Will Max go with him?

These are the things I must know!!

Hi raymel1,

This is a question that has not been answered yet. Knowing what I know about The Tonight Show, I think that the show will move to Burbank. I, like Conan, grew up hating NYC and everything that it stands for, with its cultural elitism etc., but I guess there is a chance that NBC will find Conan a place in that city to do the show. But the access to celebrity guests in NY is not as high as in California, the promised land. So I guess we'll have to wait and see, though I really do think that NBC will dispatch Conan to the west coast in 2009.

SOJ

L.A. doesn't have an 'image' like NYC, in fact, it has NO 'image', when people think of the West Coast, they think Hollywood. Hollywood celebrities are dimwitted dimbulbs who talk about how they tripped and broke a fingernail and had to wear a bandaid and EVERYBODY wanted to know what happened -- the kind of prattle you can hear in any ladies' hair salon, all day long.

If Conan's going to CA, he better learn Spanish -- it's in the air!

LaLaMargarita

It may just be me, as I have never been to either NY or LA, but it seems to me, that Conan get's his "flavor" from being in New York. Granted, there are more Hollywood Stars in Burbank, but we all know where BROADWAY is.
I don't know that Conan's show would have the kind of Following of people, if it were done in LA.

Either place is suitable in my opinion, but I really don't see the Growth for Conan's Audience if he is indeed moved.
If it were music, Conan would easily be Billy Joel's, New York State of Mind, or even Italian Restaurant....while Jay Would be more of Randy Newman, I Love L.A. or It's Money that matters....

I guess I will probably be disapointed, at least at 1st, if Conan moves to L.A. the show just wont "feel right" to me, but then again, it's going to be a totally new show.....instead of Late Night with Conan O'brien....it will become The Tonight Show with Conan O'brien. Something there just doesnt feel right...Whatever happens, Ill be watching to see Conan O'brien whatever the show is called.

I dont think the "access" to celebrity guests really makes a difference. Conan has a TON of cool guests on right now anyways. I think I will be a little disappointed if he moves to LA, because it is... different. It just doesnt seem as exciting and full of life as NYC. I've been to both cities and I 100% prefer NYC. Even though that doesnt really translate to which would be a better place for talk shows, I think that Conan just BELONGS in New York. Plus it would be a good change for the Tonight Show. Its so boring now with Leno, so when Conan takes over I would expect it to be dramatically different. Funnier, for one thing, and hopefully in a new location.

Letterman will still be in NYC in 2009, thus Conan's goin to Burbank

For what its worth, I hope Conan stays right where he is, doing just what he has been doing with exactly the same people, Max and all. All I want is him on a bit earlier so I can catch him even when I have to get up earlier.

I don't see how what Letterman is doing or what the image of LA or NYC has to do with anything. NBC should know that when you have a good thing you don't change it.
-e

That may be putting too much faith in the #4 network and their ability to make a good decision, but I could be wrong.

Yes, Bob, this is a point I can't get these fan girls (oh, I'm sorry, "grrls") to see, but nobody listens to me on the Conan board anyway. As far as I'm concerned, Letterman's new contract keeping him in NYC until 2010 is the nail in the coffin for Conan in New York. I remember that Letterman was asked by CBS to consider a studio in their production center in LA, but the money spent on the Sullivan theater was overwhelmingly in favor of his show remaining in NYC. As I recall, Bob, you in particular had an objection to Letterman doing his show from a proscenium stage instead of a broadcast studio.

SOJ

SOJ - I'm sorry that you feel the fan girls aren't listening to you. When it comes to the NYC vs. LA dilemma, I think alot of people are in denial and are reluctant about Conan/the show moving from NY. In reality, all signs are pointing towards Conan going to LA. We even know Conan has been house-hunting in LA, and he asks alot of people (on the show) what it's like to raise kids in LA, so those 2 things are probably the best proof of all.

Oh, we're listening to you, SOJ. I know that Conan will end up in LA and it breaks my heart. So, as long as I can continue to say "Oh, well it hasn't been announced, so I don't know for sure!" I'll do so. I know there's no chance NBC will keep him out in NY because his successor will be there. I won't ever get to see the show in person but there are plenty of tourists willing to pack that Tonight Show audience every night. So don't think that us fan girls aren't listening to you. We're like an ostrich - see something you don't like and stick your head underground and hope it goes away. (And I don't mean you are what we don't like, I mean the Conan in LA thing)

I hope he stays in New York. I reeeeeally hope he stays in New York.

I will be sad if he doesn't.

SOJ Im so sorry, I do listen, I just really, really dont want it to be true. I want to keep that hope alive that maybe, just maybe he might stay in New York. We all know he's going to LA, I know noone said anything definite yet but we all know its coming. But part of me is still keeping that little hope alive until they actually say 100% Conan is moving to LA. So until then I cannot accept or listen to anyone, it crushes the hope!

I don't want Conan to move. He belongs to be in NY. I just can't see him in LA. And he's far enough now so he doesn't have to move any further. NY is a much more interesting place.

Well, for the doubters, here's a glimmer of an answer. Not that I trust everything (or much of anything) that Page Six says, but Conan is house-hunting in L.A. Link here:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06112007/gossi...id_pagesix_.htm

I've said all along this would happen, but I thought I'd let everyone know so we can get the wave of complaints out of the way and start thinking about what the future of Conan's TV career will be.

And let the NY lovers' complaints begin:

Hmmm..... maybe he's doing that like just in case?? I mean, he just bought a new penthouse in NYC.

And if you're a rich celeb like Conan, I think it's reasonable to have a home on both coasts (where else could he put all his money in anyway??)

....right everyone?? RIGHT??

It was confirmed that he was in LA sometime during the dark week of May 26th, if this fan story by "doctorkananga" is correct: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005277/board/nest/70693921?p=2

But I don't believe anything about the Tonight Show until it is confirmed by a real source, like Conan or NBC. I think he's just looking for a house in LA, not necessarily to live for the Tonight Show, but just to have when he visits over there, since most celebrities have a place in both NY and LA. It has not been confirmed that he will do the Tonight Show in LA, so I'm not making any assumptions.

does any one know if Andy will be joining him at the tonight show?

There's no for sure on anything surrounding "The Tonight Show" yet, but I would doubt Andy's return as Conan's sidekick

It would be awesome but like Severina says it is doubtful. Andy wanted to move on and do his own thing, so going back to being Conans sidekick would be returning to his old state of mind.

Pat

My thoughts exactly

(emphasis mine)

Aren't you? I just don't think that a $25M mansion would be for stopping over for visits, do you?

I'm also kind of astounded at the level of incredulity that some people have about Conan owning a $400 shirt or being able to buy a $25M house. I mean, the guy is a big TV star--what do you think, he's making $100K a year? If you could afford to own a $400 silk shirt, wouldn't you buy one? I mean, I felt lucky when I went to T.J. Maxx the other day and found a black and blue striped silk shirt on the clearance rack for $12. It's a size too large, granted, but it's for informal wear, anyway. (I got my latest driver's license picture taken wearing the shirt. It looks a lot more expensive than what I paid for it.)

Sorry if I sound like I'm angry, I just wonder how realistic some of the fans on the board are about the level of bank involved in show business. All those commercials and on-air endorsements aren't for nothing. For the millions Conan makes every year, he's making more for the network, or else they wouldn't have made him Jay's successor. Am I right?

I will say, though, that Conan gave up making Leno and Letterman money to get The Tonight Show. Fox reportedly offered him about 20 mil to jump ship for their network the last time Conan's contract was up. But he passed it up to have a chance at getting a show with a lot of history and class. Doesn't that say something important about Conan?

SOJ

Hmm. I'm detecting sarcasm.

$25 mil for a stopover house.

SOJ

Conan having a $400 shirt for the office doesn't seem as incredulous as it does vain, wasteful, and ridiculous. But I also think everyone should wear tie-dye or rainbow shirts, patchwork skirts, and sandals (including Conan) ... so maybe I'm not the best person to ask. I don't like the frills, baby! I think most of us are aware that Conan's salary is well into the land of 7 figures, even though he'd like us to believe otherwise with all the "12:30am doesn't bring the scratch" jokes. Jay & Dave are at ~$30 million a year or some such insanity.

And yes, Conan turning down a huge wad of money to hypothetically do the "right" thing and stay with NBC does say something good about him. He is a decent guy, despite a slight obsession with his vanity.

p.s. Is your birthday coming up, SOJ?

I really don't care if he has 18 closets full of $400 shirts. I know he's got more money than he knows what to do with, and he should spend it however he chooses since he worked for it. What I find ridiculous is the fact that he pointed out that the shirt cost $400. So Koman rips the shirt and Conan says, "D.amn it, you @ss! This is my favorite shirt!" that's understandable. Koman rips the shirt and Conan says, "D.amn it, you @ss! This shirt cost $400!" That's vain (good word choice, LNG!) Even if he didn't realize he was doing it, it's kind of a jerk thing to do considering he was probably within earshot of people who have trouble making their rent payments every month and live paycheck to paycheck.

It kind of implies that he does only have the one of them though!
I know if I had one thing that cost an absolute fortune and someone wrecked it I'd at least point out that it was very expensive!
Though he does seem slightly like a jerk if he's not careful

Right, I know Conan has more money than he knows what to do with. One piece of clothing is the last thing I'd be spending $400 on in his situation, so I guess I don't get it. And I wouldn't go around telling people a shirt cost $400, but he probably said that to make Koman feel guilty if for no other reason. If he said it to brag (which I doubt), that would be conceited. Don't get me wrong, he deserves everything he's made because he is so hardworking and has changed so many people's lives (cliched but true). But like Sev has pointed out in the past, he has a tendency to do things on TV that make it appear he's excessively concerned with himself, such as constantly looking at himself in the monitors. Would it even be possible for a guy with hair like that NOT to be vain? He's just a tad in love with himself, but I've also heard people in showbiz say everybody in showbiz is. Something I don't like is how Conan acts a lot more self-important now than he did, say, 10 years ago, and his ego is much more inflated (at least in his "act").

What this has to do with Conan "taking over" The Tonight Show, I'm not sure.

I think there's a 50-99% chance that he was kidding when he said that it was a $400 shirt.

I think it's fantastic that Conan has $400 shirts and can afford a $25 mil. house, I see nothing wrong with that, he deserves it.

It bugs me when people assume that he'll be in LA for the Tonight Show, nothing has yet been confirmed. That's what I was talking about. I wasn't being hypocritical. If people think that he's buying a house in LA just for the Tonight Show, I find that irritating. My assumption of him just looking for one in LA because most celebs have a house on both coasts is nothing like the assumption of him doing the Tonight Show in LA. I was being reasonable, and going with the present facts given. I think that the only thing we can safely assume right now is that he just wants a place on both coasts, since no one is giving out information about the Tonight Show yet. So I don't think my assumption should be compared with the assumption that he'll do the Tonight show in LA, they're totally different.

I see a lot of good points in this thread, but all I can say is that it would be great if when Conan takes over the Tonight Show, they come out with a DVD collection of all the Late Night years. That way, if nothing else, the fans can always watch the good old days.

I really hope they do that!! I'm so mad that I didn't start watching until 2005. I missed so much good stuff!!

You know, I really had let this go, but if you read back over my post, I never once called you a hypocrite. HOWEVER, now that you mention it, it becomes clear to me that it actually is hypocritical in a way. You object to the "assumption" that Conan is moving to the West Coast to host The Tonight Show, but then you replace it with an unconfirmed assumption of your own? They aren't different assumptions at all. Your "annoyance" only applies to other peoples' assumptions, but your own so-called "reasonable" assumptions somehow escape scrutiny? And where exactly did I say this this is proof of any sort? I explicitly said that I don't always believe Page Six. I'm no logician, but this just doesn't add up, at least to me.

I used to do this to my students who would complain when I took off points for not following directions: you show me where the things you claim happened actually happened.

SOJ

achhkk. I didn't mean to start a fight or anything, let's just remember that this is all about the Conan/Late Night lovin'. sorry to cause a stir

Hey, sorry, I wasn't really replying to you, I was replying to conansmypimp.

SOJ

It would be a shame to lose Conan to LA. The show's NY audience is what makes it so great. I don't like the LA audience. Plus, Conan is an NY guy not an LA guy. I hope he really does leave NBC and moves to another network to avoid this situation.

Gaia Rose,

If I were you, I wouldn't worry. This isn't like Letterman assuming that he'd be offered the show once Johnny retired. Conan has very publicly been made the heir to the throne. Very publicly and very officially, I might add--I think that the world would be shocked if, in 2009, someone besides Conan gets The Tonight Show.

For a much more level-headed analysis of this situation, I'd suggest you link here:

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2007/06...real_motiv.html

I don't often plug Aaron Barnhart, frankly because of his he||-bent Letterman bias, but in this case, he's actually got a great take on the Jon Stewart situation.

My own personal theory goes like this: Jon Stewart wants an 11:30 pm show on one of the major networks. He's been building his career up to an 11:30 show forever. I think that this is a carefully planned ploy to get his name out there in the industry press, so Les Moonves at CBS or Bob Iger at ABC will wake up and say, "I've got to have this guy to compete against Conan in 2009." I personally don't believe that Jon Stewart would take a 12:30 am show--let's face it, that would probably be a terminal assignment for Mr. Stewart at this stage in his career, and who the heck else would be a viable competitor with Conan? Do you really think that Jay or Dave would win long-term against Conan? Even I don't think that, and if you know me, you know how significant a statement that is. CBS is the likely place that a Conan competitor will go, since after all, Dave won't be there forever, and that network is in the middle of a boom phase right now. As far as late night TV goes, there are really only two networks in the U.S. that have any history of success, with NBC being the obvious #1 and CBS the close second. I think that Jon Stewart is trying to force a deal out of CBS, and perhaps by extension, Worldwide Pants, Letterman's production company. I think Jon Stewart figures that now is the time to make his move.

So, yeah, read Aaron Barnhart. He's got the scoop.

SOJ

Conestoga O'Bronsky is DYING to get to the West Coast, just like Letterman who bought property at Point Dume to be near Johnny Carson in anticipation of hosting the Tonight Show.


Pernod

I know this doesn't exactly fit this thread, but putting it elsewhere risks publicizing an earlier misunderstanding...

Ben Silverman, the new head of Entertainment at NBC, came out with the message, again, that Conan will indeed replace Jay in 2009. And, just as I had predicted earlier, they say they're looking for something for Jay in primetime, Mr. Leno being an important asset to the network. Perhaps Jay will pull a Steve Allen.

SOJ

Perhaps this would be more appropriate elsewhere, but in all this talk about Conan taking over the tonight show, it's got me thinking about the board. I'm guessing it will just be deleted / replaced.

It was random thinking, I know, but it just made me think of it.

I would like to see that happen, and we all know he sure isnt going to be able to have his own tv show evidently. He has tried numerous times.

I really hope they don't go to LA. LA is so tan and icky. If they had to go to a city in California I wish they could go to San Franciso that is a cool town. New York is such a good place for that show. You know that the audiences in LA would totally not be as good as in other more interesting cities. Chicago would be cool, I think. Now that this has popped into my mind I can not get it out of my head if Conan did the Show from New Orleans. He could even have a crazy float in the Mardi Gras Parade. He is Catholic, it might be a perfect match, or the biggest mistake of his life. ehe.

Hi SonOfJoel,

Thanks for posting the article about Conan O' Brien, --that he will definitely be taking over the Tonight Show in 2009. That cleared up a lot of strange speculations. -Also your comment about Jay, well, here again, you're right as usual. Thankssssssssss for the updates.

Hi Sssarui!!!!! Hey, I don't think Conan has a choice where he goes to do the Tonight Show. --Expect him to continue the Tonight Show tradition, that Johnny Carson started since 1972, by hosting it in LA.
I bet you would love LA, there are places there that are so beautiful with so much Hollywood history to see- which is a must see for me.

I forget about all the Hollywood history and every thing there. What ever the case I know that Conan will make the show his own and add his own flavor to every thing.

ps
carrot

From "After 'Tonight,' will Jay stay at NBC?: Execs want Leno to remain at network - Variety - July 20, 2007

"...NBC is in talks with O'Brien and his staff on a move from Studio 6A at 30 Rock to Los Angeles. NBC latenight and primetime EVP Rick Ludwin believes O'Brien and much of his staff will ultimately make the move, though there has been some resistance. Johnny Carson brought the show to L.A. 35 years ago and Ludwin says the original reasons for the move are still relevant: a bigger studio and proximity to stars. A final decision on the move is expected early next year..."

They talked about this in Hot Topics on "The View" today. It was kind of annoying because they were just saying that Conan was getting the $40 million pay-off, without stating that is was a rumor. Then they compared it to Walter Chronkite (however you spell it) and Dan Rather. Like suggesting that Leno has many more years in him to do the Tonight Show. But the opposing argument was that they should get the younger guy (Conan). I just can't stand all of this speculation. I'm not gonna believe anything until NBC officially announces it.

I think every one who watches Late Night Agrees whole heartly with that statement.

This calls for a new poll! yays.

Did you see the pole, it is unanimous 100% that Conan should stay in New York. NBC stop shooting yourself in the foot on this!