Actually, Fonda was nominated on several occasions, and won for On Golden Pond. I believe he also won a Golden Globe, and I am fairly sure he won a BAFTA. He also won a Tony for his stage creation of Mr Roberts. Edward G Robinson's career spanned some of the biggest movies of the day, back in his heyday of the '40s, and he received top billing over Bogart on many occasions. He was never nominated - and should have been - but he didn't have much face in Hollywood post-McCarthy (to protect himself, Robinson had 'named names' during the House Un-American Activities witchhunt). Still, he made a comeback to co-star in a number of top movies.

Lia, I don't think a 'win' is necessary to be recognised. I do think VDO needs to move to the next level of his career, to be a presence in films where he can be nominated, where he can move up from the minor indie ranks. I love indie films myself, and I love smallish films, too. VDO's indies are not often even easy to find on DVD. ( I suspect that his new-found fame has prompted a few TV movie channels to rummage through their collections for D'Onofrio flicks.) His parts, with some exceptions, are small as well.

Now, he can keep on doing little films and supporting parts, or he can join the company of the greats. Here is a career path that I would like VDO to parallel. Sir Anthony Hopkins made his name in both mainstream, indie and art-house Merchant Ivory flicks, and he has been recognised by the industry, by his country, and by the film-going world at large. He chose good films, good parts, I think, without sacrificing "art", and as he rose in recognition, his choice of roles magnified. IMO, VDO needs better offers, or to make better choices, and the latter usually affects the former.

I don't disagree that more mainstream roles would bring him the success, fame and fortune that we so desperately crave for him (LOL) but here's a quote from the man himself in 2003 that may answer where he'll be going next.

"I'm never going to stop being a character actor," he says. "I'm never going to stop having my imagination. You know, my good friends think that every choice I make, I make it to destroy my career. It's actually just because I'm interested in that far-out stuff -- you know, sometimes. And sometimes I'm interested in just everyday men that I could play."

from the Orlando Sentinel, courtesy the reel.

Thanks for posting of 'the man's' thoughts about his career, rowe! I like how the quote includes the comment about his good friends, and how they feel about his choices. No one can tell ya better about the road they are going down than the person on it!

Good God, I cannot believe we are talking about his teeth!

Well, it has been and will continue to be a long time until February 6th!!!

Is it that he feels comfortable and safe in what he is doing? Not pushing the envelope to get into the mainstream films, but lending his talents and name to indie films to help make them work? Maybe taking the road less traveled is more important to him? (Love Robert Frost poems! )

We could analyze the what fors and what ifs, but it boils down to the what he wants to do, and the way he wants his career to go. Does that make him less of an actor? Would we like him less?

No and No.

Nice quote link, rowe! I've read either that one or 1 or 2 others like it. I, actually, don't really care if he takes his career to the "next level" or keeps doing what he does as long as he does it somewhere that I can ACTUALLY SEE HIM do it. Roles as small as that in The Break Up he's too far above having to take (which he didn't - did it as a favor), even before joining LOCI. Any return to or interweaving of a film career, I would hope it to be at least at the 'go-to' level he had started establishing for himself. Only things that I would HATE to see happen is for him to fade off into obscurity or to make a move into more cached forms of acting such as repeats of the film short that we all have yet to, and probably never will, see or acting exclusively on the stage. In those arenas, he might find a way to be pretty happy, but, for me as a fan of not unlimited means, it'd suck!

royally

as long as he does it somewhere that I can ACTUALLY SEE HIM do it.

Lia,

Rowe moved those posts to the "Off Topic" thread -- at least I think she did.

Wait - Was there a serious discussion about his teeth on here somewhere? Here I thought we were discussing the ridiculousness of people making a grand and heated discussion about the fact that the man had done something to his teeth? A far more nuanced conversation than the descriptions thereafter seem to want to imply....

HOWEVER, it is still a conversation that wouldn't have happened if we actually had a television program to be talking about!!
dagnabit

I don't disagree that more mainstream roles would bring him the success, fame and fortune that we so desperately crave for him (LOL) but here's a quote from the man himself in 2003 that may answer where he'll be going next.

"I'm never going to stop being a character actor," he says. "I'm never going to stop having my imagination. You know, my good friends think that every choice I make, I make it to destroy my career. It's actually just because I'm interested in that far-out stuff -- you know, sometimes. And sometimes I'm interested in just everyday men that I could play."

from the Orlando Sentinel, courtesy the reel.

QUOTE(rowenaaine @ Jan 28 2007, 09:53 AM) I don't disagree that more mainstream roles would bring him the success, fame and fortune that we so desperately crave for him (LOL) but here's a quote from the man himself in 2003 that may answer where he'll be going next.

"I'm never going to stop being a character actor," he says. "I'm never going to stop having my imagination. You know, my good friends think that every choice I make, I make it to destroy my career. It's actually just because I'm interested in that far-out stuff -- you know, sometimes. And sometimes I'm interested in just everyday men that I could play."

from the Orlando Sentinel, courtesy the reel.


You know I think thats part of what I've been so Interested or attracted too not sure what word would discribe it .

But , I think it's great that he feels that way .

and You put it quiet well Rowe .

But , he has to be the one happy in the end with what he's doing .
whether it's on the tv show or on movies even off broadway productions.

And we can't really keep him in our view forever. as much as we want to . eventually the envitable would be that he want's to just do either a small bit part movie or big part movie once in a while or an off or on broadway play. that we can't see.

I personally I want to add Just want to see him continuelly content with his work whether it be the show/tv or off broadway or a movie .

Would anyone here agree with this?


decieded to realter my post alil

I read somewhere that VDO said that since he's been on LOCI, people have started recognizing him (how could they not have before?). It sounded like he wasn't too happy about it. It seems like he's right about where he wants to be professionally: doing great work while staying just under the radar. Well, OTHER people's radar.

Hi Bobby'sGirl! I responded to one of your posts already, but here's where I get to say my "Welcome" spiel. I DO hope you will introduce yourself to us in the Welcome topic and that you continue to post. We are glad to have another LOCI fan in our midst.

I've read in a few interviews that VDO is definitely recognized more due to the show, especially in NY. But he sounded as though it was a part of the job and that he didn't mind stopping to sign autographs when going out for a quart of milk. I think what he doesn't like is American (and British) tabloid obsession. Part of the reason he loves Australia, not just because he lived there and his daughter was born there, is because they seem to accept actors as people rather than celebrities. They know who he is, and yet he feels he can come and go without being hassled. (My word-I've never seen him use the word hassled-I have only seen him say "you have to be gracious" when talking about stopping to talk to fans.)

We can only hope he's happy with what he's doing, but I imagine we'll know soon enough once we hear whether the show is being renewed and if he's coming back.

rowe

OK, what is going on with that head of hair?

I am posing this question and would appreciate your imput, friends.
Goren's hair is getting super long because...

1. VDO is growing it out for a summer movie project unknown to us.

2. VDO thinks the longer hair makes him look younger & slimmer?

3. Goren character is too busy & distracted with mother issues to get a haircut.



Naydi suggested we put the weed wacker to his head.

Um...I'm thinking that you're over thinking here. Remember S4? In the ep 'Want' VDO's hair was pretty long. I think it's just how he feels like he should wear his hair. Doesn't really mean anything. But of course, I could always be wrong. IF he is doing an upcoming project, please, anyone let me know. I'll rush right out to watch whatever movie he's doing.

I respectfully disagree with you, Sparkle.

I though that in the last two episodes, VDO looked rather trim & slim. You can tell by his tie clip, it was more centered, not way up high over his belly like last season. I believe he is still losing weight & will look even slimmer in "Brother's Keeper."

He probably can't maintain the slimness that he has a few years back, especially if he is still not smoking.

As far as his grey hair, it's very difficult to color salt & pepper hair without going too dark. That's the problem with Chris Noth, he looks like he has a dye job.

Depends on your taste. I like his hair the way it is.

I think he will keep looking younger as he loses weight. Check out The ReelBlog's links to Channel 10 in Australia's CI promos. VDO looks great, grey hair & all.

......And VDO probably won't dye it in his personal life either - he's not vain enough.......

Yes - any man secure enough to purposely go forth with the Old Man Grady look when not working isn't gonna let a little thing like grey hair stop him.
...yup, thas' right; from Sanford and Son... said it out loud, too, I did.

Yes - any man secure enough to purposely go forth with the Old Man Grady look when not working isn't gonna let a little thing like grey hair stop him.
...yup, thas' right; from Sanford and Son... said it out loud, too, I did.

SPARKLE-4-U[/b]Posted Today, 04:15 AM <SPAN class=postcolor><FONT size=2>]If Vincent is planning to stay a few more years with Law & Order, he really NEEDS to drop a few more pounds and dye his hair!! He's looking too "fluffy" and grey...

Naydi, I think you should write another letter / post to VDO & include this statement.

Maybe then he will get a much needed haircut?

Old Man Grady - girl, I love it!! I LOVED Sanford and Son...but that was just too cruel! Poor VDO...

Yeeeeeah -looks down, kicks a rock- but did I lie???! That's just something I just could never understand.... The grey; now that'll happen ... I don't plan on doing anything with mine if it comes in the right way, either (besides - against my skin color? yah mahn). But that whole "look"... Why make yourself appear aged when you don't have to? shooooo - 'Til the wrinkles start taking over and some deep creases start coming in - I say put that sh't off, man!!

He probably can't maintain the slimness that he has a few years back, especially if he is still not smoking.

As far as his grey hair, it's very difficult to color salt & pepper hair without going too dark.

You just can't stop knocking our boy, now can you? First the run, now the Grady look...give the guy a break!

And you might change your tune on the greys. I've always been one for telling people to "let it go natural, "it looks good on you." Now mine's starting to come in grey here and there, and I'm starting to ask people about good hair dyes.

Amen on that one

You know, it might look completely different in person, but, maaaaan, from this distance all I'm gettin' is "Good Goobley Goo!".

Him, though,...


...he's not completely left us. In fact, he's not traveled all that far away, I should say. I've faith that we'll see him again some day....

Not to mention the curls! Wow! He looks good in my eyes!

BTW, I feel grey is earned. I am beginning to get a lot of grey, and I feel after 50 years, dag nab it, I earned it, and I don't plan on covering up this badge of honor!

Amen When I get to that point i don't intend to cover it up either .

and I think he looks beautiful

VDO's grey is sexy. He is sexy. Luckily for him, his grey is coming in quite nicely, mostly on the sides. With women, it comes in from the roots on top. Not quite the same thing. Sadly, I have never heard a woman who lets her hair grow out grey as "sexy."

Chris Noth colors his hair, and it's quite obvious. He looks younger, I guess, but has been criticized for it. And that is wrong. He doesn't have the baby face VDO has, so grey hair may really age him.

VDO is continuing to lose weight. He looks great. Many say he is much slimmer in person, as the camera adds weight. You can tell by his tie clip that his gut is much flatter than last season.

Me being picky, trivial and such.

I personally love the salt and pepper look in a man or a woman's hair. As a matter of fact a co-worker asked me last week who my colorist was because she would die for my highlights. I told her it was a home job, she wanted to know what I was using, I told her I earned each one of my grays and she was just beside herself with annoyance. I will give her the business card from my stylist though. Hers apparently uses hedge clippers.

Poor Chris Noth looks like he needs to go a shade or so lighter from whatever he's having done. A bit of gray at the temples looks so excellent on a man and he is undoubtedly a hot commodity, but the hair is feh for me the color it is. I'm also not a huge fan of the slicked down look he's sported in the past and his face needs a longer cut.

With or without curls, Vincent looks perfect as is. I prefer no particular length over another. I wouldn't touch a hair on that man's head, unless I received expressed written permission and he REALLY needed a scalp massage, then dude, I am so there!!

Please forgive me because I know this is completely off-topic but I don't know where to ask this question:

What's the deal with that photo of a young D'Onofrio draped in chains? It's all over this board. Is it a still from a film? If so, what film?

AL

When I first started watching L&O:CI I was blown away by Bobby Goren. D'Onofrio was incredible. Now I find the characther has slipped into the realm of incredulity. Not only do I repeatedly ask if it is contrived that he knows something about "everything". But I am also more and more annoyed that Eames seems to contribute little if anything to the solving of the case. She agrees with him but does not contribute much to the logic of solving the case, finding clues, etc. How do others feel?