Well, it's normal for kids to want a relationship with their parents, no matter how bad they are. It's all part of that desire we all have to be loved and accepted. When Ms. Thang gets a little older, it will probably be a different story. Being rejected by your own mother is pretty bad.

Quoting for emphasis.

I'll always be your Aunt Veebs.

Or she thinks she can get her parents back together and get Becca out of the picture. Seems kind of random that all of a sudden she asked for this meeting right after he allegedly had this talk with her.

it's all pretty weird but nick wants nothing to do with sara. She is drugged out now and doesn't want anyone's seconds. She did cheat on him with his ex best friend. I trust him..I think she has and will always have issues and will end up like her mom treating men like tissues, use and lose em'. And of course nick will never bad mouth the mother in front of his child, which I actually think is a good thing. Kids don't need to know the parents business that way.. who knows what lies she's told to ms. thang but nick's already explained to her that the situation is he loves me.

I'm curious about cat calling. Why do they do it? Seriously, why? I went to meet a friend at the movies Friday and beat her there. I was walking across the parking lot and a guy calls out from his truck "hey, school's out." What am I supposed to say to that? It's both flattering and insulting and I don't know how to react. It's like the guy on Facebook who sent me a message saying I "looked like I'd be interesting to talk to." Glad to know that people are still being judged based on looks. I think this is why I don't trust my friends who try to flatter and compliment me.

I don't know why guys do it. I've never seen a cat call work, and it's embarrassing to the other guys around.

They do it because they think it makes them look cool to other guys. They know a cat call never works, and if it did, they'd run. They're really too ascared of women to approach them in a normal way.

wait RC brings up something interesting...is the cat call embarassing in general or is it the nature of the cat call.

It's embarrassing to (most) women, too. There's nothing flattering about it, especially when you're the only woman around and the guy has an audience of his buddies. Depending on the environment it can be very intimidating. Any guy who would do that doesn't have a chance with me.

Exactly. You're being judged solely on looks (because none of the cat calls I've ever received were from guys I knew) which is insulting. I think that most of the time it's probably a dare kind of thing. But no, I don't think it ever works. Certainly not with me. Though if it ever happens when I have friends with me, I think it might be interesting to go ask them why they felt the need to yell at a complete stranger. Call it research for a psychology project or something. See how they'd react then.

Good point. These cat-callers think it makes them look like a 'stud' around the other guys. What kind of guy is impressed with this? It's moronic. It's the furthest thing from 'looking cool'.

Has anyone ever cat called a guy?? I've done it as a laugh. The guy seemed to just laugh it off. If a guy says something to me I usually say something back. I've made a few guy friends that way, cause now I'm seen as a the funny girl and somehow that means something nonsexual.

The worst is if you go to the clubs...the lines you hear are sickening

Classy lines like this "You must be a parking ticket cause you got fine written all over you"? Or one for the smart girls "I wish I was your derivitive so I could lie tangent to your curves"

"I wish I was your derivitive so I could lie tangent to your curves"

But that's my favorite pick up line ever!

To the overseers of this thread, and or those who dole out karma based on responses to this thread (mostly this page):

I did not mean to mock anything or anyone, and I would appreciate it if you would retract the catcalls you requested I receive while running. I heard you loud and clear, and I have learned from my mistakes. I expect this issue to be resolved by the next time I go running.

xoxo, Christine.

^^^Funny you should say that, because in addition to the old man who is stalking me (which I previously mentioned in the Venting thread), a guy screamed out his van window today "I LOVE YOU!!!".

If only he would have slowed down so I could have abandoned my life and jumped in the van with him to start a new one.

That poor guy's probably been in love with you for years but only garnered up enough courage to say it from a moving van!

I do confess that I sometimes make catcalls to my wife. I think she likes it.

While on spring break in Myrtle Beach a marine came up to me with the pick up line (you need to imagine it with a southern drawl) "Your eyes suit your face." To which my response was "Does that mean my face is butt ugly but it is OK b/c my eyes suit it?" Obviously I did not get picked up.

best pick up line Ive used on a guy...hey you got a girlfriend? His answer yeah I do. I response, want a better one He got a chuckle out of it and we were friends for about a year til we lost touch.

The radio dj was the best when I was 22. I used to call for request and stuff a lot and he told me once, you've got the sexiest voice on radio, I should be paying you outta my pocket Stupid, but we stayed friends, exchanged numbers, gave me free stuff for movies and junk and even tried to hook me up with a job.
Sometimes a pick up line can be good.

He didn't know what he was in for.


Well, it's different coming from you.

When I was on the bowling team, this guy had a crush on me and he sent me a card that said, "You're a real strike in my book, and I have spare time for you." Yeah, I didn't have spare time for him.

One of my friends likes to say to guys, "You look just like my first husband." So when they ask her how many times she's been married, she says, "None."

Here's one a guy tried on me a few years ago:
"You know, you have a pretty face, but you'd be gorgeous if you lost some weight."
To which I replied, "Well, I can always lose weight, but you're probably always going to be an a$$hole."

^^ I lobe you veebs. My first laugh of the day and it came from you.

well I found out why nick had been "ignoring" me. Ms. thang has been sneaking on line when he's asleep and stuff and using his yahoo name to chat to people(people he doesn't know) and yesterday...when I said to what I thought was him..what the hell is your problem. She answered as nick, dunno you got the problem. I managed to get ahold of nick on the phone this morning he's yelling at me for being on yahoo when he's not there like I'm chatting to other men when I got a word in I explained what I was feeling and his pop up times and ignoring me. He said he was sorry so mnay times to me and then started shouting about ms.thang and told me if I had cussed out the sh1thead he wouldn't have blamed me and he's going to get her later and she's in serious trouble and she is not to talk to me like that ever. Another shock in how his perfect angel is a perfect sneaky liar. I will not break up with nick over a child's game. I've been it for 5 yrs and I'm not about to move cause she doesn't like me with her dad.
It's so freakin hard to date men with childern

talking to my best friend on line right now...she gives me the whole I wish I had a guy to celebrate with. it's just not happening for me. I said why don't you give a look around. She says I'm not ready for that I guess. I said what in person or online. If you look on line you can just get a idea of what's out there. She then says, I have to go to the ladies room, I'm signing off.
here's the truth and I love my best friend to bits but she's over weight, no self esteem and thinks everyone is talking about her behind her back. Plus she thinks a man will just appear on her door step and she'll never have to date.
After one relationship where he used her for money a few flirtations at jobs she just has got no idea. Now she wants to be mad at me for trying to help her. It's not my fault she'll end up alone, tied to her mother, eating herself to a larger and larger size. I'm really annoyed by her now and actually ticked that she seems offended.

She takes her cue from her dad. If he disrespects you, (disappearing, etc.), why shouldn't she?

When is the last time the three of you were in a room together? He can tell you all day about these talks he allegedly has with her, but until he says it in front of you, you will never know. You don't even know that it was her online with you.

Who the hell is he to yell at our Becca for no good reason?????????


Part of being in a relationship with someone, is that you want to include them in your circle of friends/family. To me it's just so strange that Nick doesn't really do anything to promote A. a serious relationship alone with you and B ) a serious relationship with you and his daughter as a family. I'm not sure anything substantial is going to build on shifting sand.

I think that card is hilarious!

I finally met a guy who could replace Mikey & the feelings that I once had for him. I met him through this guy who I casually dated. Me, my friend & the guy I casually dated went to this billiards place for a few rounds of pool. As we're passing the bowling lanes, my "ex" runs up to two guys on the bench & surprises them & greets them. Turns out, they're old high school buddies. My "ex" introduced us & as soon as I laid eyes on one of his friends I was like dayum. His two friends were finishing their bowling match so they joined us for a couple rounds of pool. I didn't play & I barely watched as I had to make frequent bathroom trips due to a case of bad food poisoning. Anyway, they finished their rounds of pool & we all headed off. After debating what to do, they guys decided that they would be finish their night off in a classy manner with a trip to the strip club. Naturally, my friend (she's female) & I declined their offer & the dayum guy made an offer in which he stated (while gyrating his hips in an awkward matter) that he gives good lap dances. I was left speechless as the guys headed off while my friend & I cabbed home.

It turns out the dayum guy is a doctor. I always wanted to date a doctor. Not because I'm a golddiger like Kanye West says but because I always wanted to say, "I'm dating a doctor." However, the downside is that he doesn't live here . He's currently settled in Albany NY & he was here just to visit. Luckily, I manged to find him on facebook (even though my "ex" claimed the dayum guy had no facebook & what's even funnier is that the dayum guy is on my "ex's" facebook friend list) & he accepted my friend's request so at least we can communicate at the very least. We'll see what happens.

^^^^ Good for you PiP!!!!!

I hope this works out with the doctor. But best of all, I'm glad he made you forget about Mikey. I'm not a big Mikey fan.

no mixed...she gets that from her mom trust me on that. Nick has his bad points but she's sneaky an such like her mom. It's so hard to explain it all when I don't have you all around from day to day to see it either. I vent my side of it and blah blah blah. It's hard when nick is trying to make up stuff and he's the type of parent that is the "friend" type. Blames himself for a lot of things that happened and all that but now isn't that time. And ms.thang acts like the model child, says and does all the right things infront of him but then there is the part that is plotting and I know she knows I know what she's thinking..it's a battle of wills. I just don't know why she doesn't care for me other than I'm dating her dad. To nick's credit he tries, okay he's failed a lot but he's tried. He's told he loves me. I've sat down with her and told her I love her dad but she's not having any part of it. She might get her way and we'll break up who knows but when it comes to social coping skills and such she takes after her mom and is nothing like nick. Nick can be a ass yes but he's friendly, everyone loves him when he meets new people. You know the type never meets a stranger, outgoing, and resepctful. Ms. thang is always looking at stuff with a angle. But then again so am I so that's why I guess I'm on to her

I'm familiar with how teenagers work, including the sneaky type. And I take you at your word about your observations about her, although I can see many reasons she's turned out this way to this point. It can't be easy to forge a relationship with a girl who so obviously doesn't want to share her dad. I don't envy you to job.

I find it interesting though that often when I point the finger at Nick, you turn it around to his daughter.

I've said my piece about Nick in the past. My opinion hasn't changed, but you've heard it all before, so I won't waste your time harping on about it. I'm just going to move on to another subject.

Ooooh, he sounds charming.

So let's see....he did that because he was drunk? Or he wasn't drunk? Either way, creepy.

Gyrating hips and visiting strip clubs are not on my list of qualities I look for in a man.

He was quite sober. Now that I think about it, it was weird considering we just met.






He finally accepted my friend request on facebook & the impression that I got from his photos is that he's a party animal. That doesn't surprise me too much, as he's in a fraternity. I dunno, I don't think a party animal & I could mesh as that's the polar opposite of me. I don't mind the odd pub or bar but I can't go clubbing or do binge drinking. Total turn off. It's weird cause when I met him, he seemed quiet etc with the exception of him being offering the lap dance.

I was out with my friends & I saw one of Mikey's friend which meant that Mikey was in close proximity. Luckily for me, his friend didn't spot me & I'm even luckier that I didn't see Mikey. He's not even worthy of a hello from me. The last time we talked was I think June 1st & I plan to keep it that way.

Maybe I'm confused? Are the doctor and the lap dance guy the same person?

Yep, it's the same guy.

I recently discovered that this one friend of my brother developed a crush on me. It's semi-funny & kinda awkward considering my brother's friend is 8 years younger than me but at least I know why he is starting to visit more. At least I think that's the reason .

How old is he? Like 16? I hope he doesn't try the lapdance move with you.

men should never dance like that. I don't think it's sexy. I just want to laugh.

Oh I've let nick have my opinion on this matter before. It was so harsh we didn't even acknowledge the other exsisted for a few days. She's sneaky and he's a tool. I love him but I know he's a tool on certain things. I'm not perfect either and I know I'm harsh. I'm too critical and he's not.

The kid is either 15 now, or he will be in a few months. He's too sweet & quiet to try anything & plus, he knows I'm no Demi Moore .

After nearly 1.5 months, Mikey & I are "talking" again. I heard his dog passed away so last night, I sent him a text with my condolences. That may seem silly to some but I've owned quite a few pets so I know how it feels when a pet dies, especially when they're almost like family like with dogs. Anyway, I sent the text around 10:30 last night. This afternoon, I checked my mobile & to my surprise, he replied. The text read "Thanks for the message. It's been a sad week for me, as my dog has died & my grandpa is in the hospital." I texted back, offering my support & the fact that I'm there for him. Yes, him & I may not talk anymore & sure, he was a royal arse but no matter how much I loathe someone, I put my feelings aside & support them, especially when a loved one of theirs is suffering. The word enemy etc no longer exists. Plus, when my grandma was suffering, he supported me better than my ex-best friend/euro snob did & even though I dislike him, I have to get past my dislike & be there as a supportive friend. Hopefully he'll open up to someone, be it me or someone else, as I'd hate for him to carry an emotional burden. I know what it's like to watch a grandparent suffer so I'm willing to help him, despite what happened.

The guy who works at the grocey story escalated the level of flirting just ever so slightly. I got out of my car and I saw him and he saw me so when he put a cart back instead of going back in he waited outside and I got out of the car and he smiled at me and I smiled back and he said hi, and waved. It felt stupid cause he was like 25 feet away from me. I did wave back at him though I was nice. He stops me and says to me hwo have you been it's been awhile since i've seen you. Apparently I've been tagged like Mutal of Omaha wild kingdom. I told him I'm okay and kinda politely laughed and said yeah it's been awhile. I asked him how are you doing. He says he's doing great and just busy. I started then to walk inside an he says I'll see you later. See me later??? Like I'm going to ever see him outside the grocey store. But his body lanuage was flirty, smiles, relaxed stance, relaxed hand resting on his hip.
But inside the store as I was shopping I was looking around an I would notice him just looking at me. And you know how it is when you make eye contact with a person that's looking directly at you. It's kinda funny and odd. But I shop around and as I am picking up apples he's walking over an asks this old lady if she needed help picking out a cantalope. She starts in oh yes please, I just can't seem to do it. I'm sure she wanted him to thump her melon. She turned into a desperate housewife. So I leave the area. And as I'm getting to my car how comes strolling up, debbie does the produce section and the guy who always stares at me. He's helping her with her grocies and I look over and as he's leaned in her front seat putting the bags down he's looking at me. I don't think I'm like hot stuff or anything but I don't want him to come ask me out either cause I don't want that conversation.
This kinda happened when I was 20 and the bag boy asked me if he could carry my 24 pack of soda to my car and I said no I'm walking across the parking lot to work with it and he said oh I really don't mind I'll carry to your job. I said no it's fine and when I told the girls at work they all wanted to kick my a$$ cause he liked me.
I should parade nick at the grocey store maybe

^^^ You should have your own TV show Becca.

Also, avoid adopting the 'Sleepy Hollow' or 'Pumpkin' look, you don't want to tease the poor guy!

I think I'm possibly my own Truman show at times It's just so odd. He's a nice enough guy and I did look at his hands today an there is no ring so I assume he's single. OMG RC the bag boy from when I was younger he thought I looked like that sleepy hollow girl. That's another good story...
I was checking out once and that movie was big at the time and he said to me you really look like the chick in sleepy hollow. I just said yeah I know. The cashier was a guy and he said look at me. And I looked up at him and he said damn girl you do. And he actually said this to me...You looking to date a black guy.
I just I don't have time to date right now, cause I thought is dating a white girl on his check list and it creeped me out. I've got some stories If you want em rc

Mikey called me today . We talked for 10 mins & I asked him about his grandpa & we talked about other stuff. About halfway through the convo, he suggests that we should hang out sometime & that I should call him later this weekend to plan something. WTF. All of a sudden, he's interested in talking to me again & on top of that, he wants to hang out. Before that, he'd ignore me. WTF!!!

Anyway, if we were to make plans, they'd never happen cause something always comes up or whatever.

You should call him?!?!!???!!! No, he should call you and plan something. And he should hope you'll accept his offer.

I swear, that guy has an angle about everything.

oh pip you should call him when you know he can't pick up and just leave a message..well I tried calling and if you really want to talk or whatever you can call me back.
You'll find out how serious he is soon enough. And you'll test the waters with out having to deal with him too much.

Exactly! I don't get why he insists that we hang out than he says that *I* should call him to make the plans. He's the one that brought it up so he's the one that should be calling me, suggesting what we should do. The whole thing makes zero sense. He probably knows that if picks the plans etc, he has to go through with it but if I do it, he can make an excuse up on the spot.

All I know is that if he really wants to hang out, he should call me again this weekend with the plans. If he doesn't, than he probably was just saying it for the sake of saying it or he just wants to be "nice" . His methods of hanging out are peculiar to say the least.




I've thought of that but he's usually near his mobile 100% of the time. I mean, there will be times where he cannot answer it like when he's in the shower, when he's sleeping etc but I dunno when those are.

I think the best way of finding out how serious is by not calling back. If he doesn't call again, than he was just pulling words outta his arse without caring & I have a feeling that's correct. I mean, if I suggested hanging out with someone & they never called back, I'd certainly call them again to see if they still wanted to do something. If I stopped caring, I'd never make the second phone call.

So if anything happens this weekend, I'll let you guys know but the plan for now is that I let him call me.

RC is right, PiP. Has anything changed? No. Is he still a player? Yes. He isn't worth your time, and you're still not over him if you're even considering taking this kind of crap from him.

Be strong.