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officeobsessed
I didn't play Desert Island b/c it was just too darn hard (TWSS), but I did want to throw out there one of my favorite Jim moments--In BC when he was on the deck telling Michael why he likes Pam. "She's warm...etc." I love the look on his face. It's such a real moment--hard to believe it was scripted.

That's all for now. I'm sure I'll think of others later..Jim and Pam seem to be on my mind a lot lately!

P.S., ^^^Pamcasso, I am telling you that JAM has to happen by the end of the season. If not, I personally will feel SOOOO cheated for sticking with the show through the downer known as Season 3. I don't know if I'll have the patience or the desire to watch Season 4 if Karen and Jim are still together. If my feelings are any type of gauge as to how other flans feel, then TPTB will throw us a JAM bone if they've done their homework. Does that make sense? Does it make you feel any better? It doesn't really make me feel better, but I know I have lost interest in shows (like Fr*ends) where they dragged it on for so long that I didn't care if they (R*ss and R*ach*l) got together in the end. Hopefully TPTB have that insight.
_pamcasso_
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ Apr 23 2007, 07:52 PM) *
P.S., ^^^Pamcasso, I am telling you that JAM has to happen by the end of the season. If not, I personally will feel SOOOO cheated for sticking with the show through the downer known as Season 3. I don't know if I'll have the patience or the desire to watch Season 4 if Karen and Jim are still together. If my feelings are any type of gauge as to how other flans feel, then TPTB will throw us a JAM bone if they've done their homework. Does that make sense? Does it make you feel any better? It doesn't really make me feel better, but I know I have lost interest in shows (like Fr*ends) where they dragged it on for so long that I didn't care if they (R*ss and R*ach*l) got together in the end. Hopefully TPTB have that insight.

Yes it makes sense, but like you said, doesn't make me feel much better smile.gif I will feel duped, thinking this show was above all else, but my hope is hanging by a thread, and it is that almost invisible shred of hope that is keeping me afloat.
officeobsessed
QUOTE (_pamcasso_ @ Apr 23 2007, 05:58 PM) *
Yes it makes sense, but like you said, doesn't make me feel much better smile.gif I will feel duped, thinking this show was above all else, but my hope is hanging by a thread, and it is that almost invisible shred of hope that is keeping me afloat.

Ditto.
Cathyg
Keep the faith. The writing is so good on this show... Romantical and comical and fantastical. It's got it all. I like the youtube video set to "Love Today". It's positive and has some pretty funny parts. Think positival
Pam_Halpert_1
QUOTE (dinknflicker @ Apr 23 2007, 02:53 PM) *
I'm so conflicted. Optimistic because of the cheeseburger situation. However, the more posts I see with black lines, the more fretting I do. So yes Pam Halpert, you of the optimistic name. I think a pep talk is in order. With NO black lines. I'm waiting with baited breath.


My Speech:

Attention all Jammers gather around and listen to my words!!!

not long ago this time last year we were faced with a situation like this!! Interviews were going everywhere about how there was going to be huge developments in the sotry , but when asked Jenna said she did not think we were going to like it. After the cliffhanger Jenna posted a picture with Roy wearing a wedding ring which caused a tisy among the community!!

Now you all know that Roy and Pam did not get married so was that picture real?? NO it was NOT real!!! The have done this before!!

They shot two endings to the story lines which shows that there is information they don't want leaked out!! So now YOU tell me.... If Jim and Karen were to get together.. is that a major plot line??
YES it is.. would the producers want us to know a major plot line?? NO they would not...

I Have said before this is a good sign, they are trying to push us off the scent.... If we saw Jim and Pam together I would be worried becasue then they would be setting us up for them getting together which would ruin their ""BIG" surprise... you see it is all about making you think one thing so that when they do the opposite you go WOW I NEVER SAW THAT COMMING... in reality you did.. so they have to make you doubt..

This whole season had been about doubt.... just look at season 2 we all thought Jim and Pam would get together and they did not

Now we all think they are not going to get together.. so logic dictates that they will!!!!

This is way to convienent for my taste, do you actually think that they would shoot something like this in plain site if it was a HUGE plot line?? NO

Look, I will eat my words If I have to... BUT I WILL NOT HAVE TO......becasue Jim and Pam are getting together.. the whole season has set this up people.. the whole season, the writers do actually have an arc written out for the whole season this is a TV show!!! They would of not put so much angst in this season if it is not going to end up with a good ending...

Think of how a story is written.. it is "U" shaped.. JAM was at the top in S3.. Pam was not married and Jim was single.. then it went downhill.. no show has ever let the story line stay at the bottom of that "u" they have to come full circle.. we have no where to go but UP...

Do you hear me?? NO where it go but UP!!!!!! Pam IS going to tell Jim and put the ball into jim's hands.. and we know by just seeing the return that once Jim has that ball and a small bit of hope.. it is only a matter... a VERY SHORT matter of time before Jim takes that ball and slam dunks it!!!!!!!!! Jim LOVES PAM to much for himslef to handle he needs her, he wants her, he is not as happy without her.. Pam's affect on Jim shows just how much she has a hold on him all Pam has to do is squezze and Jim is putty in her hands!!!

SO JAMMERS... DO YOU HEAR WHAT I AM SAYING??

they belong together!! that is a fact plain and simple they belong together even Greg Daniels has said that they will get together.. yes he did say that.. he siad he will bring them together once the characters are ready and I for one KNOW that Jim adn Pam ARE reday!!!!
maxwell3
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 11:46 AM) *
no.... do I have to have another talk people??

They did this last year as well.. it means nothing!!



What exactly happened last year? I was not around back then.

Edit... Nevermind, You answered my question while I was posting. I feel much better now. Thanks PH.
_pamcasso_
QUOTE (Lemoņadé @ Apr 23 2007, 09:06 PM) *
What exactly happened last year? I was not around back then.

Ditto.
Pam_Halpert_1
Read my post!!!!!! If you don't feel better I have one more trick up my sleve but you have been warned..
snogging_staplers
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 08:10 PM) *
Read my post!!!!!! If you don't feel better I have one more trick up my sleeve but you have been warned..

Does it involve your whip? huh.gif
smellslikechickensoup
Pam! That was A-W-E-S-O-M-E!! I feel so much better after that pep talk!! Thank you muchly!!
Pam_Halpert_1
QUOTE (snogging_staplers @ Apr 23 2007, 09:20 PM) *
Does it involve your whip? huh.gif


HAHAHA laugh.gif No but it does involve a spoiler.. the one and only spoiler I know!!!! ( and it is not a small one so I would rather not use it if I have too)

QUOTE (smellslikechickensoup @ Apr 23 2007, 09:21 PM) *
Pam! That was A-W-E-S-O-M-E!! I feel so much better after that pep talk!! Thank you muchly!!


I am glad it helped you!!! I worry when my fellow Jammers are not positive!!
officeobsessed
If you want to laugh, I've been having some fun with one of the NYC pix on the "Scuttlebutt Screen Cap" thread... wink.gif
herecomestrouble
Pam, this is the BEST logic for hope I have seen in a LONG time! Bravo -- (and I'm quoting you here)

This whole season had been about doubt.... just look at season 2 we all thought Jim and Pam would get together and they did not

Now we all think they are not going to get together.. so logic dictates that they will!!!!


Thanks for your post. I have been moping all day before I read your post.
Marissa87
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 09:10 PM) *
Read my post!!!!!! If you don't feel better I have one more trick up my sleve but you have been warned..


I'm feeling pretty positive right now, but I'll take anything you got.
sedimentary
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 08:10 PM) *
Read my post!!!!!! If you don't feel better I have one more trick up my sleve but you have been warned..



What is your trick? You can't say that and then not let us in!!! Make me believe that all will be well in the world of Jim and Pam!
herecomestrouble
Pam, what spoiler? come on . . .
Pam_Halpert_1
its a BIG BIG BIG spoiler... are you sure??
herecomestrouble
Try me
sedimentary
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 08:36 PM) *
its a BIG BIG BIG spoiler... are you sure??



Indubidably.
Pam_Halpert_1
OMG do you know who you are asking?? the spoiler AA leader?? I would be shuned... shuned I tell you....


let me think of a way to word this.. and then I will tell you.. cant you just trust me that it is VERY VERY VERY VERY good!!!!!!
officeobsessed
Is the big surprise ice cream sandwiches?
Pam_Halpert_1
666.. you last post was 666

You are evil Karen.... don't tey and tempt me by typing on OO name.. tongue.gif
sedimentary
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ Apr 23 2007, 08:44 PM) *
Is the big surprise ice cream sandwiches?



That is hilarious!!! I think we would all feel as let down as the office did when that was their surprise!

I love when Jim throws the ice cream sandwich at Dwight's "workspace" door!
officeobsessed
QUOTE (sedimentary @ Apr 23 2007, 08:47 PM) *
That is hilarious!!! I think we would all feel as let down as the office did when that was their surprise!

I love when Jim throws the ice cream sandwich at Dwight's "workspace" door!

Healthcare is one of the best episodes. Definitely in my Top Ten. I love when Jim locks Dwight in his "workspace" and tosses the keys ever so smoothly onto the bookcase!
sedimentary
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ Apr 23 2007, 08:49 PM) *
Healthcare is one of the best episodes. Definitely in my Top Ten. I love when Jim locks Dwight in his "workspace" and tosses the keys ever so smoothly onto the bookcase!



Isn't that smooth!! I love that episode too!! Classic Jim!
herecomestrouble
Pam, Ryan is not the office tease -- you are. tongue.gif
officeobsessed
Everybody get over to the "Scuttlebutt Game Screen Cap" thread now! That's an order! Check out the last several screen caps of CN Kiss and JAREN in NYC! You will laugh yourself out of your JAM funk..promise!
Marissa87
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 09:43 PM) *
OMG do you know who you are asking?? the spoiler AA leader?? I would be shuned... shuned I tell you....
let me think of a way to word this.. and then I will tell you.. cant you just trust me that it is VERY VERY VERY VERY good!!!!!!



Please just black it out and tell us...pleeeease. I read spoilers. I probably know what it is. IS it that video with jenna fischer?
Pam_Halpert_1
Oh a guessing game I love it!!!!

And NO ... muhaha
sedimentary
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 08:46 PM) *
666.. you last post was 666

You are evil Karen.... don't tey and tempt me by typing on OO name.. tongue.gif



You are evil like a hobbit!
Pam_Halpert_1
oh calm doen once Beeswax gives me the okay I will post it... you can keep on guessing if you want wink.gif

HAHAHA laugh.gif you guys are making my day so much better
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 10:19 PM) *
oh calm doen once Beeswax gives me the okay I will post it... you can keep on guessing if you want wink.gif

HAHAHA laugh.gif you guys are making my day so much better



Ok, what's all this broohaha in here?

My JAM senses are tingling with the dangling carrot of a spoiler.

Hmmmm...should I allow this in my JAM Therapy thread?

AW, go on. These crazy kids need some hope about now. I've always thought of this thread as anything goes, so GO!
officerules07
I spent WAY too long on this, but it sure was fun!!

Desert Island JAM-style

Top 5 Favorite Jim Moments
5) When he was eating doritos in the break room before Dwight walks in & sees all of his stuff in the vending machine (Booze Cruise)
4) "Dwight got a hooker!" (Convention)
3) "I'm in love with you..." (wub.gif) (CN)
2) Everything about the bball scene (hot!) (Basketball)
1) Pam: "Hi." Jim: "Hey" (another wub.gif) (Drug Testing)

Top 5 Favorite Pam Moments
5) When she was being sweet to concussed Dwight (Injury)
4) Little victory dance (Safety Training)
3) Making kissy face to Jim (Sexual Harassment deleted scene)
2) 7 voice mails (Carpet)
1) Drunk Pam (Dundies!)

Top 5 Favorite Jam Moments
5) THE HUG (wub.gif) (Merger)
4) Sitting at bar (Dundies!)
3) Their roof date (Client)
2) 27 seconds of silence (Booze Cruise)
1) THE KISS (wub.gif) (CN)
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
QUOTE (officerules07 @ Apr 23 2007, 10:28 PM) *
Top 5 Favorite Pam Moments
5) When she was being sweet to concussed Dwight (Injury)



Aww, huggy hugs. I love that moment! Just like I love when Dwight gave Pam his hankie in BFV.
Pam_Halpert_1
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 09:04 PM) *
My Speech:

Attention all Jammers gather around and listen to my words!!!

not long ago this time last year we were faced with a situation like this!! Interviews were going everywhere about how there was going to be huge developments in the sotry , but when asked Jenna said she did not think we were going to like it. After the cliffhanger Jenna posted a picture with Roy wearing a wedding ring which caused a tisy among the community!!

Now you all know that Roy and Pam did not get married so was that picture real?? NO it was NOT real!!! The have done this before!!

They shot two endings to the story lines which shows that there is information they don't want leaked out!! So now YOU tell me.... If Jim and Karen were to get together.. is that a major plot line??
YES it is.. would the producers want us to know a major plot line?? NO they would not...

I Have said before this is a good sign, they are trying to push us off the scent.... If we saw Jim and Pam together I would be worried becasue then they would be setting us up for them getting together which would ruin their ""BIG" surprise... you see it is all about making you think one thing so that when they do the opposite you go WOW I NEVER SAW THAT COMMING... in reality you did.. so they have to make you doubt..

This whole season had been about doubt.... just look at season 2 we all thought Jim and Pam would get together and they did not

Now we all think they are not going to get together.. so logic dictates that they will!!!!

This is way to convienent for my taste, do you actually think that they would shoot something like this in plain site if it was a HUGE plot line?? NO

Look, I will eat my words If I have to... BUT I WILL NOT HAVE TO......becasue Jim and Pam are getting together.. the whole season has set this up people.. the whole season, the writers do actually have an arc written out for the whole season this is a TV show!!! They would of not put so much angst in this season if it is not going to end up with a good ending...

Think of how a story is written.. it is "U" shaped.. JAM was at the top in S3.. Pam was not married and Jim was single.. then it went downhill.. no show has ever let the story line stay at the bottom of that "u" they have to come full circle.. we have no where to go but UP...

Do you hear me?? NO where it go but UP!!!!!! Pam IS going to tell Jim and put the ball into jim's hands.. and we know by just seeing the return that once Jim has that ball and a small bit of hope.. it is only a matter... a VERY SHORT matter of time before Jim takes that ball and slam dunks it!!!!!!!!! Jim LOVES PAM to much for himslef to handle he needs her, he wants her, he is not as happy without her.. Pam's affect on Jim shows just how much she has a hold on him all Pam has to do is squezze and Jim is putty in her hands!!!

SO JAMMERS... DO YOU HEAR WHAT I AM SAYING??

they belong together!! that is a fact plain and simple they belong together even Greg Daniels has said that they will get together.. yes he did say that.. he siad he will bring them together once the characters are ready and I for one KNOW that Jim adn Pam ARE reday!!!!


Okay yall... Now I know 5 spoilers, I am going to put them all together to make a statement.. as always this is some speculation on peoples part so take with grain of salt.

New information is going to come out from my scorce.. but I have told her I am spoiler free for now... so that is all I know unless I beg and plead.

so I now have to go and think of my next plan for when there is a melt down on this thread!!

Don't worry... It WILL happen!!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 10:36 PM) *
Okay yall... Now I know 5 spoilers, I am going to put them all together to make a statement.. as always this is some speculation on peoples part so take with grain of salt.

Two of the shows writters have said that they plan on putting Jim and Pam together it is just a matter of time, hey said that they would more the lines of their story along and not slowly drag it out.. when they move the plot line they will "move" it. 3 people close to the TV industry has said they are 90% sure that it will happen... and it is almost a given that even if Karen in not off the show she is out of the Scranton office

New information is going to come out from my scorce.. but I have told her I am spoiler free for now... so that is all I know unless I beg and plead.

so I now have to go and think of my next plan for when there is a melt down on this thread!!

Don't worry... It WILL happen!!


Ok, before I scroll over those black bars, I need you to hold my hand here, PH. I really am pretty much spoiler free. I have never been on the spoiler thread and I've only read ep summaries and seen a few pics.

Will I regret looking at those spoilers? Where does this info come from?

I'm scared!!!!!
Pam_Halpert_1
Beeswax do not look!!!!!

DONT DO IT

Agian take with grain of salt.. man y of this info come from my friend who was at the paley fest...

DONT LOOK... if you are part of the Spoiler AA culb DO NOT LOOK

you will be mad if you do.. dont do it
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Beeswax do not look!!!!!

DONT DO IT

Agian take with grain of salt.. man y of this info come from my friend who was at the paley fest...

DONT LOOK... if you are part of the Spoiler AA culb DO NOT LOOK

you will be mad if you do.. dont do it



Ok, I will stay strong! I will not look. I am DYING to, but I won't.

Nothing is as sweet as unspoiled JAM.

I am afraid of how much I love you Pam Halpert. You are a gentlewoman and a scholar.
Pam_Halpert_1
yes unspoiled!!!! this is good!!!! I just have a friend who knows to much.. I should tell her to come over here and post but she hates MB'S hahaha

unspoiled!!!

I have power!!?? I like this!! I feel loved!! I have a feeling next two episodes are going to be hard ( no spoilers, just feeling) so buckle up!! it is going to get bumpy
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
I've got my seatbelt buckled up and I borrowed Dwight's faceshield from Basketball. I'm ready for whatever they want to throw at me.

Honestly, after the events of GWH and PW, it couldn't get worse. Even if Jim and Pam are screaming hateful things and throwing post-it notes at each other, it would be better than what we've been put through this season.

Hmmmm...Jim and Pam...post-it notes...Pam H? Do you still have those keys to the supply closet?
Pam_Halpert_1
yes I do!!! wraped up in a little package ready to give the JAM at the end of season 3 biggrin.gif
officerules07
QUOTE (Beeswax Not Yours Inc. @ Apr 23 2007, 10:02 PM) *
I've got my seatbelt buckled up and I borrowed Dwight's faceshield from Basketball. I'm ready for whatever they want to throw at me.

Honestly, after the events of GWH and PW, it couldn't get worse. Even if Jim and Pam are screaming hateful things and throwing post-it notes at each other, it would be better than what we've been put through this season.

I honestly don't think we'll see a whole lot of JAM in these next two eps. If we're lucky, maybe Pam will slowly keep taking away bricks when Jim isn't looking & then BAM! As you said, we've been through SO much this season. I think it would be cruel for them to make us go through more crap - I'm hoping we're on the upswing. But whatever happens, remember SHE IS HIS CHEESEBURGER, HIS PRECIOUS CHEESEBURGER. (*Heading to YouTube to watch it for 1st time today*) wub.gif
Pam_Halpert_1
by lots of bumps I mean no JAM until beach day... then there will be lots of PAM and not so much JAM.. just my thoughts!!!

FNOR you are my sunshine smile.gif
sedimentary
OK, Pam Halpert. Thanks for your information. I will take what you said and let it get me through the next couple episodes. I am also ready for the ride! I can't wait for beach day...
stapler_in_jello
PH, for JAM's sake, I hope those spoilers are true. May I ask when you heard them?
Pam_Halpert_1
about a month ago..
Marissa87
Awesome, now I can relax a bit. Knowing what I now know. Hey it's Tuesday! Only 2 more days, not counting today which just started, but I plan on keeping myself busy today so....
Pam_Halpert_1
not to put a damper on anything.. but when I say JAM will happen... I don't mean this season.... it might happen this season but I think the JAM development we will get this season is two things Karen will be gone from Scranton and Pam will tell Jim everything....

The factor hindering it all right now is Jim... but as we all know it will only take Jim a while to get it together.. so I am thinking when we come back for the summer he will have taken control of himself!!!

Just remember JAM happenes in small bits so the huge JAM moment in the fianle might go unnoticed at first! As long as Jim gets the ball back in his court and Karen is gone by the seasons end then it is all good and jammerific!!!

this is where TV life and real life clash... and we will have to see what the writers follow.. but if it is real life Jim is just not ready yet.. he will be, just not now..

I see this as positive and you need to see it as positive as well!!!
Beeswax_Not_Yours_Inc.
Yes, JAM coming together is a delicate process.

As much as we all wish the last scene of The Job will be Jim and Pam making out like their plane is going down, that's probably not going to happen.

JAM is all about small, subtle moments being captured by the film crew and I think we are going to get enough of those moments in the last few eps.

But, then again, those writers may surprise us and slap us in the face with a big JAM moment. Look at CN.

Anything is possible, we should all just be like Girl Guides and be prepared.
pbskl
QUOTE (Pam Halpert @ Apr 23 2007, 09:18 PM) *
by lots of bumps I mean no JAM until beach day... then there will be lots of PAM and not so much JAM.. just my thoughts!!!

FNOR you are my sunshine smile.gif


I actually see Beach Day as the official JAM episode, and here's why...

In an interview with Jenna Fischer, she is asked about the upcoming scenes and gets ecstatic about Beach Day... like the smile she throws down is the JAMiest smile I have ever seen. Now, look at the episode description... Pam has to watch Jim and Karen have fun all day together.
To me, this says two very important and JAMtastic things:

The writers are rather obviously covering something up. First of all, they've already set up JAREN's inevitable failure in ST... they wouldn't transform Jim and Karen from a rapidly decaying couple into the super happy rainbow joy pair in a matter of episodes after that. Secondly, they have been building up Pam's newfound honesty and her Karen envy for half the season... if there is one thing that will pain her to the point of abandoning her moral center, it is the intense jealousy one gets from watching a crush enjoy time with someone else. Combined with that smile, I would say an explosive JAM moment in BD should be practically expected, as much as I hate getting my hopes up.

Now, that is not to say I expect them to get together... I'm predicting that Pam will let Jim know how she feels, Jim will need some time to think about it, and all that will drive the finale from the beginning all the way to the cliff hanger ending.


That being said, one thing I definitely AM expecting is a lot of subtle JAM interaction in the next two episodes, much like the kind we saw in ST. I'm pretty confident that the last episode thawed out their little "Cold War", and although I doubt there will be anything monumental, it may be enough to keep us JAM Therapy people from tearing out our eyes rolleyes.gif .

And, once again, I am confused as to whether I spoiler barred everything that needed it, so let me know...
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