I was going to say the restaurant was next to a ski lodge, but I refrained.

who needs hints. Just ask for it Is that too pushy?

VB!!!!



Not too pushy at all. That's one of my favorite things about my wife. She can be very direct.

RC

I'm so glad I'm not into Mikey anymore. Me & 3 other friends went to eurofest this past weekend & he was there with his friends too. I pretty much spent the whole time avoiding him but I eventually ran into him. Even though I remembered what a jerk he is, I put that aside & exchanged pleasantries(sp?) with him. He invited my friends & I to come sit with him & his friends in the beer garden, but I declined. According to one of my friends, he was nudging me with his elbow as he invited me, but I have no recollection. About an hour later, I ran into him again. He was like, "why you guys standing out here, come sit in the beer garden." but when he offered again, he was clearly drunk, as he was slurring his words. I told him we were leaving so he quickly said bye and walked off.

As we were leaving, I saw one of his friends. Now, this friend that I ran into seemed pretty nice, or at least he use to be. His friend was acting like a total d!ck & he was beyond rude. I ignored him & headed off with my friends.

The next day, Mikey replied to this facebook message that I sent quite awhile back & according to him, I apparently barely said a word & also, I acted like I did not know him which in his words, was dumb. I took advantage of that & asked him why his friend was being mean & he simply said, "probably because of the way you treat me." Hearing that made me wonder exactly what Mikey shares with his friends, especially since he claims that he never shares anything with them. I mean, I would tell my friends what Mikey did & even though they loathed him, they would never be publicly mean to him. And, he said that we should not talk anymore if we're always going to be like that & I said, yeah I agree, I don't think we should ever talk & than he's like, I don't mind if you talk to me just be nicer. I felt like saying, wow, make up your mind.

I honestly don't care anymore but the whole thing is stupid to me.

ugh pip. I had a friend like that and he finally lost it and we don't speak at all. He was all I want to talk, you are like my best friend nearly and then he'd get all moody cause of something I said he took wrong or did that he didn't like. Boys like that need to be ignored 95% of the time or just left alone completely.

This older guy friend on facebook who's just found Jesus. That's what he's claimed a few weeks ago has been sending me the past 2 days suggestive material. I'm going to drop him off my list. Creep

I'm waiting for Mikey to lose it, but he probably won't ever do it. I mean, I wouldn't want to witness him lose it but he lacks balls & instead of expressing how he feels, he resorts to the silent treatment which, IMO, speaks volumes about lack of communication. He's notorious for taking what I said the wrong way or just not agreeing with what I said. It's shows that he's either "sensitive" or that he fails are comprehension & deciphering the real meaning. But yeah, he deserves to be left alone. I'm thankful we barely communicate & the only reason it was all brought up was because he decided to reply to an old message & also, because I wanted to know what the heck was up was his friend. Had neither occurred, this incident would not happen. I made it a goal to not see him at eurofest & as my "luck" had it, I randomly ran into him. But hey, considering the actions & words he pulled in the past months, I had every right to barely speak to him while pretending that we didn't know each other. And if his friend is gonna act mean because of how I treated Mikey, they can take a hike. Luckily, I cannot picture myself seeing him anytime in the future so I'm lucky.

He also claims that I play with what he says meaning that if I have one idea in my head, such as going to eurofest & that I hear his idea, like he'll be going to eurofest, I'll suddenly say that I don't want to go anymore, which is complete bs on so many levels. Also, he accused me of jumping the gun on something & I asked him what the heck he meant but of course, he never clarified what he meant. If he states something he better darn well explain what it means.

LOVE the new sig, PiP!!!

Me too & I cannot stop laughing. Tim Gunn is the ultimate drama queen & that sig captures it perfectly . I only watch Project Runway just to see how he reacts & deals with the designers outfits .

pip just wait for it. it's slowly building up trust me

Probably belongs in the Joke thread, but whatever:

Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?' The girl said:'NO!' And the girl lived happily ever-after and went shopping, dancing, camping, drank martinis, always had a clean house, never had to cook, did whatever the hell she wanted, never argued, didn't get fat, traveled more, had many lovers, didn't save money, and had all the hot water to herself. She went to the theater, never watched sports, never wore friggin' lacy lingerie that went up her ass, had high self esteem, never cried or yelled, felt and looked fabulous in sweat pants and was pleasant all the time.
The End.

I think I need to talk to nick about us later. Nothing bad but I think he maybe too comfortable in the "let's just stay the same" mode in this relationship. Which is nice, but I do want to get married. I love this man...but lordy does he drive insane sometimes.

You aren't going to do the 'milk and a cow' thing with him are you?

That should be on a bumper sticker!


Becca, please dont take this the wrong way but marriage is not a cure all if there are things wrong already in a relationship or that marriage will make someone think or act differently(in a better light that is). Big issues or items should try to be resolved or people need to try to change or be accepted for as they are before doing something legal. Being married brings more issues, responsibilities and even more problems that never come up before.

There are some people that can not change because they dont want to or because they dont care. I am not saying Nick doesnt care but he has been set in his way for decades as you probably know.

I say this as being experienced not because I think I have a perfect marriage or know it all. Not even close. 19 years later we are still working on it daily. And it is not easy.

Well said O-h and RC.

Except for the 'didn't get fat', 'had many lovers', and 'didn't save money', you got my life. And I said no 3 times. No wait, 4.

BMaC, do I have my commas in the right place? I've been wondering about my grammar lately.

oh god no, I'm not going to cram it down his throat. Just seems silly to be dating this long off and on and nothing happen. Especially since we are working so hard at making it work this time. I have to wonder if at times he doesn't get bored himself in his own life...work, family drama, and the same old issues that come up and when it comes back to us...it's like the ice has already gotten so thin that we both walk on egg shells. It might be a temp thing once his issues are all set. I don't know. I just love this stupid giant a$$ face so much that I can't think of anyone I want to be with more and it would be nice through all the stress of his life he if told me that. With all the stress, you kinda feel blocked out.

So, let's see. I've been married longer than some people here have been alive, and the advice I'm asked for in the "Being Single" thread is about punctuation. Ok.

Commas should go inside the quotation marks, like this: "had many lovers," and "didn't save money," but aside from that, you're doing just fine Veebs. Here's a good list of comma rules.

Thanks, BMaC! That's what I thought, except I thought punctuation only goes inside quotation marks if it is an actual quote, not a faux quote. So I stand corrected.

Becca, if you and the brit get married, all of his issues become your issues. Right now, he doesn't seem willing to share those with you, he wants to keep you separate from his 'real life.' So, when do you get to become a part of his real life, not just someone he visits occasionally?

I kinda wondered that too veebs. I used to take him out of his life, but that was before his daugther came to live with him and now, well he's always stuck in it. He told me if I wanted to break up with him when he got custody of her again he'd understand. He's a good day, a push over but a good dad and I believe he tries too hard at being superdad and then he loses time for him or me or fun for that matter.
I don't really know what I can do for him to let him know I appericate everything he does and make him feel uber special and important lately.

If that's true, he won't be able to lose it on me, as I've cut of all methods of communication, except for mobiles which is the only thing I cannot control. But I could never let him give me a piece of his mind, as I could never take the final & last piece.

!! That really made me laugh.




Why are you trying to make him feel special? What has he done to deserve it? You guys got back "together" and he hasn't been around except for some late night calls. I didn't hear you say one thing about him being around for the whole hospital ordeal, but then I heard you say he put you back on an allowance.

I said it before and I'll say it again. This is not right. This is going back to where you were before, or even worse. He's leading you on again. If he really meant it, when his daughter got out of school he would have his mother watch her for a week, or even a weekend, and the two of you could spend some real time together. I'm not trying to be mean, but to me it seems like you are just back in the same cycle.

Well, I was moaning about him and I swear he reads my thoughts. I swear less than a hour later while I was still looking around on the boards up he popped on line. He was looking for me apparently. He said I was trying to call you it's busy. So we had alittle chat before I went to bed. I told him I've been asking a lot from him, being sick and all and that I appericate the things he's done and though he's not had time for all of it, I understand to some point. I told him that after after all this time he's still the giant A-hole I fell in love with and it's been bad but I don't want it to get so bad we can't stand each other. He said he knows and told me that crazyness and everything he wants us to stay together cause even in break ups we don't stay apart long.
We're going to try to work it next week to spend more time together since I'm feeling better. And it's been a while now since we've been alone.
I just took the time to tell him things that I hadn't in ages cause it's always been how's work, how's the family, you, the house and the health stuff. It's not been a lot of silly little romantic things and we used to be all about that stuff and yeah it gradually fades but I think we got dull. Anyways, he said I'm making him blush and if I can still make him blush by just telling him how I feel then I'm glad. Deep down I think he really needed that.
Yes he said some very sweet things back. It wasn't a one way thing.

The allowance thing isn't bad. It's extra cash. Cause I don't ask him to pay my bills. He's offered to pay off all my stuff but I turn him down everytime. I'd rather struggle then him cut me a check. It's the kid situation that's so hard. One day she likes me the next she thinks I'm going to take away her dad and then she won't let him out of her sight. She's struggling with bullies and the whole teenage crap stuff and I know she's having a few emotional issues but I can't step in and tell him how to parent this child, it's not my place. I just have to have some patience and a hell of a lot of strength to stand by him.

I think I've discovered my problem with guys. Most of the time, I become attracted to men that I can't have. No, I'm not talking about gay guys, married guys or engaged guys . I'm talking about guys that don't want me, the guys that I have to pursue. Like for example, Mikey. Even though I'm 1000% over him, I liked him even though he stated that we'd be only friends. Back when he was nice & flirty (before we had that fight back in April of 2008) I was like meh, he's a nice friend. After the fight, things changed. Before my ex & I dated, I liked him at first. I confided in my friend, who than told him & after, I learned that he liked me back. All of a sudden, my interest in him dropped. I mean, I still liked him, but I wasn't as attracted. As the oldest out of four, I'm use to working towards what I want & need, instead of having it fall in my lap without any effort. Obviously, this behavior isn't too healthy, as I need to find a guy who will like me back without me feeling weird but I can't help it. Than again, I wonder if it would all be different had Mikey said he liked me back, as I'm certain I wanted a relationship with him. And maybe with my ex, I didn't really like him, I just wanted him to like me. I've heard stories where people have been confused, whether they truly like that person, or they want that person to like them. Sometimes, when we like someone, we want them to like us back but other times, it's for the ego, like Mikey. Speaking of the douche, it's my birthday tomorrow & I pray to God that he doesn't call or text me with birthday wishes. While birthday wishes are nice, I'd rather not see his name on my call display. I may have deleted & blocked him from msn & facebook but I cannot block his number on my mobile .

Why don't you change his name on your display to 'douchebag'?

What a dumbass. He deserves to be single after this. But of course, she'll take him back. The article said that he "has earned a chance". What part of jumping a plane to Argentina on Father's Day weekend is deserving of a chance?!

why is douchebag a word that isn't blocked?

Pip, guys like mikey always come back. maybe you both can be friends, it's possible I guess.
I've told nick he's not my time share boyfriend anymore, he's my boomarang boyfriend. He thinks I have too much time to think of stuff like this. I told him it's your fault I have too much time to think of stuff like this. And he laughed and said, know matter what, it's always my fault. To which I said, yes. an he said well I can live with that cause that just means it's only me in your life. But I told him how do I know it's just me in yours? he said, because I've never come back like this to anyone like the way I have with you. I laughed at him and said an here I thought you came back cause you seriously believe I have a voodoo of you.


p.s I've seen him and hes too tanned. I hate when he gets too tanned..he browns an then it's a crap shoot on if he'll peel or it will stay

Isn't it some old Shakespearean word?

Thoust shall not suffer the douchbaggery of the ill willed traveler.

I love it! I'm going to try to work douchbaggery into a conversation soon.

Someone on The Office must have used the word somewhere by now . . .

*edit* done.

Well, the word fart was used and that's censored, correct?

Correction: Was censored.

see douchebaggery is a very misunderstood word. And doesn't get the justice it deserves.

I saw a guy walking to a bus stop wearing saggy dickies and a oversized long purple shirt, slicked back hair and a long braid with a few chains. What are the odds that douche has a girlfriend?

On that we agree. You need to get out more. Are you still looking for a job? What about taking some online classes?


Wow, that sounds painful.

Yeah...and thank goodness for the oversized long purple shirt.

^^ And my husband wonders why my sense of humor has fallen into the gutter over the last couple years!

If he was saved in my phonebook, I would. He's not even worthy of being on my contact list.



I can't see it happening, because I believe we're officially finished. I can't see him coming back at all. Normally, if we go for long periods without contact he'd call me but now, we have not spoken a word to each other. I actually cannot remember the last time we spoke to each other. I think it might have been at the end of May, where he gave me crap for acting like I didn't know him when I ran into him at eurofest. I guess he didn't like the fact that I gave him a walk bye hi as I headed off with my friends. He said I should try to be nicer, which I did for awhile but he did nothing. I can't see him calling me in the near future so chances are, we'll never talk again, which is fine by me. I refuse to put up with his mood swings & the fact that he gets p!ssed off at me, no matter what I do. Not gonna bother with him anymore, as he's no worthy of having me as a friend, or anything else for that matter.

I have mailed out my CV to a few places and I should do that again, but honestly I've not felt up to to it in the last 2 months. nick hates when I put too much time into thinking about the relationship....were as he, hardly thinks at all.

Well, it's not so much that you put too much time thinking about your relationship, it's that you need some other outside interests and income no matter who you're with. I hope you continue to feel better though.

As for him, well, he just doesn't think.

There is nothing wrong I think with putting time or thought into a relationship. How are they to work if no one cares or thinks everything is ok and its not. But it takes two. But what do I know?

^^^Yeppers.

I spoke to nick last night since I was kept up by my best friend on the phone.
If I have to be up at around midnight...so does he. I told him I hadn't got anything for ms.thang's birthday cause I couldn't remember the day (the 26th or 28th) He reminded me it's the 28th and said don't worry, you aren't well, I'll go buy something tomorrow and stick your name on the card. Which was nice. Cause I do feel bad. Ms. Thang is 14. And he said I've not watched tv all evening, is he dead? I laughed and said you really don't know by now, and he said no. I said Yeah, he died. What sucks is that farah fawcett died earlier today too. He said what? All shocked. I said yeah Farah died. He said F jackson who gives a crap, but farah...now that's the real loss. We were laughing and I said marry me cause you said what I said when I heard the news too. He laughed more and said how funny we think alike. And said darn right I'll marry you, that's the only thing I want to do.
Just makes me laugh sometimes that we are sometimes really two peas in a pod.

I am not going to ms. thangs birthday party. I don't think I can handle being around a bunch of people, all those teenagers and noise and I can't eat all the food so I'm okay with it, nick is okay with it and that's what matters as long as we are okay with how things go.

So, what are you going to do about Ms. Thang's birthday parties if you marry him? Or even about Ms. Thang in general?

If I marry him, I'd have to show my face of course but since she's 14 she'd rather no adult be at her party, even her dad. And with her in general it will just take time, I don't expect her to be just be thrilled at the idea an we become the best of friends but as long as we get along and we resepct each other and want Nick to be happy we'll be okay I guess. She was a emotional wreck when we tried to all mesh, now she's a teenager who knows all and doesn't like anyone or thing. I get fed up with her but I get how it must be to be uwanted by one parent and then have the other one fight so hard to get you back and love you so much and then have to share that attention. But, she's had long enough and needs to learn how to adjust more.

I don't ask nick and ms thang to come to my b-day dinners as well. That's my time with my friends an nick get it so we're all cool about doing seperate things at times.

I would like to add I met up with nick just a bit ago. ms. thang doesn't want a party now. Nope, she's changed her mind at the last min and just wants dad to take her a few friends somewhere, so this works out for everyone, no big messy party for him. she gets to hang with her friends, I get to stay home with out looking like a monster for not showing up. They are doing something today just him and her so I said okay, you have a good time an I'll see ya later. To me, this has worked out so nicely now.

Yeah, but if you get married, won't you be living in the same house?

for a couple of years. I think her plan is to go away to school. but still. We'd have to find a way to get along together so that she doesn't feel like I'm taking away her dad and I don't feel like she's trying to push me out. That should be easy

^

The only things missing are the cheesy leisure suit with the open collar and shiny medallions.

Yeah, you two will have to learn how to get along. Plus, who knows, she may even want to live at home after she's an adult, like we do.

maybe veebs. But nick's got her a nice little pile of money set up for when she graduates to set up a place of her own. I'm sure she'll be out ASAP.
I know I'm the child in my family who will either be living with my mom or if I get married...she'll live with me. And you know what it's not that bad. Who will take care of her? No one but me cause my brothers won't. I don't see it as a totally bad thing. I could be my mom's friend son. He's married 3 kids, 2 are step kids an he lost his job, his house, the wife doesn't work and they are having to move into his mom's barn. He's going to refurbish it so it can be lived in like a house. That's a tough blow to a person's ego I think.

I called nick late last night. I wanted to have a mini yell at him for something anyways and I did. I asked about the party for ms. thang and he said it was the worst day ever for him. I asked why. He said cause I had to spend it with ms. thangs mom. The dreaded ex. I said why? Cause ms. thang wanted to. He doesn't get in his childs way wiht the relationship she has with her mom. But even after after breaking up 9 yrs ago and having full custody of ms.thang now for alittle over 3 yrs he described her as the worlds biggest bitoch, just a ugly person through out, mean and hateful and if he had to keep looking at her it was going to melt his eyes. You think he still hates her??
Even though I was pretty annoyed with him I'm really not anymore. I guess I was just letting something sit and fester for no good reason and the fact that he had to spend a entire afternoon with the ex an his ex best friend he cheated on him with an ms.thangs half brother was more torture than I could have ever imposed on him

^^^I thought they told you there was no party and that's why you didn't go?

there wasn't. She didn't want the party she orginally wanted. He thought it was going to be her and some friends an he'd have to take them somewhere playing cab driver all day. Nope. She wanted to see her mom. First time they've both seen each other since nick got custody. Nick has no idea why she wanted to see her mom but he just let her and gritted his teeth through it. I asked him why didn't you ask what was up with that and he said the less I have to know about sara the better. His ex is sara. I guess ms. thang is old enough to know if she wants a relationship with her mom but I worry about ms.thang picking up more of her mom's traits if they start bonding and sara trying to make Nick's life miserble again. I've never met her. I've seen pics though. She was pretty I guess. I don't think she was special looking but nick started dating her after the girl he was seeing and asked to marry him came out of the closet to him and sara was the type of girl who did some modeling in those car mags..the girl in the ****** clothes laying across a low rider. As he's stated to me, it wasn't about her personality, cause that sucked but I wasn't thinking with my head was I? And look where it got me.
His past personal life is a total wreck.