So did everyone really hate Dani that much? I thought it would be interesting to discuss this because reruns means we get to see her again.

i hated her from the moment she came she was disliked by pretty much everyone on the squad even tamara tunie the nice doctor seemed to be agitated by her appearance i for one thought that she would have been better off gone

I didn't really hate her. I think I just didn't like the idea that she could replace Olivia so quickly in Elliot's life. I mean I know he missed working with Liv but he was way too comfortable with Dani. Elliot never really raised his voice to Dani but he has no problems shouting at Liv. I don't think it has anything to do with getting to know her because he had no trouble punching Blain. LOL! For me it was the replacing aspect that bothered me about Dani.

I liked Dani. I knew Olivia was coming back and Mariska had to take her maternity leave to have and take care of her lovely boy. Dani was different from Olivia and she was a bit of a fresh air and of course, had me look forward to Olivia's return. I didn't really like the kiss between Elliot and Dani- that freaked me out but hey, Elliot's going back to his wife and Dani is living happily ever after in her Warrant department.

I agree! I really liked Dani. She and Elliot didn't quite have the chemistry as Olivia and Elliot (and I'm not even a shipper..), but I still enjoyed her. She was definitely interesting, and I wish they would have kept her. Not to replace Mariska or anything, but just as another cast memeber. Maybe she could have worked with Beach? I don't know. But I do know that her heart was in the right place, and she was really passionate. And I always thought she was good with victims.

She was no Olivia, but she didn't deserve all the hate she got.

[quote name='LovelyMariska' date='May 28 2007, 12:27 PM' Elliot never really raised his voice to Dani but he has no problems shouting at Liv. [/quote]


Believe it our not, that is a sign of closeness, it is easier to hurt the ones you care about.

As for Blain, he made a crack about Olivia dumping him, and well, Elliot is Elliot. (and God knows I love that angry man!)

Also he knew the situation with Dani and why she was there, Olivia went undercover... where on day he goes to a crime scene and Bham!...new partner, then finds out she chose to leave. He may have become comfortable with Dani, but I don't think Dani can ever replace Olivia for him (or me!)

And no, I did not like Dani.

lady, that was a good answer! i am with you all the way!

[size=5]i really actually don't hate dani , it's the fact that she wasn't Olivia made me not like her .and also the fact that Elliot took to her so quickly made it seem that he was stabbing Olivia in the back !!! we all missed Mariska while she was on maternity , and dani's character wasn't exactly likable to begin with ... and then when olivia saw elliot and dani it broke my heart !!! so that made me hate dani at the time but thinkin about it now she really wasn't bad and connie neilson must have felt really bad knowing she played a character that everybody hated !! so i felt really bad !!!![/size][font="Arial"][/font]

you know i really didn't like the poll....but I will say this, when they brought casey on the show she needed to develop, work into her character and the writers needed to play with her alot....I mean look how much she has changed so to form opinion about Dani so short into her role would be unfair and not right....she will develop and form as a character and herself in her acting abilities. I think we should all be open minded about her; Chris and Mariska are not going to be there forever....sorry shippers.

I Did Not Like Her. I Didnt Feel The Conection With Her And The Other Characters. I Didnt Think She Belonged. Of Coarse I Only Watched A Couple Episodes With Her In Them Till I Stoped Watching. It Wasnt That Interesting To Me After Mariska Left.

I am sure under the circumstances that Connie Nelson, and the people over at SVU would not have been surprised with peoples reaction to her. Replacing Stephanie March, I am sure Diane Neal also expected to be disliked in the beginning. Connie's character was never meant to be long term, so there was no need to try and fit her in the groove.

As for Dani Beck, I wish we could jsut let her go....because I did not like that chick at all.

Connie is okay... Dani is okay... but when she gets hooked up with that...that...man which you all call "Elliot", then I'll be livid!

I didn`t like Dani at all! I had preferred that the character of Marcia Gay Harden (FBI agent) had developed, it was nice wen she worked with Elliot, besides, she`s a GREAT actress. It had been interesting.

I hated her. She ruined everything. Come on now if Elliot can make out with her weather they are drunk or not why can't he do the same with Olivia. NO! He makes out with Dani then goes over and hops into bed with Kathy. So thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. Becaues now I have to go to bed in a VERY VERY bad mood.

I hated her!!!!!

I liked Dani. I felt like she was never given a fair chance. Just because she temporarily replaced Olivia is no reason to hate her. I mean, they had to find SOMEONE. The show just isn't as good w/just Elliot. Now I obviously like Olivia better, but I liked Dani too. She was really dedicated (remember the "some people shouldn't be allowed to drink coffee" line?). Plus, it's true that she kissed Elliot, but he kissed her too! In fact, he initiated the kiss ("no no, I'll drive you home"). And besides, Elliot was on the rebound. There was nothing wrong with that kiss. I know shippers were mad, but I'm no shipper.

Whatever, I liked her.

I liked her as well. I think I just missed Olivia and it was almost like territorial. She was coming in on Olivia's turff and Olivia fans wanted her hands off of Olivia's things; Elliot being one of her things. I wanted to yell at her after she kissed Elliot, "No toque nada bandeja!" LOL! It just sounded better in spansh.

WHATEVER! I think that they should have brought in somebody hotter than that. I think that it seems Elliot sunk really low to be able to mke ou with her. They should have brought in somebody like from the real world or from those stupid Making the Band show that no one really watched. Now you are probably thinking well how does she know anything about that. It is a thing called commercials. But that one FBI agent. Porter I think it was he was really hot.

I definitely have a little crush on him =D (but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.. cough cough Liv)

hummmm .... he´s nice but I don´t like him






Maybe he have a little crush on Olivia, but I don`t know if Olivia have a crush on him

I didn't really like her, but I didn't hate her either. I was annoyed that she replaced Liv, but then I really started not to like her when she & Elliot kissed. It doesn't make sense to me that after 8 years he hasn't even leaned in for a kiss with Liv, but he kisses this woman after a few weeks.

Hey, S.V.U. fanatic, your signature is great!

This is only my opinion, but I think it's because he's just not into Liv. I almost think they're too close to be involved. Like Kathy said in Burned, she knows things about him that he doesn't even tell his own wife.

He was just on the rebound, and he found Dani. Kind of simple-no need to hate.

thanks



Well I have a different opinion probably because I'm an E/O shipper. I agree-Elliot was probably just on the rebound. It still annoys me though. I don't hate Dani, but I don't like her either.

Exactly!

This is only my opinion, but I think it's because he's just not into Liv. I almost think they're too close to be involved. Like Kathy said in Burned, she knows things about him that he doesn't even tell his own wife.

While I completely agree that Elliot is not into Olivia, I don't think it is because they are too close. They are not that close at all. Most of their relationship is about their work. They only discuss personal things when they touch work. Elliot has listened to Olivia's problems about her conception and her mother. He's probably the big brother to his two sisters. And that's how he treatrs Olivia and her personal problems.
But Elliot doesn't come to Olivia to talk about his personal problems. She goes to him when it affects work and generally has to drag it out of him. He doesn't talk to her about his feelings, only the facts he thinks she needs to know about what's going on. He does the same thing when he talks to Cragen in his office in Wanderlust and Dr Hendricks in Ripped.
The only people Elliot has talked to about his feelings are Kathy and Maureen. And the writers took both of them away from him.
Which brings me back to Burned. The scene with Kathy and Olivia has always bothered me because it seemed so out of character. So I watched it last night and realized that Kathy believes that Elliot talks to Olivia the way he talked to Kathy in season 1. She doesn't know that he doesn't talk to Olivia that way. The only things that Olivia knows that Kathy doesn't are about work, not about Elliot.

I loved Dani! Part of me wanted him to go back to Kathy and part of me wanted to see him with Dani! I thought she was great! Not as good as Liv, but still good!
I was sad to see her leave.

This is true. However, I do think they share a special bond that would make it weird if they were together. Almost like a brother-sister relationship, but different. They don't really talk about their feelings, but they ARE always there for each other. Think:Elliot's divorce, Fault, Liv's family crisis. They been through a lot of stuff together. Coupled that with the henious crimes they tackle together every day, and I just don't think it's going to happen.

That MAYBE happens because men in general don´t talk about there fillings so easily, which is more true in police officers who (with few exceptions) don´t talk about feelings at all! And being Elliot so "macho man" as he is (sorry, but I don´t find another word to describe it, but you understand what I mean, don´t you?) that rule applies to him too.

And despite of her difficult life and her work Olivia is a woman and she finds a little more easy to speak with her partner about her fellings





I agree almoust totally but, for instance, when at the end of "Fault" he said to Olivia that she and his work is all that he has, if that is what he REALLY thinks, there´s a part of Elliot that Kathy truely doesn´t know and Olivia does.

(Or the writters put that on the script jus to confuse us )

I agree almoust totally but, for instance, when at the end of "Fault" he said to Olivia that she and his work is all that he has, if that is what he REALLY thinks, there´s a part of Elliot that Kathy truely doesn´t know and Olivia does.

(Or the writters put that on the script jus to confuse us)

Olivia and the job are a single phrase as opposed to two separate things.

But I take what Elliot said at the end of Fault with more than a grain of salt. Look at the scene in the warehouse when Gitano has his gun to Elliot's head and Olivia's gun is on Gitano. Elliot feels so guilty about not rescuing Ryan that he is willing to do anything to save his sister. He is telling Olivia that it's okay to let him die. It's suicide by perp.
Then he tells Olivia that he wasn't thinking about his kids. That is a clear indication that Elliot is not thinking straight. Elliot would do anything for his kids. The fact that he didn't consider them when his life was in danger is either the writers screwing up in a major way or a sign that Elliot needs to go talk to a mental health professional before being allowed back to work.

When you really think about it, it wasn't really much of a rebound, given how much time has pass from Kathy filing for separation/divorce. His attraction to Dr. Hendrix was more of a rebound to me; Olivia called him up on it to keep it out of work...I noticed that he was interested in her, especially when he kept jumping any chance to work with Dr. Hendrix which was unusual because he doesn't like shrinks, from his attitude with Haung and Skoda.

With Dani, he may have been technically still married (and still is) however time did pass and emotionally Elliot have been single for a while. They felt an attraction and both acted on it, yet somehow they both knew it wouldn't have worked out because of the job.

In Burned, it was obvious that Kathy did very much still cared and loves Elliot and it would be my guess that her divorce from Elliot was more due to Olivia's direction when she admitted that she was worried that Elliot preferred to spend more time with Olivia then with her and the kids and probably thought that they would be together (a new theory to my "Reasons of Kathy's Divorce" list). However, Kathy seemed to be touched when Olivia said that it wasn't true, Elliot spoke about Kathy all the time which meant he did love his wife and she was on his mind a lot. I thought Kathy was wrong when she told Olivia that she gives him stability; Olivia has done her best after Kathy left Elliot however it wasn't enough- if there's someone who gives Elliot stability, it would be Kathy

That´s true, it was so strange when he didn´t mention his family. Sometimes the writters do queer things, I´m remembering that scene whe Olivia was in the hospital and said "Elliot, Elliot ..."

Sometimes the writters do queer things, I´m remembering that scene whe Olivia was in the hospital and said "Elliot, Elliot ..."

They do say absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Awwww that scene was sweet. A shipper moment if there ever was one, and kind of out of character, but I still liked it. That and the corniest line ever: "Yeah, I'd give you a kidney."

I imagine a writter´s meeting: there are five or six persons seated around a table and one of them is a "E/O shipper" and every time that he or she says "I think that in this scene ..." the others shout "NOOOOOO !!!!!!!!"

I didn't like Dani that much but didn't pay a lot of attention to those episodes - now I've caught a few of the reruns with her and I like her even less; do you know how many times she would say "I can't do this", "I can't, can't can't" is all I heard - way too whiny so not fit for SVU. But they had to do something while Mariska was away. I've always wanted the E/O hook-up, but now I'm not too sure. Elliot's just not knowing what he wants to do, and with a new baby on the way???? Just wondering if Detective Lake will be any better than Dani - time will tell, but I have a feeling there are going to be some strange dynamics happening with the new guy around!!!

I didn't hate her I just missed Olivia. She was okay. I wasn't a fan of this whole kissing thing but that was not because it wasn't Olivia. I just thought the whole thing was pushed too fast. I was just glad that Olivia came back and now the two are partners again.

Well you can bet that Stabler and Lake won't be kissing anytime soon!

i may be one of the few but i liked Dani. My favorite episode with her was the last one-Cage. Btw, Elle fanning was a pretty good actress. I never thought of comparing her to Olivia b.c. that would be unfair to the character & i never felt that she was actually elliot's partner, so it just seemed to me like she joined the squad. Not as a replacement. But i'm glad olivia's back.

Whoever said it was a territorial thing was right. I don't think I would have minded Dani in another context - but not taking Liv's place with HER man.

I hated Dani. She was a pain in the *ss. And just to add, Olivia refers to Elliot as her best friend. It's clear that they have a special bond that goes beyond the job. And it's more than brother-sister. There have been several instances especially over the past couple seasons that indicate (I think) that Olivia is interested in Elliot in a more than partnerly way. And I also think that Elliot realized how he cares for Olivia in Fault.

I was ok with Dani as a temporary character. Although she was a little bit too extreme at times. The problem with her is although she was an interesting character; there was no place for her in SVU long term. Liv is El’s partner and she is the female of the squad. We already have someone looking at El with tears in her eyes all the time (Kathy) and she has more experience at it and El has the emotionally out of control cop role totally covered. I think he has enough drama by himself for three shows. However, I could see Dani on Criminal Intent where I think there needs to be a little bit more female strength and personality.

When Dani first left, I was still not sure what the point of her character was. They did not need her. They could have just focused on the guys while Liv was gone (which I think I would have preferred because I am a munch fan). But now that I have seen how things played out and the direction that the show is going in I have formed my own Dani theory.

She is only of use in a broad sense of the story line for what she teaches El about himself and the two women in his life: Liv and Kathy. What strikes me the most about El and Dani is how much they are alike. At this point in the story they both have no life and are pretty much living to catch the perp at any cost and so they bond easily and well. There is also an instant sexual attraction. They are both good looking, emotional, and lonely. However, Dani is an emotional train wreck and ultimately has no staying power and cannot take it in SVU and the issues involved.

What this reveals about El and Liv: Sexual tension is cheap. You can feel it with anyone that you have some chemistry with and it is very replaceable. However, a dedicated and reliable partner with a good head on her shoulders is harder to come by. Liv has had some staying power being El’s partner for over 7 years and she gives him stability and accountability on the job and sometimes a little bit outside of it too. It would take a long time to rebuild that with someone else.

What this reveals about El and Kathy: The whole given reason that Dani is so screwed up in the first place is because she lost her spouse. El is experiencing a similar loss in his own way, but the difference is that he still has a choice. He can still go back and salvage the marriage and a part of himself that he is in danger of losing forever. Although they are separated at this point Kathy has stood by him for over 20 years and has been dedicated to him for pretty much her entire adult life. He will never rebuild that or have the five kids with anyone else. He does not have to end up like Dani, but if he does not want to it is sink or swim with Kathy. I am not saying that he could not have another successful relationship, but not one like the one he has shared with her in the past and wants to in the future.

So there is my random Dani theory.

Dani wasn't bad but she wasn't my favorite character either. I mean she was worse then Olivia was in season 1; work wise I mean. Olivia was a bit wet behind the ears and a bit of a know it all. Now that she has learned how SVU really works and how different it is from other police work she has been in encountered with, she is a bit less of a know it all. Dani was like ten times as bad. She was also too much of a loud mouth and a push over. She also held a disregard for the rules. She did what she wanted regardless of Cragen or Elliot's orders. I also didn't like her because I missed Liv. LOL! I was so glad when Mariska came back.

Dani got my on nerves. The way she talked, acted and just her being there rubbed me the wrong way. She got too involved and once she had a thought that was it, she didn't care about anything else but proving herself right.

For me, maybe the main reason I felt that way was because we didn't need another SVU member joining up. They could have let Cragen partner with Elliot for awhile, or have him partner with Fin and Munch. But they decided to bring in another woman and partner her with El. Not only that, but it felt (to me) like they were using Dani to "one up" Olivia. We all know Olivia can speak mutiple languages. So could Dani. Liv keeps her hair short (for the most part) and basically Dani did too. Liv tends to always side just with the victim, Dani got too attached and involved with the victims. Notice a pattern?

That's my theory and my opinion anyway.

i wasn't super fond of her, but she wasn't as horrible as everyone says she was.
i think everyone was just upset about mariska going on mat. leave

if she was a person, i would have hated her.
i just don't like clingy kind of people. :|

no offense to her or anything :|

yes. she was awful.

I didnt like her from day one. Olivia is amazing and I didnt want to see anyone else try to take her place. ESPECIALLY after her and Elliott kissed. didnt like that at all.

I did not hate Dani but she could not function in the environment of SVU. I'm also glad that the relationship between her and Stabler didn't go anywhere but that looks like a set up for Kathy and Elliot's new relationship and trouble. She was better off doing detective work with less victims or a different kind of victim. Dani was a good detective but way too harsh. She could not go between the suspect and victim.

I didnt really care for her....I did not like how she was with the victims. But here is one of my theories with her not wanting to be with SVU.

Remember when Elliot got stabbed with the pen by the kid marc? They were holding hands in the hospital and Beck BROKE THE RULES to go see to him? She looked like she wanted to say something then Kathy came in. I think part of her leaving was her fear of something happening to Elliot like her husband and she didnt want to get attached to him. Then of course, her not being able to handle the victims.

I am one of those...when you are married, you are only with your spouse (seperated or not). But with hollywood, its rare we find a couple where one does not cheat in some way or another. Elliot needed to figure out what to do with his marriage, either stick with it, or get a divorce before he goes to someone else. Beck helped with that I think.

We of course now know he is sticking with Kathy and they are having a kid. I missed 18 months of this show...so the season 8 marathon on usa network allowed me to see dani beck for the first time. She was a good character...but I guess after having Olivia for 7 years previous, it was hard to see someone else at elliot's side.

I have liked the theories on why they had Dani. I just don't understand why they could have saved the money and used fin and munch. would have loved to see them in action with olivia gone. But then again, maybe beck helped elliot appreciate what he already had: a good wife and a good partner.

Were Benson and Stabler mad at each other before she got hitched over to Oregon? They both seemed so unsure of each other at first. Or maybe it was my imagaination? But Benson didn't say hi to elliot when she came to the squadroom. She just saw beck and the capt.

"Were Benson and Stabler mad at each other before she got hitched over to Oregon? They both seemed so unsure of each other at first. Or maybe it was my imagaination? But Benson didn't say hi to elliot when she came to the squadroom. She just saw beck and the capt."

There was no issue of anger before Olivia left for her undercover gig with the FBI. There was some concern over where she was and why she didn't say goodbye.
They were uncomfortable with each other mostly because they hadn't worked together for five or six weeks. And Olivia hadn't been back for long from Computer Crimes before she left again. Elliot had gotten used to working with Dani and he wasn't ready to let her go completely.
Olivia was upset when she saw Elliot and Dani together, and not before that point. Whether you want to consider it personal jealousy or professional is up to you.