Nymphette
Jan 28 2007, 11:05 PM
No offense to anyone who likes cigars, but i'm getting really tired of seeing Frank smoke a cigar in practically EVERY episode. Does he think he looks cool or something? Because he doesn't.
And doesn't he know that smoking is bad for you? I don't know why he's endorsing it on national television.
curmudgeony
Jan 28 2007, 11:09 PM
Post deleted: Rude
crackberries.com
Jan 28 2007, 11:26 PM
Just wait. He is going to try and get some kind of endorsement deal with a cigar company after this is all over. I can't remember if I have seen him actually smoking one. Seems like he just has it with him a lot...
Very_Disappointed_Viewer
Jan 31 2007, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Nymphette @ Jan 28 2007, 11:05 PM)

No offense to anyone who likes cigars, but i'm getting really tired of seeing Frank smoke a cigar in practically EVERY episode. Does he think he looks cool or something? Because he doesn't.
It's a phallic symbol. Little man, big cigar. Makes him feel better about himself.
Very_Disappointed_Viewer
Jan 31 2007, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (Nymphette @ Jan 28 2007, 11:05 PM)

And doesn't he know that smoking is bad for you? I don't know why he's endorsing it on national television.
Again, very bad choices being made by the editors and/or producers. This season definitely caters to a much lower class than previous episodes: tents, playboy bunnies, laker girls, cigars, etc... The majority of viewers do not want to see this crap. We want to see more of the tasks, more professionalism. The next episode includes bees! This show is quickly turning into a morphed version of the real world + survivor + fear factor instead of trying to retain it's dignity. If this continues, it will lose most of it's professional viewers (a large part of the audience) and it will be cancelled.
J17
Jan 31 2007, 01:28 PM
OK there are hundres of thousands of smokers out there all over the World, some who are very, very young. Do you think they don't know smoking is bad for them?
Some people smoke becasue they are addicted, not because they think it looks "cool" but because their body needs it.
Some people enjoy a nice cigar after a victroy or an accomplishment.
Maybe some other people don't like the way other candidtaes appear on television, but there is no reason why Frank can't smoke a cigar.
Pedroff
Jan 31 2007, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (Nymphette @ Jan 28 2007, 11:05 PM)

No offense to anyone who likes cigars, but i'm getting really tired of seeing Frank smoke a cigar in practically EVERY episode. Does he think he looks cool or something? Because he doesn't.
And doesn't he know that smoking is bad for you? I don't know why he's endorsing it on national television.
Watch it, you're insulting George Burns and his memory.
maggiemac
Jan 31 2007, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (Pedroff @ Jan 31 2007, 01:32 PM)

Watch it, you're insulting George Burns and his memory.

And Groucho Marx !!!
Nymphette
Jan 31 2007, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (J17 @ Jan 31 2007, 01:28 PM)

OK there are hundres of thousands of smokers out there all over the World, some who are very, very young. Do you think they don't know smoking is bad for them?
Some people smoke becasue they are addicted, not because they think it looks "cool" but because their body needs it.
Some people enjoy a nice cigar after a victroy or an accomplishment.
Maybe some other people don't like the way other candidtaes appear on television, but there is no reason why Frank can't smoke a cigar.
That's fine, but Frank is spotted holding a cigar in every single episode! Not only after a victory but also after every one of his losses. It's annoying. I haven't seen any of the other contestants act that way. Also, he may enjoy his cigars but he should realize that he is on a television show and try to set a better example.
Ken in NJ
Feb 5 2007, 06:51 AM
It's No Random Luck Cigars Are Inserted Into Apprentice ShowsPossibly Bill Rancic has
coached Frankie The Mouth and The Editors to do product placement for his cigar company. Just a thought.

As the rest of Arrow prepare for the boardroom battle ahead, they get a call informing them that The Donald has cancelled the session feeling that no one else deserves to be fired. Though they're still outside in the tents, it's a happy day for the remaining members of Arrow Corporation.
downpuppy
Feb 5 2007, 09:21 AM
I think we're all missuing a clue here. Derek & Carey are openly gay, Martin probably.
Is Frank's cigar telling us that Burnett stuck The Donald with 8 gay males?
If Trump figures it out, it will be the highlight of the season.
signnprincess
Feb 5 2007, 11:33 PM
HA maybe he thinks hes bill clinton oh wait did bill actually smoke his cigars LOL I soooo dont wanna know
kallmekammy
Feb 6 2007, 04:49 AM
www.cigarsaroundtheworld.com is the first Apprentice company, you can buy cigars on line there, maybe that is the connection.
downpuppy
Feb 8 2007, 09:57 AM
Red Auerbach died a few months ago.
With those manboobs, Carey should have modeled a women's suit.
Nymphette
Feb 11 2007, 10:10 PM
There was a shot of Frank and his stupid cigar again in this episode.
yoeric
Feb 11 2007, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (Nymphette @ Feb 11 2007, 10:10 PM)

There was a shot of Frank and his stupid cigar again in this episode.

Yes, but is cigar is getting shorter and shorter. See any symbolic image?
Ken in NJ
Feb 11 2007, 10:48 PM
rboden
Feb 12 2007, 02:08 PM
Whatever Frank does is definitely annoying especially when it pertains to his mouth. I personally hope he sticks something in his mouth so as to keep it shut. His tobacco laced drivel seems to intoxicate Trump though. Frank is a bonafide tool and perhaps throat cancer is just the kind of comeuppance he needs.
Nymphette
Mar 5 2007, 09:35 AM
QUOTE (Objective Observer @ Feb 12 2007, 02:08 PM)

Whatever Frank does is definitely annoying especially when it pertains to his mouth. I personally hope he sticks something in his mouth so as to keep it shut. His tobacco laced drivel seems to intoxicate Trump though. Frank is a bonafide tool and perhaps throat cancer is just the kind of comeuppance he needs.
GOOD POINT!
Last night's episode was filled with shots of Frank and his stupid cigar. I couldn't believe it when he started rapping while holding a cigar and dancing (or whatever he was doing

). He just looked so ridiculous. This guy gets weirder and weirder by the minute!
goheidigo
Mar 5 2007, 12:00 PM
Snoop Dog seems normal compared to ol' Frank.
The cigar has GOT to go. If he can leave it behind in the boardroom, he can leave it behind all the other times. He doesn't even smoke it; just holds it! Freud could have a field day with THAT one!
DebinCT
Mar 5 2007, 01:46 PM
QUOTE (Objective Observer @ Feb 12 2007, 02:08 PM)

Whatever Frank does is definitely annoying especially when it pertains to his mouth. I personally hope he sticks something in his mouth so as to keep it shut. His tobacco laced drivel seems to intoxicate Trump though. Frank is a bonafide tool and perhaps throat cancer is just the kind of comeuppance he needs.
First let me say I don't like Frank and haven't from the beginning. And, I agree they should edit out the cigar smoking.
Having said that, my mother had throat cancer, yes from smoking, from which she died. As with most cancers, it is a horrible disease and not something I would wish on anyone, even someone I did not like.
JaeMD
Mar 5 2007, 02:11 PM
QUOTE (Downpuppy @ Feb 5 2007, 09:21 AM)

I think we're all missuing a clue here. Derek & Carey are openly gay, Martin probably.
Is Frank's cigar telling us that Burnett stuck The Donald with 8 gay males?
If Trump figures it out, it will be the highlight of the season.
I agree. I think something fishy is going on with this season's male Apprentices. There are definitely more gays this season than what's been already confessed. Take, for instance, that former Olympian (Angela). She is more butch than most of the guys this season, especially Aaron, who's already been fired. By the way, I thought Aaron was the biggest closet case the show has ever seen. (No offense, but I have to call it how I see it.)
Hotlead
Mar 5 2007, 05:50 PM
Frank thinks Frank is "cool". Frank is an obnoxious loud-mouth who should have been fired way back in Week #1. I'm tired of looking at his ugly face.
YourJustJealous
Mar 5 2007, 10:49 PM
WOW!! Such hate here...Poor frank. Well actually not poor frank lol!! He is the one on the apprentice and he is the one making everyone discuss him. Its great!! There are so many threads here about him. Im glad you guys are focusing on him weather its bad or good...Hes on your mind so he is doing something right.
And I thought him rapping last night was the funniest thing ever...Atleast he wasnt putting on a show for the camera he was being real,He had a few drinks and was enjoying himself weather he looked silly or not he didnt care he was just being him.
I do think that there is alot of shots with him and his cigar..But what can you do? If he smokes them he smokes them. Also you dont see him smoking them during tasks and the task filiming probably takes about 1 week or 2 so I am gonna give my guess in saying that he probably only smokes 2 per week or maybe one per week...Hes only showed smoking them when its boardroom time.
(O & Im pretty sure when you smoke a cigar you dont inhale them,Well your not supposed to anyways)
Nymphette
Mar 20 2007, 02:51 PM
BUMPING - because Frank still sucks. When will this guy get fired already? I think it's a disgrace that talented people like Marisa and Surya are gone while this waste of space is still annoying North America on the show every week. Oh well, at least I haven't seen any shots of him smoking recently.
QUOTE (YourJustJealous @ Mar 5 2007, 11:49 PM)

He is the one on the apprentice and he is the one making everyone discuss him. Its great!! There are so many threads here about him. Im glad you guys are focusing on him weather its bad or good...Hes on your mind so he is doing something right.
Quite frankly, it's the opposite. He is doing a lot of things WRONG. Yeah people talk about him, but not for the reasons one would want to be talked about.
QUOTE
And I thought him rapping last night was the funniest thing ever...Atleast he wasnt putting on a show for the camera he was being real,He had a few drinks and was enjoying himself weather he looked silly or not he didnt care he was just being him.
See, when I watch the Apprentice, I do so to be entertained and watch mature, professional adults partake in various business tasks. I don't watch it to see a half-drunk middle aged man smoking and dancing like a lunatic. If that is just Frank being himself, then I feel sorry for him. He could learn a thing or two about presenting himself in a dignified manner on international television.
Hotlead
Mar 20 2007, 05:15 PM
I think ol' Frank's just a dolt, period. Cool Frank. LoL. I think Frank tries to make a joke of the entire show. He spends more time trying to be funny than he does worrying about his team winning.
Ken in NJ
Mar 20 2007, 09:06 PM
Frank Creates Drama And Diversion
He's the meathead that brings laughter to Team Arrow.
Here Frankie The Mouth talks about putting in funny scripts for Soft Scrubs webisode.
YourJustJealous
Mar 21 2007, 04:17 PM
Okay
1 if its like you said, "i dont want to watch.." then dont! lol. He is enjoying himself and making the situation and show fun for himself and the others. I think its much better then having a stressful situation and keeping it that way.
2 Dont you ever see people in hollywood? ANY press is better then no press! lol..Good or bad....Your name is in the press so who cares. lol
And I think itsss funnnnyyyy when he was drinking and rapping soo..
<3
vICKY.HA HA
Ken in NJ
Mar 21 2007, 07:44 PM
Frankie Loves Partying And Rapping
<<< And I think itsss funnnnyyyy when he was drinking and rapping soo..>>>

Here Nikki having a great time partying. When they were in the Rapper studio, Frank acted as though he'd already had a few of the drinks he was holding. He danced a little jig and waved his cigar to the hiphop beat.
Snoop told James that he could go ahead and free-style, since he looked as though he had been "dying to freestyle" all night. James gamely tried to rap; it was about as hip and happening as a pet rock. But Frank, who began by saying "fo shizzle my dizzle," was even funnier. His rap about wanting a million dollars was so bad that he was good, in a strange way.
Nymphette
Mar 21 2007, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (YourJustJealous @ Mar 21 2007, 05:17 PM)

1 if its like you said, "i dont want to watch.." then dont! lol.
I do want to watch. I just don't want to watch him. That's why i'm hoping he'll get fired, so I won't have to anymore.
QUOTE
2 Dont you ever see people in hollywood? ANY press is better then no press! lol..Good or bad....Your name is in the press so who cares. lol
The thing is, this is not Hollywood! Frank is auditioning for a job interview, so the "any press is good press" saying does not apply. You want to put your best foot forward, and come across in the best possible light. Do you really think Donald Trump is going to hire a drunken, cigar-smelling fool like Frank to run one of his companies? I think not.
Ken in NJ
May 22 2007, 05:37 PM
Life After Apprentice: Frankie Goes Backpacking And Runs Away From Home

Frankie hitting the trail
and away from Mom's Apron String.
QUOTE
TVG: Do you think the editing gave us a fair picture of who you are?
FL: I have no problem with the way that came across. I know a lot of people that were unhappy with how they came across, but… I'm Frankie. I'm a down to earth, bottom line, type guy. I got a big heart. I'm the type of person that if you're good to me, I'll do anything for you. So if I came across in that light, as somebody who's just happy all the time and will do good by people, then they gave me a fair edit. If I came across as different to you in any way I guess they didn't.
TVG: Do you think Mr. Trump might still offer you a job?
FL: A lot of people ask that. There's a chance he might. And if he did, then I would have to see what the offer was. I love business at home in New York, I buy properties and I develop them. So for me to go ahead and leave it would have to be worth my time, because I do well for myself at home. But listen, if I had an opportunity to go on his sites and learn how to build skyscrapers alongside his team and work with him, if all the cards were right, of course I would take the opportunity.
TVG: So now that this is over, what are you going to do now?
FL: I'm starting a project that I just purchased in Yorktown, a 7,000 square foot commercial retail space I'm putting up right from the ground. We're knocking down an old lumbar yard. Once that gets going and the crew's going, I think I'm going to go to Europe this summer, for 10 days. Just go by myself, backpacking. I've never been there before. I'd really like to go check it out, and have some time alone to look back and just take it all in.
* source:
http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Exc...k_AD.htm?isfa=1
TabbyR
May 24 2007, 10:08 PM
Ya, we discussed Frank backpacking through Europe all alone, lol.
We tried to come up with a gal for him to take... but your comment just now made me think of something different...
Maybe going alone will be good for him. Help him mature and grow his character. Become more independent....?? I dunno.
You and those apron strings, NJ, oy-yoy-yoy... LOL.
Or maybe he could call up Ivanka...

... the last lady cast member left...
(Hey -- check out the new faces...

... cool)...
Ken in NJ
May 25 2007, 06:27 AM
Are They Cringing Faces Though?
How about this?

Trump cringing
No more Season 7 Apprentice, hmmmmmmm
She's not Frankie's type.....

Just using him....

Frankie growing up.....


Frankie takes a longer maturity cycle

Still living at home age 30
Ken in NJ
May 27 2007, 09:19 AM
Frankie Seems Gay
He has no main squeeze.Sometimes he smokes a cigar; sometimes he hangs around the weirdest people. But certainly he projects a different image, living at home, going backpacking and doing weird stuffs.
He's projected as a tough dude after edited and loves to play pranks. Are those his original ideas or provoked by Apprentice handlers and producers? Here Frankie hugs one of them. hmmmmmm.
< -- Just Click Here to enlarge photo
TabbyR
May 28 2007, 06:28 PM
As I've previously stated, I don't think Frank is gay, so much as awkward prolly.
He seems to be extremely affectionate with women. Grabbing a$$es, putting his leg across Nikki's lap, rubbing Heidi's feet... etc, etc, etc...
And he hugs everyone - male or female. I'm the exact same way, actually. And people sometimes misunderstand that and read too much into it for sure, lol.
I like that pic, btw. He looks so happy.
Ken in NJ
May 28 2007, 07:26 PM
About That Lingering Question

I really don't care either way if Frankie is gay or not.
That's his choice and like you said he could be misinterpreted. For that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

That stupid cigar again. If he wants to confirm or deny that, it's all up to him. Does he look happy in this picture?

Trump in Wrestlemania, nothing but an exhibit, was
$$$$ all an act for a couple of million cash.$$$ But the more important question left was the search for the cringing face. Was the previous photo on target to your satisfaction or not? How about Trump's cringe about season 7?
TabbyR
May 28 2007, 09:28 PM
LOL, the problem with the faces you've shown is that the eyes are open. The eyes need to be closed. Just picture someone watching an accident happen and they close their eyes and grit their teeth. They WINCE, they CRINGE. They shrink a bit, recoil a bit. I can't find a picture of it myself.
>.<See, the eyes are crucial. They comprise most of the make-shift cringe face I'm using. The mouth doesn't matter as much. The eyes are tightly closed coz the person just can't bare it...
I appreciate your efforts though!! lol
Ken in NJ
May 28 2007, 11:43 PM
TabbyR
May 30 2007, 05:38 PM
Nope. Those faces aren't right either, lol. Surely you've seen someone wince as if in pain! It's like that.
Ken in NJ
May 31 2007, 04:55 PM
This Getting More Difficult Than I Thought
How about Kristine painfully observing Trump in Boardroom?
TabbyR
May 31 2007, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (NJ Debater @ May 31 2007, 04:55 PM)

This Getting More Difficult Than I Thought
How about Kristine painfully observing Trump in Boardroom?
NO! Eyes closed, silly. Eyes closed. ^.^
Ken in NJ
Jun 3 2007, 09:21 AM
A1 Amy Henry Cringing At Villain Omarosa
Working with people you don't like
She maintains a professional appearance up front, but underneath that smile she's peddling like a duck.

Amy kicking Omarosa under table.
QUOTE
"Maintaining friendly, respectful relationships with people you dislike is the most political type of networking. Many women will not do it because they don't understand that there is a difference between a friendship and a business relationship. Socially, we can pick and choose with whom we spend our time. At work, we should be less picky. I see
too many women let their personal feelings about coworkers interfere with their ability to work productively with them. They believe that, in order to collaborate effectively, they must like their colleagues. And respect them. Forget it. The chances of you liking everyone at your office are minute. The only solution - other than blatantly refsing to work with someone - is to figure out a way to develop a tolerable relationship so you can collaborate and work effectively together.
On The Apprentice, one of the other women who didn't care for me personally (Katrina Campins) called me manipulative and criticized me by saying that I used relationships to try to win the game. Of course I used relationshps!
I may not have liked Omarosa, another contestant, as a friend but I worked well with her and recognized her professional strengths."
* St. Martins Press (page 29 to 30)
Okay, I think I got
that perfect kodak moment for you.....
Cringing face?In Season One Apprentice,
the producers paired up a popular protagonist with an ambivalent antagonist. 20.0 million people watched the #8 episode's initial airing February 26,
2004 . Despite the big numbers, the installment
came in at No. 11 on the weekly charts, still NOT NUMBER ONE. Amy was paired with Omarosa because Heidi felt that Amy could deal with her the best. Heidi didn't have much confidence in Omarosa, saying that she couldn't "sell her way out of a paper bag." Amy might handle working with Omarosa the best, but Omarosa still drove Amy nuts.
The two agreed that Omarosa would market and that Amy would deal with the numbers. But at three separate meetings, Omarosa jumped in during the discussion of numbers and offered to sell only a small quantity of cases. While Omarosa apologized each time, from Amy's point of view, Omarosa kept turning potentially large sales into small ones.
* source: nbc. com
He won't bad-mouth Frankie in front of others
In A6 Surya knows that he doesn't have to like Frankie and his cigars but he nevertheless worked well in managing a disaster waiting to happened.
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