Awww...thank you! lol. Yes, I did feel comfy and I think I looked ok, hopefully Thank you!

sounds like you had nice time though KM. I'm sure you weren't over dressed. He was proberly thinking he was under dressed.

Sounds like you had a nice time, KMBay84. It's not necessary to have a fragrance; for me, I need to have one for every mood, every season, etc.

I'm sure you looked great. I'd give him another chance unless there were some obvious red flags. First dates are usually pretty nerve-wracking, so he may not have been himself.

I'm a little weirded out. I found out this morning that I have a Facebook stalker. I'm not sure if he's the crazy kind of stalker but I did change my settings. It's been a weird day in general.

Yikes Lenny! Take care.

Thanks. I'm hoping my biting sarcasm and wit will scare him off. And if it doesn't maybe he isn't that bad. But I'm very careful about that stuff. It's why I already changed the settings.

Would you poke, if I sent you a poke?

I hope you are careful, Lenny. It's not a good idea to engage those kind of people at all, even if you are trying to scare them. Sometimes it just eggs them on.

Yeah Lenny, I agree with sammy. Stalkers don't understand sarcasm. To them, any kind of attention is encouragement.

That kid came over and it was a lot of funnnn!

Is it possible to stalk a stalker? I wonder if they would get weirded out or anything?

Ah, Glad you had a fun then jam.

I told him thanks but no thanks and am ignoring him. We'll see what happens. I'll keep you posted.

I orginally had a "date" set with a mutual guy friend for this Friday. Normally I wouldn't mind but being the chicken I am, I said yes outta pity. And yes, I'm not into him. My plan was to act like a raging pyscho over coffee so he wouldn't wanna do anything with me again . However, I got luckier than that. A few hours ago, my worked called me in, asking me to do a four hour shift. I said yes within seconds. I do feel kinda bad but maybe I'll grow a pair to the equivilant of balls so I can say no .

Regarding the TV star, it's either a walk around the seawall or martinis & karaoke depending on the weather. I'm kinda hoping for rain so we can watch drunken fools sing until they can sing no more . It's set for next Tuesday btw.

Thanks, Liz.

I don't know why he is staying with me cause I'm a raging nutcase of late. Any normal man would have been reaching for the door. And I hate to say it but I love him so much and I think would it be better for him if broke it off? He drives me crazy yes, but he's the only person who's stuck with me thick and thin and I think despite his junk, would any one else give even half a damn like he does? I don't think I'd make it alone though. Is it normal to feel that way when your life is crumbling around you?

how are things going now Jam with that boy

WE give a damn, lizzy. We want what's best for YOU.

Oh, you gotta get over that, girlfriend! You're not doing either of you any favors. Take it from one who's been there - honesty really is the best policy.

Or you could just say, "It's not you - it's me."

I know you guys do..I think I'm thinking about stuff way too much. I'm going to have to get to bed. My laundry is done and I sure could use the sleep. Im going to call him before I go to sleep.

lizzie, whatever you do can't be for him. Right now you have to concentrate on what's good for you.

Update Time:

"Kam" and I have settled into a comfortable post-intimacy, genuine friendly relationship. We talk on the phone once or maybe twice a week, and we hang out together once or maybe twice a month. She's busy with organizing her career and moving out of state in a few months and I'm gearing up for going back to grad school. There seems to be no lingering regret or resentment from either party ... I guess we're proof that it's possible (if rare) that men and women can stay friends after a relationship. Then again, we were never highly emotional during the intimacy stage ... i.e. there was no "I love her" vibe while together, hence no "I hate her" follow-up reaction after the break-up. So maybe that's the qualifier.

Anyway, it's been about a month since the relationship ended, and I'm feeling kinda like Tom Hanks did at the end of CASTAWAY (SPOILER ALERT: when he was all rescued and recovered and looking out at a literal crossroads of which direction to go next). That's sorta how I'm feeling now: rescued from the poison that was the toxic comfort zone with "Paren" (no more princesses, ever), recovered from ending the relationship with "Kam" (first weekend after was a little rough tho) and looking where to go next.

So, a week after after the breakup, I went back to the online sites I used to go on before Kam. Just to look around, no communication. First, I was a bit bummed out ... absolutely no one caught my eye. Seriously, everyone was just ... blah. I clearly wasn't ready. So I gave up that day. Went back a few weeks later, and decided to change the parameters of what I was looking for. Extended the age range, allowed for divorcees and widows, things like that. I gotta say I was surprised: most of the women who caught my eye were in their 40s! I mean, I'm not exactly young myself (just turned 32 last Friday), but I never thought that 40somethings would be this appealing to me. Many of them don't mind if the man is younger than them, but I'm younger than a lot of their age ranges. Plus, the whole long-term angle pops in at some point (I want kids of my own: as in plural), so I don't know if this is a passing fancy or if I should roll the dice anyway. Can't hurt to say hi, right? Worst case, they say "not interested" or don't reply at all.

Opinions? Girls? Guys? Dwight?

Ahhh, a man of taste and descernment. Speaking as a woman in her early 40's I'm finding that by this time most of my friends have thrown off a lot of the b.s. that plagued us when we were younger, we know what we want and don't want, and we've hopefully acquired a little wisdom along the way. As far as the age difference goes, my aunt married a guy who was 8 years younger, and it's been a true love match for 30 years. Currently I know a guy in his mid 30's who is dating a much older woman, and they're very happy. Of course it always comes down to it depending on the person. You've cast your net wider, you're just more likely to find that person. The only thing to be clear about with a woman over 40 is whether or not you're interested in a relationship that will lead to children. Even though I have plenty of friends who've had kids in their 40's, it's not the easiest thing in the world, and some women that age may already have kids, and not be interested in having young ones again. But good luck Tim!

I'm still on the block...but for how long? Start your bidding, ladies.

So, you're starting an Eligible-Bachelor Paradox thread?

interesting diapers. How much does the bidding start at? I got a 50 cent piece?

All I will say is I think we're both lucky to have one another right now.

So the pyscho approach is no good .

When I told him that I had to work tomorrow, he sent me a text wanting to know where I work so he can visit me . I was like, oh he!l no. Last thing I need to do is let this guy know where I work so he can pop by whenever he feels like it. I have this policy where I never let a guy know where I work or where I live *unless* I know there's a future, like a long term relationship. Cause y'know, if we break up & he turns out to be a nut job the last thing I need is him stalking me. Plus, I work at a daycare. It's not like I work in retail where I can take a short break & talk to him for five minutes. My supervisors would have a royal hissy fit if I ditched my job in the middle of my shift.

However, I feel that I can trust the tv star. I like him a lot .

I got a dollar. Should we be bidding for him on ebay?

Sooo here's an update! I broke it off with the bf a couple of weeks ago (with the help of you ladies! ) and haven't talked to him since! He's called a couple of times, but I didn't answer. I picked up the last time he called, and told him I'm serious, do not call again. I was very sad for awhile, and pretty lonely, but I'm starting to feel a lot better. I'm starting a new job in a week ( !) where there's a lot of people, so I'm getting excited about the possibility of several cute, single guys! It's been a lot of fun to make decisions soley for myself.

^^^^Good for you!! Glad to hear you so happy!!!

I'm so happy for you minki!! The world is yours!

Thanks Wedd! You get rid of the bad influences in your life, and all kinds of good things start happening to you

Ladies, your words have touched me, and I like to think I've touched them. After reading all 142 pages of this thread, I've come to the conclusion that you are all beautiful in your pixellated electronicness and, being single myself, I'd like to date all of you exclusively at the same time. Please give me, and my ridiculous offer, a chance. I leave you with these words of wisdom:

"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."

MajorMajorMajor!!! Long time no see!

If you're looking for a real woman, you'll have to have the strength of a grown man and a little baby.

Those sound like famous last words to me.



And yay, minkiloo!

You're gonna be okay.





Bidding?

eBay has a great "buy it now" feature. No competition.

More dating words of wisdom from a 6 year old:

So there is this girl Ciarra in Jay's class, and she really likes him. Every day when we walk away from the bus she screams "Jay! Jay, see you tomorrow!" and I tease him. Today the bus pulls up and I see them sitting next to each other. He is next to the window and she is leaning over him, waving at me like crazy even before he starts waving. She gets off the bus and is like "Hi! Hi" to me and I say hi and I get Jay and we walk away. We are literally half a block away with a major street in between us and she is still yelling after him. So I start teasing him that she likes him and that they are going to get married and he is laughing and saying no and I say, you watch, Uncle Tommy & I will be dancing at your wedding someday and he says "If she was my girlfriend one day, she'd definitely be my ex-girlfriend the next. I could only take her for one day".

So, you know, at least the kid has a plan!

Sometimes I can't believe he's 6! At least he keeps you (and us ) entertained

That is awesome, minki! Take some time for yourself, to figure out what you want. Great news about the job! I am so happy for the freedom you are now experiencing!


Aww, poor little guy! He is being kinderstalked!

I think I'm going to have that guy that came over last Saturday to come over again.

I don't want to buy diapers now..I'd like to drive the bidding up on him. Diapers could then walk around with a puffed up chest swollen with pride. That, and the money money we spend the more he has to do for all of us

wedd. That was so funny.

Wow major you want to date everyone here? well your calendar will be full.

PIP why not give the guy the address to a trannie bar? God, I'm mean. No, I think a simple explantion as to why should be enough for him.

I didn't give the brit my number til he gave me his. And he did and it was real! Surprised as well since I called him a giant a-hole. But I guess he thought I was worth it.

Liz, I look forward to your posts because the majority of them make me laugh & this one is no exception. I do know of a popular tranny night club, but I'm sure he's heard of it too. D@mn .

I think he's gotten the hint but if he does call again, I'm gonna be straight up with him. After all, he's wasting my mobile minutes & texts .

^^ that should be your next text...your wasting my moblie mins and texts.

I'm not a polite girl. Proberly why I had more guy friends. I'm not super girly or nice in certain situations. Others, I get walked on.
I did tell a guy once that I wasn't interested by saying, well if I wanted to date you I'd have to date your mother and since you can't cut the apron strings I'm not into kinky 3 ways.

Then you should have started out higher than 50 cents!

Well I'm starting low and building up higher.

I'd have to throw in a free toaster or something to drive up the bidding. I'm one of the notably imperfect men that they mention in the article. Let's see if I can find the exact quote...

The pool of appealing men shrinks as many are married off and taken out of the game, leaving a disproportionate number of men who are notably imperfect (perhaps they are short check, socially awkward check?, underemployed I get by).

I would also add bald, insecure and sometimes immature.

Did anybody bother to read the story? I would add that a lot of it has to do with poor timing. Women who attend college (and more women are attending than men now) effectively remove themselves from the dating pool for 4-6 years while the girls who didn't go lasso the men of their choice.

Another thing... Men's criteria are much different than women's. I like to think that I'm the exception because I have unrealistically high standards. I'm looking for a best friend and a lover to grow old with and raise children with me (who just happens to be witty, attractive and a blast to be around). I think that more men (not all) are like my buddy. He's a pretty good looking guy who was dating three girls when he met his wife. She was the one who put out, so he let the other two go. Of course, now he has to beg and plead and shower her with gifts just to get some once a month, but I guess that's also part of the game.

I did. I can't decide whether I got out of the game too early or waited too long.

Okay so the article is saying because I didn't go to college, I was able to find a decent guy who happens to be english, tall, fit, and a exfire who is well off. If they had told me that in high school I wouldn't have bothered with all the testing before I chose not to attend.

make it a blender diapers..Ive got 2 toasters

I've never heard you complain, so I figured your timing was perfect.

A lot of these theories are BS, but they're sort of fun to toss around (like a Koosh ball!). There's a little bit of truth to it because I know several very attractive, very successful women who should be able to land any man they want, but for some reason still haven't found an available one that they'd settle on. I don't know if they're waiting for the next round of divorces or what, but meanwhile... 40's right around the corner. Then 50... BTW - I don't think 40 and 50 are old at all. I'm stressing the fact that I want kids and I know a few of them do too because we've talked about it.

Was that mean? I'm sort of in a mean mood. See... I think I fit the bill pretty well, but these girls didn't put themselves through school and bust their butts in the corporate world to become successful just to settle for a short, bald dude who knows a few jokes.

There's a lot to be said for picking fights with strangers in bars.

Foreman grill?

Well let's be realistic, if you're in your 40's, you're less likely to find a guy who still looks like a college athlete anyway, (and that includes hair!)

I've got a friend, my college roommate in fact, who's 41 and never been married. She's always been interested, and always wanted kids. She even considered having one on her own when she hit her mid 30's, (she didn't). She's highly educated, and worked in DC for NASA and the State Dept. , and been very successful professionally. Her problem, (yeah, I'm oversimplifying), has been that she's stayed in a couple of long-term relationships years after she should have cut and run. I think women do that a lot, regardless of education, profession, etc.

Yeah, I think the article way oversimplified the forces at work. Anthropologists would have a field day with it.

I'm sure that happens all the time. Part of me wants to blame men for stringing women along and women for allowing themselves to be played, but I'm sure that, more often than not, it's a lot more mutual than that. They're serious, but not ready to get married. Then a few years later, they're not so serious anymore, and it's not because either one of them did something wrong.

Another factor, which is linked to that article on the same site, is location. Successful women are often more willing to move into the big cities while men are happier out in the sticks. Veebs' map proved that. If I just moved about a half-hour from here in any direction, I'd be swimmin' in women. I'm right in the center of the little blue dot above Chicago and below Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha. ...But I'm now planning on moving to New York.

Game? There was a game? Did I win or lose?


Wow, and I was gonna tell you what a cool map that was.

I'm in the middle of a medium sized red dot. I like the sticks. I like the city. I could do either. There is just nothing here. I gotta get me a blue dot. I dunno. I always wanted kids too.

Although, I allegedly lived in a medium blue dot in Florida, and I didn't find anything there either. No long termers either. Just a few months of bad choices here and there, I got out reasonably unscathed.

And if I still lived there, I could see Ivana's wedding if I had a telescope.

New movie - Diapers and the City?