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capecod
I have seen these girls perform. They are fantastic! When are they going to be on the show?
nbcFAN00
someone may have broken the 'rules'...tsk tsk tsk...
Diane_T
I concur - these kids are great at what they do and display considerably more talent than some of the acts that have been shown so far - it would be a crime if they didn't at least get the chance to show what they can do!
FAN_OF_SHARON
WHAT "RULES" DID THEY BREAK?
Musicalhands
QUOTE (FAN OF SHARON @ Jun 13 2007, 12:22 PM) *
WHAT "RULES" DID THEY BREAK?


Possibly, I repeat--possibly--because of promoting what they thought was an upcoming appearance, on AGT's message boards.
Shelli B
I have had the opportunity to see Underage perform on several occasions.I belive they should get a chance to sing the show because they have a great chace of winning
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 13 2007, 10:19 AM) *
Possibly, I repeat--possibly--because of promoting what they thought was an upcoming appearance, on AGT's message boards.



I know for a fact that the only thing they ever said was that they auditioned in Los Angeles. They never promoted an "upcoming performance." Besides, don't you think that the show was probably edited before all of this mayhem started? It's not like they could cut someone out five days before it aired, or however long. Hollywood takes their time, and it seems like they take especially long on this show.
friend_of_Underage_Quartet
UnderAge has thousands of fans all over the world. I hope these talented, wholesome young women get a chance to perform on America's Got Talent. These four voices blend in amazing harmony, and they deserve to be heard.

The young woman on the NBC promos who made an obscene gesture has no business being on television. I don't know of anyone who thought that was amusing or entertaining. Her poor mother is probably mortified at that behavior. She should be performing for Paris Hilton in the county jail; normal people don't want to see that.

Make your voices heard, America. If you're in favor of talent, if you're in favor of high quality vocal music, if you're in favor of the "All American Girl" please request to see UnderAge on America's Got Talent.

Sincerely,
One of over 30,000 UnderAge fans.
Camaro_Chick
I get the feeling that penguin888 and agtFAN are the same guy. Look at when they - or should I say, he - joined. And somehow, they - he - always post in the same threads. And pretty much nobody agrees with penguin888 except agtFAN. Same guy. Think about it. It's true lol
Musicalhands
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 02:01 PM) *
I know for a fact that the only thing they ever said was that they auditioned in Los Angeles. They never promoted an "upcoming performance." Besides, don't you think that the show was probably edited before all of this mayhem started? It's not like they could cut someone out five days before it aired, or however long. Hollywood takes their time, and it seems like they take especially long on this show.


I accept what you are saying. That's why emphasized the word "possibly". I don't know for a fact how Hollywood works, and I don't know what Underage said or didn't say.

What I do know is that the hype surrounding Underage on these boards is very obvious. The statements are: "I heard that Underage is going to be on June 12", or "I can't wait to see Underage on America's Got Talent". There are more than a few of these. I don't think the producers of AGT like that, but that's just my opinion. There might not be any problem at all with that--I can't say for sure.
Matt71
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 13 2007, 04:11 PM) *
I accept what you are saying. That's why emphasized the word "possibly". I don't know for a fact how Hollywood works, and I don't know what Underage said or didn't say.

What I do know is that the hype surrounding Underage on these boards is very obvious. The statements are: "I heard that Underage is going to be on June 12", or "I can't wait to see Underage on America's Got Talent". There are more than a few of these. I don't think the producers of AGT like that, but that's just my opinion. There might not be any problem at all with that--I can't say for sure.


I haven't seen the full contract, but my thinking is that it's not a problem. It encourages people to watch the show, which will increase ratings, which is all they really care about. Now, had they announced that they didn't make it, it might be different. However, other performers have pointed out elsewhere that they got X'd off the show and nothing has happened to them, to my knowledge. Who knows?

I'm betting NBC doesn't really care unless you went on the news and told people not to watch, or something blatantly harmful to the show.

,Matt
Squirreli
Sure hope if we ever do actually see them on the show, they are able to live up to all the hype here.
DanaNJ
I'd think the producers would want people watching for whatever reason. Since I heard that UnderAge was auditioning, I've even been watching the re-runs! And I don't change the channel during commercials for fear of missing even a glimpse of them. I give credit to all the performers --it's pretty lonely up there awaiting the slings and arrows of the judges and audience. Why all the vitriol here? I don't expect that my (or anyone else's) post here influences the producers one way or another. I hope to see UnderAge on AGT, but if I don't, then I'll see them somewhere else.
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (Matt71 @ Jun 13 2007, 02:02 PM) *
I haven't seen the full contract, but my thinking is that it's not a problem. It encourages people to watch the show, which will increase ratings, which is all they really care about. Now, had they announced that they didn't make it, it might be different. However, other performers have pointed out elsewhere that they got X'd off the show and nothing has happened to them, to my knowledge. Who knows?

I'm betting NBC doesn't really care unless you went on the news and told people not to watch, or something blatantly harmful to the show.

,Matt



Yeah. To the extent of my knowledge, the producers told all of the contestants that it was ok to tell friends and families that they were participating, only not to give away any details as to what happens to others (x's, future rounds, etc.). But if they haven't breached the contract, and haven't hurt anybody (namely the producers and the network), then I don't see why anyone involved with the making of the show would ever disagree with more viewers.
Musicalhands
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 05:46 PM) *
Yeah. To the extent of my knowledge, the producers told all of the contestants that it was ok to tell friends and families that they were participating, only not to give away any details as to what happens to others (x's, future rounds, etc.). But if they haven't breached the contract, and haven't hurt anybody (namely the producers and the network), then I don't see why anyone involved with the making of the show would ever disagree with more viewers.


There is a difference between telling someone you are participating and telling someone you are on the show. If they are saying that it is OK to say you are participating, they aren't saying that it is OK to tell people you are on the show. If they want more viewers, why wouldn't they say it is OK to tell people they are on the show?
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 13 2007, 03:06 PM) *
There is a difference between telling someone you are participating and telling someone you are on the show. If they are saying that it is OK to say you are participating, they aren't saying that it is OK to tell people you are on the show. If they want more viewers, why wouldn't they say it is OK to tell people they are on the show?



They are allowed to tell people that they will be participating in the show in whatever city they did. Which basically means that people will automatically assume you are "on" the show in that round. Fans interpret everything how they want. And I guess that might be what the producers mean, but they can't promise that people won't get edited out for time constraints. At least they got more viewers. Or at least I'm guessing, from all of these posts...
nbcFAN00
sorry to burst your bubble chica, but we are NOT one in the same...LOL...i just tend to side with penguin because i want to...my choice...there has to be an antagonist...i haven't said anything bad about this group YET...but with 'fans' like you, i might have to start...

think about it...LOL...



QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 02:14 PM) *
I get the feeling that penguin888 and agtFAN are the same guy. Look at when they - or should I say, he - joined. And somehow, they - he - always post in the same threads. And pretty much nobody agrees with penguin888 except agtFAN. Same guy. Think about it. It's true lol
Camaro_Chick
Just saying, if penguin has the right to accuse everyone in the other thred of being the same 4 or 5 people with different names, I have the right to turn that right back at him. It seems plausible, even if it isn't true. And you both have near the same amount of posts, and you joined one day apart. Honestly, I have the grounds to draw that conclusion, and I'm sorry if it's not true.
nbcFAN00
no worries...its cool...i see ur point...but we're not the same person...


QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 05:35 PM) *
Just saying, if penguin has the right to accuse everyone in the other thred of being the same 4 or 5 people with different names, I have the right to turn that right back at him. It seems plausible, even if it isn't true. And you both have near the same amount of posts, and you joined one day apart. Honestly, I have the grounds to draw that conclusion, and I'm sorry if it's not true.
TheQuadmom
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 06:35 PM) *
Just saying, if penguin has the right to accuse everyone in the other thred of being the same 4 or 5 people with different names, I have the right to turn that right back at him. It seems plausible, even if it isn't true. And you both have near the same amount of posts, and you joined one day apart. Honestly, I have the grounds to draw that conclusion, and I'm sorry if it's not true.



All I'm saying is the person who won this first season was the person who also had the most posting about them on the boards...positive or negative. We have not even seen Underage and they went crazy on these boards trying to bring attention to the group. Publicity is a good thing. Kinda can get on the rest of our nerves sometimes....but hey.....I pat em on the back for being hard at work. Would also love to have a showcase for Underage on Path2fame. Contact Matt and he can set that up.
Matt71
QUOTE (TheQuadmom @ Jun 13 2007, 06:48 PM) *
All I'm saying is the person who won this first season was the person who also had the most posting about them on the boards...positive or negative. We have not even seen Underage and they went crazy on these boards trying to bring attention to the group. Publicity is a good thing. Kinda can get on the rest of our nerves sometimes....but hey.....I pat em on the back for being hard at work. Would also love to have a showcase for Underage on Path2fame. Contact Matt and he can set that up.


It's already up with videos.
By the way, I'm in the chat room if anyone wants to chat
TheQuadmom
QUOTE (Matt71 @ Jun 13 2007, 06:53 PM) *
It's already up with videos.
By the way, I'm in the chat room if anyone wants to chat



?..Matt...I'm not seeing the changes...and I'm in the chat and when I entered it said I was already there wierd. Then it let me in. When I checked you in said you had not been on since yesterday. ???
Matt71
QUOTE (TheQuadmom @ Jun 13 2007, 07:05 PM) *
?..Matt...I'm not seeing the changes...and I'm in the chat and when I entered it said I was already there wierd. Then it let me in. When I checked you in said you had not been on since yesterday. ???


Not sure why you are having problems. Have you tried posting lately? maybe your settings got changed or something
G_Falcon
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 01:46 PM) *
Yeah. To the extent of my knowledge, the producers told all of the contestants that it was ok to tell friends and families that they were participating, only not to give away any details as to what happens to others (x's, future rounds, etc.). But if they haven't breached the contract, and haven't hurt anybody (namely the producers and the network), then I don't see why anyone involved with the making of the show would ever disagree with more viewers.


If that is the case, then I don't think they breached the contract. I know one of the girls pretty well, and though she is usually very talkative, she was adamant about not saying anything about the show. I hope UnderAge is put on AGT soon. They really are talented, and I know a lot of people want to see them.
JoeCool
QUOTE (Matt71 @ Jun 13 2007, 04:02 PM) *
I haven't seen the full contract, but my thinking is that it's not a problem. It encourages people to watch the show, which will increase ratings, which is all they really care about. Now, had they announced that they didn't make it, it might be different. However, other performers have pointed out elsewhere that they got X'd off the show and nothing has happened to them, to my knowledge. Who knows?

I'm betting NBC doesn't really care unless you went on the news and told people not to watch, or something blatantly harmful to the show.

,Matt


Ever since the Quiz-Show scandals several decades ago (that was before my time) where the outcomes of some competition TV shows were fixed, there have been federal laws on the books that regulate all of these TV competitions. Basically, it has to be "fair." NBC probably wouldn't care if an act did an active marketing campain to promote itself ahead of their TV airing, but if everybody doesn't get that promotion, then it's not fair and can get them in trouble. So they have to be really careful. Assuming that none of the publicity on the forums was instigated by Underage, it may even be possible that all the attention given them by fans before they were on the show caused NBC to pull them from the LA audition television showing. Obviously, fans can talk about acts after they perform, or else these boards wouldn't exist.

Of course, I don't know any specifics about what is going on behind the scenes of the show, or even the details of the law, only the basic principles. There needs to be some leeway, since some acts appear on comercials, while others do not. Also, not all the acts make it past the editing room onto the show. This is especially true of the acts that are voted off, and for some of those that advance as well. Think of American Idol or America's Got Talent from last year, several people were in the final rounds that were never seen on TV during the auditions. It may be a simple matter of there wasn't enough time for all the acts (even the ones that were voted on), and some had to get cut out of the TV show. If there were in fact too many acts to fit on the show, they may even be edited into one of the other audition shows.

This is all speculation on my part. I don't have any inside information, nor am I trying to tell anyone how it is, so no one needs to get upset with my and tell my how wrong I am. I realize that I probably am wrong. Just some interesting possibilities to think about.
Musicalhands
QUOTE (JohnnyM @ Jun 13 2007, 07:49 PM) *
Ever since the Quiz-Show scandals several decades ago (that was before my time) where the outcomes of some competition TV shows were fixed, there have been federal laws on the books that regulate all of these TV competitions. Basically, it has to be "fair." NBC probably wouldn't care if an act did an active marketing campain to promote itself ahead of their TV airing, but if everybody doesn't get that promotion, then it's not fair and can get them in trouble. So they have to be really careful. Assuming that none of the publicity on the forums was instigated by Underage, it may even be possible that all the attention given them by fans before they were on the show caused NBC to pull them from the LA audition television showing. Obviously, fans can talk about acts after they perform, or else these boards wouldn't exist.

Of course, I don't know any specifics about what is going on behind the scenes of the show, or even the details of the law, only the basic principles. There needs to be some leeway, since some acts appear on comercials, while others do not. Also, not all the acts make it past the editing room onto the show. This is especially true of the acts that are voted off, and for some of those that advance as well. Think of American Idol or America's Got Talent from last year, several people were in the final rounds that were never seen on TV during the auditions. It may be a simple matter of there wasn't enough time for all the acts (even the ones that were voted on), and some had to get cut out of the TV show. If there were in fact too many acts to fit on the show, they may even be edited into one of the other audition shows.

This is all speculation on my part. I don't have any inside information, nor am I trying to tell anyone how it is, so no one needs to get upset with my and tell my how wrong I am. I realize that I probably am wrong. Just some interesting possibilities to think about.


This is an excellent post. The writer is much closer to being right than wrong, IMHO.

For the record, acts were told that they could not "talk to the media" nor have "press releases" about the possibility of being on the show.
sassyrn
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 13 2007, 07:20 PM) *
This is an excellent post. The writer is much closer to being right than wrong, IMHO.

For the record, acts were told that they could not "talk to the media" nor have "press releases" about the possibility of being on the show.


As for me, I know Underage is from California. I think it's safe to assume that they would audition at the closest venue, i.e. LA. When they showed the LA auditions, I looked for them there. Actually, I hoped they were on the first week.
sassyrn
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 13 2007, 05:06 PM) *
There is a difference between telling someone you are participating and telling someone you are on the show. If they are saying that it is OK to say you are participating, they aren't saying that it is OK to tell people you are on the show. If they want more viewers, why wouldn't they say it is OK to tell people they are on the show?


I went to the main AGT site and looked at pictures. Pictures 40-42 were of Underage. So, I know that they were scheduled. If you want to see what you didn't see, go to the main AGT page and click on photos.

They looked good btw.
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (JohnnyM @ Jun 13 2007, 04:49 PM) *
Ever since the Quiz-Show scandals several decades ago (that was before my time) where the outcomes of some competition TV shows were fixed, there have been federal laws on the books that regulate all of these TV competitions. Basically, it has to be "fair." NBC probably wouldn't care if an act did an active marketing campain to promote itself ahead of their TV airing, but if everybody doesn't get that promotion, then it's not fair and can get them in trouble. So they have to be really careful. Assuming that none of the publicity on the forums was instigated by Underage, it may even be possible that all the attention given them by fans before they were on the show caused NBC to pull them from the LA audition television showing. Obviously, fans can talk about acts after they perform, or else these boards wouldn't exist.

Of course, I don't know any specifics about what is going on behind the scenes of the show, or even the details of the law, only the basic principles. There needs to be some leeway, since some acts appear on comercials, while others do not. Also, not all the acts make it past the editing room onto the show. This is especially true of the acts that are voted off, and for some of those that advance as well. Think of American Idol or America's Got Talent from last year, several people were in the final rounds that were never seen on TV during the auditions. It may be a simple matter of there wasn't enough time for all the acts (even the ones that were voted on), and some had to get cut out of the TV show. If there were in fact too many acts to fit on the show, they may even be edited into one of the other audition shows.

This is all speculation on my part. I don't have any inside information, nor am I trying to tell anyone how it is, so no one needs to get upset with my and tell my how wrong I am. I realize that I probably am wrong. Just some interesting possibilities to think about.



I see your point completely, but I really doubt that they would edit an act out two days before they were to air. I'm pretty sure post-production or whatever had already been going on, so I doubt that has anything to do with them not being on. I think they simplay had too many acts in L.A. to show everyone.
JoeCool
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 08:14 PM) *
I see your point completely, but I really doubt that they would edit an act out two days before they were to air. I'm pretty sure post-production or whatever had already been going on, so I doubt that has anything to do with them not being on. I think they simplay had too many acts in L.A. to show everyone.


Yeah, I've thought about it a bit, and if they aren't included, it's probably something that was already decided due to time constraints. Also, I doubt NBC would have edited them out because of excessive chatter from fans (now if they had proof that it was the group themselves doing the promotion, that's something else).

I am interested to see them and see if this state of mild-frenzy about them on the boards is warranted.
Richen
I really wish they would show Underage. They actually have talent, and would have been alot more fun to watch then alot of what I sat through Tuesday night.
ProfessionalJoe
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Yeah. To the extent of my knowledge, the producers told all of the contestants that it was ok to tell friends and families that they were participating, only not to give away any details as to what happens to others (x's, future rounds, etc.).

QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 13 2007, 05:12 PM) *
They are allowed to tell people that they will be participating in the show in whatever city they did.

Are you one of the contestants Camaro Chick? You seem to claim to know a lot about "the contract" ph34r.gif
Musicalhands
QUOTE (JohnnyM @ Jun 14 2007, 02:09 AM) *
Yeah, I've thought about it a bit, and if they aren't included, it's probably something that was already decided due to time constraints. Also, I doubt NBC would have edited them out because of excessive chatter from fans (now if they had proof that it was the group themselves doing the promotion, that's something else).

I am interested to see them and see if this state of mild-frenzy about them on the boards is warranted.


You might be right. However, the other side of the coin is that Underage, to my knowledge, is the most pre-hyped act on the boards. Other chatter of any significance is about acts who have already been seen.

As for proof about pre-hype coming from Underage, NBC, obviously, wouldn't need proof of anything to pull anyone out of a show (if that's what they did). They do what they want with the acts. They are under no obligation to show anyone, even those who have moved on. If they think someone has been unfairly given a head start in their million dollar competition, they might pull them.

Also, I don't know how much time it would take for NBC to make a last-minute change in the final editing. My guess is that they would be able to put in a different act in a very short amount of time--maybe only a few hours. They might be totally prepared for these contingencies. I don't see it being that hard, or time consuming, if they are ready for it ahead of time.
nbcFAN00
i had the same thought yesterday or at the very least related to the group...hmmmm


QUOTE (ProfessionalJoe @ Jun 14 2007, 02:56 AM) *
Are you one of the contestants Camaro Chick? You seem to claim to know a lot about "the contract" ph34r.gif
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (ProfessionalJoe @ Jun 14 2007, 12:56 AM) *
Are you one of the contestants Camaro Chick? You seem to claim to know a lot about "the contract" ph34r.gif



No, but I have a lot of family in the legal business, so I do know a bit about contracts. And I know enough about the entertainment industry to say what I say. I really don't know much more than you - I'm just extrapolating everything I've heard with what I know, and I've talked to contestants about what they are allowed to say.
Musicalhands
QUOTE (Camaro Chick @ Jun 14 2007, 04:41 PM) *
No, but I have a lot of family in the legal business, so I do know a bit about contracts. And I know enough about the entertainment industry to say what I say. I really don't know much more than you - I'm just extrapolating everything I've heard with what I know, and I've talked to contestants about what they are allowed to say.


Have you talked to contestants from AGT? Possibly Underage? If I'm not mistaken, you had stated previously that you "know for a fact" what Underage had said about possibly being on the show. Just curious...
Camaro_Chick
QUOTE (Musicalhands @ Jun 14 2007, 02:28 PM) *
Have you talked to contestants from AGT? Possibly Underage? If I'm not mistaken, you had stated previously that you "know for a fact" what Underage had said about possibly being on the show. Just curious...



A little bit, but like someone said before, and I don't remember who, they are even very careful about no saying anything about any results or details. They won't tell anybody anything. Only what they're allowed, apparently, to say. And that's all I know.
Tiz
Underage is totally awesome. Underage is a true example that America's Got Talent.
REDrake
My daughter used to sing with one of these girls so I have been telling everyone I know to watch the show and look for the group. Now everybody thinks I've made it all up. I guess I need to tell them about the pictures - I noticed a lot of them were of people not shown on the show. Last year I remember that at the end of the show they would spend a minute or so to show some of the acts that weren't featured but still made it, I wish they would do that this year.



QUOTE (capecod @ Jun 12 2007, 10:11 PM) *
I have seen these girls perform. They are fantastic! When are they going to be on the show?
cjfbs
We need to make sure that NBC needs to promote the groups / individuals who really do have talent and not Shakira Boy. What an insult to the rest of the constants. UNDERAGE is extremely talented and needs to be showcased just like Westminster.
Wanda_Beckham
"I've seen UnderAge perform and they are amazing, I think they can win this!." They are young women and deserve a chance. Let the nation listen to some great harmony!!!! smile.gif
Cice101
1. agtFAn is my hero smile.gif

2. If anyone was watching Chicago carfully, they would have spotted Underage warming up backstage. That shows they are on the show, just haven't gotten the spotlight on the show yet. We have to wait to find out if the judges put them through to Vegas, and if they aren't shown then, we have to see if they are put through to the finals, then if they are in the finals, they'll get shown for sure.
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