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hobbes310
If you would like to see this cast change, add your reply. If you like things the way they are, rather than sniping at this petition, begin a petition to keep things they way they are. Then the network bigwigs can really gauge the situation.
L&Owhore
H3ll I'd settle just for a petition that gets Govich the f out of there.
floridaRN
Where do I sign?

I'm sure she is a nice girl and all but she is just awful in the show.
MimesisBTG
I understand Dick Wolf's reasoning in wanting to bring in a tough, attractive woman to play the role of the junior detective, but Goivch is just not convincing in that role. She distracts from the story and HAS to go if they want the show to survive. I would not mind if Farina returned, but I also would like to see them cast another actress who is better suited for the role...Connie Nielsen from SVU comes to mind.
mslmsmc
I agree. The new partner can't carry the show. She definitely doesn't measure up (in ANY way) to any of the major detectives on this show's long, great history. If they don't bring Farina back, they need someone WAY better than Govich. If not, this will definitely be the demise of the show. mad.gif
llao149992
QUOTE (MimesisBTG @ Dec 4 2006, 10:47 AM) *
I understand Dick Wolf's reasoning in wanting to bring in a tough, attractive woman to play the role of the junior detective, but Goivch is just not convincing in that role. She distracts from the story and HAS to go if they want the show to survive. I would not mind if Farina returned, but I also would like to see them cast another actress who is better suited for the role...Connie Nielsen from SVU comes to mind.


I agree. Govich just brings the show down. sad.gif If you have to have eye candy just get someone who can act.

I don't think most of those posting have a problem with the eye candy part, it's just Govich is not believable. Her acting is really bad. I don't know why. Maybe she is better on stage but on this she just stinks up the entire show. The writing is not the greatest this season either but it's the same writing Jesse, Epatha, Sam and Fred have to deal with but they are doing a whole lot better with it.

It's not a question of either a good actress or eye candy. I think both can be in the same actress but Govich isn't it. In the acting department anyway. Check with the guys on the looks thing. wink.gif
jessegrl
At this point I would vote to have Lance Bass, Paris Hilton, Donald Rumsfeld, Rosie O'Donnell, Tommy Lee, Jenna Jamison, Richard Simmons, Michael Jackson, Kato Kaelin or even Paul Ruebens replace Govich. They can't do any worse that Govich. mad.gif mad.gif,
MimesisBTG
QUOTE (jessegrl @ Dec 5 2006, 03:46 PM) *
At this point I would vote to have Lance Bass, Paris Hilton, Donald Rumsfeld, Rosie O'Donnell, Tommy Lee, Jenna Jamison, Richard Simmons, Michael Jackson, Kato Kaelin or even Paul Ruebens replace Govich. They can't do any worse that Govich. mad.gif mad.gif,


Oh yeah! I can see Richard Simmons and Jesse L. Martin making an awesome detective team! wink.gif

(Although I do agree that Govich has gotta go!)
L&Owhore
Actually I'd be rather interested to see what Lance Bass would do with the role...
weethree
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
If you would like to see this cast change, add your reply. If you like things the way they are, rather than sniping at this petition, begin a petition to keep things they way they are. Then the network bigwigs can really gauge the situation.


Whine all you like, Farina isn't coming back and Govich isn't leaving.

The show is getting better each week and part of the reason is an improved cast, the old one was BORING!

BTW - " the bigwigs" LOL - always gage the situation every week and base it on ratings involving millions of folks - not on a few gals with time to spare on a message board.

Have a lovely day!
floridaRN
QUOTE (weethree @ Dec 5 2006, 10:51 PM) *
Whine all you like, Farina isn't coming back and Govich isn't leaving.

The show is getting better each week and part of the reason is an improved cast, the old one was BORING!

BTW - " the bigwigs" LOL - always gage the situation every week and base it on ratings involving millions of folks - not on a few gals with time to spare on a message board.

Have a lovely day!


"heavy sigh"

Those reading and comprehension scores are still way down for you aren't they Stalbert. sad.gif

Ok let's see words of two syllables or less.....

If you like her start your own thread and all who adore Ms. Govich can post there. You can talk about how hot she is and other things that warm the cockles of your heart. This thread is for those who do not like Ms. Govich as an actress ( blink.gif ) in L&O. (yes!! words of two syllables or less just for Stalbert!!!)

Seems we girls aren't the only ones spending time on the message board. A few guys with puppy love crushes hang out here as well. Is her poster on your wall???

cool.gif
hobbes310
QUOTE (weethree @ Dec 5 2006, 10:51 PM) *
Whine all you like, Farina isn't coming back and Govich isn't leaving.

The show is getting better each week and part of the reason is an improved cast, the old one was BORING!

BTW - " the bigwigs" LOL - always gage the situation every week and base it on ratings involving millions of folks - not on a few gals with time to spare on a message board.

Have a lovely day!



Fellow petitioners....pay no heed to these comments as they do not follow the intent of the thread. Please continue to respond as if the previous post was just "a tale/ Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,/Signifying nothing. (Mac. 5.5.29-31)"
L&Owhore
As a former mod, let me just say that the intent of this thread is for those who wish to petition for a casting change. It is not a place for debate. This is a petition. If you are against the petition the way to express that is by not posting here. A post in this thread is equivalent to signing this petition.
LaONut
Govich is akward and unbelievable in the Nina Cassady role. There is no chemistry and little rapport between Cassady and Green. She even makes Jesse's acting look worse. I didn't especially car for Farina's character role but at least he is an excellent actor. Govich has got to go.
dbj4823
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
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BRING FARINA BACK!! FAST!! Get rid of Govich NOW!! She's terrible!! Why do the producers of the Law & Order shows feel it has to be "Boy/Girl"? We can't have Jerry back...so get Farina!!!
smessaert
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 06:45 PM) *
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YES, YES, YES! I have stopped watching L&O because of the revolving door of cast members. I MOST DEFINATELY want Dennis Farina back!! Who's idea was it to put in this broad? LDH
Betty48
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 07:45 PM) *
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Definitely think they should get rid of Govich - I thought she was awful in the other NBC show she was in - how did she ever get in??? She may be a great dancer - & have a good singing voice - but she cannot act - I think Dick Wolf has a death wish for the show!!!!!! Feel sorry for the other cast members. I happened to like Dennis Farina - but if he had to be replaced I would have liked a male detective - this show is now just like the other Law & Orders - not "special"
Sooner
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Sooner
Yes, get rid of Govich. Why let someone on TV who can talk without using her lips? No enunciation at all. I have loved L&O but this is enough to make me stop watching the new shows. Even the bimbo playing the ADA is weak. Get someone who can talk. Dump the soft talking broads trying to act tough. ****, its better to watch a great show 4-5 times than watch a weak show once.
L&Owhore
wow I think calling the new ada a bimbo is taking it a little too far. Have some respect for the actress please.
Sooner
Yes, get rid of Govich. Why let someone on TV who can talk without using her lips? No enunciation at all. I have loved L&O but this is enough to make me stop watching the new shows. Even the bimbo playing the ADA is weak. Get someone who can talk. Dump the soft talking broads trying to act tough. ****, its better to watch a great show 4-5 times than watch a weak show once.
jordanriver
QUOTE
this show is now just like the other Law & Orders - not "special"


Hey, the others ARE special. Each one has their own "thing". That said, I'm not a big fan of Govich either. I would rather see Jesse paired with a male detective as well. Of course, Govich's "attractiveness" isn't just reserved for men *cough cough*, but I digress....I don't think I want Farina back though. *rubs chin* I wish I could see Jesse and Noth paired up together, but Logan's on CI (and I love him there). Lance Bass would actually be an interesting person to watch, but I don't think he could pull it off.
L&Owhore
QUOTE (jordanriver @ Dec 17 2006, 10:10 PM) *
Hey, the others ARE special. Each one has their own "thing".

The quote you quoted was in reference to having a man and a woman detective team. Betty48 was pointing out that L&O's all male team made it unique from the others, but now it has conformed to some sort of affirmative action for female detective roles that Wolf has imposed upon his shows.
jordanriver
QUOTE (ADAMaloney @ Dec 18 2006, 01:57 AM) *
The quote you quoted was in reference to having a man and a woman detective team. Betty48 was pointing out that L&O's all male team made it unique from the others, but now it has conformed to some sort of affirmative action for female detective roles that Wolf has imposed upon his shows.


Thanks, I figured that was the reason, but I figured I'd address it juuuuust in case. rolleyes.gif I wasn't all that miffed, TBH. smile.gif
Blueeyeskenai
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
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Heck...I'll sign that petition as well. She just is not cutting it. I know it's hard to replace Jerry Orbach...but lets face it, we were all getting used to Dennis being there.
k9kohl
I was first bummed when Jerry Orbach got moved to the new show which I guess is gone already. But when Dennis Farina was brought in I wasnt bummed any longer and now hes gone already and for that girl who is terrible. Bring Dennis Farina Back. I have stopped watching the show as its not very good anymore. If Dennis is brought back I will watch it again but for now its TNT reruns
k9kohl
Oh one more thing just because theres not many posts here doesnt mean there arent a lot more people who feel Farina need be back most people keep their feelings in and dont even know about this board. Does anyone know why Farina was replaced?
JOHNROWE
TO NBC LAW AND ORDER EXCECS:

PLEASE BRING MR DENNIS FARINA BACK EVEN IF IT IS JUST SEVERAL TIMES A SEASON. HE GIVES EACH EPISODE A TRUE SENSE OF REALITY. THE OTHER CAST MEMBERS SEEM FLAT AND MISS HIS STYLE. THE CAST ARE NOT CONNECTING WITH THEIR LOYAL AUDIENCE. POSSIBLE SCENARIO WOULD BE TO HAVE MR FARINA PLAY A SPECIAL AGENT THAT COMES IN TO HELP WITH REALLY TOUGH/COMPLICATED CASES.

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR VIEWING PUBLIC AND USE YOUR EXPENSIVE DEMOGRAPHICS TO GET YOUR PROGRAM BACK ON TRACK !!!
SINCERELY

FAITHFUL VIEWERS FROM THE MIDWEST
tremont
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 07:45 PM) *
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the character is badly written and badly played. I have never seen a less believable character in ANY of these programs. Is she sleeping with the producer, or what?
smessaert
WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO MAKE THE "BIG WIGS" at L&O take notice? We have a large number of people asking for Dennis Farina to be brought back, and for each person responding, it represents approximately 100,000.00 television viewers wanting the same thing. mad.gif I can't stand this new gal, Melena Govich, and I resent the constant revolving door changes they do on these shows - all the L&O shows. When you have something that works, you don't change it. Law & Order is right up there with MASH as far as loyal fans, and Dick is ruining a good thing. ARE YOU DEAF, DICK? THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING. PLEASE, PLEASE, BRING BACK FARINA!!!!
LenaBriscoe
QUOTE (mslmsmc @ Dec 4 2006, 03:46 PM) *
I agree. The new partner can't carry the show. She definitely doesn't measure up (in ANY way) to any of the major detectives on this show's long, great history. If they don't bring Farina back, they need someone WAY better than Govich. If not, this will definitely be the demise of the show. mad.gif


you see green needs someone to play off of and govich is not macho enough like for instance - the lieutenant or mariska hargitay or annabella sciorra (now there's another option). govish does not have the aggressive, assertive force of a Law and Order female force and I do wish she would not continue, but here's another scenario -- Jesse Martin partnering with Chris Noth. cool.gif
HarryBMcc
Heartily agree. And Noth's new paetner on CI is even worse! mad.gif
kitten448822
dry.gif The cast needs Dennis Farina back,Melena Govich needs to go she
doesn't play the part right. Not that shes a bad person in real life but
that Farina was a better actor.So the sooner shes off the show the better.
Barry_Smith
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 07:45 PM) *
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I agree completely. Since the days of Michael Moriarity and I have been a fan this long this is the worst change to the cast that I have seen. Dennis was right up there with Logan and Lenny!
kitten331
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
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If you cant bring farina back I still say Tom Sizemore would be great for Green's partner
AStarryNight
Even if Farina dumped L&O he should at least do an episode that shows him in in it. Like even if its 5-10 minutes of an episode. Govich needs to leave the cast shes bringing down the whole show. And if Farina doesn't want the show he starred in to go downhill [thanks to Govich]he should at least try and prosuade people to get rid of Govich.
I mean really
dfisher1
Thankfully, in the UK we're only on series 8 of the original series, so I'm still enjoying Briscoe & Green.

I haven't seen any of the latest episodes, but by the sound of it, its nothing to sing and dance about.
fla_deputy
Nope dont bring back "Dennis" bring back PAUL SORVINE ![i]
terryone
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, yes, yes, bring back Dennis Farina or at least a man or woman who is strong. Since the series began there has always been one of the detectives that was strong and opinionated. The show needs this. Angie Harmon would have made a great detective in that role.
terryone
QUOTE (LenaBriscoe @ Dec 29 2006, 11:51 AM) *
you see green needs someone to play off of and govich is not macho enough like for instance - the lieutenant or mariska hargitay or annabella sciorra (now there's another option). govish does not have the aggressive, assertive force of a Law and Order female force and I do wish she would not continue, but here's another scenario -- Jesse Martin partnering with Chris Noth. cool.gif

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I love that idea. Would be great for the show. L & O is the only TV show that I watch without fail, and since we can't have Lenny back give us a GOOD substitute
AStarryNight
[size="2"][/size]Farina is better than any substitute you would find anywhere.....
I Think............
isolde70
QUOTE (MimesisBTG @ Dec 4 2006, 10:47 AM) *
I understand Dick Wolf's reasoning in wanting to bring in a tough, attractive woman to play the role of the junior detective, but Goivch is just not convincing in that role. She distracts from the story and HAS to go if they want the show to survive. I would not mind if Farina returned, but I also would like to see them cast another actress who is better suited for the role...Connie Nielsen from SVU comes to mind.


I neither like nor dislike Govich on the show. She's just a non-entity for me. I do like that Ed is finally the senior partner, though. It's his time to shine, so to speak. I do agree that she just doesn't fit in well, but I'm not sure if it's the actress or the character that I don't like. Well, to be honest, as much as I like Dennis Farina in other roles, I didn't care that much for his Fontana. He wasn't bad, but I didn't love him. Maybe he just had the misfortune of following my beloved Lenny. Who really could ever replace him? Anyway, I think Beck (Connie Nielsen) from SVU would be GREAT teamed up with Ed. Good suggestion! I also wouldn't mind seeing Benjamin Bratt back in the house. I think the two of them could really bring some creative tension to the show. They could be butting heads one week and kicking butt the next! Of course, Munch from SVU would also be great and since they're not giving him anything to do over there.... Anyway, there's my 2 cents. And I'd love to see Alex back as McCoy's assistant. Since she's out of witness protection and all. But I guess that's for another board or topic. Sorry.
BBrowneyes2
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:45 PM) *
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I agree bring back Dennis Farina or cast Chris North back in the role and delete Govich. This actress can't act and the attire for this detective is wrong and not professional stick to the concept of the show,and the show is not about a low cut revealing breast detective. I have always like the concept of the olde detective with the young detective it worked as it did with Dennis Farina. I have tried to watch the show but I can't I just can't bear watching Govich her acting is horrible!!
babs502007
I'm not a message board joiner, but I found this site because I am so dismayed at this year's changes. I am a L&O addict (the original show only) - I watch the reruns constantly on TNT, have been glued to the TV every Wednesday night, and I sobbed when Jerry Orbach died. But I cannot watch the shows this season - I think they are terrible. The two new women that they have casted as the ADA and the sidekick to Jessie L. Martin are horrendous, and create absolutely no dynamic for the show. I can't stand to watch it anymore, so I don't. mad.gif I so hope they will drop Govich AND De La Garza and recast with the appropriate actors with talent to create the necessary dynamic that's needed. In the case of the detectives, they need an older man like Orbach or Farina - someone with the dry humor and experience to offset the youthfulness of Martin. Which is how it has been played since the show began. As for the DAs, with the exception of the first year or two, the ADA has always been a woman - for which I'm very glad. Hennessy & Harmon were ok, wasn't crazy about Rohm, and I loved Carey Lowell and Annie Parisse who both left way too early for my taste. Ah, well. Okay, I've stated my opinion - and many others by the looks of this thread. Sure hope TPTB take a look-see over here... blink.gif
AStarryNight
QUOTE (BBrowneyes2 @ Jan 22 2007, 10:15 AM) *
I agree bring back Dennis Farina or cast Chris North back in the role and delete Govich. This actress can't act and the attire for this detective is wrong and not professional stick to the concept of the show. I have always like the concept of the olde detective with the young detective it worked as it did with Dennis Farina. I have tried to watch the show but I can't I just can't bear watching Govich her acting is horrible!!



Exactly!!! L&O needs to let Govich go, but bring back Dennis Farina or Chris North. But if they can't do that they can at least take Govich off, and find a BETTER detective.

"maybe the producers should take a look at what we say a bit more to help the show"
melliemarv
100% agree...Govich should be gone....
cwilken
QUOTE (hobbes310 @ Dec 3 2006, 05:45 PM) *
If you would like to see this cast change, add your reply. If you like things the way they are, rather than sniping at this petition, begin a petition to keep things they way they are. Then the network bigwigs can really gauge the situation.


Yes!! Bring Farina back - the sooner the better. I don't know what NBC was thinking when they replaced him. Watching the reruns with him in them is great. Put my name on the petition to bring Farina back. Please!!
Patty12
QUOTE (carolw @ Feb 19 2007, 11:46 PM) *
Yes!! Bring Farina back - the sooner the better. I don't know what NBC was thinking when they replaced him. Watching the reruns with him in them is great. Put my name on the petition to bring Farina back. Please!!


Agree - the new characters are ruining the show.
sueschmitt
QUOTE (dbj4823 @ Dec 9 2006, 05:33 PM) *
BRING FARINA BACK!! FAST!! Get rid of Govich NOW!! She's terrible!! Why do the producers of the Law & Order shows feel it has to be "Boy/Girl"? We can't have Jerry back...so get Farina!!!


Oh I so very much agree with you that we can't have Jerry back. My hubby and I often talk about how they could possibly bring his character back in as a ghost cop of some sort but it would have to be computer done and something would be lost. We were thinking along the lines that Charmed did with the girls' grandmother and mother. That was another thing too we couldn't figure out other than Shannon Dougherty being kicked off the show was why they didn't bring Prue back? It took me a bit to like Fontana too but this gal just doesn't do anything for me. I'm not happy with the new time slot either.
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I definitely agree--Bringo D. Farina back, but I would be amazed if it happened! I really enjoyed the Fontana character in Law and Order. It was a good cast mix for the viewers.
The two new females cast members add little to the show.
Let me say it again-----bring Farina back!!
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