Hi, I was thinking about what Imus said and why NBC decided to fire him. I know what Imus, said was very stupid and wrong, that was one reason why he was fired, the guy from NBC said his comments were very bad. I also heard on the news that the advertisers that supported the show pulled their advertising after finding out what Don Imus said on air. I think when the advertisers pulled their support, Imus had a harder time staying on MSNBC (NBC), and that could of been the bigger reason Imus was fired.

Anyway....

My question is why would MSNBC, who is part of NBC (they are basicly the same compaign) fire Imus based on what he said, and lack of advertising support. And yet Conan's show has some pretty crude jokes about people and things (Ex:Triumph the dog) and NBC doesn't seem to have a problem with it? Is it because late night TV can get away with this stuff? Or they have different standards on different show? What do all of you think?

THe reason why Imus was fired was because it was a slow news day and the media has lost all integrety and have become a pack of canniblistic bullies whom are only after ratings due to the world being owned by three major corperations now. Imus used the words nappy headed hoes to descibe the female basket ball team, there is nothing racially motivated in those words. When I wake up in the morning my hair is nappy and hoe is just a common derogatory term for a woman. When a person is in the spot light they will have critism brush upon them and it is up to the person to let it roll off their back. Imus said something that was mean and that was it. Conan is much more popular and rakes in more money then Imus ever thought of for NBC and when Imus said something mean the media desided to brain wash america and creat a villian for the sake of money. I have never listened to Imus, but it was just an easy target and when push came to shove if NBC didn't fire him because the world now thinks he is a racist it could then be constued that NBC was condoning racism that was why Imus got fired. It always comes down to money wanting to get it and the fear of loosing it when you are dealing with the business world and politics.

I would also just like to add that even though Imus's words from my opinion would not be considered a racist remark his inability to appologise sincerely for offending the basketball team was. He wasn't fighting any good fight. He was someone in the public eye who said something that offended a people. THe appropiate thing to do would be to apologise right away for it, but he didn't which only perpetuated the media. There is a Mel Gibson joke in this, but saying something that can be construed as racist is a lot like drunk driving. When people think that you have had to much to drink you have to go off the social cues as to what is the appropiate thing to do and not put the keys in the egnition. Being self-rightous and denying any wrong doing is never right. When you say something that offends a people and you meant no harm by it and do not want to be thought of a racist then you must apologise.

THis makes me think of the "COnan Hates My homeland" thing. THis is different from Imus in the fact that the joke is not at some one else's expense really but more about what an A.ss Conan is being. He is a comedian's comedian and is taking the offensive joke that would insult people and making it laughing at himself rather then what he says. The whole reason for the bit is to see who is watching his show in various places on globe and see who would send him hate mail. It is a ridiculous concept. Where as Imus was just being an insensitive jerk.

Triuph is also in the same arena of laughing not at what the puppet is saying and laughing with it but laughing that his whole bit is centered around the phrase "For me to poop on" He might be saying something offencive but altimately the joke is always on Triumph. He is not supposed to be taken seriously and be making real commentary on social issues. His jokes are basic school yard infantilism that should be taken lightheartedly. AS far as I see it that is all the simmilarities and differences I see in Imus and Conan.

So the jokes are different Imus is truly stating what his opinion is where as Conan is making fun of that opinion. I hope I made sence in this.

So the jokes are different Imus is truly stating what his opinion is where as Conan is making fun of that opinion. I hope I made sence in this.

He is a comedian's comedian and is taking the offensive joke that would insult people and making it laughing at himself rather then what he says.

I would also like to add in all actuallity how racist the media is in their treatment of illegal aliens. That is real racism. In watching the Daily Show tonight it was clearly pointed out what we are supposed to believe to be fact, that illegal aliens are disease ridden and child molesters is not racist but that Imus's actions were?

Well, I think sometimes it works and sometimes it does not.

I think if Conan's show in someway said the same thing Imus said, then Conan would get away with it, with less backlash, and that would probably be because Conan is supposed to be a comedian and have a comedy show.

I would have to agree with you on this. I know for the most part Conan's jokes were not what you would refer to as "bad" with out it being a joke about Conan. However when he does make those kinds of jokes it does go into murky water of what exactly the people are laughing at. It is kind of like the whole idea of what happened when Triumph went to Quebec and inadvertantly started to make social commentary that all the French Canadians were agreeing with. THere are delicate issues out there that need to be breeched in a delicate, thoughtful, and a sofisticated manner. Topics that come to mind are gay jokes, mental illness jokes, and jokes about illegal immigrants. I truely believe that a society can be judged on how intelligent, compassionate, and moral they are by what they laugh at and what is the nature of the jokes they laugh at. THere is a fine line a person walks when they start to joke about something they don't quite fully understand [i]and[i] have some fear or resentment towards, and are not willing to look at the situation, topic what have you, in an honest light. An example I have is how late night handled the crazy astronaunt thing. To me the joke that ended up being made most of the time was how different and crazy this woman's actions were. I think when you try to humanise and justify all of her actions and make her actions more of the neurotic then the psychodic there is more humor to be found and ultimately the joke is not offencive because people can identify with neuosis. Or take the situation as is and make the joke not be constantly situatied on the crazy actions of the woman, but rather how to come back from the situation. Imagine all the awkward situations she will have now. Example she is buying briefs for her elderly parents who are in a nursing home. She will most likely have to use the line "it's not what you think" something like that. Unfortuately the joke that was made most of the time was your weird, yuck. Those are just my ideas and opinions and you know what people say about those. I feel that that was a prime example of how Conan was able to make an Imus like joke and get away with it. There are of course other reasons why Conan was able to make a joke like that and get away with it which if I went into would go way off topic. When Conan has made certain gay jokes in the past it became a thing I think where he doesn't even know what line he has crossed and what the audience is laughing at. Even though it started off as a "bad" or "dumb" joke and Conan is making fun of him self for making it. Applause is a drug and you can really loose your head if you don't know how to handle it right or where you want to lead it. So those are my thoughts on that idea. Thanks for writing back. I hope I made sence in this.

Also what is that picture of? It seems kind of familiar to me. Is that Mexican Art or something?