EverybodyHurts
May 4 2007, 02:14 PM
Hmm..I have a hunch that that particular bra and panty will soon become VS's WORST selling items.
*shun!*
queenofengland
May 4 2007, 02:38 PM
QUOTE
Women's Appreciation Scene Wager Rules:
A Karen scene consists of Karen being "active", ie, speaking a line, giving a look or having a talking head.
If there are 5 or less Karen scenes, Queen of England wins the wager
If there are 5 or more Karen scenes, Ms. Pam Halpert and unshun win
The loser of the wager must have a Karen or Jaren positive signature for one day (that's 24 hours) AND come up with a list of 10 great things about Jim's girlfriend, Karen Fillipelli (5 of which must come from the WA ep).
The winner(s) get to post 10 reasons why Pam is better than Karen.
10 great things about Karen Fillipelli
five compliments from Women's Appreciation:
1. Karen stood up for the women of Dunder Mifflin, saying that they deserve respect
2. Karen was genuinely sympathetic to Michael and wanted to help him with his problem
3. Karen bought something feminine and frilly to wear for Jim (and I actually didn't think the color was that ugly. It was kind of fun and silly, in a playful kind of way. Besides, do guys really care about the color that much?)
4. Karen gave Michael good advice (that Jan's behavior was "not healthy" and to "be strong")
5. Karen has a good sense of humor (she showed the email from Ryan to Jim)
and five general compliments:
6. Karen is beautiful
7. Karen has a playful and fun personality
8. Karen has great taste in men
9. Karen speaks French beautifully
10. Karen tolerates the madness and chaos around her much better than I ever could
and as for my sig, please note the time: 12:38 pm. The 24 hours begins now.
EverybodyHurts
May 4 2007, 02:44 PM
Good job coming up with the 10 things. Of course #8 is the best one by far.
queenofengland
May 4 2007, 02:49 PM
^ thanks EverybodyHurts!
d***. I know I've complimented you on this before, but once again I just spent five minutes staring at your avatar. It has hypnotized me.
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 03:17 PM
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ May 4 2007, 08:33 AM)

okay, guys I have used up all of my time.... I have to hang up my hat and turn off my computer
I shall come and look here! And I might be able to end exams a day earlier!! SO yeah!!!
I am sure no one will have a melt down this week, but if you do just do watch this episode agian
sigh, now the big challange is not to start screaming GO PAM during my finals!! I do take my test in a testing room alone, so I might have to do a happy dance once in a while just to get it out of my system!! YEAH!
kay

sniff ( why is it so hard to leave? )...

Good luck Pam H! I hope your finals are the prettiest finals of them all!
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ May 4 2007, 10:45 AM)

Me too, my husband now knows how truly obsessed I am and asks me how my "e-friends" are. I think he thinks I am weird, but I keep explaining that it's harmless, fun and doesn't cost any money!! Thank goodness we all have each other!
My hubby calls it my part-time job and wished I got paid for it!
I agree, though, harmless fun and free! It can't get any better than that.
QUOTE (Two Toasters @ May 4 2007, 01:30 PM)

hi all! first let me say i don't post on these boards much, but i read them quite religiously :-) anyway i just want to start by saying i LOVE LOVE LOVE this thread. you all make me smile :-) one of the other threads i read daily is on another board and reading it this morning I was shocked at how utterly pessimistic people are over JAM. people think Jim is over Pam? and that Jim and Karen will be in a long distance relationship? WHAT? (none of that is actual spoilers but just speculation a lot of people are having, but thought i'd cover it up just in case.) i started to wonder if they all saw a different episode last night than i had. all i saw last night was foreshadowing of good things for JAM. and i come here and HOORAY! you all saw the same things, it wasn't just me being crazy! y'all are seriously my BFFs :-)
Welcome Two Toasters! I like your screen name and hopefully one day there will be a need for a Three Toasters screen name when Jim and Pam get married!
This is a place of positivity. It's all about the JAM. We can be as crazy obsessed as we want and get support for it.
Speaking of crazy, did anyone love Michael calling Jim "James" last night. I just get little butterflies thinking of him as a "James". Oh, James!
QUOTE (QueenOfEngland @ May 4 2007, 02:01 PM)

Yes, I'm just sorry that it has to be done here, in your lovely thread. As soon as I can come up with 10 nice things to say about her (it might take some time) I will, just please don't throw garbage at me, people. It will be against my will. Same goes for the new sig that will be debuting shortly.
(BTW, I absolutely HATE that I have never even had a JAM sig and now I have to put up
a Jaren sig

)
You chose the perfect sig because although you are saying "Don't throw garbage at me", it can be taken another way. I see it as Karen saying "Don't throw garbage at me". But too bad, Karen! I've got a big bag of trash to throw at you right now, so watch out!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (khand3stooges @ May 4 2007, 03:01 PM)

Well this is my first post on this board. I am a newbie to the show. My boys finally got me to watch it a couple of weeks ago and I proudly say I have watched all of them many times! I love Jim and Pam sooo much. I was thrilled to find this place to come and gush about them. I have been reading for a while and finally decided to join. Season two for me was so magical. It has been a long time on t.v. where two people have captured me the way they have. Season three has been hard to watch but with all of your encouraging thoughts I have hope Jam will happen again. I just hope the writers can see that chemistry like that doesn't come along that often.
Welcome to the sharing circle! Gush away!
It's great to have more positive people in here who are ready to share the sorrow and the joy that is JAM.
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 03:23 PM
Great job on the list, Queen.
Karen is all of those things and she is a lovely girl. I'm sure she'll make someone in NY very happy one day.
CrushOnJim
May 4 2007, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ May 4 2007, 03:17 PM)

My hubby calls it my part-time job and wished I got paid for it!

I'm sure my husband thinks the same thing. During the show last night I said, "I see some JAMMY goodness on the horizon" and he looked at me like I was an alien (Blgaaaah). I had to explain the term JAM to him and he just shook his head at me. I told he can't give me too much crap though, because I have endured endless speculation and comments about the NFL for
YEARS.
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ May 4 2007, 03:23 PM)

Karen is all of those things and she is a lovely girl. I'm sure she'll make someone in NY very happy one day.
Love this!!
queenofengland
May 4 2007, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ May 4 2007, 01:23 PM)

Great job on the list, Queen.
Karen is all of those things and she is a lovely girl. I'm sure she'll make someone in NY very happy one day.

Ditto that!
officeobsessed
May 4 2007, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (ladama @ May 4 2007, 12:59 PM)

Here's the clearest picture I could get. I think they purposely hide the label so they didn't have to ask yoplait permission or something.

All I can make out in the picture is that the label is red. And of course, the look of adoration on Jim's face at Pam's poster.

And I'm I the only one that thought the brief elevator scene was perfect the way it was?

So much said in that 2 seconds.
Thank you for posting these screen caps. I'm going to have to head over to the grocery store and find out what color lid 'Mixed Berries' Yoplait yogurt has. I am thinking blue, but I'm not 100% sure.
And everyone who said the elevator scene was pitch perfect as it was..I concur. It spoke volumes! No dialogue necessary(Think Jim and Pam in the elevator in The Secret.) I love the smile Jim gave Pam, but why is Karen smiling? Resignation? I don't know.
QUOTE (HereComesTrouble @ May 4 2007, 01:09 PM)

Also, anyone else think Jim looks fantastic! His hair looks much better, and none of those chapped lips or puffy eyes. yes, looking mighty nice, James.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Hot, smoldering Jim is
almost back! Once he
loses the
girl he will have the sparkle in his eye again and he will be perfect and spectacular again!
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 04:31 PM
Man, Sexy Jim was the first thing I noticed, and I had to watch the episode over agian because he distracted me! His hair ( sometimes it looked real, and at other times it looked like a wig, but a much better wig) This radical change in all His features and they way he dressed, really shows me that this was all planned to show Jim's internal struggle.. IMO just look at him in that elevator, he almost looks just like his good old sexy self! Just one more thing to make him complete his "Pam" smile, and his sparkle! ( remember the newpeat scenes, how suddenly he looked really good! Yeah that also tells me that Jim looks are just the good detail in our awesome show!!!) Can't wait until the finale to see if those sleeves are rolled up on his shirt!
Queen! Awesome list! they are all true, and sometimes we need to appreciate the ones we dislike as well! ( as for that sig... I am SO SO SO glad it is only 24 hours!!) We will have to figure out the next bet soon!!
That kitchen scene where Jim sees Pam's flyer, just speaks volumes, you can almost hear the rumble of his wall starting to break! It was just a very real and emotional moment, and If we were moved by that, well I just don't know what we are going to do if tears are shead from Jim or Pam.
Just had a very icky exam, I started it at 2 and I got done around 5... So it was really nice to come here and read this thread, it made me smile!! Thanks!
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 05:03 PM
Oh dear, I just saw something that made me a tad concerned... I mean, well, I think it is more of a hoax you know pulling us off the trail, but I just don't think the writers would do that! That Kristen on E did this before, last year I think...she is an evil mistress that one

I just don't understand why they would do that it seems sloppy
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 05:07 PM
Pam, you're scaring me!
*stomps feet and covers ears*
Jim loves Pam, Pam loves Jim, Karen can go sit on a pin.
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 05:11 PM
^ Shhh.. I will get to the bottom of this, really it just does not sound like something the writers would do. I must say if it is true, I will lose a tad of faith in the writers.
They should know how the season is going to end, I guess we will find out in the 14th....sigh, why did I come on my computer in the first place??
I am confused now, I really should just not read anything!
herecomestrouble
May 4 2007, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ May 4 2007, 05:11 PM)

^ Shhh.. I will get to the bottom of this, really it just does not sound like something the writers would do. I must say if it is true, I will lose a tad of faith in the writers.
They should know how the season is going to end, I guess we will find out in the 14th....sigh, why did I come on my computer in the first place??
I am confused now, I really should just not read anything!
Is this spoiler info that is bothering you?
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 05:17 PM
^ I don't know if it is a spoiler or not.. half of it is common Knowledge, the other half, I don't know what to make off.. I don't think it is a spoiler but maybe it is.. I am really confused to be honest.
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ May 4 2007, 06:11 PM)

^ Shhh.. I will get to the bottom of this, really it just does not sound like something the writers would do. I must say if it is true, I will lose a tad of faith in the writers.
They should know how the season is going to end, I guess we will find out in the 14th....sigh, why did I come on my computer in the first place??
I am confused now, I really should just not read anything!
C'mon, Pam, you've got to be strong like your namesake. Stop looking at spoilery things! Get out there to the mall and buy yourself a hot pink robe, change a tire, turn James' head with a Wanted poster.
You can do it!!!!
Oh, and for the next while I am going to refer to Jim as James because I just love the sound of it.
I know, I'm crazy. Last week I was excited by Jwight, this week it's James. I guess I'm into role play. Phyllis says it can be fun, so I don't feel so bad.
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 05:22 PM
I love that Michael called him James!!! I find it sexy as he!!
I am not sad, I swear! My brain in just all used up, so it comes off sad! I am just confused!!! There is a difference!!!!
No doubt, Jim loves Pam, Pam loves Jim!!! And soon they will both know ( because if they don't well there will be some crazy fans out there

)
JAM is out there I can see it!!!! No need to fear!!!
herecomestrouble
May 4 2007, 05:28 PM
I know what you are refering to and it is all a ploy my friend. We all know who is the last one from Stamford to get an oompa loompa song and it goes like this: *cue oompa loompa music*
Oompa Loompa doopidee doo
I've got another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doopedee den
This is the end of Jim and Karen.
What do you get when you act like a hag?
Beating a good man to death while you nag?
Why must you take Pam away from her Jim?
Don't you know she's the one for him?
(It couldn't be more obvious)
Oompa loompa doopedee dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me
Oompa loompa doopedee dee
Take your ***** @ss to New York City!
hollystangland
May 4 2007, 06:00 PM
^^^ Very cute, HCT!
Don't be discouraged by little spoilers or promos...remember how the commercials for Phyllis's Wedding made us all think they were going to actually "give the people what they want"? and then the opposite happened. So any promo that you see that is pessimistic about JAM is actually a good sign!!
jamonmybread
May 4 2007, 06:12 PM
I posted this in the blooper/mistake thread, but I wanted to share it with you guys!
Hey guys! I just found a part in the new episode "Women's Appreciation" where Jim is laughing under his hand. It's that part when Toby walks in at the beginning and Michael asks him to show his privates. Michael then says as soon as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew it was wrong... Look at Jim! He is trying really hard to muffle his laughter and hide his smile! He is too much
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 07:23 PM
haha.. HTC!! Funny!! Thats what I said at first so a ploy to rattle our bones.. they did it last year as well!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (jamonmybread @ May 4 2007, 07:12 PM)

I posted this in the blooper/mistake thread, but I wanted to share it with you guys!
Hey guys! I just found a part in the new episode "Women's Appreciation" where Jim is laughing under his hand. It's that part when Toby walks in at the beginning and Michael asks him to show his privates. Michael then says as soon as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew it was wrong... Look at Jim! He is trying really hard to muffle his laughter and hide his smile! He is too much

I will be looking for that as I rewatch WA tonight!
Oh that James. He does appreciate a good joke.
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 08:09 PM
Oh Beeswax I really like seeing your sig and my new sig back to back.. it makes me squee!!
loveanyway
May 4 2007, 08:18 PM
^Pam...I LOVE your signature!!!! I was a puddle on the floor after that scene. Anyways, I just noticed something (it's funny how that happens after you watch something for the 100th time?) Jim never takes his eyes off the flyer. He even walks backwards away from the fridge.
officeobsessed
May 4 2007, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (loveanyway @ May 4 2007, 08:18 PM)

^Pam...I LOVE your signature!!!! I was a puddle on the floor after that scene. Anyways, I just noticed something (it's funny how that happens after you watch something for the 100th time?) Jim never takes his eyes off the flyer. He even walks backwards away from the fridge.
Hey loveanyway, I just noticed that too!!! I was watching PH's signature and thinking the same thing! It's as if he's just longing for Pam.
loveanyway
May 4 2007, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ May 4 2007, 08:16 PM)

Just watched The Office JAMmed of "The Carpet" on youtube and those 7 voicemails at the end.....*sigh*

I just had to tell someone!
One of my favorite Jam moments EVER!!
The look on Jim's face KILLS me. every. time.
_pamcasso_
May 4 2007, 08:30 PM
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ May 4 2007, 09:20 PM)

Hey loveanyway, I just noticed that too!!! I was watching PH's signature and thinking the same thing! It's as if he's just longing for Pam.

Sort of like when he turned Karen to watch Pam walk out of the room in Phyllis' Wedding.
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 4 2007, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ May 4 2007, 09:09 PM)

Oh Beeswax I really like seeing your sig and my new sig back to back.. it makes me squee!!
Yes! They make one delicious pot of JAM.
I have to go and watch that ep again. So many things I missed!
Oh, and how did you get that sig so fast. Is it a Darth Shrute? You must have some hold over him.
unshun
May 4 2007, 09:42 PM
Awesome episode. I just got back from work and the first thing I did was watch the episode - twice. Then I fired up the computer to see what was cooking on the JAM threads. As always it has been great fun to read all of your posts. Queen you did an awesome job with the list for Karen, they were great.
I was wondering about Michael's wishes. In the shot of Michael throwing the coins in the fountain only Pam and Phyllis are with him. He must have told them what he was doing. The fact that his wish for Phyllis was a Plasma TV suggests he solicited their inputs for what he should be wishing for. You all see where I am going with this. Pam asks for courage. (Go FNB she knows what she wants and she is mustering her strength to go after it.) I also think Pam suggested the wishes for Angela and Kelly. It strikes me as her sense of humor, it masks the significance of her wish from Phyllis, and it goes totally over Michael's head. I realize I am wait out on a limb here. I doubt we will ever get proof one way or another, but the thought makes me happy.
queenofengland
May 4 2007, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (unshun @ May 4 2007, 07:42 PM)

Awesome episode. I just got back from work and the first thing I did was watch the episode - twice. Then I fired up the computer to see what was cooking on the JAM threads. As always it has been great fun to read all of your posts. Queen you did an awesome job with the list for Karen, they were great.
Thanks unshun! I'm counting down the hours till I can take down my sig.
Remember, you and Pam Halpert get to list 10 reasons Pam is better than Karen. At least that should be easy!
QUOTE
I was wondering about Michael's wishes. In the shot of Michael throwing the coins in the fountain only Pam and Phyllis are with him. He must have told him what he was doing. The fact that his wish for Phyllis was a Plasma TV suggests he solicited their inputs for what he should be wishing for. You all see where I am going with this. Pam asks for courage. (Go FNB she knows what she wants and she is mustering her strength to go after it.) I also think Pam suggested the wishes for Angela and Kelly. It strikes me as her sense of humor, it masks the significance of her wish from Phyllis, and it goes totally over Michael's head. I realize I am wait out on a limb here. I doubt we will ever get proof one way or another, but the thought makes me happy.
Unshun, I totally didn't even consider that! I'm usually the one thinking that the speculation here goes too far, but I think you're on to something here! You're right, a Plasma TV for Phyllis is extremely specific. I could totally see Michael asking them what they would wish for, and just the idea that Pam might wish for courage gives me chills! I love it! Great catch! We may never know for sure, but either way it goes, whether it was Michael's insight or Pam's wish, it was such a great voice-over. One of my favs.
Pam_Halpert_1
May 4 2007, 10:26 PM
Oh Darth and Me we have an understanding!!!
I am going to be posting less and less so i thought i would give you guys something AWESOME to stare at!!
Now I could watch this vid for a very long time!!!
Now.. I am grumpy, I got woken up from my sleep, and then come on here to find a spoiler on the front page!
I am going to watch my sig and have happy thoughts
Edit: Hey I just noticed that my sig and advatar are related.. both are of Jim saying Pam's prank was great!! and see what he is wearing!!!!

I love James
sedimentary
May 4 2007, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ May 4 2007, 10:26 PM)

Oh Darth and Me we have an understanding!!!
I am going to be posting less and less so i thought i would give you guys something AWESOME to stare at!!
Now I could watch this vid for a very long time!!!
Now.. I am grumpy, I got woken up from my sleep, and then come on here to find a spoiler on the front page!
I am going to watch my sig and have happy thoughts
Edit: Hey I just noticed that my sig and advatar are related.. both are of Jim saying Pam's prank was great!! and see what he is wearing!!!!

I love James
Pam Halpert...you have the best signature...I love it!!! And yes, I did notice both your avitar and sig he is wearing his awesome blue shirt.
By the way, I got on the NBC website and got blasted with a promo...that I was not expecting and I am not sure how I feel about that. HMMMMMM...is it Thursday already?
Fancy_New_Beasley
May 4 2007, 11:33 PM
I saw that promo too and it made me curious. I didn't expect Pam to make any declarations in front of everyone... But I also know promos are notoriously misleading, so I'm not going to read too much into it. I am wondering what everyone else thought, though.
herecomestrouble
May 4 2007, 11:44 PM
NoNoNoNoNoNo! I dont want to know! I am dying to watch the promo! But I am trying to stay "pure." Is is a must-see? Or is it just frustrating? Is Jim naked? Cause if so, I am there.
queenofengland
May 4 2007, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (Fancy New Beasley @ May 4 2007, 09:33 PM)

I saw that promo too and it made me curious. I didn't expect Pam to make any declarations in front of everyone... But I also know promos are notoriously misleading, so I'm not going to read too much into it. I am wondering what everyone else thought, though.
FNB, is that line about
Pam making declarations a spoiler? If so, it should be in spoiler brackets. I'm not trying to be a nazi, it's just that we're having a mass crisis on the spoiler AA thread. I need all the help I can get!
QUOTE (HereComesTrouble @ May 4 2007, 09:44 PM)

NoNoNoNoNoNo! I dont want to know! I am dying to watch the promo! But I am trying to stay "pure." Is is a must-see? Or is it just frustrating? Is Jim naked? Cause if so, I am there.
(in my best Angela voice) People! Remain calm! Do not panic! And HCT go on over to the spoiler AA thread STAT.
STAT means Now!!!!!!!!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 5 2007, 05:59 AM
This isn't the Spoiler AA Thread, but spoilers may set you back on your road to JAM enlightenment.
I can't tell you what to do, only you can help you.
All I know is that the only spoiler I've ever seen was a picture of Pam and Roy in the diner from The Negotiation. It made me feel dirty and uncomfortable. Is that how you want to feel?
Pam's talking head about Jim's "privates" was a shocking and hilarious moment from WA because I had NO idea it was coming. Knowing about it would have ruined the moment. Nothing feels as good as experiencing a fresh, unspoiled episode of The Office.
I've posted this before and I'll do it again.
Spoiler spoilers are no fun
Spoiler spoilers hurt someone
unshun
May 5 2007, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (QueenOfEngland @ May 4 2007, 10:50 PM)

Remember, you and Pam Halpert get to list 10 reasons Pam is better than Karen.
Here is my list of Ten Reasons Pam is better than Karen.
1. Pam always looks good, not just from behind.
2. Pam’s pranks are way more fun than “Call of Duty”
3. Pam knows how to change a tire
4. Pam can tease her Officemates, but is always there for them when they need her. (Angela, Dwight, and Michael have all leaned on her)
5. Pam is the Macgyver of the Office. Honestly, Olympic medals out of yogurt tops, and hand towels out bathrobes.
6. Pam can improvise and take Jim’s pranks to a higher level.
7. Jim describes Pam as “funny, and warm.” (BC) Jim says about Karen “I like pretty women who have the appearance of intelligence.” (Traveling Salesmen) Advantage: Pam.
8. Karen doesn’t listen to Jim. (The Negotiation) Pam is willing to help him through his problems, even when it was in her advantage not to. (Break room scene in BFV)
9. According to Michael one word: “boobs” (The Secret)
10. Pam makes Jim happy.
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
May 5 2007, 09:45 AM
QUOTE (unshun @ May 5 2007, 10:04 AM)

Here is my list of Ten Reasons Pam is better than Karen.
1. Pam always looks good, not just from behind.
2. Pam's pranks are way more fun than "Call of Duty"
3. Pam knows how to change a tire
4. Pam can tease her Officemates, but is always there for them when they need her. (Angela, Dwight, and Michael have all leaned on her)
5. Pam is the Macgyver of the Office. Honestly, Olympic medals out of yogurt tops, and hand towels out bathrobes.
6. Pam can improvise and take Jim's pranks to a higher level.
7. Jim describes Pam as "funny, and warm." (BC) Jim says about Karen "I like pretty women who have the appearance of intelligence." (Traveling Salesmen) Advantage: Pam.
8. Karen doesn't listen to Jim. (The Negotiation) Pam is willing to help him through his problems, even when it was in her advantage not to. (Break room scene in BFV)
9. According to Michael one word: "boobs" (The Secret)
10. Pam makes Jim happy.
I love it!
I'd like to add: Pam is Jim's soulmate, Karen is Jim's cell mate.
stapler_in_jello
May 5 2007, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ May 5 2007, 10:45 AM)

I'd like to add: Pam is Jim's soulmate, Karen is Jim's cell mate.
LMAO!

I love it.
queenofengland
May 5 2007, 11:22 AM
QUOTE (unshun @ May 5 2007, 07:04 AM)

Here is my list of Ten Reasons Pam is better than Karen.
1. Pam always looks good, not just from behind.
2. Pam’s pranks are way more fun than “Call of Duty”
3. Pam knows how to change a tire
4. Pam can tease her Officemates, but is always there for them when they need her. (Angela, Dwight, and Michael have all leaned on her)
5. Pam is the Macgyver of the Office. Honestly, Olympic medals out of yogurt tops, and hand towels out bathrobes.
6. Pam can improvise and take Jim’s pranks to a higher level.
7. Jim describes Pam as “funny, and warm.” (BC) Jim says about Karen “I like pretty women who have the appearance of intelligence.” (Traveling Salesmen) Advantage: Pam.
8. Karen doesn’t listen to Jim. (The Negotiation) Pam is willing to help him through his problems, even when it was in her advantage not to. (Break room scene in BFV)
9. According to Michael one word: “boobs” (The Secret)
10. Pam makes Jim happy.
Great list unshun!!! #4 is especially true. (I love that those are three of the most intolerable people in the office, but she genuinely cares about them)
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ May 5 2007, 07:45 AM)

I love it!
I'd like to add: Pam is Jim's soulmate, Karen is Jim's cell mate.
LOL! Beeswax, have I told you that you are awesome? Just.... great.
Fancy_New_Beasley
May 5 2007, 11:29 AM
My sincere apologies for my above post (top of this page). I added spoiler bars, but there's a quote further down & I don't know how to put spoiler bars in when someone else quotes my post. I didn't think mentioning the promo on the website would be a spoiler, since it's the first thing that loads when you get to the main site. It's also mostly about My Name is Earl, and is the same thing they're showing on TV, so... I figured it was mainstream. But I can see how some people would be trying to avoid even that, so I apologize if I stressed anyone out. Besides, I think the promos really are misleading- they'll put in little clips so you think one thing is going to happen, and then it will be the total opposite. Still, I am interested to see what everyone else thought about the promo (in spoiler bars, of course!)
officerules07
May 5 2007, 11:49 AM
QUOTE (Two Toasters @ May 4 2007, 12:30 PM)

officerules07 i have two obsessions: the office and DMB. i read your post and couldn't stop myself from saying I LOVE YOU! hehe

WOO HOO!! DMB is aMAzing & A-W-E-SOME!! Of course I now
you too!
QUOTE (CrushOnJim @ May 4 2007, 03:37 PM)


I'm sure my husband thinks the same thing. During the show last night I said, "I see some JAMMY goodness on the horizon" and he looked at me like I was an alien (Blgaaaah). I had to explain the term JAM to him and he just shook his head at me. I told he can't give me too much crap though, because I have endured endless speculation and comments about the NFL for
YEARS. Love this!!

Join the club. Mine likes TO & tolerates my obsession. The only reason he can handle it is b/c (1) we do lots of other stuff together that we can discuss (sports, concerts, etc), (2) he'd rather discuss TO than work BS, (3) he realizes it's better than doing drugs or cheating on him & (4) it costs him nothing. Win-win-win!!
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ May 4 2007, 03:53 PM)

And everyone who said the elevator scene was pitch perfect as it was..I concur. It spoke volumes! No dialogue necessary(Think Jim and Pam in the elevator in The Secret.) I love the smile Jim gave Pam, but why is Karen smiling? Resignation? I don't know.
ITA. Perfect scene. JAREN is going DOWN.
QUOTE (loveanyway @ May 4 2007, 08:18 PM)

Anyways, I just noticed something (it's funny how that happens after you watch something for the 100th time?) Jim never takes his eyes off the flyer. He even walks backwards away from the fridge.
Awwwwwww...I
you for pointing this out.
QUOTE (unshun @ May 4 2007, 09:42 PM)

I was wondering about Michael's wishes. In the shot of Michael throwing the coins in the fountain only Pam and Phyllis are with him. He must have told them what he was doing. The fact that his wish for Phyllis was a Plasma TV suggests he solicited their inputs for what he should be wishing for. You all see where I am going with this. Pam asks for courage. (Go FNB she knows what she wants and she is mustering her strength to go after it.) I also think Pam suggested the wishes for Angela and Kelly. It strikes me as her sense of humor, it masks the significance of her wish from Phyllis, and it goes totally over Michael's head. I realize I am wait out on a limb here. I doubt we will ever get proof one way or another, but the thought makes me happy.
That is a really good point. I was wondering about the TV, but that makes perfect sense. It just hit me that he didn't make a wish for Karen (am I wrong???). Wow.
QUOTE (Fancy New Beasley @ May 4 2007, 11:33 PM)

I saw that promo too and it made me curious. I didn't expect Pam to make any declarations in front of everyone... But I also know promos are notoriously misleading, so I'm not going to read too much into it. I am wondering what everyone else thought, though.
I couldn't resist & watched it. I'll visit the Spoiler AA thread later, but I will say I doubt Pam will tell Jim she loves him right there in front of everyone, but hopefully she'll say something that will make him realize she's changed & it will give him hope again so she can tell him in the finale! It's all good!
I have another Pam/Jim song to share! This is old school Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart from 1985! Too bad Pam can't just sing this to Jim.
Under the ruins of a walled city
Crumbling towers in beams of yellow light
No flags of truce, no cries of pity
The siege guns had been pounding all through the night
It took a day to build the city
We walked through its streets in the afternoon
As I returned across the fields I'd known
I recognized the walls that I once laid
I had to stop in my tracks for fear
Of walking on the mines I'd laid
And if I have built this fortress around your heart
Encircled you in trenches and barbed wire
Then let me build a bridge
For I cannot fill the chasm
And let me set the battlements on fire
Then I went off to fight some battle
That I'd invented inside my head
Away so long for years and years
You probably thought or even wished that I was dead
While the armies all are sleeping
Beneath the tattered flag we'd made
I had to stop in my tracks for fear
Of walking on the mines I'd laid
(Chorus)
This prison has now become your home
A sentence you seem prepared to pay
It took a day to build the city
We walked through its streets in the afternoon
As I returned across the lands I'd known
I recognized the fields where I'd once played
I had to stop in my tracks for fear
Of walking on the mines I'd laid
(Chorus)
makesmyhearthalpatate
May 5 2007, 11:59 AM
HOLY COW!!!! I just watched the promo...and that is all I am going to watch. Gonna be grrrrreat!!
And I have to add, but only here, this is totally why I watch the show. I love everyone else and the humor, etc. but I love JAM!!!
Fancy_New_Becca
May 5 2007, 12:06 PM
I really liked your list unshun and where is this promo?? I just barely got back on here. There is Jam interaction?? I'm going to be tortured all week now.
mybestfriend
May 5 2007, 12:10 PM
^^^
Even though I've struggled I have remained spoiler-free, but the promo just called my name and I had to watch it. Yikes! All I can say is I'm with you, MMH, they better not be messing with our minds. BTW, you probably should have black-barred some of what you wrote regarding the upcoming ep for those that do not give into the lure of the promo.
queenofengland
May 5 2007, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (Fancy New Beasley @ May 5 2007, 09:29 AM)

My sincere apologies for my above post (top of this page). I added spoiler bars, but there's a quote further down & I don't know how to put spoiler bars in when someone else quotes my post. I didn't think mentioning the promo on the website would be a spoiler, since it's the first thing that loads when you get to the main site. It's also mostly about My Name is Earl, and is the same thing they're showing on TV, so... I figured it was mainstream. But I can see how some people would be trying to avoid even that, so I apologize if I stressed anyone out. Besides, I think the promos really are misleading- they'll put in little clips so you think one thing is going to happen, and then it will be the total opposite. Still, I am interested to see what everyone else thought about the promo (in spoiler bars, of course!)
Thank you so much FancyNewBeasley! I don't think you stressed anyone out, but better safe than sorry, right?

I know it's kind of weird, but a lot of us don't watch promos, so your spoiler bars will definitely help. Thanks again!
unokid
May 5 2007, 02:19 PM
Beeswax Not Yours, Inc. Where did you get the picture in your avatar? I love it!
loveanyway
May 5 2007, 02:45 PM
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.OH.MY.GOD!!!
I just saw the promo for Beach Days.
I am literally shaking. Seriously, I'm having difficulty typing this because my hands are shaking.
I am SO nervous for Pam.
sedimentary
May 5 2007, 03:16 PM
Can someone tell me how to put on spolier bars...I think I may have typed some info that may be spolierish...and I do apologize...and I will fix the one I quoted on also...
Accept my apologies...I wanted to remain spoiler free and was hit up beside the head with one when I got on the NBC home page. SO BEWARE!!!
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