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warrior_atama
Lots of people loved the Redhead waitress,.....so sad, her life. Add Hiro to the mix, and for some reason, they are a very very lovable couple. So, I got pretty depressed to see the last scene of her, about to kiss Hiro, and then .........you know what happened........

so please bring back the Redhead! She will be my only reason (her lovestory with Hiro) to continue watching the show! So cute together!

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synch
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 2 2007, 10:11 PM) *
so please bring back the Redhead! She will be my only reason (her lovestory with Hiro) to continue watching the show! So cute together!

Only reason?
Please, pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease, tell me you're joking.
Charlie, as much as most of us loved her, is gone. She's not coming back.
deas-nuts
Seriously? So you stopped watching the show half way through the season? WOW.
Knight_Phobia
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Sep 2 2007, 08:47 PM) *
Seriously? So you stopped watching the show half way through the season? WOW.


Poor guy.

Sadly, Charlie was doomed from the get go. Those blod clots are a bitsizzlech
HordakAlpha
Trust me, there are other reasons to quit watching the show, but since they are so minute I've decided to keep watching the show, just focusing on the character's I like.


Also, Charlie was a cutie but she is dead. That irony ending for Hiro having traveled into the past to save her and she was dying anyway was a slap in the face. Heaven forbid the one great hero of the show saves the girl. Good Grief!! At least he saved Ando and the world from Sylar. ;P
synch
QUOTE (HordakAlpha @ Sep 2 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Trust me, there are other reasons to quit watching the show, but since they are so minute I've That irony ending for Hiro having traveled into the past to save her and she was dying anyway was a slap in the face. Heaven forbid the one great hero of the show saves the girl.


Not to be rude, but do you read? It's a standard, and powerful, plot device- especially prevalent in Heroic Tragedy.
Even Hiro recognized it. He calls Charlie his Gwen Stacy- a comment that comics fans recognize from Spiderman. The great love that, even with all his power, he was unable to save.
Had he gone back in time and saved her it would have been a great moment- but not as powerful or motivating.
Anything but a slap in the face.
HordakAlpha
Even so, it still almost made his mission in the past practically pointless. Sure, he got to know Charlie very well for a period of time, but still, it sort of sucks for him. Hiro is the man, and I would be more than happy for good fortune to shine upon the break out "Hero" of the show since he, even though being a geek, is the example of what a real hero is. Basically goes out and protects the innocent while putting himself in harm's way for the greater good.

The only other "hero" on the show I see having done that is Nathan, who flew his about to explode brother a safe distance into the stratosphere knowing full well he could get himself killed in the process.
synch
QUOTE (HordakAlpha @ Sep 2 2007, 11:45 PM) *
Even so, it still almost made his mission in the past practically pointless.


No more pointless than Luke Skywalker attempting to save Darth Vader. In both cases, they won the war but lost the battle. (Charlie even said something along the same lines that Vader did. Hiro commented that the entire reason he went back was to save her, and she said that he had.)
tina07
QUOTE (HordakAlpha @ Sep 2 2007, 11:45 PM) *
Even so, it still almost made his mission in the past practically pointless.


From what I understand that was the point of the Charlie plotline. It set boundaries to Hiro's power and showed its limitations. They were trying to show that it wasn't easy to fix everything by hopping back into the past and making it all better. It was probably the first in a series of lessons Hiro learned along the way.

I also agree with Synch's post in that things may not have gone the way as hoped or expected, but it does not mean nothing was accomplished.
psychopathicroc
I think it was more to show his mental and emotional growth and maturity as a person and how that affected his confidence in his abilities.

Hiro already knows not to mess with time travel much because of rifts and paradox; he's a comic book fan, remember? His power isn't limited, his own mind and personality is what keeps him and his power in check and under control. Sylar with time travel would destroy the universe. Hiro is quite mindful of what tampering with the past can do and respects that in the upmost. He doesn't want to take the chance.. unless he really feels its necessary.. to save Ando and to save Charlie.
warrior_atama
QUOTE (psychopathicroc @ Sep 3 2007, 12:44 AM) *
I think it was more to show his mental and emotional growth and maturity as a person and how that affected his confidence in his abilities.

Hiro already knows not to mess with time travel much because of rifts and paradox; he's a comic book fan, remember? His power isn't limited, his own mind and personality is what keeps him and his power in check and under control. Sylar with time travel would destroy the universe. Hiro is quite mindful of what tampering with the past can do and respects that in the upmost. He doesn't want to take the chance.. unless he really feels its necessary.. to save Ando and to save Charlie.

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I know what you guys all are saying. But, I hope out hope that Hiro will bring her back! Chemistry between a girl and boy is hard to find, and trust me, for some reason, Hiro and Charlie had all the chemistry in the world. No one can replace her. And yes, I sorta lost interest after not seeing her after the "almost kiss" last scene. I thought maybe they would bring her back, thru Hiro's heroics.

So, since I didn't get enough of this girl, I went out and rented "Epic Movie" , but she was not the same in that movie. Please bring her back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
synch
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 3 2007, 03:26 AM) *
Please bring her back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is not gonna happen.
Charlie's dead. Her death served a purpose, but it was inevitable. Shortly after she died (and after Six Months Ago aired) Kring admitted that she was a done deal, never to be brought back except possibly in memory.

Instead, there's a princess that has a good chance of being Hiro's new love interest.
knightday
It should also be said that it is a good thing that Hiro couldn't save Charlie. Don't get me wrong, I really liked her, but if Hiro is always able to undo whatever he wants then the show is basically pointless because there would be zero conflict and nothing to worry about.
Ruka
Even If you beg to bring here in Boards, she ain't just gonna raise from the dead just to let a single person or maybe a few more continue watching Heroes.
And If she ever came back, that'd actually might be pretty disappointing and crazy even If there was someone out there with powers to bring the dead back, still crazy..

I have to admit, I didn't like it when Charlie died, but that didn't stop me from watching Heroes.
A lot of people get disappointed If they're Favorite Character dies, but it's much of a reason to stop watching Heroes or other series'.

And as Synch said, Charlie's Death is inevitable. She was still going to die before Hiro even with or without Sylar killing her.
tina07
QUOTE (psychopathicroc @ Sep 3 2007, 12:44 AM) *
I think it was more to show his mental and emotional growth and maturity as a person and how that affected his confidence in his abilities.


That is mostly what I was getting at. We got to see how much emotion impacts a characters power and how that self confidence affects a person's choices. Also, we learned that Hiro could not fix everything easily. Those are the 'limits and boundaries' I was referring to.

There was talk about a Hiro/Charlie book to be made awhile back. I don't know if anything ever came from it however.
kryptopyro13
Hiro can go back now, get Charlie, and teleport her to Linderman before he dies, beg him to heal her, and yay!

>_>
LindermansDaughter
That's a little far-fetched, Krypto. Mostly because Hiro didn't know Linderman had an ability.
HordakAlpha
Charlie is dead. Case Closed.
warrior_atama
QUOTE (LindermansDaughter @ Sep 3 2007, 03:40 PM) *
That's a little far-fetched, Krypto. Mostly because Hiro didn't know Linderman had an ability.


THERE IS always a way to bring her back! Hiro can develop his powers and become stronger, go back in time again, and find out what's the story with the assasin. Remember, Charlie didn't die of brain tumor. Someone shot her, remember? So, I believe there is a big story there yet to be told, about why that assasin killed her.

ANyways, if they try to pair Hiro with another girl, I will not accept her. Charlie was his one and only true love! Charlie was perfect for Hiro! She's adorable, not stuck up. She's cute, not "in your face" sexy attractive, she walks nice, not like a bratty cat walk model, she's a genius, learning Japanese in minutes, unlike bunch of dumb girls who only care about looks, .......

ok, I guess I wish I can meet my Charlie in real life, but since that kind of Charlie is hard to find in real life, I guess I like to live vicariously thru this show.

BRING HER BACK PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
abomination
Can you say Potential Stalker? Not to be rude but this show is much bigger than Hiro's love life. Charlie was a cute girl but she's gone. Not you, me, or linderman can bring her back.
Keldon_Alleyne
Charlie was a really nice character and I wish we could have seen more of her, but that was obviously their intention. They want you to build a relationship with that character otherwise her death would have been meaningless and Hiro's feelings for her wouldn't have been important in any way.
SylarsLover
Charlie was great but the writers were trying to show us that even with Hiro's powers, he still is bound by reality. With or without Sylar Charlie was going to die, she even told Hiro in "Six Months Ago" that she had decided to give up before he came into her life. He did save her-in a way.
tina07
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 3 2007, 03:53 PM) *
THERE IS always a way to bring her back! Hiro can develop his powers and become stronger, go back in time again, and find out what's the story with the assasin. Remember, Charlie didn't die of brain tumor. Someone shot her, remember? So, I believe there is a big story there yet to be told, about why that assasin killed her.


Shot by an assassin? She was killed by Sylar both before and after Hiro went back to save her.
synch
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 3 2007, 03:53 PM) *
Remember, Charlie didn't die of brain tumor. Someone shot her, remember?


I'm starting to think that it was impossible for you to show less interest in the show after Charlie's death, since it appears you had only a mild interest in it originally.

Charlie was not SHOT. She was Sylar'd
warrior_atama
someone mocked me in my other post, and the moderator locked that message, but all I'm trying to say is:

Charlie was so cute and adorable
She and Hiro are the best couple in Sci-Fi history
Chemistry is hard to find between boy and girl, and Hiro and Charlie are made for each other
Lots of fans feel just as I do about this, just search for them on Youtube

Charlie was a hero too. Her power was in her brain, like she's a genius or something, and I think she was targeted for death because of that,

I think they can bring her back, when Hiro develops his powers more
synch
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 4 2007, 09:14 PM) *
someone mocked me in my other post, and the moderator locked that message, but all I'm trying to say is:

Charlie was so cute and adorable
She and Hiro are the best couple in Sci-Fi history
Chemistry is hard to find between boy and girl, and Hiro and Charlie are made for each other
Lots of fans feel just as I do about this, just search for them on Youtube

Charlie was a hero too. Her power was in her brain, like she's a genius or something, and I think she was targeted for death because of that,

I think they can bring her back, when Hiro develops his powers more

Actually, it was I who "mocked" you. All I really did was point out that, despite your comments, you were apparently distinctly unfamiliar with the character, since you claimed she had been shot.
In reality, she had been Sylar'd- her brain had been removed by Sylar due to her Memory.
Maniacal
I loved the characters of Charlie, Eden, and Dale...

Thats what I like about this show. In just a few scenes, you get a sense of a person, through acting, writing, and direction.

To bring them back would be an insult to what they represented on the show, vulnerability and mortality that everyone faces.

That being said, Of all characters I would like to see return, is Simone... something about her story lacks closure. I hated her at first... now that she is dead... I want her back.
SylarIsMyHero
QUOTE
someone mocked me in my other post, and the moderator locked that message, but all I'm trying to say is:


This thread was locked the first time around for a reason. It's a pointless ramble and the fact that you're trying to start it up again is clearly going against what the mods wanted. You're obsessed with Charlie. We get it. We got it the first time around, end of story. Please let this waste of space drift away.
synch
QUOTE (Maniacal @ Sep 4 2007, 11:15 PM) *
That being said, Of all characters I would like to see return, is Simone... something about her story lacks closure. I hated her at first... now that she is dead... I want her back.


I admit, I always liked her. (And not just because she's what I would definitely call easy on the eyes.)
But, I think her character primarily existed to introduce Peter and Isaac, and to keep them from being "chummy." Once that happened, she'd fulfilled her purpose.

An further block to her return is the fact that she's already in a new show this upcoming season. (I think on Fox.)



Edit:
And, in explanation of my initial post in this thread:
The fact that I mocked you was quite clearly not the reason the thread was locked- as I never received so much as a mildly scolding message from the mods.
warrior_atama
QUOTE (SylarIsMyHero @ Sep 4 2007, 11:27 PM) *
This thread was locked the first time around for a reason. It's a pointless ramble and the fact that you're trying to start it up again is clearly going against what the mods wanted.

if that's how you treat fans of the show, by censoring them because you disagree with them, then forget you. What are you , the producer of the show or something?

Whatever, she looked like she got shot. Then Hiro went back in time to try to save her. When he was about to kiss her........he then traveled in time again unwillingly.

However, he did alter the past, and who knows, Charlie might've taken Hiro's advice and not work at the diner anymore, and she can still be alive because of that.

Thus, bringing Charlie back is not far fetched.
synch
This is the last time I will waste my time in this pointless thread.

Charlie's DEAD. It's CANON. Sylar got her, it had nothing to do with her getting Shot. (What show were you watching, anyway? Hiro even SAID that Sylar got her, and that was the reason he wanted to save her.)
He didn't alter the past- Sylar STILL has her ability (unless he lost them in the finale. Unlikely.) He USED her ability AFTER Hiro traveled back and forth in time.


And it has nothing to do with censorship. It was closed due to the simple fact that it was a pointless debate. Nothing new could be discovered. It was a single fan commenting that they were mad over a character's death- a fan who hadn't made it onto the boards until several MONTHS after this particular death occurred.
SylarIsMyHero
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 5 2007, 12:53 AM) *
if that's how you treat fans of the show, by censoring them because you disagree with them, then forget you. What are you , the producer of the show or something?


I'm not a mod, nor do I remotely care if our opinions are different. Except that our opinions AREN'T different. I liked Charlie too...however, your post was just a stalkerish, stubborn rant about how she's the only interesting part of the show...and clearly if you think she got shot, you weren't watching the show at all. It was not only clearly shown that Sylar killed her, it was also discussed many times over in subsequent episodes.

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However, he did alter the past, and who knows, Charlie might've taken Hiro's advice and not work at the diner anymore, and she can still be alive because of that.

Thus, bringing Charlie back is not far fetched.


It is farfetched because Charlie still died. In the future/reality they ended up in, Charlie was dead. Hiro wasn't able to save her (he even says exactly those words). Since you didn't really bother to watch, naturally you missed everything related to this matter. Rewatch the show before trying to start a debate.

And like Synch, I'm not wasting any more time on this pointless thread...
Azaelia
QUOTE (warrior_atama @ Sep 5 2007, 12:53 AM) *
if that's how you treat fans of the show, by censoring them because you disagree with them, then forget you. What are you , the producer of the show or something?

Whatever, she looked like she got shot.


You really need to be careful when posting on a messageboard if:

1. You think board rules don't apply to you.

2. You have a REALLY vague notion of the entire plot of the show.

Sorry you feel oppressed, but acting obnoxious isn't exactly helping your case.
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