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Seraphina
QUOTE (CvlSrvnt @ Oct 26 2006, 12:15 AM) *
Okay, folks, we now return you to your regularly scheduled Vincent thread.


Oh poep ("****" in Dutch)! That means I have to go on topic again. Well, I`ve heard a lot of stuff about everyone loving his the way he has his hair right now, but I wasn`t instantly hooked on the grey, that totally had to grow on me, which it now has. Curls are my thing anyway, so no comments there. Very superficial, but hey, it`s 2.38 AM here, my party sucked really bad, I don`t think anybody would expect an intellectual response from me right now...right...RIGHT??? *gets out guns just in case anybody says otherwise*

On the other hand I`m starting to find it increasingly difficult to see the difference between season 5 Goren (as shown on Dutch tv right now) and season 6 Goren. It`s not that VDO doesn`t pull it off, but it just starts to feel a bit wrong. Which is why I hope they lay low on the character development, like they did in the last epi.

Guess I`ll just go to bed now cool.gif .
dewes306

I maybe new here but not new posting to boards.
Ofcourse everyone has a right to privacy..but when you become an actor in Hollywood or anywhere you can say goodbye to privacy.Thats why they call them public figures people.

Wodering if someone is married is not prying into their lives..just go to imdb.com and their life history is right there. What do you think e-online is?? To all those who are single out there or actually to those who say you are prying..you can't tell me that when you think someone is good looking the first that pops into your head is marrital status. We are all guilty and i get so sick and tired of people slamming someone for asking about somenses status...look at the grocery isles people..it's all there.

Fantasize all you want..the government doesn't have control over peoples minds yet!! I'll dream about both of them ..Goran and Vincent..how about Vincent playing Goran..works for me!!
naydi
I sincerely hope they do... As interesting as the backstory and bubbling emotions have always been, it's because they were backstory and bubbling emotions! The frustrating part before was that they'd sometimes go episode after episode with no exploration into the characters at all, just complete focus on the crime and crime-solving skills of our hero. As great as that was, the hunger was pretty strong, at least for me, for knowing more about the origins of the flashes of inappropriate anger, the cowed deference sprinkled with petulant behavior in interactions with male superiors, the inappropriate use of physical intimidation and the like. I loved whenever those traits were pushed out into the forefront , as well as seeing more situations in which they came out. What has happened, though, is that instead of addressing these base character traits, we've gone right past them into dealing with pain and fear. How 'bout seeing these established flaws pushed to a point of outside reproach or self-examination, maybe, instead of seeing them set aside in favor of "out of character" Goren exploration? There was an attempt to somewhat do that in A Person of Interest; but, again, it was a big jump to extreme behavior just in the interest of selling a sensational storyline. After that, we just kind of forgot about it and no true recognition of the issue by Goren himself or attempt at change, which could have been interesting, was ever explored. You know, perhaps, Goren getting up and leaving one or two interviews with the "bad father" - coming back after barely collecting himself, maybe... Or being called out of the room after not editing himself, and trying to re-enter it less intimidatingly with that little smile that he does that's both sweet and scary as h'ell at the same time... I can close my eyes and see Vincent pulling off scenes like that brilliantly and believably. Instead, we've left the whole fighter within Goren behind, as though it never existed, in order to deal with more submissive and defeatist man's emotionality.

Well, anyway, can't change what's been put forth so far this season... We are where we are, but I'd really like to see a major re-Gorenization of Goren before we go any further down the emotional and mental anguish path. Bedfellows was a nice indication that we might be getting some of that, but I'm not all too trusting of the show right now, to be honest...

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silvia-m
QUOTE (dewes306 @ Oct 26 2006, 04:04 AM) *
Of course everyone has a right to privacy..but when you become an actor in Hollywood or anywhere you can say goodbye to privacy.Thats why they call them public figures people.


I beg to differ. Acting is a career choice, a profession like any other. Some actors just want to be the celebrity of the semester, but that's a different story. They are not entitled to their privacy because they use their personal lives to get, let's say, 22 pages on Vanity Fair magazine. In that case, of course people are gonna gossip and they can't complain. But, believe it or not, some actors do it for the art, not for fame, fortune, and exposure. And Vincent chose to be a professional actor, not a professional celebrity.
dewes306
QUOTE (Silvia @ Oct 26 2006, 01:30 PM) *
I beg to differ. Acting is a career choice, a profession like any other. Some actors just want to be the celebrity of the semester, but that's a different story. They are not entitled to their privacy because they use their personal lives to get, let's say, 22 pages on Vanity Fair magazine. In that case, of course people are gonna gossip and they can't complain. But, believe it or not, some actors do it for the art, not for fame, fortune, and exposure. And Vincent chose to be a professional actor, not a professional celebrity.


I beg to differ..
Anyone who is anyone who is the industry knows from growing up with a television knows what will come with the territory!! I respect his acting, and I respect his privacy. But wondering about someone is not prying into their lives. Trying to figure out his address, phone and his daily routine is whole different disussion.
CI fan
QUOTE (PeachyBC @ Oct 23 2006, 03:58 PM) *
Wait! Wait! I've got it! Here are some completely fun ways for Goren to depart.

Sick to death of the job, Goren begins to question exactly what good he really does in the scheme of things. He plots and executes the perfect crime and retires to Bora Bora. The last scene we see of Goren he's lazing on the beach in the sun, beautiful native girls all around him, a big grin plastered on his face. LOL

Or Goren suffers from some rare form of amnesia (sound familiar?). He can't remember who he is at all, but recalls that he likes to dance. He starts teaching dance classes at a local Fred Astaire dance studio. Anyone want to Tango?? LMHO wink.gif



DEPART!! Hopefully NEVER!! Then the show would be over!!!!!! And that would NOT be fun.
krist
I thought this site was to discuss CI. When some of us discuss a show it will consist of the characters we come to love/hate as well as the actors who protray them. I dont see anything wrong is saying " Vincent is a fine specimen of man". One reason is HE IS and second is that he is a person we watch on tv and not just a character. I see this form as a way to discuss our likes/hates of a show and the actors who protray them. So it seems some people may need the 13th step--you know--the one to get off that 'high horse'. Dont take things so serious and if you dont want to read it on the net then dont read it. But I for one would prefer you not be like people who complain about what on tv or the radio when all you have to do is -TURN THE CHANNEL--Life is to short to be doing nothing but ******** I dont say this to upset you or anyone else who may feel as you do but only to say that we are all different and view different and some of us like to talk about characters and the 'REAL PEOPLE' who created them. I truly dont think any one of these actors would be offended by our TALK. This is what this is about TALK. I respect you opionion so please respect ours in our need to talk to others who have them same interest. I know my husband prefers I not talk about CI(he doesnt like any of the L&A shows) to him and especially Vinny baby so I use this site to just look at what others say and if I feel to it add my own thoughts. Feel free to post but not to tell us what we can/should post or not. Thank you for your time----
DonnaLucy
As I'm sure you're all aware by now, "The War At Home" Thanksgiving episode is now scheduled for Nov. 14th, one week earlier. Yay!
naydi
Got up late (again - thank God I work for a hospital, giving me instant understanding in putting up with my last semester bulls-..) and I should be in the shower BUT: Aaaaanybody catch the preview for next week's "mother of a show"??(<--that's kind of ghey, but saying so is now just being picky)

Looks like they may be about to shut me up in all my "Where's my Goren mad.gif ??" complaining - Good LORD, I hope so!!!!!











Yay for Deval Patrick!!!
CI fan
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 8 2006, 07:36 AM) *
Got up late (again - thank God I work for a hospital, giving me instant understanding in putting up with my last semester bulls-..) and I should be in the shower BUT: Aaaaanybody catch the preview for next week's "mother of a show"??(<--that's kind of ghey, but saying so is now just being picky)

Looks like they may be about to shut up in all my "Where's my Goren mad.gif ??" complaining - Good LORD, I hope so!!!!!











Yay for Deval Patrick!!!








I did see the preview. Robert, looking hot in his plaid shirt and brown suede jacket, was very upset and trashing his desk. I'm sure it has to do with Mom. It's going to be a heart-wrenching episode. Also, Fran Drescher's character looks interesting. Can't wait to see it...tape it...and see it again!
naydi
QUOTE (CI fan @ Nov 8 2006, 08:36 AM) *
I did see the preview. Robert, looking hot in his plaid shirt and brown suede jacket, was very upset and trashing his desk. I'm sure it has to do with Mom. It's going to be a heart-wrenching episode. Also, Fran Drescher's character looks interesting. Can't wait to see it...tape it...and see it again!


[left]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT is Robert Goren - not this pure muted, restrained-weeping depression. The latter can be there, sure; but you don't go taking away his anger for the sake of it... Both facets (or all, depending) can co-exist within the same thought, moment, feeling, and word: This I know.
DonnaLucy
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 8 2006, 10:17 AM) *
THAT is Robert Goren - not this pure muted, restrained-weeping depression. The latter can be there, sure; but you don't go taking away his anger for the sake of it... Both facets (or all, depending) can co-exist within the same thought, moment, feeling, and word: This I know.


Naydi, that is an INSPIRED OBSERVATION! That simmering anger & emotion is what Goren is all about. Until this season I can't recall him ever being portrayed as so weepy, melancholy with this feet-shuffling resignation.
ITS ABOUT TIME THEY SHOWED HIM ****** OFF at what he's been dealt.
CvlSrvnt
QUOTE
THAT is Robert Goren - not this pure muted, restrained-weeping depression. The latter can be there, sure; but you don't go taking away his anger for the sake of it... Both facets (or all, depending) can co-exist within the same thought, moment, feeling, and word: This I know.


Mmmm, have to disagree a little here, hon. It's not always anger (and even when it is, he can let it simmer for quite some time before he explodes*). He actually has a few brief moments where he almost seems content (usually with Eames).

But he is never...placid. Regardless of whether the emotion of the moment is anger, or enthusiasm, or his ever-brimming curiosity, he is always restless. The only times I have seen that man be still are in the early interrogations with Nicole Wallace, and in those scenes you got a sense of overwhelming emotion, barely restrained...as if he's afraid that movement of any sort will cause him to lose it completely. But even there, it was not strictly anger. There was a great deal of that, of course, directed at Nicole and her father, but there was also intense pain, sorrow, regret, and a half-dozen other emotions over the course of those few minutes. Not to cross threads, but that acting was worthy of A. Sorkin's writing happy.gif

Anyway, I think what I'm trying to say is that it's not any particular emotion that has made Goren seem 'off' this season - it's the passiveness and lack of emotion that feels so wrong. He's typically as into everything as a puppy at a birthday party, and this season - with a few notable exceptions (Eames' kidnapping) - he has just seemed detached from everything. And that is not our Goren.

* for some reason I pictured a construction sign - "WARNING: Exploding Gorens Ahead"
naydi
QUOTE (CvlSrvnt @ Nov 8 2006, 01:48 PM) *
Mmmm, have to disagree a little here, hon. It's not always anger .......... but there was also intense pain, sorrow, regret, and a half-dozen other emotions over the course of those few minutes.


Good Lord, Woman! Can't a b!tch take a short-cut every now and again!!??!?!?? laugh.gif My main point that I've been throwing around with varying focus on one aspect or another all around the board; is that they've been playing him way too tame, beaten down, depressed, and tired in his pain. Showing his anger in that split second of a shot -which we Vincent fans all know will be layered with more than just that- shows a huge step in the right direction toward correcting the character to being the "whole person" that we know him to be. It's about d'mn time that they took it, too...!!!
CI fan
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 8 2006, 02:26 PM) *
Good Lord, Woman! Can't a b!tch take a short-cut every now and again!!??!?!?? laugh.gif My main point that I've been throwing around with varying focus on one aspect or another all around the board; is that they've been playing him way too tame, beaten down, depressed, and tired in his pain. Showing his anger in that split second of a shot -which we Vincent fans all know will be layered with more than just that- shows a huge step in the right direction toward correcting the character to being the "whole person" that we know him to be. It's about d'mn time that they took it, too...!!!


I am looking forward to that step too. He has been "beaten down, depressed, and tired in his pain" - certainly relating to his mother's diagnosis. If her condition worsens when he cannot be with her on Thanksgiving, as the episode description suggests, I believe even Robert would say " Anger is the correct response."
KTdid
Thanks to this thread - I went back and reviewed the "preview." A few interesting things of note: Though it was brief, Goren looked terrible (disheveled, etc.). Also, the look on his face is wierd - placcid - for such an angry action. I think they powers that be have really been having Bobby spiral down into something. I am still hoping for the "self-medication" angle (and NOT more than the run-of-the-mill-Bobby mental illness)...

And finally - NO mention of Momma. Don't you think if Moreno was in the show, they would promo it?
naydi
QUOTE (KTdid? @ Nov 8 2006, 03:03 PM) *
Thanks to this thread - I went back and reviewed the "preview." A few interesting things of note: Though it was brief, Goren looked terrible (disheveled, etc.). Also, the look on his face is wierd - placcid - for such an angry action. I think they powers that be have really been having Bobby spiral down into something. I am still hoping for the "self-medication" angle (and NOT more than the run-of-the-mill-Bobby mental illness)...

And finally - NO mention of Momma. Don't you think if Moreno was in the show, they would promo it?


"...a mother of a show" with Goren on screen clearing his desk.... NBC has at least learned not to give away the milk in their promos! I certainly don't want to see one hair of Mama Goren until he takes us in to see her next week!!!



EDIT: ...or is it the farm? aaaaaah who the h'll cares the sentence is complete...
CvlSrvnt
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 8 2006, 03:09 PM) *
"...a mother of a show" with Goren on screen clearing his desk.... NBC has at least learned not to give away the milk in their promos! I certainly don't want to see one hair of Mama Goren until he takes us in to see her next week!!!
EDIT: ...or is it the farm? aaaaaah who the h'll cares the sentence is complete...



Clearing your desk is what you do when you resign from a job. Goren dumped his desk like a drill sergeant. "Now that's affect."

(I am waaaay too tired...the affect thing is just killing me for some reason laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif )
CvlSrvnt
QUOTE (CI fan @ Nov 8 2006, 02:59 PM) *
I am looking forward to that step too. He has been "beaten down, depressed, and tired in his pain" - certainly relating to his mother's diagnosis. If her condition worsens when he cannot be with her on Thanksgiving, as the episode description suggests, I believe even Robert would say " Anger is the correct response."


Affect. It's all about the affect.
<giggle>
naydi
QUOTE (CvlSrvnt @ Nov 8 2006, 07:28 PM) *
Clearing your desk is what you do when you resign from a job. Goren dumped his desk like a drill sergeant. "Now that's affect."

(I am waaaay too tired...the affect thing is just killing me for some reason laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif )



You got yourself with that one, didn't you?

Ended up cacklin' hard and loud like a fool, with people around you thinking that you fiiiinally went over? Couldn't stop either cuz the more you tried, the more you added to the line making it into a whooole other story in your head that you couldn't even begin to explain to somebody else, least not the people you're working with?

I know, girl.... I've been there.... More than a few times, actually... You know what's scary, though? (i should say for them, not me) Is that there's been more than one occasion where I've just had to grab and drag somebody along on that little happy trip with me... Doesn't matter if they showed up in the middle... Let me tell ya; making people put their heads in their hands, rolling it back and forth nervously wondering just what in the h'll is wrong with them because they completely and fully understand everything your a** just said and WHYYYY it's funny? T'aint nothing like it!!! Best thing is: They will, in spite of themselves, somehow, in some way thank you for that **** later! 'telling you: T'aint nothing like the feeling of stupid-a** joy....

na
DonnaLucy
Someone suggested on another site that the desk scene is a result of Ross directing Goren to "clear off his desk" before leaving. Hence, the violent yet muted reaction. Would Ross be so heartless as to make Bobby finish paperwork before he could return to his Mom's bedside for Thanksgiving? It remains to be "scene"!!!!!
CI fan
QUOTE (CvlSrvnt @ Nov 8 2006, 07:26 PM) *
Affect. It's all about the affect.
<giggle>



That's right! And I should have said Anger would be the "appropriate response". That's what BG would say.

wink.gif
Vincent-Kathryn_fan
Hey all, I was over on the reelvincent site and someone had posted a siting of Vincent on November 17th. Apparently he filming a scene on a street corner near Madison Square Garden and this person snapped a picture of him with a camera phone. All I can say is he looks REALLY GOOD! I must admit I was a little nervous with this last episode that he wasn't doing to well in real life but in this picture he was wearing a suit that FIT and his hair looked great and he was smiling and he just looks AMAZING! Anyway, here is the picture:

If anyone can't see it just go to the reel Vincent D'Onofrio website, and click on filming LO:CI and then click on full story or full post or whatever to see the picture. Hope you all Love this pic as much as me! Goren is TRULY back in this picture! :-) YAY.
naydi
QUOTE (Vincent-Kathryn fan @ Nov 18 2006, 04:43 PM) *
.... I must admit I was a little nervous with this last episode that he wasn't doing to well in real life but in this picture he was wearing a suit that FIT ....


And, hopefully, for whatever they're shooting, they've gotten him a tie that's the right length, too?? Was wondering just what the h'll was going on in the wardrobe dept in the last few "suited" episodes!!
L&Owhore
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 18 2006, 01:49 PM) *
And, hopefully, for whatever they're shooting, they've gotten him a tie that's the right length, too?? Was wondering just what the h'll was going on in the wardrobe dept in the last few "suited" episodes!!

Anyone know if the wardrobe department for CI is the same as the department for original recipe? 'Cause original recipe's wardrobe department is on crack. (See the new female detective who looks like she is dressed by a man, and I'm not talking about a gay man either. She wears these butch weird jackets that don't look at all feminine and then shirts that barely cover her breasts. I call it the split personality outfits. She needs to wear shirts that cover her more and more feminine jackets so she can still be sexy but also look like she is a real cop (you know, make her look like Eames, Benson and heck even Wheeler dresses more realistically!!)).

Anywho, I'm glad to see Vincent looking so well! Now we know for sure that what we have been seeing on Tuesday nights is just very very good acting!
naydi
QUOTE (ADAMaloney @ Nov 18 2006, 06:04 PM) *
Anyone know if the wardrobe department for CI is the same as the department for original recipe? 'Cause original recipe's wardrobe department is on crack.


Aah - sh't!!!! You know, I just had to stop myself from typing the instinctive: 'CRACKED ME UP!!!' that popped in my head?? thatclose to the dreaded ghey pun, I was!!! blink.gif

Anywho - Less embarassingly: I just killed my throat after reading that one.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Not_saying
QUOTE (naydi @ Nov 18 2006, 06:10 PM) *
Aah - sh't!!!! You know, I just had to stop myself from typing the instinctive: 'CRACKED ME UP!!!' that popped in my head?? thatclose to the dreaded ghey pun, I was!!! blink.gif

Anywho - Less embarassingly: I just killed my throat after reading that one.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



as long as he do'nt do his scenes in a chicken suit and talk like a chicken i'm ok with baggy suits and toolong a tie which by the way i have noticed in the show he will try at ever chance he gets to remove or losen so i do'nt think he likes wearing ties .I even think he / goran could pull off being in reg blue jeans and a nice shirt while working.
alliehalliwell
People fantasize about other people regardless whether or not they're famous. It's not an intrusion.

However, if you stalked him that IS an intrusion. DO NOT DO THIS!!!!! Paparazzis - are you listening?

With that said, I admire VDO as an actor, he's very talented and in interviews he amuses me, and I find him incredibly hot. But I think, I 'love' Goren. Meaning, infatuated because...well, he's NOT real!

:0) I wonder if anyone believes Goren is real.

side note - I heard the actress on Days of Our Lives who plays Sami was approached by an old woman and was smacked with a purse because of what SAMI did on the show. she thought Sami was real!
Summa
I think its an great difference if he is an actor or if he is the private person. He just plays an certain role, an in private, he could be an totally different person than he acts.
and i guess he has, as we all, a right for a private life.
but if i would ever meet him, it would bei interesting to see how he is as the person vincent d'onofrio, not as bobb goren or any other character he played.
alliehalliwell
QUOTE (dewes306 @ Oct 26 2006, 02:04 AM) *

I maybe new here but not new posting to boards.
Ofcourse everyone has a right to privacy..but when you become an actor in Hollywood or anywhere you can say goodbye to privacy.Thats why they call them public figures people.


Fantasize all you want..the government doesn't have control over peoples minds yet!! I'll dream about both of them ..Goran and Vincent..how about Vincent playing Goran..works for me!!


Cue long ramble....

I think there's a limit. Seeing an actor in public, asking for his autograph is alright. BUT don't get upset if he's busy or is in a foul mood. They ARE human after all. I hate when people get ****** because actors don't give them their undivided attention.

Imagine...you're sitting with your husband, daughter and her boyfriend and they tell you "mom, dad, we're getting married!" Your face lights up and you have several flashes of your daughter in pigtails and taking her first walks. ...then a woman runs up, grabs your napkin and shouts to her friends. "I have her serviette! SHE touched this! Woohoo!" Then runs off. :0)

I'm 100% against Paparazzis. I think they're idiots and unless they're desperate and can't get work even as a waiter/pizza delivery man, etc., then they have no right to say "I need this job". Of course they may need the money but not that job in particular. Paparazzis are horrible...or should i say they act horrible? It's stalking pure and simple.

The worst is when the Paparazzis try taking pictures of celebrity's babies. I remember an interview with Ewan Mcgregor who stated something like "I'm alright with my picture being taken, but when a Paparazzi tries to take pictures of my kids I may just punch them in the face because they're taking away a parent's right to protect their children." I totally agree, because would you really want pictures of your baby out there for everyone to see considering all the pervs out there?

If a fan went around and followed an actor around all day they'd be arrested, but Paparazzis don't....and i think that anyone buying into magazines that use pictures Paparazzis take should seriously consider putting the magazine down and backing away.

...yeah... that's all i wanted to say.
dewes306
QUOTE (alliehalliwell @ Nov 27 2006, 03:40 PM) *
Cue long ramble....

I think there's a limit. Seeing an actor in public, asking for his autograph is alright. BUT don't get upset if he's busy or is in a foul mood. They ARE human after all. I hate when people get ****** because actors don't give them their undivided attention.

Imagine...you're sitting with your husband, daughter and her boyfriend and they tell you "mom, dad, we're getting married!" Your face lights up and you have several flashes of your daughter in pigtails and taking her first walks. ...then a woman runs up, grabs your napkin and shouts to her friends. "I have her serviette! SHE touched this! Woohoo!" Then runs off. :0)

I'm 100% against Paparazzis. I think they're idiots and unless they're desperate and can't get work even as a waiter/pizza delivery man, etc., then they have no right to say "I need this job". Of course they may need the money but not that job in particular. Paparazzis are horrible...or should i say they act horrible? It's stalking pure and simple.

The worst is when the Paparazzis try taking pictures of celebrity's babies. I remember an interview with Ewan Mcgregor who stated something like "I'm alright with my picture being taken, but when a Paparazzi tries to take pictures of my kids I may just punch them in the face because they're taking away a parent's right to protect their children." I totally agree, because would you really want pictures of your baby out there for everyone to see considering all the pervs out there?

If a fan went around and followed an actor around all day they'd be arrested, but Paparazzis don't....and i think that anyone buying into magazines that use pictures Paparazzis take should seriously consider putting the magazine down and backing away.

...yeah... that's all i wanted to say.



There is a difference between being a stalker and just being a fan of a person. I myself have met many actors and many people in music and honestly I don't consider them anything more than just a person with a job. They have to work for their money, they go to the bathroom just like everyone else. The difference is you can see them once a week on tv or go sit in a smelly theatre for 6 bucks and see them on the big screen. Sure it is fun and entertainment but to bother anyone when it is not needed is just wrong. I hated the paparazzi after Princess Diana died and thought that was just way too much.
But the people have remember it is part of the job and paparazzi will always be there and there is just nothing anyone can do about it.
Not_saying
QUOTE (dewes306 @ Nov 27 2006, 05:34 PM) *
There is a difference between being a stalker and just being a fan of a person. I myself have met many actors and many people in music and honestly I don't consider them anything more than just a person with a job. They have to work for their money, they go to the bathroom just like everyone else. The difference is you can see them once a week on tv or go sit in a smelly theatre for 6 bucks and see them on the big screen. Sure it is fun and entertainment but to bother anyone when it is not needed is just wrong. I hated the paparazzi after Princess Diana died and thought that was just way too much.
But the people have remember it is part of the job and paparazzi will always be there and there is just nothing anyone can do about it.



every single actress and actor that we adore have bad days flaws ect like the rest of us tongue.gif

and I agree I dislike the paparazzi they should actually be treated as stalkers cus in essence they are they are endangering the lives of the ppl they are trying to snap pictures of and the lives of they're wives , children mad.gif


and it does make me sick when i think of diana that they will go that far for a pix mad.gif


yes it''s just they're joby nine to five granted alil longer than that
and i would'nt be peeved if i met my guy and he was cranky and he did'nt sign an autograph

i personally would'nt and never will stalk my faves I 'd just drool and daydream from afar and let leave'em alone

and yes i agree 100% goran /d'onofrio is down right adorable laugh.gif

but i still would'nt stalk him wink.gif
vicicaduceus
Hi All!

I think some very valid points have come up, and would like to add a little something. The networks that these actors work for don't dissuade fandom since people's fantasies about characters/actors certainly keep them watching. And we all know that ratings=money. In some ways this perpetuates situations that cross the line, but for the average viewer with both feet in reality, I think that there is no harm. There is little difference in having a crush on a character or actor than a crush on a coworker that you don't really know that well or someone you just met. In fact, people may have to be more impulsive in real life, as in to ask someone who they barely know on a date, than being attracted to someone you see for an hour per week. (even if it is a fictional character on tv) I suppose it gives a false sense of intimacy, but then again people who have lived together for years may still be surprised by that person's actions so....ok enough playing devil's advocate.
Cheers and goodnight!
GOODNYOU
I love this show, especially Eames and Goren.
One thing that I've always wondered....
Goren has been seen dancing with suspects, hugging victims, hugging his friends (the crazy car guy with the crush on Eames), shaking hands with people. He barely taps Eames on the shoulder. In fact, if he's in close prox. to her, his hands are generally clasped behind his back almost to avoid contact with her. What's up with that?
Seraphina
Isn`t most of it to play the person he`s making the contact with? I doubt he needs to do that to Eames hehe. That`s just the first thing that comes to my mind. Or just general usefulness?

I do remember him "touching" her when she had to pull a gun at this guy (Homo Homini Lupis?) and shot him. He asked her if she was okay and stuff, so it was useful then. So I guess he does it when it`s useful?

I`m leaving it at this since I`m not sure I`m making sense now laugh.gif.
CvlSrvnt
Kind of on a tangent, has anyone noticed that he almost never cuffs anybody? He takes the arm behind the back, but then a uni always steps in with the cuffs. "See Me" is a notable exception - he full-on cuffs the doc prior to the interrogation.
musicwench
My guess would be that Eames is his partner and he probably doesn't want even the hint of any fraternization there. That's why he probably never calls her Alex, even though she calls him Bobby. I think it's his way of keeping a distance so there is no misinterpretation by anyone who might notice.

Never noticed that he does that before you mentioned it but off the top of my head I'd guess that would be what he's doing.
Vincent-Kathryn_fan
Goren does touch Eames occasionally to get her attention. I can remember some times where he touches her elbow or something if she is reading cause he wants her to look at something. Also, don't forget the episode where they were pretending to be a couple shopping for shoes, they walked in arm-in-arm. Also, I don't think there really is a need for him to touch her very often and it might even seem a little weird to see him doing it. Wouldn't you think it weird if he took her hand in his or gave her a hug, or put his arm around her or something? I could see if she were really really, REALLY upset......like HYSTERICAL he might grab her arm or something in a kind/loving way but it's really not part of their relationship to touch each other. lol. Also, I remember Stephanie March (Alex from SVU) said that they weren't allowed to touch each other on the Law and Order shows. It just isn't something they do and apparently Stephanie wasn't even supposed to smile on the show. Obviously that's not the case on CI cause Goren and Eames joke around with each other all the time and I've seen both of them smile!
musicwench
QUOTE (Vincent-Kathryn fan @ Nov 29 2006, 02:24 AM) *
Also, I don't think there really is a need for him to touch her very often and it might even seem a little weird to see him doing it. Wouldn't you think it weird if he took her hand in his or gave her a hug, or put his arm around her or something? I could see if she were really really, REALLY upset......like HYSTERICAL he might grab her arm or something in a kind/loving way but it's really not part of their relationship to touch each other. lol. Also, I remember Stephanie March (Alex from SVU) said that they weren't allowed to touch each other on the Law and Order shows. It just isn't something they do and apparently Stephanie wasn't even supposed to smile on the show. Obviously that's not the case on CI cause Goren and Eames joke around with each other all the time and I've seen both of them smile!

It would freak me out if they hugged. LOL And you're right, they don't need to be touching each other unless they're pretending to be husband and wife or something.
musicwench
Personally I am a fan of Vincent D'Onofrio but generally the "isn't he gorgeous" thing doesn't interest me. I admire his talent and never actually thought of him as sexy so it's kind of funny. Guess because I saw him as Bobby Goren before I saw him in anything else or something.

In any case, I see no reason why people who want to drool over him and can't do just that. It might be embarrassing but he probably doesn't read these threads anyway so who does it hurt?
Not_saying
QUOTE (musicwench @ Nov 29 2006, 11:16 AM) *
Personally I am a fan of Vincent D'Onofrio but generally the "isn't he gorgeous" thing doesn't interest me. I admire his talent and never actually thought of him as sexy so it's kind of funny. Guess because I saw him as Bobby Goren before I saw him in anything else or something.

In any case, I see no reason why people who want to drool over him and can't do just that. It might be embarrassing but he probably doesn't read these threads anyway so who does it hurt?



I agree
CIlover99
tongue.gif YES I LOVE VINCENT, AND EVERYONE OVER LOOKS HIM!! BY EVERYONE, I MEAN TV GUIDE, AWARDS, BEST LOOKING MEN, ETC!!! mad.gif IT SEEMS THEY DO NOT WANT TO KNOW HE EXISTS!! dry.gif HE HAS IT ALL, LOOKS,GREAT TALENT, CHARM, THE WORKS! WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE HIM A BREAK???///
Vincent-Kathryn_fan
Hey all, I wasn't able to be home to watch the Christmas tree lighting show on TV but I recorded it and I'm watching it now. I JUST saw a man in the audience who looked A LOT like Vincent and I was wondering if anyone saw him/knew if it was him or not? It was during Martina McBride singing and they show the audience listening to her and they showed a man, a VERY tall and broad shouldered man with hair, eyes, smile, face shape just like Vincent. The only thing is that this guy looked like Vincent did in earlier seasons of CI. He did not look the way he looks now but I don't know if they've been making him look that way or not. Anyway, he was standing behind a dark haired woman and I think he was with her because he was standing very close to her. If anyone else recorded it maybe you could check it out and see what you think?
Not_saying
QUOTE (Vincent-Kathryn fan @ Nov 30 2006, 03:23 PM) *
Hey all, I wasn't able to be home to watch the Christmas tree lighting show on TV but I recorded it and I'm watching it now. I JUST saw a man in the audience who looked A LOT like Vincent and I was wondering if anyone saw him/knew if it was him or not? It was during Martina McBride singing and they show the audience listening to her and they showed a man, a VERY tall and broad shouldered man with hair, eyes, smile, face shape just like Vincent. The only thing is that this guy looked like Vincent did in earlier seasons of CI. He did not look the way he looks now but I don't know if they've been making him look that way or not. Anyway, he was standing behind a dark haired woman and I think he was with her because he was standing very close to her. If anyone else recorded it maybe you could check it out and see what you think?

I watched but i do'nt remeber seeing him in the crowd
naydi
He's one of NBC's biggest stars. I'm not seeing him just slip into the crowd of an NBC event without NBC capitalizing on it in some way, shape, or form. If he wasn't sucessfully recruited to participate in the schmaltz, I'm sure his name would have been mentioned or displayed onscreen if he was caught on camera either then or in an intentional repeat shot after he was noticed.
CvlSrvnt
QUOTE
He's one of NBC's biggest stars.

Has anybody told NBC that?
naydi
HAAAAA!!!

*snort*
Not_saying
QUOTE (naydi @ Dec 1 2006, 11:12 AM) *
HAAAAA!!!

*snort*


Naydi that's true they would have flashed his name on screen lol


I just hope he do 'nt flash us lol
jordanriver
Hello. I've been at the NBC boards for exactly a week. Boy, feels like I've been here forever. smile.gif

As most of you know, I got to meet VDO and KE last week at the DVD signing. If you got a chance to read my story, you'll know that I went completely dumb dumb when my chance to speak to Vincent finally came. huh.gif <<<<==== that was me rolleyes.gif laugh.gif As a result, I was determined to make sure this wasn't the last time I met the two of them, so I could have a little more composure and a little less nervousness. unsure.gif

Then I heard that someone sent Kathryn some cards through the address provided by NBC, and she actually received them!! So I figured, why wait until the next time (which I do believe will come smile.gif ) to tell Vincent how much he's influenced me? ohmy.gif <<<=== A "Eureka!" face...


So I've been working on a prose piece to send along with my letter of gratitude. I don't know when I'll actually be able to send it, but hopefully it will be before I return to school for spring semester (January 15th). Once I'm done with my first drafts (of both the prose piece and the letter) I'll post them to see what you guys think. I'd appreciate constructive crits from anyone who's decent at them. smile.gif
naydi
Hey, as a way of jogging his memory - you could always try to find a way to comedically bring up your unfortunately(for us!!) unavoidable lack of back up from the rest of the fantastic four... wink.gif
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