PiP, if he doesn't know what he wants, find a man who does.


I don't find indecision attractive at all. If a man isn't sure he wants to be with me, that's fine with me. Come back when you do, but I'm not sure if I'll be here.

after I talked here last night my friend called me abou the guy. Again I laid into her about this situation. I asked her what the hell are you really doing? She keeps saying I'm not going to sleep with him, but we all know that's code for I'd like to an well if it goes that way, then I will. She admited, I dont know what I'm doing, but Ilove the way he holds me.

one of these guys that I let call me from another country, just to talk took his cell in for service and got a copy of bill while there. I feel so bad, it's high. calilng international on a cell would be anyways, but over a few weeks, it's over a grand lets just say that And all it is talking...about our friends, family, everyday things, politics, work(his work)

Wait, what? What's this about?

oh STL why do girls always say it will be fine.. I don't want to sleep with him, but I just love the way he holds me. The when they get all hurt they want to know why you did not try to stop them from getting into this situation?

just how much do you talk to this fellow??

Usually the first hurdle for the guy would be a fear of rejection. But if he knows that you like him or are interested in him, then I don't know what's going on in his head. Also, since you guys were already friends then there shouldn't be a chemistry issue either.

How old is he? When I was younger I knew what I wanted, but knowing whether or not my expectations were to high was another story.

He's 25 years old, 3 years older than I am. We went to high school together but we didn't get to know each other until until a few years later, after he discovered me on FB. We talked there for some time, than decided that we should start hanging out, thus the friendship forming.

I'd love to be wrong, but I get the idea that he's a player & that if he's in a relationship, he'll have to give that lifestyle up to settle with one girl early. I mean, I've heard stories from his friends & witnessed what girls said to him as proof. One day I was bored on FB & wanted to see how many FB friends he has & when I checked, he has friends from literally every corner of the world. Like, FYROM, Arizona, Romania, Isreal etc. I can understand if the guy has travelled the world, but he's never stepped foot outside Vancouver BC. And I'm not gonna lie, the foreign girls on his FB are very pretty, so I think that maybe he adds random pretty girls lol. Than again, I could wrong. I guess I like to speculate a lot . And I noticed that no girl has written on his wall since August 17th, & the last wall post is from my sister, inviting him over. And yes, I know I seem like a stalker but I don't want to waste my time with a guy who has the entire universe on FB .

And apparently, I said something really mean to him a few months ago (I have no idea what I said, & he won't tell me) & he really hasn't been the same towards me since. When I orginally told him that I liked him, he acted really awkward & didn't talk to me much so after my feelings for him went away the first time, I told him that I didn't like him anymore & he's all like, why did you tell me that?!? He later said that he didn't care about me not liking him anymore but I'm not so sure. Than I said maybe we should take some time off by not talking to each other so we could figure out our feelings & he didn't like that very much. Also, when I told him that I like him, he said no you don't. Also, in the past he would offer guy advice but maybe a few months back, he got annoyed of it. I guess I understand how he feels but at the same time, I wouldn't have a problem if he wanted to talk about girls, although it would sting a bit.

And our mutual friend is still acting mysterious. And when I told him that I liked him the second time, he didn't really believe me again.

Oh its nothing major wedd. We chit chat once and awhile about whats going on instead of spending hours on line chatting. nice guy. Total non werido.



Pam you have me on that. I think she's trying to make herself believe what she thinks and not see. She'll get hurt more before she wises up or he'll have to tell her to her face.

We talk like 3 times a week, couple a hours each phone call. He's a independent plumber and got a huge contract to do all the plumbing in housing estate, so he mainly talks about that, which is fine. It breaks up my day.

Yeah they all do that. Why can you only see it when it is not happening to you eh?

actually that does sound like an interesting conversation. Estate's as in great big fancy pretty houses, with lots of spooky places?

Our mutual friend convinced me to tell Mike how I felt because otherwise, I'd go crazy he says. Anyway, since I'm a chicken I decided to reveal myself over texting, & here's what I said:

There's something I got to know. You know I like you, but I wan't to know if you like me. You will not hurt me by saying no. I want to know so I can move on if necessary, while still being your friend. Please be honest. That's all I ask. Thanks.

I would do it in person or over the phone, but the words wouldn't come out. If I don't receive a response, I don't need to know the answer. Here's hoping it's the one I'm looking for.

If he is a true player, I'm not sure why his feelings are hurt. He would just move on to another girl that was giving him the attention he wants.

Sounds like he is really into you, or was before his feelings were hurt. He probably still likes you, but wants to "punish" you for something in the past. At his age, he should stop playing games and be able to be honest with you about what the problem is.

That does make a lot of sense. I guess players care more about the girls than their own feelings, but it seems like what I said really, really hurt up. He said that because he's always so nice to me (he is) he doesn't understand why I had to say the stuff I had to say. I guess he's a bit sensitive, which isn't his fault.

I do get the idea he's punishing me, by ignoring me & treating me the same way like I almost treated him. And it must've been bad if he's still holding on from May.

Than again, if he says we're friends that's true. When we got into a fight, he said he likes me as friend & that's how it should be. Apparently it annoyed him that I talked about other guys, & he claims that I was trying to make him jealous, which wasn't true. I just needed advice, that's all.

Ah well, I wonder if he'll reply to my text...

he does those too Pam, this is a 6 yr contract for council flats. So it's the biggest deal he's ever done.

We talk about his kids too, he's a grandpa at 42. his youngest is now 20 and she had her first at 17. it's just nice to talk to someone who wants to talk and not play games about do you like me? want to go out? and then never call you after. None of that can go on here

Doesnt stop me from flirting with all the cute boys when i do go out

Yeah, and guys love to be just held.

Becca, be careful with the foreign dude. That sounds a little strange. And if you find plumbing interesting enough to talk about for hours, you really need to get out more.



Exactly. New #2 is very wise.

^^ I agree. It's nice to receive wise advice from a guy every so often, as he knows what's going in a male's mind. However, I'm not saying that I don't appreciate advice from the ladies here because I do. I take in every word. Thank you all.

It's been two days & not a word from him. I'm thinking that there are two different things going, & they are:

1. He doesn't have balls, or they just haven't dropped yet. Because his maness hasn't developed, he doesn't know how to answer my question. Instead, he'd rather ignore me, leaving me frustrated thinking I'll figure it all out on my own.

2. What I revealed to him has got him thinking, making him unsure of what he feels for me. Therefore, he's not going to talk to me until he knows his answer.

I'm going to weigh both options & theories evenly, as I don't want to be overly positive or extremely negative. If there's one thing I'm do, it's not going to be talking to him. I'm not going to awknowledge his existence by not calling him, not emailing him, not texting him, not writing on his FB wall, nothing. All methods of contact will cease to exist until he reaches me. Whatever remains is up to him. And if he thinks I'll wait around till he makes his mind up, he's foolish. I'm 22, & I'm gonna let my life & other men pass me by. My ex advised me to wait & I will...for just five more days. Then I'm moving on while he stays behind.

PiP, you crack me up . . One minute you're talking about the perfect mascara or the details of dating in the greater Vancouver area, and the next you drop lines like this, ^^. However things work out with this guy, you've going to be just fine.

oh veebs no we dont talk about plumbing for hours that would be insane. Just interesting to talk to people. Which reminds me I gotta bug scotty soon haven't called in him ages

Hahahaha My friend does think men like to be held to and be needed. She's not got a clue

pip at least you got 2 options to mull over while he's been dumb. So now your either know if he's a man or a boy

What can I say. I do try . I'm very random, which I think adds life to any situation. People never know what to expect .

I think I'm doing better. I've been thinking about him less, & I fought the temptation to call him & check his FB page. Just because he's there doesn't mean I want him. And if he doesn't want me, big whoop. It's nice like he's the only living male. There are other men out there who have balls .



He's a boy trapped in the body of a 25 year old "man". If he ignores me while I continue to wait around, he's dead wrong. I'm not some stupid girl who's gonna sit here & go, "OMGz lyke, Im gonna sit here & just wait for him to contact me lulz teehee." Not gonna happen. I don't wait around for a guy, no matter how much I like him. He has to realize that if he plays the same game with all these girls, he's gonna wind up lonely & I'm surprised that he doesn't have that established in his mind, considering he has three sisters.

Eh whatever. He's a little boy amongst a group of real men. He may claim he's 25, but I know his real age. If I date him, I feel like I'll be babysitting him. I'm 22, & I'm not looking to take care of a guy anymore.

Thanks for the compliment VB. It's easy for me to make "wise" comments when I'm not involved in the situation. After ripping this guy, I will say that constructive and effective communication with women doesn't come easy for most men.



Your ex is giving you advice? Although I don't know your history with him, it sounds like he is a bigger man than most. I wouldn't give any of my ex's advice. I guess that's my petty side.

Single or married...neither is easy but both separately can be fun

I could use a little bit more fun.

woo hoo PIP...talk about keeping it real

I asked my friend if that jerk guy has talked to her at all this weekend an she got all mad, no he's not. And in the bcakground I could hear her checking her phone for text messages. I know she's been texting him all weekend

Ye ye you know it .

I texted him, preteding to be my younger sister & I went, "GUESS WHO! We have to meet in private, cause I don't think jazz (me, but she calls me jazz) wants to see you. Call me k."

And low & behold, he called 5 times in the span of like, 3 or 4 minutes. I didn't answer once. Seems like he has more interest in my 16 year old sister than me. Creepy.

^^ thats just ewwww any way you look at it PIP

It totally is Becca. Yeesh.

He just caught me on msn & wanted to know why my sister (lol) & I are being nice than mean than nice again. He said that he's always being nice so he doesn't get why we are. I explained to him how he hurt me by not replying & that I get it all than he's all like, I see or whatever. Than he said how incoming texting is costing him & that if I wanna talk to him, call him or message him on facebook. Than I called him on all the times he called & he said that he wanted to talk to both me & my sister.

I refuse to waste my phone minutes on him, so I'll just message him on facebook saying just how "nice" he was. Hypocrite.

Here are the time periods in which he called:

Call 1: 10:51 PM
Call 2: 10:52 PM
Call 3: 10:59 PM
Call 4: 10:59 PM
Call 5: 11:00 PM

Wow, desperation at best. Instead of calling numerous times, he could've left a voicemail.

If he can't accept the fact that he hurt me, that I don't want his friendship. Friends don't hurt each other. And I don't need to have tons of friends if one is going to mess with me mentally. I just wait that he could say straight up if he likes me as a friend, or if he has feelings for me. Grrrr.

PiP!!! You slay me! And something tells me if they haven't dropped by now, he needs a doctor.


Good reasoning. And seriously, do you really want a guy who plays these junior high games?


Double ewwwww.

Here at the office, we just finished watching a possibly single couple doing the nasty in the car. They were parked on the top level of the parking deck. Our office is on the 20 the floor so we can see the top of any structure. Of course somebody had to tattle tell, and the police showed up.


Isn't that part of the fun of being single.

I bet you can see a whole lot with that kind of view. Was it like a train wreck.. you wanted to look away but just could not bring yourself to do so?

That is just so funny. I wonder if anyone in your office has a telescope?

Oh the possiblities... I love the human race.. we are just so darn entertianing!

Somebody actually had a pair of binoculars. When I looked thru them, all I saw was a young lady sitting......

I won't go any further.

haha.. That is way to funny. I like how you use the phrase "young lady"

Was it around lunch time?

fast food eh?

Take out . . . .

I could share something, but since I try to be a lady............. I wont

If you share yours, then I'll share mine.

Sounds like the line the guy must have used.

Why does the guy have to be responsible for the mess?

!!!

Can't say I ever did that. There are other things in outdoor settings, though, that I do not wish to recall....

I have questions.

How far away was this parking deck?

Did you need binoculars to see what was going on?

Didn't they notice all the big buildings with windows and people standing in them?

Who discovered it?

How did word travel?

Is it going to be on youtube?

#2 that is just so funny. Who said mondays are boring

Actually, that sounds a little more like someone having an affair who doesn't want to get caught. Or maybe I've been watching too much Mad Men.

So, how much work did you get done today?

Ohh what if they were having a affair? Thats just sad then.

Ive not talked to pete since the other day. Gotta call him tomorrow. Maybe this is why he wanted to go so very painfully slow?

I love you guys. Nothing like some dirty humour to brighten up my evening .

So, she must've had a six inch for lunch, & I'm not talking about Subway . (I'd say foot long, but who am I kidding here).

"I am going to be... kind of a daddy." [/Michael]

Maybe. Not really. Kind of. I don't know.

WTF??!!??

WHAT??????

Is this for reals, or have you been watching Oprah again?

Scotty?!

Scotty! I'm going to be wondering about you all day now....

Ok. That quote was meant to shock you all, but it's not really anything involving me becoming a father. In case you remember, I was supposed to be getting back together with an old girlfriend of mine who lives in Iowa. It's been very complicated, and we haven't seen each other in years and years, and we hadn't really talked the last 2 months. Since we kind of stopped talking, she started dating some guy, which is fine with me because I don't expect her to wait around for me. Turns out she's pregnant now, and she doesn't really like the guy all that much (not enough be having kids with him, at least), so it's all a big mess. She was planning on moving down here in September, but now that's been put on the back burner for a while. Maybe a long while.

The situation doesn't bother me, too much. I still really like her, and I let her know that, and that I don't think anything less of her, and that I still want us to wind up being together. But, the one thing that bothers me the most, is I feel jealous. I kind of wish it was my baby. I had an idea in my head that we'd eventually get married and have kids, which is still possible, but I never thought about step-kids or anything. I guess that's the way the world works!

So, I feel a little like Michael right now, that's why I chose that quote...I also wanted to give you guys a shock.

Well, first of all, that is very mean of you to scare us like that.
Second, that is kind of sweet that you wish it was your baby.
Third, you need to think long and hard about this, because raising other people's kids is complicated, no matter how you look at it.

This baby is a definite?