of the interview went something like "What would you do if TPTB told you tomorrow you couldn't work together anymore?"

Bryan's answer. "I'd quit! Take away the money! take away the fame! Take away the Playboy mansion, take away the Mustang. Sayanora!

I have always loved Bryan (yeah, like that is a secret! laugh.gif ) but he and Ali have a connection onscreen and off. It plays so beautifully on tv that I can't believe everyone could even possibly like Ejami.
If you haven't seen the article I strongly suggest you pick up a copy of SOW or someone really graciously put the article up on Second Chances.

Yeah, I remember that! They work so well together.

LMAO, gotta love Bryan laugh.gif
kittykatpa123
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 03:54 PM) *
LMAO, nope (love that one too, LOL) I'm talking about the gorgeous LUMI Christmas wallpaper smile.gif




BUMP! Lumi deserves to be on top after today! Evil Dimera E-Jerk! LOL Love your banners soulmates! biggrin.gif
sahmdoolfan
For all of you that think the the Ejami fans are going to twist what happened between EJ and Sami around if we don't "see" the rape....they already are....see the post, EJami form a fans point of view or what ever it is. So I guess we will have to hope that there is nothing left to the imagination just so they can get it through their heads that EJ doesn't love Sami.
SoulMates
QUOTE (sahmdoolfan @ Dec 15 2006, 04:07 PM) *
For all of you that think the the Ejami fans are going to twist what happened between EJ and Sami around if we don't "see" the rape....they already are....see the post, EJami form a fans point of view or what ever it is. So I guess we will have to hope that there is nothing left to the imagination just so they can get it through their heads that EJ doesn't love Sami.

I didn't see them twisting anything in that thread. Just saying that maybe there's more to this than we know.
SoulMates
QUOTE (kittykatpa123 @ Dec 15 2006, 04:06 PM) *
BUMP! Lumi deserves to be on top after today! Evil Dimera E-Jerk! LOL Love your banners soulmates! biggrin.gif

Thanks smile.gif
lucaskisses
QUOTE (sahmdoolfan @ Dec 15 2006, 05:07 PM) *
For all of you that think the the Ejami fans are going to twist what happened between EJ and Sami around if we don't "see" the rape....they already are....see the post, EJami form a fans point of view or what ever it is. So I guess we will have to hope that there is nothing left to the imagination just so they can get it through their heads that EJ doesn't love Sami.



I've seen the post....and I don't think for a second that if they saw it in all it's horrific glory they would even believe it. Some people just don't know how to let things die a horrible death. besides then they have to admit they were wrong. That is a hard thing for alot of people to do. I think it's horribly pathetic how some people can justify rape or sexual assult. I wanna scream bloody murder everytime I see someone post "But it's just a soap!" It makes me sick just thinking about it. But they will never conceed that EJ is a monster.

Sami herseld said when EJ attacked her that he wasn't gonna stop and she is the one who compared it to what Alan did to her but some fan bases didn't want to except that. I'm convinced some folk are not even Sami fans no matter how much they say they are.
sahmdoolfan
QUOTE (SoulMates @ Dec 15 2006, 01:11 PM) *
I didn't see them twisting anything in that thread. Just saying that maybe there's more to this than we know.

"That is all so true Power, we dont know what will happen for sure or what they will make it "seem" like happened later after the fact."

This is the post that made me feel that way.....maybe I read it wrong.
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