Okay, so I posted a list of ways that Jim could ask Pam to marry him over on the Make Your Argument Thread and I have had to edit it a few times adding more. Rather than keep doing that, I thought that this would be a good topic for discussion. And let's open it up to more than just Jim. We've seen Michael's proposal to Carol but how would else would he/ could he with Jan or someone else. What about Dwight asking Angela? How did Kevin propose to Stacy? How did Roy ask Pam? Any and all ideas welcome. Let's get those positive thoughts going. Who was it that said if you think it enough, it will happen?

Here's my original post from the Make Your Argument thread

12 Ways Jim Could Pop the Question When the Time Comes (most of these involve food, feel free to add your own ideas, and I’ve had way too much fun coming up with these)

In no particular order:

1. He could put the ring in her Mixed Berries yogurt

2. He could put the ring in Jell-o (not my idea, read it somewhere else on the boards)

3. He could get Steve to help him put the ring in the vending machine (nickels included of course)

4. He could put it in an ice cube so she’d find it while enjoying her “second drink”

5. He could ask her on a Booze Cruise in January

6. He could have her stay late, make her grilled cheese, they eat on the roof, sway to the ipod and then he asks her

7. He could insert it into her copy of Michael’s next screenplay

8. He could steal Andy’s cell phone, change the ring to his proposal, throw it in the ceiling, and have her call it

9. He could mention to Michael or Kelly that he was thinking of asking her and they would, inevitably, mention it to her

10. He could get Dwight to dress up as Jim, get Dwight to say, “Pam, do you want to marry me, because I’m you boyfriend, Jim Halpert?” to which Jim would say, “Do you?” and pull out the box with the ring (I bet that Dwight would do it, after all, he does like Pam and when he finds out Jim knows about him and Angela…)

11. He could bring her to the beach and ask her while standing on hot coals (no wait, that’s how Dwight could pop the question to Angela)

12. He could put the ring in a can of coke

There are so many possibilities.

How will the men of Dunder-Mifflin propose?

Reluctantly.

Dwight will ask Angela in Elfin (sp?)... and she'll actually know what he's saying!



Michael and Jan:

Jan: Michael, I'm pregnant.
Michael: What? I thought you were taking those... pills...
Jan: You mean birth control? No, I haven't taken those in months. I told you, Michael. I couldn't take them with the pain killers for the boob job. We talked about this. I told you we'd have to use something else because--
Michael: Well, great, that's just... great. **sigh** Alright, well, I guess we better get married or something.
Jan: Yes, I think we should.


**fast-forward to the honeymoon (at Sandals Resort in Jamaica)**

Jan: Michael, I have something to tell you. Now, don't be angry.
Michael: Oookaaay...
Jan: I'm not pregnant.
Michael: Oh, God! We lost the baby! I knew you shouldn't have taken that sip of champagne at the reception!
Jan: No, Micahel. I never was pregnant. I lied.
Michael: What? You... you lied? That's not something to lie about, Jan.
Jan: I know, Michael, I just... I wanted to be married, adn it didn't seem like you were going to ask me anytime soon, so...
Michael: **under his breath** aw, crap.
Jan: What did you say, Michael?
Michael: uh, nothing. I said I love you. Very much. **nods**



Andy and his girlfriend:

Andy: So, Jamie, when do you turn eighteen?

Lenny, your list is great and would love to see any one of them. I think it would be Valentine's Day (February sweeps.)

I think it'd be awesome if he were to enlist the documentary crew to make a JAM video with all of their footage and show it to her so they can relive the sorrows AND joys and then he'd turn to her after and pop the question. They could actually reward some worthy flan, filmmaker and use one of their videos.

Probably oversteps the boundaries of the documentarians but what the hey, they have all the footage and we know they are JAM fans.

edit: meant to add that in the end, I hope it is something that takes us by surprise and leaves us breathless.

as much as I love the ideas!! ( the Jello one was mine I think )

I really would hate to see it happen this season. I just think that would be to much like the "F" word, and not the office. I don't know just what I want, but I do know what I do not want and I know that if there is a JAM engagement during this season my faith in the writers will be no more.

Now in fanfic and in my mind they are already married, and I want that thought to stay there!!

I agree with you regarding it not being S4, PH. When I wrote, I was thinking of a future Valentine's Day not so much the one in 2008. I think they can afford to prolong it for awhile.

Oh well then that changes my thoughts!!! Me too, they have enough material to prolong to for a while... heck like Jenna said, they may not end up together. They will keep them together for as long as it seems true and they will not keep them together for longer then they need to be. ( and you know as long as both of them are happy I will be fine with that!!)

Sorry, I am sensitive to said subject becasue well many people believed that they will be engaged by the end of this season ( gag me)

How do they propose??? Using their mouth and hopefully a good vocabulary

And for men.. that is asking alot

I resemble that.

No. I have given it a lot of thought, and finally settled on this:

Dwight has had the ring for a while. Actually, he has had since Dwangela's first "date", or what he considers to be a date. He had Mose dig it out of the barn loft the following morning. It had been his mother's, and her mother's before that, and her mother's before that, and so on, but because Dwight had only brothers, the ring was discarded by his father when his mother passed away. Dwight carries the ring around with him always, because even though Angela doesn't hit everything on his checklist, he is willing to make an exception for his petite monkey.
One morning after driving her to church (he doesn't mind so much anymore), he decides that today is the day. He has Mose create a clearing behind the farmhouse; far from the place he outran a black pepper snake. Dwight prepares a beet-less picnic because he knows that Angela detests beets, even though she pretends to enjoy them for his sake. He spreads a blanket and thoroughly douses it with bug spray and Bear-be-gone, because there is no precaution he would not take to protect his Angela. He knows she doesn't approve of his taste in music, so he has Mose play his accordion behind a particularly large tree. That way he can watch out for bears, because he doesn't completely trust the Bear-be-gone spray, since it was Jim who sold it to him, and it smells like spray paint.
He picks her up from church, and she senses his nervousness. When asked, he replies that Mose was bitten by a rabid squirrel, and he was just worried. He knows it is a bad lie, but he never did do well under her gaze. Thankfully, she drops the subject. But when he leads her to the clearing under the pretense of showing her the latest modification he made to the plow, she stops; she just stands there, looking at him as if waiting for him to say something. He stammers something about the plow, and then she finally relents and rounds the corner of the farmhouse. He follows, and they stand together on the blanket. Angela asks about the paint smell, and he quickly replaces the drenched blanket. Mose would just have to be extra attentive. He begins to unpack the picnic, and she is clearly pleased with him.
He drops the ring in the potato salad, and she pretends not to notice. He is so nervous he almost leaves, but he manages to get the words out. She says yes of course, but did you really doubt that I wanted to marry you? He doesn't answer, just slips the ring on her finger.


Yes, I realize I have a lot of time on my hands....but I am a Dwangevangelist.

I enjoyed the rest of yours as well, Receptionist!!!

As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I thought Pam had made it.

OMG how did I KNOW you were going to say that!

Just think of this thread as a sign

Now that there might just be the most beautiful, wonderful, romantic, amazing, thougtful and loving gesture in the history of gestures.
mybestfriend, I vote you get in touch with nbc to pitch this to them, for season 5-ish.



Braaavo Cate the Great, this is awesome!!!

I loved this receptionist. It is completely Michael and Jan.



I couldn't remember who it was that said it but I loved the idea. Also, I'm in agreement with the "no engagement this season" crowd. I was over on the PD (or was it the JP) the other day and there were so many people (okay maybe it was like two or three) who were making arguments for a Christmas engagement. After that I was thinking, maybe Valentine's Day at the earliest but I don't think it will happen this season (Pam dated Roy for something like six years before getting engaged and Jim's longest relationship that was a legitimate relationship was six months and two weeks with Karen; Dwight and Angela have been going out for more than a season and a half and Ryan and Kelly dated for more than a year too so I don't see any quick engagements unless they're like the one receptionist posted for Michael and Jan.



I loved this story for Dwight and Angela. It's so detailed, I can picture it perfectly.

And mybestfriend, it would be great for NBC to have a contest to come up with the proposal video (but at the same time I think that the timing of any proposal will be very well concealed for surprise).

More scenarios-

Kevin proposing to Stacy:
They're out at dinner one night and they're eating their dessert.
Kevin: So, you want to get married?
Stacy: Yeah, I do.
Kevin: Really? Niiiiccceee. Wait, you know that I'm talking about you marrying me, right?
Stacy: Yes, Kevin. I want to marry you.
Kevin: Niiicccceeee.

Dwight and Angela:
In the break room, backs to one another.
Dwight: Angela, I've been meaning to ask this for a while…
Angela: Not now, Kelly's coming.
Dwight: But I want to do this now.
Angela: Wait…
Dwight: Angela will you marry me?
Kelly: What?! You guys are getting married? But Dwight's been flirting with me all week.
Dwight: Angela, it was only to keep our love a secret.
Angela: Yes Dwight. I know, and I will marry you.

Okay, not nearly as good as Cate's scenario; clearly I'm going to have to work on these some more.
I'll be baaaccckkk. Kevin Nealon.

All I want is to here Dwight say.

" Angela you are my evil little hobbit!!!"

If it doesn't make it into his proposal I'm sure he'll work it into his vows somehow.

LOL!!!

Yeah, I don't see an engagement season 4 or anything, for anyone--no need to rush the ring on the finger just yet. This does not apply to Michael & Jan because you really never know what Michael will do.

You almost made me spit Dr Pepper on my monitor!

That was HILARIOUS!

Just a thought, but maybe Pam will be the one to ask Jim (who cries and is speechless). Kelly will proclaim it to be once again, patheticville, but Pam gets the last laugh in the fact that she’s happy while Kelly continues to drop “subtle” hints to Ryan (whose breakup she has once again refused to accept as real). Dwight overhears and can’t help but blurt out, “The man is supposed to do that.” Angela shakes her head and in a talking head says, “That’s something I would never do. Only hussies do things like that. But I am happy for her.” Toby would only hear the racket from the annex, hang his head, and go back to work. Michael would try to take credit for motivating her to do it. Phyllis would collect her winnings from Kevin (she knew exactly how it would happen and Kevin gave her 10,000 to 1 odds). Andy would just yell out “Tuna!” or “Haircut!” (Andy has consistently shown that he reverts back to his previous behaviors). Stanley asks, “Can you keep it down? I’m on the phone.” Oscar offers his congratulations to the happy couple and the use of his timeshare if they ever need to get away. Kevin just says “Niiiicccceee.” Todd Packer shows up, is still shocked that Jim isn’t gay, and hits on a now single Karen who promptly quits. Meredith pulls a bottle of champagne out of the drawer in her desk to toast the couple even though it’s only 10 am. Creed just looks at Pam and asks, “Have we met?”

Okay, I realize that I'm bumping my own thread but I think it's about time we opened it up a little. For all those members who are married, have been married, or are getting married, how did you propose or how were you proposed to? After all, if it weren't for fans like us, the people of Dunder Mifflin might not still be around.

My future wife had stayed the night over at my house. I woke up before her and she looked so sweet lying there on the pillow with the morning light streaming in from the window.

She woke up and I asked her if she wanted to skip work and drive up into the mountains to get married. She said 'Sure'. I said 'I'm serious'. She screamed 'Yes!'.

We stopped by the office (we both worked in the same place) and we each told our managers we were going to take the day off to get married. We both got asked the same question - 'Who are you getting married to?'.

No one in our office had a clue we were even dating. This is despite us having lunch together every day.

I took her on a weeklong vacation. We drove up the coast, camped along the way, then stayed at a really nice place in San Francisco. I made reservations at a really nice steakhouse for the big night. Of course they sat us right by the kitchen and the first vision in my head was me down on one knee either tripping a server or getting run over, so I asked to move pretty quickly.

I was pretty nervous during dinner and finally went down on one knee and popped the question. Before she could answer, a lady sitting by us chimed in with something like "I wish I had a camera" my gf/future wife answered her with "me too". Meanwhile I am still down on my knee sweating bullets and I had to ask her a second time.

I got the answer I was looking for "Of course"

Awww, those are really cute stories! RC, I love that no one in your office knew - how funny! More stories, please!

And then I will go cry myself to sleep...

Jim comes running into the conference room where Pam is chatting up the camera crew.

Jim motions to the cameramen and apologizes for interrupting then he says:
"Pam, are you free for the rest of your life?"
to which she responds "YES"
Jim says "Okay, then it's a wedding"

Season 4 finale right there.

I love this.

And keep the stories coming. I'm probably being selfish, but I need a nice uplifting topic like this to help me get through the summer.

That is so romantic! Aww.......

I kind of ruined my husband's proposal, unintentionally. Every year his company has a big Christmas party--I have to wear a long dress, he has to wear a tux. We would get a hotel room and stay in the city since the party was on Thursday night and we both had to work the next day. I have the worst eyesight ever, and am blind without my glasses. So we meet after work and check into the room and I'm sitting on the bed and he says, sit down, I need to talk to you, and for some stupid reason, I said, "Do I need my glasses for this?" and he said yes, and I knew right away. I don't know how, but I knew. So then he sat down next to me and he had one of those ring boxes that look like a rose, with the stem and all, so then I definitely knew. But I didn't say anything and he gave me his speech (I barely remember it from the shock) and I said yes and we took advantage of the room . Then we got dressed and went to the party and everyone was looking at us and I realized that he had told them all that he was going to ask me before the party, so there were about four hundred strangers congratulating us, especially after the band stopped the party to announce our engagement!

Thanks!

It was funny when we were dating, I spent a few weeks asking innocent questions about her thoughts on eloping (her answers were all positive).

We still laugh about how clueless our co-workers were. I worked a slightly later shift then she did, but I'd stop off, get breakfast and come in early and we'd have breakfast together in the breakroom. We had lunch together every day.

My job was engineering support for her department. Her co-workers would always send her over to talk to me with problems. They'd say 'You seem to be friends with the support guy, why don't you bring this problem to him'.

She once got caught sending me coded messages on the computer. She quickly changed our naughty secret acronymns to something work related and her boss never knew.

That's a great story!!!

There are no innocent questions, my dear!

Hi all -

I am in total love with all your proposal ideas. I don't have the creativity to top - heck, even compete - with your ideas.

All I can do is share my story, which I still think is pretty special....

My hubby and I hail from a small town, and at the time (1991) we probably made about fifteen bucks between us. So a very special date for us was driving to the big city an hour away (Ft. Wayne, Indiana) and eating hoity toity seafood - ala RED LOBSTER!!!

His birthday was Friday, December 13th, 1991. We dressed up as nicely as possible and drove to the city so I could take him out to eat.

Unbeknownst to me, he had his sister follow 10-15 minutes behind us, bringing a big vase of flowers. As we sat at our booth, holding hands, gazing in each other's eyes, the hostess walked over to our table to deliver the flowers. I was embarrassed and indignant. "I did not order any flowers for my boyfriend! Take them away!" She hesitated and asked again. I emphatically told her the flowers were not for my table. I could tell people were staring, and I felt my face redden with embarrassment. She had a troubled, confused look on her face as she turned to leave our table carrying the vase full of perfect red roses.

My fiance-to-be quietly caught her attention and motioned, yes, you have the right table. She placed them gently on the table and walked away. I was dumbfounded. "What is this?" "Why don't you read the card?"

I looked at the flowers. Twelve beautiful and large red roses. And a smaller, though no less perfect, white rose in the middle of the vase. Thirteen roses in all. So I removed the small card which read, "My love for you can be found within the depths of the white rose." I looked at him. He was grinning ear-to-ear and encouraged me to look at the white rose. I had to pull it towards me to peer inside.

And there inside the depths of the white rose was a beautiful and perfect diamond ring, radiating its brilliant light into my eyes. I heard gasps from the table around me. I let the flower snap out of my fingers to its upright position, as if in incredulous unbelief.

And there - in a booth at Red Lobster, the hoity toity lobster joint, my husband asked me to be his wife. ***sigh***

I only have a poleroid of that night that is beginning to wear out with time, but the vision of the ring in that rose is forever etched in my mind.

Sorry that's so long, but it's enjoyable to relive now and again. So thanks for reading.

Okay, I was trying to fall asleep last night and found myself thinking about the boards and this thread in particular and it dawned on me that this is exactly how Dwight and Angela will get married, complete with the coworkers' reactions (only Jim and Pam will have a clue and you know that they won't say anything until a bewildered Toby goes to find Angela and ask why she's been signing things Angela Schrute which Kelly will overhear and then the cat will really be out of the bag).



This was such a romantic story. Before you lose the picture forever you should scan it into the computer or something. I'm sure that there are places that will be able to help restore it (it's one of those keepsakes that you want to be able to pass on to future generations or just show off to people who brag about their own love lives; that story will probably win the better part of the time).

I messed up my husband's proposal as well, and I feel really awful about it now.
Because of some other issues going on at the time, we had already set our wedding date before it was actually an official engagement. (By his family's standards. A plan to get married means nothing without an engagement ring )
I had told him for a long time that I had always dreamed of getting engaged at the Botanical Gardens in San Francisco. We planned a trip there, and so I thought he'd propose. He didn't, and I was furious. Then a few weeks later he made a big deal about getting together for dinner one night. I went out and bought a special outfit and did the "fru fru works," thinking that this was 'it'. Still nothing. After a while I completely put it out of my mind.
Then one night he picked me up not long after I got home from work. I was sweaty and icky and just wanted to go to bed. I got in the car and there was a rose across my seat. He said he wanted to take me to dinner. So funny that Cowgirl Up mentioned Red Lobster, because that's where he wanted to go! I said no, I wanted to go to someplace where I could just get a burger or something, which really disappointed him, but he said okay. We went to a Bar & Grill, then back to his parents' house, where he was living at the time.
He wanted to go for a walk up the hill. It was the first week of November and absolutely freezing outside, and I was about as annoyed as I could be. I huff and puffed up the hill to sit up there in the near- pitch black, only to have him suddenly get down on one knee and say "Will you marry me?" and present me with a ring that it was too dark to see.
I was always really annoyed that he didn't propose at the Botanical Gardens like I had wanted him to, but we put pretty big romantic expectations on our men sometimes, don't we?

Bumping my own thread is a little shameless but I'm being a little selfish right now. I want more stories to read.

You want more stories.. here's mine.

I had been seeing my now fiance for several months. I had been in a bad relationship and I actually met my fiance while I was dating my ex. We got to talking and we didn't like each other at first but we talked and got to know each other quickly and discovered that we really liked each other and connected. So, after my ex and I were done things with my fiance heated up even more. And it wasn't special really. We talked about it and one day he said we've gone through too much and I don't want to lose you so your going to marry me. Not a huge romantice production. But even though it was very blunt it was full of his english charm. I just said yes. He asked if I was sure and I just nodded and said yes I'm sure. Little did I know though that this man who at times doesn't act very romantic had planned to ask me for some time and he designed my engagment ring and our wedding bands. I had no idea that he had been doing that and the thought that went into it. So I got a sort of demand proposal and a goregous designed ring he did for me.

If Toby were to propose to Pam it might go something like this…

Toby (sits down next to Pam in the break room fiddling with the engagement ring): Hey Pam.
Pam: Hey Toby.
Toby: I’ve got a question for you.
Pam: What’s up?
Toby: Well… um…
Pam: Oh my God. Where did you find that ring? Did you call to police to report you found it?
Toby: Well, no, actually…
Pam: You should call. A ring that nice, there’s probably a reward for it or something.
Toby: Actually, I bought it. It’s an engagement ring.
Pam: I didn’t even know you were seeing someone. How are you going to ask her?
Toby: Well, as a matter of fact, that’s what I was going to ask you about.
(Jim pops his head into the break room)
Jim: Hey Pam (sees Toby) Oh, hi Toby. (turns attention back to Pam) I guess, it can wait until you’re done in here.
Pam: Okay, yeah. I’ll be there in a minute (turns her attention back to Toby after Jim leaves) What was it you wanted to ask me?
Toby: Um, you know, I forgot.
Pam: Well, (getting up) you know where to find me when you remember. And whoever the lucky girl is, she’s going to love that ring.

Pam leaves break room and makes a bee-line for Jim’s desk where he shows her that he’s gotten in touch with a relative of Dwight’s who sent him a picture of Dwight wearing his Sith lord costume with his purple belt from karate and is in an intimidating pose holding the light saber, (something meant for Angela maybe). Both start laughing as they head off to the copy machine. Toby mumbles something about when he snaps, Michael, and Costa Rica as he heads back to his desk in the annex with the ring back in his pocket.

Okay, I'm bumping this thread in light of last night's amazing episode. How do you think Jim is going to propose to Pam now that we've all seen the ring?

How will you pop the question,
Mr. Halpert, sir?

We all want to know, sir,
when and where you'll go, sir.

Will you ask her in a box?
Will you ask her like a fox?

Will you ask her while at work,
where your desk mates tend to lurk?

Will you do it over lunch,
by yourselves , or in a bunch?

In the crowded Conference Room
or the Parking Lot of Doom?

Will you try to anticipate her,
catch her in the elevator?

Will you ask her over dinner,
a grilled cheese your way to win her?

Will you ask her on the phone
when's at her desk alone?

Or announce for all to hear
your intentions are sincere?

Will you take her to the roof
and spring the ring as proof?

Or will you announce your amour
somewhere we haven't seen before?

We simply cannot wait, sir,
to see how you'll elate her!

That was absolutely brilliant MJ!

MJ!!! That was awesome!!!!

I vote for on the roof top, but I don't really care as long as we get to see it!

I know this is a non-spoiler area, but I hope he doesn't do it at the end of the season finale and then we don't get to see her reaction for 4 months a la Casino Night. That would be too cruel!

MJ, the Seussical poem was sublime and made my day.

I always wanted the rooftop first date or proposal but they have now revisited that venue. I also think if he asked her to the roof, it would clue her in. I think it'll be something we never would guess in a million years and so the audience will be just as blown away as Pam. I suspect that there will be more than one more fake out just to get us going.

By the way we have heard about passion and Italian food but have not yet heard the L word (other than Casino Night). I think we ought to get that pay off before the ring is presented.

I was thinking about this in the car today and I kind of want him to ask her in the parking lot where he first told her he was in love with her on Casino Night. I understand that there are a lot of bad memories and stuff but I think it could reclaim some of those slightly painful memories.

MJ, you've just made my season!
I've missed these boards for just this reason!

I'm eager to see Halpert's plan;
It may involve the cameraman --

-- and, better yet, another friend
Who fills up those machines that vend.

When Pam presses buttons "E - 6"
What will drop instead of Twix?

ooooh, I love that idea! if we see a bag of nickels on his desk.....
so nice to see you jamalot!





Thanks, everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed it, it usually takes me a while, but this time it just popped right out

Oh... i get it, this was perfect pammy!! very witty i would LOVE to see that! (too bad took forever for me to see this.)

!!BRAVO PAMCASSO!!