Sharpie! I'm so excited for you!

Ewewew. Definitely not Michael.

Yay for you, Sharpie! That sounds so sweet!

Good for you Sharpie !

Ok, so close to our house (like up the street) is this convenience store--kinda sketchy place. I go there to get sodas/drinks sometimes and have felt that a few guys that work there are kinda sweet on me or something. They are all not my type, BTW, plus I'm only 16 and I don't really want to date or anything.

Any ways, there is this one guy--looks kinda like that Sylar guy (totally not my genre)--and he's always been like extra friendly to me, always asks how I'm doing and such, which is not normal for Quebecers/Montrealers let alone the guys that work in that connivence store.

Now, I usually brush these things off as being friendly, but the other day I went up to get some sodas for me and my sister and while I was paying he said "Vous avez un visage d'ange" which in english is "You have a face of an angel" . Now I now he is definitely sweet on me, I am so not going back there !

when are you going out sharp?? We all want the details. And alwys carry enough cash with you so if you need to make a fast getaway you can.

I talked to the brit. We have plans to do the huge sit down talk. You've all been so great with advice and all. I'm still alittle unsteady on my feet about everything that's gone on. We only spoke on the phone, he's feeling ill and no I didn't wish karma to do that to him. I pressed him about him staying together and he said we are and I need to stop worrying. I just don't think I can with what's gone on. I have to call him alittle later again, he said it's my job to look after him. He was joking when he said it, but I know there is some truth to that. ugh, men.

Awwww that is so sweet I can see how they freaked you out but if that was me, I'd keep coming back . The French language is so romantic.

Awww Sharpie I'm so happy for you . I hope things work out for you, as he sounds really sweet.

It's not only his decision if you guys stay together. You need to be an equal in this relationship. Take back some power.

Well, first of all, she is a senior in high school and I'm sophomore in college. She's not a very illuminating person in conversation if you get my drift. And I'm not attracted to her. She's a socialite and I'd rather just hang out with close friends.

It's just not a good fit. If I went on a date with her I would be leading her on which is the last thing I want to do.

Don't do it. You've given enough reasons not to.

Well that sounds mighty familiar...



I'm just kidding, BTB!

Nah...not really. I haven't liked someone in a long time. And that's not true VB, we all ADORE YOU!


Lol! I don't think I'll have to worry about a getaway. I know him from high school, he was in the class below me. ('05) We're going to see I am Legend when it comes out and I'm sure we'll do something before then because that's two weeks away.

You all are so sweet Thank you!

I called he's sick. His throat is sore and he sounds bad. So I'm going to leave him alone tonight to rest. He's even let his daugther stay with her friend tonight since he feels so bad. I guess I can shed alittle sympathy.

Oh going to so a semi scary movie sharp. will there be cuddling?

You better have a BIG talk soon though, Liz.


LOL! It's not a scary movie! (I hope so ....wow...I have it bad.)

Hey, I was nice enough to take your advice and now this? Very disappointing.

Hottest knows what it's like to be put on the BTB1 blacklist so you may want to consult her on how emotionally traumatizing it is...I wouldn't wanna have to put you through that.

Ya, it was sweet, but he's not my type and a lot older than me. The guys that work there are sleazy, I much prefer the guys were I go swing dancing, they are pretty much all real nice and also gentleman.



Ya, you definitely don't want to lead her on. Go with your gut--there are more nerve endings there then in your brain !



Sounds like fun Sharpie, hope you have fun and keep us posted!

I am going to have the BIG talk soon. Atleast the MIA put the fear into him alittle.


BTB agree with carnivale, don't lead her on, she's only a kid really. It doesn't seem like it but the differences are pretty big.

No, I thought Michael was maybe the guy who said he loved you.

So who is the guy and what's going on???? I need details.


Well, he is very observant - you do! It does make you feel good, even if you don't like the person when you get a sweet compliment like that.


That's very wise and deep of you. And I am very proud and impressed that you didn't say something like, "She's fat."


*sniff* Thanks, you're the only one. There really is no one out there. Not that I get out anymore.

Sharpie, that's really nice. I want to know everything about him. What are his plans for the future? Is he going to school? And most importantly, does he like The Office??????

Go ahead and do it. Everyone needs to have at least 1 excruciatingly horrible date in their lives, so they'll be able to recognize a good one.

Physician, heal thyself...

Fair enough. BTB, have you already had an excruciatingly horrible date in your life? If not, here is your chance!!

And Jazzman, you can share with us at any time about your situation if you so desire. Sometimes it makes it a little easier to get an outsider's opinion.

Maybe someday, but today is not the day.

No problem. I have a bunch of relationship worries myself that I am saving in the hopes that things get better. Even though I know things won't get better until it is the two of us again, no social workers, no lawyers, no one but us. I just wish I knew when that was going to be.

Ha ha! He's an art student. A really good one. We seem to be pretty compatible so far...but I mean, we've only just started talking. I remember him from HS, but I wasn't really interested in him at the time and he was shy. I think he's gotten over that stage. You would think that TO would be a prereq for dating me....but I haven't asked him yet. If things go farther I will subject him to each and every episode and if he doesn't like it then...well...I guess we aren't meant to be.


Jazzy you intrigue me. I want to know...but I will wait. Also wedd I hope and pray that your life becomes easier soon, not just for you and Tom, but also for Jay.

Aww, that's so sweet ! Thanks! Ya, it does feel nice to get a compliment like that from someone you don't know. I don't really get any real compliments often--not that I want any or anything--so it's real nice to get one that isn't an insult on ones self or from your family or something.

Sharpie, this guy sounds swell! Hope he likes TO!

jazz is a enigma.

I've found a new reason to yell at the brit, I'll share later after I yell at him. I'm going to call him in a bit and give him he11

Haha okay I'll be nicer, I swear!

I was not emotionally traumatized!

Step 1: Denial...

It's upsetting that you would wish emotional trauma on me.

I wouldn't wish it on you, never would I wish it. It was just a bi-product of the punishment that I was forced to dish out. I apologize.

And by the way, you have now entered...

Step 2: Sadness

Let's just hope you don't hit stage 3!!!

Stage 3 is anger, right?

You're a meanie.

OH NO!!!

Stage 3 is not knowing the stages...

It's moving quickly!

Oh BTB, these "stages" are freaking me out a little bit. I will remember to never ever get on your bad side. I dont even want to hear what stage 4 is.

Brit didn't do what he said he would. I called him out on it. I had one to mnay glasses of wine. I tell him about my day abou the road workers hooting at me, he tells me he takes free coffees or what ever when ladies offer! Other women flirting with hopes and he takes the free stuff they offer! I got mad. I cried he got mad cause he said i started it trying to make him jealous. I cried more. I broke down with the whole why don't you find me exciting anymore then speil. he gave me a stern lecture. So I asked him nicely to not take free things from women cause if i took things from a man it wouldn't be right. he's agreed to stop. I got another lecture on i need to not make big deals out of that stuff, I quote "I love you, and you love me, nothing esle matters" And then another lecture on why I need to stop blaming myself for things that arent't my fault. He admitted he screwed up big time. I had more wine.

Oh, liz, you have so much drama going on! He shouldn't take free things, neither should you. I think he is way too casual about your feelings. Saying "I love you, you love me" is great, but it doesn't solve all the problems in the world. Ever hear that Patty Smyth/Don Henley song Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough. It's sad but true and he needs to wake up.

No offense, Liz, but have you considered decaf??

i'm not offended Jazz and would you believe I don't have caffine unless I get coffees. I'm a very highly strung person when it comes to emotions. I cry easily, I get mad easily. I had a emotional break down a few years ago an the things that I could hide, I can't anymore, so now it all comes pouring out.

There were lots of things we talked about today. Progress actually. 2 adults sitting and actually talking. I'm pleased with what got said and changed. We were both happy with the results and we both had this quiet moment and out of no where he said "I miss this, I miss you. It feels like the begining again. You know your my friend as well, we gotta be. With out us being friends and becoming best friends going through life together wouldn't be worth it. lizzy you know your that to me. Your more than that to me." I hadn't realized on my part that he did think of me like that. He's never given me reason to think it. I felt hugely embaressed for my behavior at different times. With everything that was talked about today, I feel so much better that we cleared up all these different bad and misunderstood situations.

I would also like say, I have never taken anything free from another man. I would never accept it, I'm with the brit and taking a gift from another man might send mixed signals and I think it disrespects the brit. The brit thinks I'm alittle too old fashioned on this aspect, but he did it, didn't tell me and then told me when upset. It was to hurt my feelings cause he knew it would. It did. Now he gets why atleast

^^^ Liz, it sounds like things are starting to get better. I hope you guys have more of these talks, and are able to keep on communicating like this. I'm happy for you.



That's so cool Sharpie! I already like him.

Aww, that is so sweet! Good for you!

Ooohh sharp a art student. He must have a deep romantic side side to him. I don't know about you, but that sounds very nice to me. Lucky girl sharp!

Thanks QOE and Wedd. You know your with someone and you have your friends and they have theirs you can sometimes not even think about the friend aspect in your relationship. I never really had. You got so caught up in the lust at first. and you settle in as a couple. I had to really think about it when he said that. And even though andera is like my best friend, Nick really is my best friend. I share so much more with him. It's cheesey isn't it to say that, but all the fighting aside he's the one person who always loves me for me and I can trust him with anything.

I'm going to learn how to chill more, but that's not say there aren't more issues to deal with considering his fmaily and my own.

I think he must. He drew this on my facebook wall.




That's a cute story Liz, I'm glad you realized he's your best friend.

As a musical form, it most certainly is.

Oh, me? Not so much an enigma as complicated. I'm not an easy person to understand. Even I have problems with it.

If he asks you to "come up to look at his etchings", or suggests that you pose for him, run like h*ll.

Intriguing? Moi? I've been called a lot of things in my life (most of which I can't post here), but intriguing is one that I don't recall hearing before.

oh, I like that pic he drew, it's nice and somewhat telling at the same time.
I'm still on cloud 9 from our conversation yesterday. It's had such a powerful impact on me. I feel so giddy and don't hate me but I can't help but smile from ear to ear when I think of him now. We're sneaking in some alone time in a bit. He's having to babysit one of his daughters little friends, her parents are going out of town tonight and she's staying at the brits tonight. So alone time now and phone later. I'm not disappointed we won't have more alone time now cause I'm still too happy to be

I'm so glad you are doing better Liz. It sounds like you got some stuff out there that needed to be said and now you both have a better idea of how you feel about each other.

BTB we really did.

With all that had gone on and him running off, I felt like I didn't mean much to him. Little did I know all of what he said to me the other day was just under the surface. We had a nice little chat together this afternoon, did some cuddling I just looked at him and just stared at him. it really hit me, this man loves me. For all I am and will be and the craziness that comes with me, he loves me and he's been with me and is here now. I can't ever be so stupid to think he doesn't.

On a side note, part of chat centered around a friend of his who confessed to having a fling with another friends live in girl friend. She gave him the house key and all and for nearly 6 months they've been having this affair. Nick is very upset and wish he didn't know. He told this friend to stop the affair and forget about her depsite what she says. No good will come of it. It brought up some painful memories of one of his ex friends who had a affair with his ex(his daugthers mom) and he caught them in bed.
Thats a story and half. I'll only tell it if anyone wants to hear it.

I have VERY strong feelings about cheating, so I'm interested to hear this, if you are willing to share.

sure.

This all took place years and years ago. nick and sarah his ex had dated a few years were living together. She was 7 yrs younger than him and he went out of the country to work for a few months. He was in Ireland doing some sort of engeering stuff with some company. Apparently durning his away time she and his best friend were getting all close and cozy and when nick was away, he basically moved in and they carried on this affair. When nick came home it went back to her playing happy content girl friend. Well their daugther was a toddler at the time and Nick returned early and came home, went to the bed room and there they were right in the middle of you know. There was shouting and throwing things and he told her to pack her stuff (being nice) and get out. He dumped his friend and she left with their child. He then went and got checked for any std's. Luckily he didn't have anything. She threw it back in his face, he wasn't there, he didn't buy her stuff and he was being selfish and why shouldn't she if he wasn't going to marry her. Well he told her from the start he was never going to marry her. He wasn't too happy in the relationship and for the love of his child would have stayed with her so she'd have 2 parents. He left her with a place to live and gave her money for his daugther every month and she still tried her best to screw him outta money and ruin his credit by opening accounts as his wife. He was deeply hurt because she was the next relationship after his first long term GF decided to come out of closet. Yeah, so his 2 major relationship resulted in one admitting she was gay and the other sleeping behind his back. he was alone for 5 years when I poped into his life.

Wow. That is horrible. I know a girl who walked in on her boyfriend (a notorious cheater) doing the same thing. Small neighborhood, everyone knows about it, even the parents found out. She decided to stay with him and he proposed. She said yes. His father said to her, in a room full of people, "Why are you marrying my son? You're just going to catch him f****** someone else again".

She still married him and they have a 2 1/2 year old son now. I could never forgive that. Getting back to your story, the nerve of his ex to blame him. WTF? That is just terrible.

She was and is a horrible person. When he finally sold his old pub, she took him to court for half the assets. She said cause he bought it while they were together, she was entitled to half of the sale. He bought it after his accident and he needed income since his fire fighter days were over. They were never married she didn't pay for any of it, didn't help with it, but was right there when it came time to collect. She didn't get a cent, but thats the type of woman she is. I hate to say she's even a woman. He's packed in a lot of drama and living from the time he was 18. He's had too much drama.

I'm happy to know that Nick would never do that type of thing to me. Most of his friends are now in the early and mid to late 40's and they are all having a mid life crisis I think. The things his friends do and say that nick tells me, makes me sick sometimes. You have to be glad at those moments that as a woman you don't understand how the male brain works

That's a terrible story Liz. I feel really bad for Nick, but at least he has you now. So in the end he really did win out!

My best friends wife was cheating on him but he couldn't see it. We kept telling him that we thought something was up, but he'd ask her, she'd deny it and that was good enough for him.

One day he came home and found a wine glass on the table with dirty mens fingerprints on it (like the guy had been working on a car). He asked his wife and she said (seriously) "Someone must have broke in and drank a glass of wine!" He started to call the police but she had cleaned the glass off accidently. We hence-forth called the someone-breaking-in-for-drink excuse the 'Goldilocks excuse'.

He finally caught her, divorced her and now has a very cool wife.

^^ I can't believe what I read. She actually used that excuse to explain her cheating?? Some people. Nick isn't going to say a word, becuase of what sorta happened to you. He's afraid that his friend will take his GF's word until she's caught. he doesn't want to be in the middle, which he is now. I'm happy that your friend got out of that marriage and has now as you say, a cool wife.