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CityRoamer
Of course, I mean how much the fictional characters make, not the actors!

Here are the current job titles (and extra, possibly useful, information):

Michael Scott: Regional Manager (company car, bought a condo)
Jim Halpert: Assistant Regional Manager (now drives a Saab 9-2X as of S03E12)
Dwight Schrute: Sales Associate (unofficial #3 in Scranton Branch)
Pam Beesly: Receptionist (drives a blue Toyota Yaris)
Ryan Howard: Junior Sales Associate
Angela Martin: Accounting Supervisor
Oscar Martinez: Accountant (drove Saturn ION, but now drives a silver Lexus RX - company lease, lives in house with boyfriend Gil)
Kevin Malone: Accountant
Stanley Hudson: Sales Associate
Phyllis Lapin: Sales Associate
Andy Bernard: Regional Director in Charge of Sales (Sales Associate, but higher pay scale)
Meredith Palmer: Customer service/Purchasing
Kelly Kapoor: Customer Service Representative
Creed Bratton: Quality Assurance
Roy Anderson: Dock Worker
Jan Levinson: Corporate Manager
Toby Flenderson: HR Representative

Also keep in mind the following: Sales reps also work on commission, so the number of sales and value of them will affect their final income. Also consider the location of the office, Scranton PA. Someone could possilbly look up the financial stats of the area and figure out what the median incomes are for those occupations in that part of the country!

Look forward to hearing everyone's educated responses!
Roy_Anderson
sales are usually based on commisions, so it isnt salary.
mixedberries_1
Well didn't Jim say when he met up with Michael and Dwight at the convention that he had make 40K while at Stamford? That was about 4 months. Not bad.
poorman'sMichaelScott
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Jan 22 2007, 10:50 PM) *
Well didn't Jim say when he met up with Michael and Dwight at the convention that he had make 40K while at Stamford? That was about 4 months. Not bad.

I thought he said I've sold 40,000. I always thought that would be 40,000 reams or boxes, whatever of paper.

I just checked the Robert Half Salary Guide. So, I calculated for Pennsylvania. And I figured that Angela had been there 5 years, Oscar 4, and Kevin 2. Angela and Oscar's was a guess, but I'm thinking that Kevin was Tom's replacement. Angela as head accountant would probably be making $62,000/year, Oscar $52,000 and Kevin $43,000. Now, this is all an estimation, because we don't know what kind of salary they were making prior to coming to work for DM. I've never heard of them use any kind of titles other than "accountant" or "head accountant". So, I went with the spreadsheet based on "General Accountants". I hope this is detailed enough. And can I just say that I have WAY too much time on my hands! wink.gif
mixedberries_1
QUOTE (poorman @ Jan 22 2007, 08:54 PM) *
I thought he said I've sold 40,000. I always thought that would be 40,000 reams or boxes, whatever of paper.

Yeah, I guess he said I sold 40 thousand. But 40 thousand what?
poorman'sMichaelScott
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Jan 22 2007, 11:04 PM) *
Yeah, I guess he said I sold 40 thousand. But 40 thousand what?

That's the million dollar question. Do they count boxes or reams. And what is a ream? Hopefully it's not dollars, because the commission on that can't be very much, and I would like to believe that Jim is doing pretty well. Especially after he went to Stamford.
mixedberries_1
QUOTE (poorman @ Jan 22 2007, 09:16 PM) *
That's the million dollar question. Do they count boxes or reams. And what is a ream? Hopefully it's not dollars, because the commission on that can't be very much, and I would like to believe that Jim is doing pretty well. Especially after he went to Stamford.

Well a ream is one pack of paper like you buy at *cough*staples*cough*. Then there are 5 or 6 reams in a box. I would imagine they count boxes. But they're selling all kinds of paper products, and other office stuff too. Hmmmmm,

Writing paper measurements:
500 sheets = 1 ream
25 sheets = 1 quire
20 quires = 1 ream

So Jim could have been talking about 40K units (boxes), or 40K worth of products. I'm not sure anymore. huh.gif
Great_Philanderer
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Jan 22 2007, 11:04 PM) *
Yeah, I guess he said I sold 40 thousand. But 40 thousand what?


I wondered that myself. Dwight seemed pretty impressed so I'm guessing that Jim racked up some pretty impressive commisions this year. Add that to the extra pay he's getting for being ARM and it sounds like Jim has done well this year. I would say that Dwight has also done well because it's stated several times that he's the top salesman. Jim and Dwight probably are the top two earners amongst the sales dep. As for Andy's "Regional Director in charge of Sales" title, I got the impression that it was a meaningless title like Dwight's so he's not making anything "extra". Judging by his questionable sales ability dry.gif I'd say he isn't lighting the world on fire with his commisions either. Pam probably is near the bottom of the list in yearly earnings. She seems like a very good, hard-working efficient receptionist, but she's still a receptionist and they just don't make alot. That's yet another reason that she's wasting her life in that dead-end job is a tragedy. I don't think Roy makes alot of money either, which is just another reason why he's an idiot for buying wave runners when him and Pam should have been saving their money.
mixedberries_1
QUOTE (Great Philanderer @ Jan 22 2007, 09:23 PM) *
Pam probably is near the bottom of the list in yearly earnings. She seems like a very good, hard-working efficient receptionist, but she's still a receptionist and they just don't make alot. That's yet another reason that she's wasting her life in that dead-end job is a tragedy. I don't think Roy makes alot of money either, which is just another reason why he's an idiot for buying wave runners when him and Pam should have been saving their money.

Oooooo, just remembered, Pam/Jenna, and Roy/David put their salary ranges on their MySpace pages if I remember correctly. Checking . . . .
mixedberries_1
Okay, the only two who still have income info. on their pages are:

Roy: less than 30K /year

and

Creed: less than 30K / year
Great_Philanderer
I wonder who does better in general, the sales reps or the accountants?
blue_blast
QUOTE (poorman @ Jan 22 2007, 11:54 PM) *
I thought he said I've sold 40,000. I always thought that would be 40,000 reams or boxes, whatever of paper.

I just checked the Robert Half Salary Guide. So, I calculated for Pennsylvania. And I figured that Angela had been there 5 years, Oscar 4, and Kevin 2. Angela and Oscar's was a guess, but I'm thinking that Kevin was Tom's replacement. Angela as head accountant would probably be making $62,000/year, Oscar $52,000 and Kevin $43,000. Now, this is all an estimation, because we don't know what kind of salary they were making prior to coming to work for DM. I've never heard of them use any kind of titles other than "accountant" or "head accountant". So, I went with the spreadsheet based on "General Accountants". I hope this is detailed enough. And can I just say that I have WAY too much time on my hands! wink.gif



wow, you did a great job with the estimations. remember the time michael asked angela to "find $50k in the books" and they ended up finding it right there in their own group? i think your figures average about $52k-ish.
mixedberries_1
QUOTE (blue blast @ Jan 22 2007, 09:43 PM) *
wow, you did a great job with the estimations. remember the time michael asked angela to "find $50k in the books" and they ended up finding it right there in their own group? i think your figures average about $52k-ish.

I think he asked for 40k, and that included benefits. Someone else out there might know what portion that would be, but more than 5 and less than 10k? Leaving 30-35k for salary?
blue_blast
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Jan 23 2007, 12:49 AM) *
I think he asked for 40k, and that included benefits. Someone else out there might know what portion that would be, but more than 5 and less than 10k? Leaving 30-35k for salary?



not to be extraordinarily picky, but it was $50k. let's give the accountants some $$$!
CityRoamer
Yes, good memory mixedberries / blue blast... Michael did mention to find about $50K in "Halloween Party". Nice job poorman going on the salary site. I wonder about the 40 thousand in sales too. Wasn't sure if he was talking dollar amounts... because when Michael had the little "sales competition" when Jim had to sit in the other room, he used dollar amounts on the white board to compare the sales.

Checking the myspace pages was a good idea too... it's just the actor's guestimate of course, but better than nothing.
poorman'sMichaelScott
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Jan 22 2007, 11:32 PM) *
Okay, the only two who still have income info. on their pages are:

Roy: less than 30K /year

and

Creed: less than 30K / year

I would think that the warehouse guys would be on hourly pay, and you would have to be making over $14/hour to make over $30K. I think it would be hard to get that in a warehouse, though I'm sure Daryl does better, because he's the manager.
mixedberries_1
QUOTE (blue blast @ Jan 22 2007, 10:02 PM) *
not to be extraordinarily picky, but it was $50k. let's give the accountants some $$$!

Oops! My bad. wink.gif
CityRoamer
I was just watching my Season 2 DVD and I noticed that on "Conflict Resolution", when Dwight is telling Jim about the Sales Manager position in Stamford (a very big moment for the show, right!)... there is a one second camera shot on Dwight's screen... it shows all the job postings and on the right-most column it LISTS the SALARIES. For the Stamford Sales Manager job, the salary was $50K. I guess this means there is no commission involved, since it's a managerial position, but not bad. Explains how Jim now drives a Saab 9-2x in season 3!

There were other positions too, like Plant Manager and other jobs... some were 40K and some were 50K. The shot is quick so it's tough to make out what they exactly say. They also show the job description on the top of the screen...!
Great_Philanderer
QUOTE (CityRoamer @ Feb 3 2007, 10:29 PM) *
I was just watching my Season 2 DVD and I noticed that on "Conflict Resolution", when Dwight is telling Jim about the Sales Manager position in Stamford (a very big moment for the show, right!)... there is a one second camera shot on Dwight's screen... it shows all the job postings and on the right-most column it LISTS the SALARIES. For the Stamford Sales Manager job, the salary was $50K. I guess this means there is no commission involved, since it's a managerial position, but not bad. Explains how Jim now drives a Saab 9-2x in season 3!

There were other positions too, like Plant Manager and other jobs... some were 40K and some were 50K. The shot is quick so it's tough to make out what they exactly say. They also show the job description on the top of the screen...!


Good catch. Sounds like Jim is doing pretty well these days. However I think that was his base salary and Jim gets a comission on top of it because he is still selling paper on a daily basis.
Cate the Great
I think that Andy should make $0 a year. He doesn't deserve to be paid -> to eat -> to live.
BrokenBrain
Didn't Stanley say on pretzel day that his daughter goes to private school? Those aren't cheap. Of course I guess his wife could be a brain surgeon or something.
rocker creed
I thought about this thread for awhile.

I believe that Daryl would be one of the top 3 or 4 positions at Scranton. He seems to be responsible for all aspects of the warehouse, including personel.

HIGHEST PAID

1. Michael - easy choice here
2. Jim - being groomed for exec job at a later date
3. Daryl
night
The whole thing about Darryl not getting above a 5% raise because Corporate didn't want him making more than Michael, and considering Michael said he worked there, I think *14* years, and NEVER asked for a raise... hmmmm. I wonder how much the Michael and average employee over there makes if supposedly, they're not supposed to make more than Michael... or was that just in Darryl's case?
receptionist
Well, we also have to take into consideration--are any employees HOURLY?

The only ones who would DEFINITELY be salary are the managers/supervisors (Michael, Jim, Darryl, Angela), and Toby, because he's corporate.

Ryan started as a temp, so I'm sure he started as hourly. Whether his permanent position meant he obtained a salary position is questionable.

Sales aren't necessarily salary. There may be an hourly rate plus commission for non-managorial positions like those held by Phyllis, Stanley, Karen, Dwight, Ryan and Andy.

Kelly could also be hourly, because she's customer service. I'm almost betting Pam is hourly. I would also say that all the warehouse people (except Darryl) are hourly.

Now what about Oscar, Kevin and Creed? Because they're supposed to be "qualified" for accounting, I would say that Oscar and Kevin are salary. Creed? Well, he's quality assurance, right? I'm guessing hourly. Just for fun.

The only thing that sets off this little theory is that no one has ever mentioned time cards or "clocking in". I wonder if the writers have thought about this.

I'm just assuming that at a "mid-sized paper company" like DM would not have all salaried positions, ya know? Based on the average company, salary positions usually come with one of the following:

1) experience in the field, though not necessarily time at that company
2) qualifications (a degree or certificate of some kind)
3) time worked at a company via promotions (promotion to manager, for example)

IF the following people are hourly, I would gess these are their rates:

Pam=$12-14/hr
Kelly=$13-15/hr
Creed=$15-20/hr
Sales Dept=$15-25/hr depending on experience + commission

We also have to take into consideration that they live in a small town in Pennsylvania. They're on the east coast, which in some places means the cost of living is lower. In other places, however, like New York, cost of living is astronomical. I'm coming from the West Coast, so I don't know all that much about cost of living in Penn. If they were in the midwest or the south, it'd be a whole different story!

Thoughts?
Win-Win-Win
QUOTE (receptionist @ Apr 12 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Well, we also have to take into consideration--are any employees HOURLY?

The only ones who would DEFINITELY be salary are the managers/supervisors (Michael, Jim, Darryl, Angela), and Toby, because he's corporate.

Ryan started as a temp, so I'm sure he started as hourly. Whether his permanent position meant he obtained a salary position is questionable.

Sales aren't necessarily salary. There may be an hourly rate plus commission for non-managorial positions like those held by Phyllis, Stanley, Karen, Dwight, Ryan and Andy.

Kelly could also be hourly, because she's customer service. I'm almost betting Pam is hourly. I would also say that all the warehouse people (except Darryl) are hourly.

Now what about Oscar, Kevin and Creed? Because they're supposed to be "qualified" for accounting, I would say that Oscar and Kevin are salary. Creed? Well, he's quality assurance, right? I'm guessing hourly. Just for fun.

The only thing that sets off this little theory is that no one has ever mentioned time cards or "clocking in". I wonder if the writers have thought about this.

I'm just assuming that at a "mid-sized paper company" like DM would not have all salaried positions, ya know? Based on the average company, salary positions usually come with one of the following:

1) experience in the field, though not necessarily time at that company
2) qualifications (a degree or certificate of some kind)
3) time worked at a company via promotions (promotion to manager, for example)

IF the following people are hourly, I would gess these are their rates:

Pam=$12-14/hr
Kelly=$13-15/hr
Creed=$15-20/hr
Sales Dept=$15-25/hr depending on experience + commission

We also have to take into consideration that they live in a small town in Pennsylvania. They're on the east coast, which in some places means the cost of living is lower. In other places, however, like New York, cost of living is astronomical. I'm coming from the West Coast, so I don't know all that much about cost of living in Penn. If they were in the midwest or the south, it'd be a whole different story!

Thoughts?


I totally agree with your projected hourly rates they get. And I agree with the the people you listed would be hourly, not salary. As well as who you think would be salary. smile.gif

Since Scranton is between Philadelphia and New York, the cost of living really isn't that low. (I live in Philadelpha, BTW) Like all smaller east coast cities (believe it or not Scranton is a city, and it has it ghetto areas!) it has differing cost of rent and living expenses depending on what part of town you are in. Lower rent and cheaper food in the bad part of town and more expensive stuff in the nicer parts. Cars and other life necessaties would be on par to what stuff cost me in Philadelphia I would think.

Although I know Sranton is cheaper then Philly or New York, its just not a totally cheap place to live. (Compaired to the Midwest and parts of the South)

Hope that makes sense!
bubblewrap_1
From MSN Careers:

Real-World Salaries of Your Favorite TV Characters


Pam Beesly, "The Office" -- Receptionist
Real-life median salary: $23,120, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)

Although Pam is the object of her co-workers' affections, she can rest assured that the men who love her aren't gold diggers. Luckily, she lives in a small Pennsylvania town where her petite paycheck stretches a bit further than it would if she lived in, say, Manhattan.



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