Nikkijoinedthegym
Sep 11 2007, 11:39 PM
I noticed on the show that several (maybe all) of the contestants have these grey bands strapped to their upper arm and it looks like it is some kind of monitor...can anyone tell me what it is? I didn't see any type of cords attached to it, but I just wasn't sure what it was or if it had anything to do with weight loss.
Thanks!
Katinka
Sep 12 2007, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (Nikkijoinedthegym @ Sep 11 2007, 11:39 PM)

I noticed on the show that several (maybe all) of the contestants have these grey bands strapped to their upper arm and it looks like it is some kind of monitor...can anyone tell me what it is? I didn't see any type of cords attached to it, but I just wasn't sure what it was or if it had anything to do with weight loss.
Thanks!
It's called the Body Bugg. It calculates amount of calories burned. It is only available at 24 Hour Fitness ... since they are sponsoring this season, everyone on the show is wearing one.
coachkimm
Sep 12 2007, 03:42 AM
They are wearing Body Buggs by Apex. Its a great tool for those of us wanting to lose weight. My only problem with mine is that I'm to lazy to keep track of the food I'm eating. I'm sure I would be much more successful if I can just complete that one task after every meal.
WilloKeaysToo
Sep 12 2007, 05:12 AM
yeah and it costs about $400 PLUS a monthly maintenance fee it is really not worth it IMO
Nikkijoinedthegym
Sep 12 2007, 10:10 AM
I did a little research on the Body Bugg and I would LOVE to have one...they are just too pricey. Thanks for the quick replies!!!
littlenicky2
Sep 12 2007, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (Brenna @ Sep 12 2007, 05:12 AM)

yeah and it costs about $400 PLUS a monthly maintenance fee it is really not worth it IMO
Got to agree with you there. $400 plus a fee......I just about fell out of my chair.
quityourwhining
Sep 12 2007, 10:20 AM
I would bet my life almost every fat person on that show spent far more than $400 last year on junk food they shouldn't have been eating.
Would I pay $400 for something to save my life... absolutely!!! If that little devise added 4 years to my life by helping me lose weight... that's only $100 per year or ~$8 per month. I am worth that much and FAR more.
Think of how many doctor's visits I will get to skip and medications I will never have to take... I am sure that would add up to far more than $400 over a lifetime.
Yeah, $400... that's not bad at all!!!
littlenicky2
Sep 12 2007, 10:38 AM
QUOTE (QuitYourWhining @ Sep 12 2007, 10:20 AM)

I would bet my life almost every fat person on that show spent far more than $400 last year on junk food they shouldn't have been eating.
Would I pay $400 for something to save my life... absolutely!!! If that little devise added 4 years to my life by helping me lose weight... that's only $100 per year or ~$8 per month. I am worth that much and FAR more.
Think of how many doctor's visits I will get to skip and medications I will never have to take... I am sure that would add up to far more than $400 over a lifetime.
Yeah, $400... that's not bad at all!!!
Gimmicks don't work. If they did, then the internet and late night TV would have constant infomercials about them.
quityourwhining
Sep 12 2007, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:38 AM)

Gimmicks don't work. If they did, then the internet and late night TV would have constant infomercials about them.
I have a heart rate monitor I bought off eBay for $35 and LOVE that thing. It counts calories burned and all that good stuff, so I willl just stick with mine.
My point was... if spending $400 was what I needed to become healthy... I am worth every penny of that $400.
ekaren
Sep 12 2007, 11:06 AM
Spend $5 on a pedometer so you can track if you're walking enough and increasing your activity level.
sahmdoolfan
Sep 12 2007, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (QuitYourWhining @ Sep 12 2007, 09:45 AM)

I have a heart rate monitor I bought off eBay for $35 and LOVE that thing. It counts calories burned and all that good stuff, so I willl just stick with mine.
My point was... if spending $400 was what I needed to become healthy... I am worth every penny of that $400.
I hear what you are saying about the cost of health...but $400 for the body bug is a waste of money, when you can get the exact same thing for the price of a heart monitor and a free internet program like sparkpeople or fit day.
It really isn't that great of a thing. Yes it will tell you exactly how many calories you put out.....but in truth it's the ones you put in that are the most important. And you can track them so many ways for free. You can figure out a pretty good estimate of your calories burned using a heart monitor during work outs and calculating your resting metabolic rate.
Defiantly not something I would waste my money on!
crazymompatel
Sep 12 2007, 03:13 PM
I think the BodyBugg is fantastic. I have had mine for 4 months now. I have gone from 26% body fat to 14% body fat. As someone said, it is a gimmic but if that is what it takes to hold you accountable for your health it is worth it. I understand that it is what you put in your mouth that makes the difference. It is just hard to know how much you can eat if you don't know how much you have burned. I kept myself in a 500 calorie deficit and lost 14 lbs. I continue to wear it just to stay on top of things. It is costly but in the long run it is worth it. I not only look better, I feel better!!! I say go for it for anyone considering buying one.
risteel
Sep 12 2007, 05:08 PM
Many of you are funny. I have never registered on any online forum, but I feel compelled to reply to the negative comments about the bodybugg because the misinformation presented in this board could prevent someone from taking advantage of bodybuggs benefits.
First and foremost, I am not employed by, nor an agent of any company owned, operated, or distributed by Apex, Body Media or any company affiliated with the Bodybugg. I am not also not a fitness consultant or trainer, nor employed by any gym or fitness facility. I have nothing to gain financially.
I am replying purely because many I hate seeing people get ripped off by gimmicks and wasting money on quick fixes and rip-off schemes. I also hate seeing people make disparaging comments about something that they know nothing about, especially when the comments could prevent someone from changing their life.
Plain and simple. The bodybugg works. It is not a device. It is a comprehensive calorie management program.
It is the BEST money that I have ever spent towards health and nutrition, and the ONLY program that I have seen whose foundation is built upon modifying behaviors to promote long term weight management (notice that I did not say weight loss- although I assume mostly everyone uses it for that purpose).
My background: I am a 5-9/ 510 male. During college, I was around 165 lbs with a 29- 30 inch waist and 40 inch jacket. I have been athletic and fit my entire life. I have NEVER dieted a day in my life. I always ate relatively well and always worked out at the gym.
Over the years, although I remained fit and continued to work out, I gradually gained weight until my normal weight became approximately 185 188lbs. Now 38, I was far from fat. I had a 33 34 waist and wore a 42- 44 inch jacket. However, I was not as toned, slim, and muscularly defined as I wanted to be. In my eyes, I was bulky.
In order to get into better shape and lose weight, I started to eat better and work out more. Sound familiar? I also modified my workouts by significantly reducing weight training and significantly increasing cardio. IT DID NOT WORK. For months upon months, I worked harder and longer. But my weight did not decrease. Frustrated and believing that I would never lose the weight, I even gave away my old suits and clothing.
In January 07, while attending a business function, I met a personal trainer that was promoting a local gym. He talked to me about the bodybugg. (By the way, I also never used or paid for a trainer during my life- and I didnt purchase his services either.)
I was extremely skeptical. However, as a math major during college, he said one thing to me that made sense. It takes 3500 calories to lose or gain a pound of fat. In order to lose weight, you need to burn 3500 more calories more than you take in. The problem is you may be able to determine how many calories you take in, but YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY CALORIES YOU BURN. EVERY PERSONS CALORIE BURN IS UNIQUE TO THEM. The bodybugg gives you the missing variable in the equation.
It made sense. But I still questioned whether it was a gimmick. I did tons of web research and Better Business searches, etc. I couldnt find enough info to deter me from calling him 2 weeks later and giving it a shot. I told my family and friends that I think that I found the first program that makes sense and should actually help me lose weight. They decided to take a pass and wait to see my results.
I started the bodybugg in January 2007. Since I learned that I could burn just as many calories by washing dishes and clothes, I stopped doing the extensive cardio. I also began weight training again.
Within 3 months, I lost the 20lbs I accumulated over the years. My waist shrank back to 29- 30, and my jacket size is a little over 40 inches. I am now 168lbs, and although the bench press is not a sole indicator of health, I can bench press over 300lbs. My body looks better now than when I was in college. In fact, I had to modify my bodybugg program because I had to make myself STOP losing weight. People kept telling me that I was getting too skinny.
The next part is what I am afraid to put into print. I fear that people will get the wrong impression and believe that they will get the same results with no effort. Weight loss with no discipline and no effort WILL NOT WORK. However, I actually lost the weight working out less than I did before the bodybugg, and eating virtually the same foods. The modifications were so slight that I felt that it was easy.
The difference was that I now knew how my body functioned relative to the foods I ate. I learned that I needed to MOVE more. (heart rate has little to nothing to do with weight loss) More importantly, I knew how much more I had to move. In the past, I would work out for an hour, then get home, sit on the couch, and watch TV. I was not cognizant that although I exercised, I still led a fairly sedentary lifestyle.
Shortly after my success, a coworker also purchased the bodybugg. HE HAD THE SAME RESULTS. My wife (who originally hated that I wore the armband everyday was a cynic and called the whole program stupid- I tried counting calories once using Microsoft Excel) started bodybugg one month ago and has already lost 7.5 pounds. My sister (who had more weight lose) started three weeks ago and has already lost more than 8 pounds. My sister-in-law started her program a little more than a week ago and already lost 3 lbs (although that could just be water weight).
So for those that want to say the bodybugg is a scam and gimmick have never used the bodybugg. It is not an overpriced pedometer or heart rate monitor (I have 2 of those). It is an invaluable tool for weight management. Although I, and everyone else I know who has used the bugg has met success, by no means do I imply that it is effortless. You must modify your behavior.
Although I cannot pay out on the guarantee, I can guarantee that if you follow bodybugg's program YOU WILL LOSE YOUR WEIGHT.
I know this is long, but I hope it was helpful. Now you can do your own research.
littlenicky2
Sep 12 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE (risteel @ Sep 12 2007, 05:08 PM)

Many of you are funny. I have never registered on any online forum, but I feel compelled to reply to the negative comments about the bodybugg because the misinformation presented in this board could prevent someone from taking advantage of bodybuggs benefits.
First and foremost, I am not employed by, nor an agent of any company owned, operated, or distributed by Apex, Body Media or any company affiliated with the Bodybugg. I am not also not a fitness consultant or trainer, nor employed by any gym or fitness facility. I have nothing to gain financially.
I am replying purely because many I hate seeing people get ripped off by gimmicks and wasting money on quick fixes and rip-off schemes. I also hate seeing people make disparaging comments about something that they know nothing about, especially when the comments could prevent someone from changing their life.
Plain and simple. The bodybugg works. It is not a device. It is a comprehensive calorie management program.
It is the BEST money that I have ever spent towards health and nutrition, and the ONLY program that I have seen whose foundation is built upon modifying behaviors to promote long term weight management (notice that I did not say weight loss- although I assume mostly everyone uses it for that purpose).
My background: I am a 5-9”/ 510” male. During college, I was around 165 lbs with a 29- 30 inch waist and 40 inch jacket. I have been athletic and fit my entire life. I have NEVER dieted a day in my life. I always ate relatively well and always worked out at the gym.
Over the years, although I remained fit and continued to work out, I gradually gained weight until my “normal” weight became approximately 185 188lbs. Now 38, I was far from fat. I had a 33” 34” waist and wore a 42- 44 inch jacket. However, I was not as toned, slim, and muscularly defined as I wanted to be. In my eyes, I was “bulky”.
In order to get into “better” shape and lose weight, I started to eat better and work out more. Sound familiar? I also modified my workouts by significantly reducing weight training and significantly increasing cardio. IT DID NOT WORK. For months upon months, I worked harder and longer. But my weight did not decrease. Frustrated and believing that I would never lose the weight, I even gave away my old suits and clothing.
In January 07, while attending a business function, I met a personal trainer that was promoting a local gym. He talked to me about the bodybugg. (By the way, I also never used or paid for a trainer during my life- and I didnt purchase his services either.)
I was extremely skeptical. However, as a math major during college, he said one thing to me that made sense. “It takes 3500 calories to lose or gain a pound of fat. In order to lose weight, you need to burn 3500 more calories more than you take in. The problem is you may be able to determine how many calories you take in, but YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY CALORIES YOU BURN. EVERY PERSONS CALORIE BURN IS UNIQUE TO THEM. The bodybugg gives you the missing variable in the equation.”
It made sense. But I still questioned whether it was a gimmick. I did tons of web research and Better Business searches, etc. I couldnt find enough info to deter me from calling him 2 weeks later and giving it a shot. I told my family and friends that I think that I found the first program that makes sense and should actually help me lose weight. They decided to take a pass and wait to see my results.
I started the bodybugg in January 2007. Since I learned that I could burn just as many calories by washing dishes and clothes, I stopped doing the extensive cardio. I also began weight training again.
Within 3 months, I lost the 20lbs I accumulated over the years. My waist shrank back to 29”- 30”, and my jacket size is a little over 40 inches. I am now 168lbs, and although the bench press is not a sole indicator of health, I can bench press over 300lbs. My body looks better now than when I was in college. In fact, I had to modify my bodybugg program because I had to make myself STOP losing weight. People kept telling me that I was getting too skinny.
The next part is what I am afraid to put into print. I fear that people will get the wrong impression and believe that they will get the same results with no effort. Weight loss with no discipline and no effort WILL NOT WORK. However, I actually lost the weight working out less than I did before the bodybugg, and eating virtually the same foods. The modifications were so slight that I felt that it was “easy”.
The difference was that I now knew how my body functioned relative to the foods I ate. I learned that I needed to MOVE more. (heart rate has little to nothing to do with weight loss) More importantly, I knew how much more I had to move. In the past, I would work out for an hour, then get home, sit on the couch, and watch TV. I was not cognizant that although I exercised, I still led a fairly sedentary lifestyle.
Shortly after my success, a coworker also purchased the bodybugg. HE HAD THE SAME RESULTS. My wife (who originally hated that I wore the armband everyday was a cynic and called the whole program stupid- I tried counting calories once using Microsoft Excel) started bodybugg one month ago and has already lost 7.5 pounds. My sister (who had more weight lose) started three weeks ago and has already lost more than 8 pounds. My sister-in-law started her program a little more than a week ago and already lost 3 lbs (although that could just be water weight).
So for those that want to say the bodybugg is a scam and gimmick have never used the bodybugg. It is not an overpriced pedometer or heart rate monitor (I have 2 of those). It is an invaluable tool for weight management. Although I, and everyone else I know who has used the bugg has met success, by no means do I imply that it is effortless. You must modify your behavior.
Although I cannot pay out on the guarantee, I can guarantee that if you follow bodybugg's program YOU WILL LOSE YOUR WEIGHT.
I know this is long, but I hope it was helpful. Now you can do your own research.
And you say you don't work for the company? You failed to mention HOW it works.
risteel
Sep 13 2007, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:28 PM)

And you say you don't work for the company? You failed to mention HOW it works.
I did not go into detail about how it works because I figured people could review the website (bodybugg.com or even find info at myapex.com) and research the particulars themselves. I guess they can also contact the company and speak with a sales rep. I'm sure that they'll be happy to explain how it works.
The purpose of my email was to show how it worked for me and every person I know who used it. Folks can believe what they wish. It works. It modifies your behavior. It educates you about nutrition, and it provides continual motivation throughout the initial 3 month program. I still wear it because I simply like to see my "numbers" and, truthfully, it is addictive.
I already detailed all of my disclaimers. With all of the fake, lose weight quick, weight loss products in the market, I understand the cynicism. But the bottom line is if you believe a pill is going to get you thin, then you are fooling yourself and wasting your money. The same goes for fad diets. Weight loss is based on a very simple principle; If you eat more than you expend, you will gain weight. If you eat less than what you expend, you will lose weight. But I will bet you a miliion bucks (as if I have it), you have no idea how many calories you burn.
Oh, and all those generic calorie burned approximations based on generic activity and calories burned numbers on treadmills, ellipticals, etc are over inflated crap designed to make the user feel better. When I used the elliptical for 40 minutes, it said I burned over 400 calories. When I downloaded my bodybugg info, I saw that I only burned 220. I know my information. Without the bodybugg, you can only guess yours.
Nevertheless, Believe what you will. It is your life and your weight. My weight loss and weight gain is completely under my control. I can eat freely and enjoy my food without guilt (I went out with my wife tonight and even had a complete slice of turtle cheesecake and two espresso martinis) because I know what I am eating and what I need to do to burn it off.
I wish you the best success in whatever program you decide to employ.
Watercolorz
Sep 13 2007, 12:51 AM
I find it interesting conceptually... I do have friends that if we go to the gym they won't break a sweat and then wonder why they aren't losing weight, they also aren't very good at keeping tabs on what they put in their mouths.
If it really does tell you how many calories you are burning accurately for your body that would be REALLY helpful.
For me I have days that are very sedentary aside from a trip to the gym... and on some of those days I make less than the best choice of food because I am going to the gym.
It would be interesting to have a tool to monitor what my body was actually doing on a metabolic level.
That might be too much accountability... I might have to get real about the fact that I didn't just burn off 1200 calories of carrot cake in 30 minutes... no matter how much I am sweating.
As I said... interesting ~W
photogirltr6
Sep 13 2007, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (risteel @ Sep 12 2007, 05:08 PM)

Many of you are funny. I have never registered on any online forum, but I feel compelled to reply to the negative comments about the bodybugg because the misinformation presented in this board could prevent someone from taking advantage of bodybuggs benefits.
First and foremost, I am not employed by, nor an agent of any company owned, operated, or distributed by Apex, Body Media or any company affiliated with the Bodybugg. I am not also not a fitness consultant or trainer, nor employed by any gym or fitness facility. I have nothing to gain financially.
I am replying purely because many I hate seeing people get ripped off by gimmicks and wasting money on quick fixes and rip-off schemes. I also hate seeing people make disparaging comments about something that they know nothing about, especially when the comments could prevent someone from changing their life.
Plain and simple. The bodybugg works. It is not a device. It is a comprehensive calorie management program.
It is the BEST money that I have ever spent towards health and nutrition, and the ONLY program that I have seen whose foundation is built upon modifying behaviors to promote long term weight management (notice that I did not say weight loss- although I assume mostly everyone uses it for that purpose).
My background: I am a 5-9/ 510 male. During college, I was around 165 lbs with a 29- 30 inch waist and 40 inch jacket. I have been athletic and fit my entire life. I have NEVER dieted a day in my life. I always ate relatively well and always worked out at the gym.
Over the years, although I remained fit and continued to work out, I gradually gained weight until my normal weight became approximately 185 188lbs. Now 38, I was far from fat. I had a 33 34 waist and wore a 42- 44 inch jacket. However, I was not as toned, slim, and muscularly defined as I wanted to be. In my eyes, I was bulky.
In order to get into better shape and lose weight, I started to eat better and work out more. Sound familiar? I also modified my workouts by significantly reducing weight training and significantly increasing cardio. IT DID NOT WORK. For months upon months, I worked harder and longer. But my weight did not decrease. Frustrated and believing that I would never lose the weight, I even gave away my old suits and clothing.
In January 07, while attending a business function, I met a personal trainer that was promoting a local gym. He talked to me about the bodybugg. (By the way, I also never used or paid for a trainer during my life- and I didnt purchase his services either.)
I was extremely skeptical. However, as a math major during college, he said one thing to me that made sense. It takes 3500 calories to lose or gain a pound of fat. In order to lose weight, you need to burn 3500 more calories more than you take in. The problem is you may be able to determine how many calories you take in, but YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY CALORIES YOU BURN. EVERY PERSONS CALORIE BURN IS UNIQUE TO THEM. The bodybugg gives you the missing variable in the equation.
It made sense. But I still questioned whether it was a gimmick. I did tons of web research and Better Business searches, etc. I couldnt find enough info to deter me from calling him 2 weeks later and giving it a shot. I told my family and friends that I think that I found the first program that makes sense and should actually help me lose weight. They decided to take a pass and wait to see my results.
I started the bodybugg in January 2007. Since I learned that I could burn just as many calories by washing dishes and clothes, I stopped doing the extensive cardio. I also began weight training again.
Within 3 months, I lost the 20lbs I accumulated over the years. My waist shrank back to 29- 30, and my jacket size is a little over 40 inches. I am now 168lbs, and although the bench press is not a sole indicator of health, I can bench press over 300lbs. My body looks better now than when I was in college. In fact, I had to modify my bodybugg program because I had to make myself STOP losing weight. People kept telling me that I was getting too skinny.
The next part is what I am afraid to put into print. I fear that people will get the wrong impression and believe that they will get the same results with no effort. Weight loss with no discipline and no effort WILL NOT WORK. However, I actually lost the weight working out less than I did before the bodybugg, and eating virtually the same foods. The modifications were so slight that I felt that it was easy.
The difference was that I now knew how my body functioned relative to the foods I ate. I learned that I needed to MOVE more. (heart rate has little to nothing to do with weight loss) More importantly, I knew how much more I had to move. In the past, I would work out for an hour, then get home, sit on the couch, and watch TV. I was not cognizant that although I exercised, I still led a fairly sedentary lifestyle.
Shortly after my success, a coworker also purchased the bodybugg. HE HAD THE SAME RESULTS. My wife (who originally hated that I wore the armband everyday was a cynic and called the whole program stupid- I tried counting calories once using Microsoft Excel) started bodybugg one month ago and has already lost 7.5 pounds. My sister (who had more weight lose) started three weeks ago and has already lost more than 8 pounds. My sister-in-law started her program a little more than a week ago and already lost 3 lbs (although that could just be water weight).
So for those that want to say the bodybugg is a scam and gimmick have never used the bodybugg. It is not an overpriced pedometer or heart rate monitor (I have 2 of those). It is an invaluable tool for weight management. Although I, and everyone else I know who has used the bugg has met success, by no means do I imply that it is effortless. You must modify your behavior.
Although I cannot pay out on the guarantee, I can guarantee that if you follow bodybugg's program YOU WILL LOSE YOUR WEIGHT.
I know this is long, but I hope it was helpful. Now you can do your own research.
I appreciate your post - it took a lot of time to write it and it's cool to see how well this thing has worked for you. As a psychotherapist I can tell you there is a ton of research that supports biofeedback - controlling what you do with your body based on the feedback given to you by devices or machines. I don't know how accurate the bodybugg is, but if I had an extra $400 I'd try it.
EatLessMoveMore
Sep 20 2007, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Brenna @ Sep 12 2007, 05:12 AM)

yeah and it costs about $400 PLUS a monthly maintenance fee it is really not worth it IMO
How do you know it is not worth it? Have you used it? Like the others stated on here, at what point do you say my health, my family and friends are worth it. If I can drop 30,50,100 lb of weight and decrease my chance of dying from lifestyle-related diseases, is that worth it?
Ignorance is bliss sometimes. Before you form an opinion of something you know nothing about, learn about it first.
Consider that healthcare costs related to obesity:
How much does it cost to treat obesity-related ailments?
The United States spent $75.1 billion last year on medical expenses, such as drugs, doctor visits and hospitalizations, related to obesity, according to a study published this month in the journal Obesity Research (2004)
And $400 dollars is too much money to improve your way of life?
littlenicky2
Sep 21 2007, 12:13 AM
QUOTE
Oh, and all those generic calorie burned approximations based on generic activity and calories burned numbers on treadmills, ellipticals, etc are over inflated crap designed to make the user feel better. When I used the elliptical for 40 minutes, it said I burned over 400 calories. When I downloaded my bodybugg info, I saw that I only burned 220. I know my information. Without the bodybugg, you can only guess yours.
Here is where I have doubts about this machine. You say the calorie counters on the treadmills etc are not accurate BUT you are willing to accept the accuracy of this machine. What makes you so sure the Body Bug is any more accurate than the others? SHOW ME THE PROOF. Otherwise, its just another gimmick.
Morning1
Sep 21 2007, 08:53 AM
thank you for sharing your story about the body bugg, it does make me want to do some research on it- the $400 is the price, but did someone say you had to keep paying monthly? what is that for? and also, i have a horrible time keeping a food diary, i have never been good at that, do you have to do that for the bb?
thanks!!
ekaren
Sep 21 2007, 10:13 AM
I'm not going to regurgitate what's on their web site, but for those interested on taking a couple more clicks for the info, here are the links.
The Science Behind the BodyBugghttp://www.bodybugg.com/science_behind_bodybugg.phpBodyBugg in the Media (includes awards)
http://www.bodybugg.com/in_the_news.php
littlenicky2
Sep 21 2007, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (ekaren @ Sep 21 2007, 10:13 AM)

I'm not going to regurgitate what's on their web site, but for those interested on taking a couple more clicks for the info, here are the links.
The Science Behind the BodyBugghttp://www.bodybugg.com/science_behind_bodybugg.phpBodyBugg in the Media (includes awards)
http://www.bodybugg.com/in_the_news.phpI read it and its just another attempt to fool people with technology. At best it is making an assumption of your caloric burn based on the measurements taken from one limb. I've seen these things come and go. People buy into them, thinking they really work. Remember those ab exercisers that shocked your muscles? They too were based on science and technology. I guess PT Barnum had it right after all.
EatLessMoveMore
Sep 21 2007, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 21 2007, 12:13 AM)

Here is where I have doubts about this machine. You say the calorie counters on the treadmills etc are not accurate BUT you are willing to accept the accuracy of this machine. What makes you so sure the Body Bug is any more accurate than the others? SHOW ME THE PROOF. Otherwise, its just another gimmick.
This is from the FAQ section of the bodybugg website:
Where can I find published research/white papers about bodybugg?
Field Validation of Armband, published in Obesity , April 2007
Evaluation of Armband in Type 2 Diabetics, published in Diabetes Care , January 2005
Validation Study, published in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise , May 2005
Wearability: Why the Upper Arm?
In summary, this is not a gimmick? I understand though that there is a lot of crap out there claiming to reduce weight while eating a box of Twinkies and watching Captain Kangaroo but this device is validated in real, scientific research. Check it out if you are a skeptic.
littlenicky2
Sep 21 2007, 10:59 AM
QUOTE (EatLessMoveMore @ Sep 21 2007, 10:49 AM)

This is from the FAQ section of the bodybugg website:
Where can I find published research/white papers about bodybugg?
Field Validation of Armband, published in Obesity , April 2007
Evaluation of Armband in Type 2 Diabetics, published in Diabetes Care , January 2005
Validation Study, published in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise , May 2005
Wearability: Why the Upper Arm?
In summary, this is not a gimmick? I understand though that there is a lot of crap out there claiming to reduce weight while eating a box of Twinkies and watching Captain Kangaroo but this device is validated in real, scientific research. Check it out if you are a skeptic.
All those gimmicks work IF you follow the directions in fine print and to the letter. Its the fine print that keeps them from getting sued.
CdnBacon
Sep 22 2007, 02:40 AM
Im not agreeing or disagreeing...yes 24 hr fitness sponsors the show, but did you not hear Kim when she said that she can monitor what they have taken in and what they have taken out at home on her computer using the internet - maybe that is a scam....nothing is 100% accurate BUT if it works for someone and they have had success instead of bashing them and telling them how dumb the thing is and how much of a gimmick it is why not just leave it alone.... so you are skeptical, I am too...Im glad that someone shared how skeptical he was but gave it a shot and he had success.......and when someone else mentioned that their life is worth the $400 (mine is too)
If you went for a Dr. appt and he said you have health issues and that you have to watch your calorie intake, your diet, you need to exercise and he knew of a seminar that would help you with information buuuuuuuuut didn't tell you that at this seminar they were handing out BodyBugg's for a 6 month free trial period. And then you were told to come back in 6 months see your results and pay $400 for the Bodybugg would you walk out and say its a gimmick and Im not doing it, or would you imbrace this oppurtunity to become more active and healthly?
Im not sure how much sense that really made. But I hope you understand
As skeptical as I am about the thing, if I had the $400 I would go and get one, only cause it seems like a pretty easy way to do it hahaha and I like takin the easy way.
luv2bake
Sep 22 2007, 03:19 PM
i've wondered too thanks
WilloKeaysToo
Sep 22 2007, 06:58 PM
I'm wondering how many user names the Sponsors PR company can make up to tote their product? Some may fall for the whole "I don't work for the company" But I say Bull-poop!
littlenicky2
Sep 22 2007, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Brenna @ Sep 22 2007, 06:58 PM)

I'm wondering how many user names the Sponsors PR company can make up to tote their product? Some may fall for the whole "I don't work for the company" But I say Bull-poop!
Of course its straight up BS. You can tell when these people sound like walking advertisements for the product. NORMAL people don't sound that way. They know who their target audience is and people are gullable when it comes to gimmicks. "Wear this machine and it will fix everything" or "Modern science has created another marvelous machine that will solve all your problems". You would have thought people would have learned their lessons after the pocket fisherman came out. I can hear the sales guy now...."I'll put a flashing LED on it, charge 400 bucks and tell people its their savior.....stand back as I rake in the money".
Brooke
Sep 22 2007, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 22 2007, 07:46 PM)

Of course its straight up BS. You can tell when these people sound like walking advertisements for the product. NORMAL people don't sound that way. They know who their target audience is and people are gullable when it comes to gimmicks. "Wear this machine and it will fix everything" or "Modern science has created another marvelous machine that will solve all your problems". You would have thought people would have learned their lessons after the pocket fisherman came out. I can hear the sales guy now...."I'll put a flashing LED on it, charge 400 bucks and tell people its their savior.....stand back as I rake in the money".
The thing I don't understand with this, is how it is even supposed to be anybody's savior anyway? Why do we need to know how many calories we burned? Eat right and keep to a sensible calorie count, depending on whether you are losing, gaining, and what works for you. Exercise daily and let the chips fall where they may.
I mean, what is going to change the next day? You are going to increase exercise because you fell short the day before? Well, we should all be doing a sensible amount of exercise each day anyway, without needing to be told.
When I read the posts about our self worth and that we are worth spending $400 plus monthly maintenance, I ask why though? I mean what I would think is that we are worth educating outselves on calorie counts in foods so we have a good understanding of what we are putting in our body, as well as educating ourselves on what a sensible exercise plan is and abiding by it.
I'm just not understanding the benefit of this thing, other than simple curiosity as to how many calories one burned in a day. I think that would get old after a couple days.
littlenicky2
Sep 22 2007, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (BrookeAnn @ Sep 22 2007, 10:02 PM)

The thing I don't understand with this, is how it is even supposed to be anybody's savior anyway? Why do we need to know how many calories we burned? Eat right and keep to a sensible calorie count, depending on whether you are losing, gaining, and what works for you. Exercise daily and let the chips fall where they may.
I mean, what is going to change the next day? You are going to increase exercise because you fell short the day before? Well, we should all be doing a sensible amount of exercise each day anyway, without needing to be told.
When I read the posts about our self worth and that we are worth spending $400 plus monthly maintenance, I ask why though? I mean what I would think is that we are worth educating outselves on calorie counts in foods so we have a good understanding of what we are putting in our body, as well as educating ourselves on what a sensible exercise plan is and abiding by it.
I'm just not understanding the benefit of this thing, other than simple curiosity as to how many calories one burned in a day. I think that would get old after a couple days.
I wouldn't be surprized if Ron Popiel didn't invent the body bugg. My favorite one was the beer machine. I watched the entire infomercial. And who can forget Aluma-Alloy where the guy fixes a cracked engine block with a butane torch and a couple of sticks of Aluma-Alloy.
Brooke
Sep 22 2007, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 22 2007, 09:22 PM)

I wouldn't be surprized if Ron Popiel didn't invent the body bugg. My favorite one was the beer machine. I watched the entire infomercial. And who can forget Aluma-Alloy where the guy fixes a cracked engine block with a butane torch and a couple of sticks of Aluma-Alloy.
I had never heard of the Aluma-Alloy but my husband is laughing along with you. He remembers that!
Yep the beer machine. I remember that!
LOL
Well, considering one time when I was in college I bought one of those "coupon books" where you pay $30 for $300 of coupons but really never even use anything in it.
But, they had a coupon for three sessions at this weight loss "spa" by the campus. They wrap you in cellophane of some sort, from neck to toe. First they put some kind of vaseline type jelly all over you, so you feel good and disgusting. Then the cellophane. Then they make you jump on a trampoline like this for 10-20 minutes.
Well, yeah...I DID lose an inch in my thighs until I drank a glass of water.
Gimmicks...they just don't work or else we all would be using them and we all would be benefitting. Just like those cellulite creams. Well, who would have cellulite if they really worked? We'd be stampeding and killing each other for bottles and holding Walmarts at gunpoint the country over.
CdnBacon
Sep 23 2007, 03:53 AM
You are right why not just eat right and not worry about what we take in and out - but there are some people out there that need to make sure they have the right amount of calories eaten and taken out.
Im no health expert lmao im not even a health nut - I don't even know what the heck calories are (thinking now why am i here? lol)
Id be happy if I could do the whole "portion control" but a fist size of whatever it is im having just doesn't seem like enough.
some things are a total waste of money - and others aren't
maybe the bodybugg is - maybe it isn't....
maybe i need to learn about calories - lol - off to google :-)
Brooke
Sep 23 2007, 01:00 PM
QUOTE (CdnBacon @ Sep 23 2007, 01:53 AM)

You are right why not just eat right and not worry about what we take in and out - but there are some people out there that need to make sure they have the right amount of calories eaten and taken out.
Im no health expert lmao im not even a health nut - I don't even know what the heck calories are (thinking now why am i here? lol)
Id be happy if I could do the whole "portion control" but a fist size of whatever it is im having just doesn't seem like enough.
some things are a total waste of money - and others aren't
maybe the bodybugg is - maybe it isn't....
maybe i need to learn about calories - lol - off to google :-)
No, you misunderstand me. I understand there are plenty of people out there that need to make sure they have the right amount of calories eaten and taken out, but I do not believe you need this contraption to tell you that. That is the lazy way out. Do your research, and get to know your body well enough to see how it responds. Sometimes we need more calories rather than less, and many times (probably most of the time), it depends on the food you are eating. I do not believe a calorie is a calorie, because your body burns different fuel more efficiently than other. You can eat 1600 of junk food and see different results than if you ate 1600 in healthy food, because the healthy food actually has a job in your body. You need that for your body to run efficiently, and to build muscle. All the bench presses in the world aren't going to do anything if you are eating poorly. It is much more than just calories in and calories out. We know that now, so we need to arm ourselves better.
Ya know how they say you can give a man a fish or teach him to fish? It is a similar concept. We don't need tools and gadgets to do what we can do ourselves if we want to take the time and energy to educate ourselves.
Personally I don't see how this thing can be that accurate anyway, considering that we all burn calories differently, depending on our body fat percentage among many other factors. But assuming it has some way of calculating energy (calories) burned regardless, I still say it is best to educate ourselves regarding nutrition and do it the way millions of people are doing it now, and successfully. If it is claiming to read body fat percentage and then go from there, well that can work, but would not be as successful because that is not a reliable way to test body fat, and it is still not taking in other factors.
So we all have to just figure it out loosely anyway. Figure out what works for us and then go with that. Stay strong during plateaus and don't freak out and change things all the time. Let the body figure out what works and not be in such a rush.
koi_girl
Sep 23 2007, 06:04 PM
If the BodyBug works for you, great. I know I don't have $400 to plunk down on something for accountability. What I don't understand is how this is any improvement over the method of keeping a food journal (a la Weight Watchers or body for life...or just a simple notebook to record what you are eating) and exercise. Why spend that kind of money when a school notebook will tell you for free?
I did buy a success journal that had spots for recording exercise and food intake (and space to plan out in advance what you were going to eat and do for exercise). It was about $25 to buy but I could have also just used a plain notebook.
It is a great idea to have a system to be accountable to yourself with, but it doesn't have to be that high tech. Weight watchers points or just a simple calorie guide will work if you want to do calories in, calories out. You can look up how much someone of your height/weight will burn off doing jogging, walking, etc. if that is important to you. Jillian's book has it but I'm sure there are online sites that do as well.
I have to agree that I see the BB as a gimmick. I'd urge people to try the pedometer method first and see if it's something you'd stick to.
showtime
Sep 24 2007, 12:12 AM
QUOTE (Vertigo @ Sep 23 2007, 06:04 PM)

If the BodyBug works for you, great. I know I don't have $400 to plunk down on something for accountability. .... Why spend that kind of money when a school notebook will tell you for free?
...
I have to agree that I see the BB as a gimmick. I'd urge people to try the pedometer method first and see if it's something you'd stick to.
Well said. Yes, it's a little insulting to see the BB advertised as something new and amazing, and for it to cost $400, require a monthly fee, and need to be worn 24 hours (no pun intended) on the arm, touching the skin.
In fact, it's pretty clear that this product is destined instead to be a Big Bomb. It's awkward, expensive, and won't tell you anything a $20 device or method can tell you. It's obvious there was a lot of money put into this device/company/advertising. I really doubt it will sell at all, let alone in the quantities it needs to get anywhere close to recoup the development, marketing, and staff it's consumed already.
Everyone knows what they need to do to lose weight. You can sell gimicks; there's a long, successful history to that. But the BB doesn't make any fantastic claims. It's just a device to measure rather inaccurately, and very awkwardly what you already know.
They've had ads for a while in the gym (24 hour fitness). Everyone ignores them. I've never seen anyone with one, and I don't think anyone wants to be caught wearing one, since it's kind a mark for suckers.
Sorry for being so harsh on the product. I'm sure the original intent was well meaning. And it's gotten this far (i.e., spent this much investor money ...)
Karen88
Sep 24 2007, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (risteel @ Sep 12 2007, 06:08 PM)

(heart rate has little to nothing to do with weight loss)
How can you say that. I have a heart rate monitor. It uses my age, sex, weight, height and heartrate to determine calories burned. Some days the treadmill is harder than others. On those days I notice that my heartrate is higher and the calories burned are also higher. To me this makes since. I'm sweating more. I'm more exhausted when I'm done. Of course when your heartrate is up, you're burning more calories. Your heart rate is one way to represent how much work your body is doing.
Now I take how many calories I burn (during exercise only) and chart it in excel. I also chart my Weight Watcher points. This gives me enough information to graph my actual weight with my expected weight (initial weight - weight lose estimated from calories burned during exercise). The two graphs overlap almost perfectly. It's the biofeedback I need to tweek my points or my exercise. Excel came with my PC and my heartrate monitor was on sale for about $80. If heart rate had little to do with weight lose (as you said), I don't think my graphs would overlap like they do.
n2hlth
Sep 24 2007, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Nikkijoinedthegym @ Sep 11 2007, 11:39 PM)

I noticed on the show that several (maybe all) of the contestants have these grey bands strapped to their upper arm and it looks like it is some kind of monitor...can anyone tell me what it is? I didn't see any type of cords attached to it, but I just wasn't sure what it was or if it had anything to do with weight loss.
Thanks!
You can also buy at www.myapex.com
n2hlth
Sep 24 2007, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:38 AM)

Gimmicks don't work. If they did, then the internet and late night TV would have constant infomercials about them.
Why would 24HR be doing infomercials? They sponsor the Olympics for pete's sake. They gain enough visibility through their clubs and websites.
n2hlth
Sep 24 2007, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:22 PM)

I wouldn't be surprized if Ron Popiel didn't invent the body bugg. My favorite one was the beer machine. I watched the entire infomercial. And who can forget Aluma-Alloy where the guy fixes a cracked engine block with a butane torch and a couple of sticks of Aluma-Alloy.
Hopefully this is my last post. Most people don't have a concept of calories in to calories out and cannot calculate portions correctly. If it was that easy, why would they be fat and overweight? It's education and behavior modification. People stuck in a long history of poor eating need more assistance than a "concept" of watch what you eat and exercise.
A lot of people eat healthy and don't lose weight-they need help! Why is that? They cannot see what they are BURNING (CALORIES OUT) to what they are putting in their mouth (CALORIES IN). I have worked with my Mom since she got the program a year ago. She understand more than ever what is going on with her body, especially since she has a sit down job. She doesn't even log her food anymore, she counts it in her head and relies on the armband to tell her what she is burning everyday and she monitors her intake from there. Before dissing it, you should understand more and perhaps read the testimonials Apex put on their site from ACTUAL USERS. People whose lives were in danger from what they didn't know. God bless the bodybugg. My Mom is healthy and I get to have her around longer because of the education the program gave her.
littlenicky2
Sep 25 2007, 12:18 AM
QUOTE
read the testimonials
Who wrote the testimonials?
showtime
Sep 25 2007, 01:14 AM
QUOTE (littlenicky2 @ Sep 25 2007, 12:18 AM)

Who wrote the testimonials?
People that registered today, and have 3 total posts.
risteel
Sep 25 2007, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (morning_princess @ Sep 21 2007, 08:53 AM)

thank you for sharing your story about the body bugg, it does make me want to do some research on it- the $400 is the price, but did someone say you had to keep paying monthly? what is that for? and also, i have a horrible time keeping a food diary, i have never been good at that, do you have to do that for the bb?
thanks!!
risteel
Sep 25 2007, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (morning_princess @ Sep 21 2007, 08:53 AM)

thank you for sharing your story about the body bugg, it does make me want to do some research on it- the $400 is the price, but did someone say you had to keep paying monthly? what is that for? and also, i have a horrible time keeping a food diary, i have never been good at that, do you have to do that for the bb?
thanks!!
The initial cost of the bodybugg includes the device, 2 fitness coaching sessions, and a 3 month online program. The 3 month program is sufficient to modify your behaviors, attain your short/long term goal, and become more educated about nutrition and your personal caloric expenditure.
Once you have completed the 3 month program, you have the option to subscribe to the online program on a monthly basis. I paid for a 1 year subscription for about $100.
Do not have any fear about the food diary. Before the bugg, I was unable to keep a food diary. But the online diary is extensive, easy to use, and addictive. Best of all, it breaks down the nutritional content of your foods so that you know how much protein, fats, carbs, fiber, etc. youve eaten (you will be amazed how much sodium you consume). This also helps you make better food choices.
For example, before I eat dinner, I download my bugg info (which is one press of a button). The program will tell me how much protein, fiber, etc.. I need to eat to reach my nutritional goals. It will also tell me many calories Ive burned- and how many calories I will burn if I became sedentary for the rest of the day.
If I am short on protein, I will eat foods with more protein. If I am short on fiber, I will eat foods with more fiber. I choose the best foods to reach my nutritional goals, while remaining low in calories (because calories are pivotal towards weight loss).
Photogirltr6 said it best when she referenced the effectiveness of biofeedback. Your feedback is immediate. For whatever scientific reason, the immediate feedback compels you act appropriately. You become so focused on what your body is doing, food logging and mundane activities actually become fun, interesting, and motivating. It may sound crazy, but you WANT to log your food because you want to see what you are doing.
As a side note, if you decide to use the bugg, Apex will try to sell you their supplements. Fortunately, they are not pushy. Other than a single multivitamin a day, I do not believe in supplements. I never purchased any of their supplements so I cannot speak on their effectiveness.
ekaren
Sep 25 2007, 02:15 PM
Personally, I feel that each individual needs to find out what motivates him/her.
For some people, it's as simple as putting up motivational phrases on the refrigerator and your worst photo.
Other people like a very objective approach--basically, they like numbers. Some people fulfill this need with a pedometer and others with counting calories and nutrients in a computer program. Some people diligently record all of the information from the workout equipment, while still others use a heart rate monitor. Now, we have a new device for number junkies.
As for the validity of this device, I wanted to check the research study. And, when I saw that it was published in May a little light bulb went off in my head--that is the issue of MSSE where the conference abstracts are included--but not full papers. Sure enough, that's what I found. I'm going to try to figure out if a paper ended up being published.
dryeyes
Sep 26 2007, 12:39 AM
I agree with two things here:
1. Junk food and a lot of food IS expensive. If someone were to just write down how much they ate and/or spent on bad food you would be surprised on both accounts. I am all for healthy eating (I try) and not blowing a bunch of money on anything (I try).
2. If something works for YOU then you need to stick with it!
Take care!!!
Jasunshine
Sep 26 2007, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (morning_princess @ Sep 21 2007, 08:53 AM)

thank you for sharing your story about the body bugg, it does make me want to do some research on it- the $400 is the price, but did someone say you had to keep paying monthly? what is that for? and also, i have a horrible time keeping a food diary, i have never been good at that, do you have to do that for the bb?
thanks!!
That was a great response before and is pretty consistent with my own experience. I do work out with a trainer at my local university affiliated wellness center. He used to work at 24hr fitness in california before he moved east and told me about the bb when I started training with him in July. I'm a feedback addict so I immediately bought one (I also have a Garmin gps/hr monitor and ipod nano sports thing and wear all 3 at the same time, seriously So I know how well I'm progressing athletically as well as with my diet/calorie burn and deficit).
The subscription fee is for the online program that gives you feedback. You do have to enter everything you eat in a food log for each day and also enter your weight once a week then the program compares what you lost vs. what you should have lost based on the equation calories burned (from the bodybugg upload) - calories consumed. For every 3500 calories you burn more than you consume, you should lose 1 pound. If you're also weight training, that number will be reduced by a little muscle gain (you can track body fat percentage and lean mass as well). The theory being that the math should always match. I have had one now for 7 weeks and it has helped me get through plateaus and lose weight at a faster rate than in the past. I can see just how sedentary I am on my non workout days and how much I burn just doing housework - a lot more than I expected. I swear my house is cleaner since I've had the Bugg.
That's all great news. And for everyone who hates to keep a food diary I can attest that as someone who has been to multiple nutritionists and struggled with my weight since college, keeping a food diary is considered one of the most effective, essential weight loss strategies. Yes, nutridiary and sparkpeople are excellent tools. I also like the daily plate especially because they seem to have the most food data in their system. I wish I could have just synced my daily plate account with the body bugg data but that option isn't offered yet. I'm hoping eventually they'll allow that so that all the people already tracking intake online can just match that up with the bb data. I also train for marathons and triathlons as a very slow fat athlete and the calories burned daily estimates on tdp and training peaks have always been grossly overestimated for me. This data is much better because it's based on the readings from my own body and have been much more useful that the calculated data.
However, my one peeve is that the burn figure is 92% accurate based on clinical trials (that's an average), which is very good, but the online support team acts as though it's perfect and the only way there could be any discrepancy is if you're cheating in terms of food logged. For the burn figure to be 8% off on average means it's more off for some people sometimes and less so at other times. I burn on average anywhere from 1600 to 2700 calories in a day. If the number is off by 10% for the week, that makes a difference. But there's almost no acknowledgement of that. I weigh and measure by volume all my food, many would say obsessively. I haven't had a single meal out at a restaruant in weeks so I know what I'm eating. Sometimes I beat my target calorie deficit and sometimes I miss it. Sometimes I meet it and it's not reflected on the scale for a couple days. Waste and water retention has a lot to do with it also. Overall, very helpful, but thinking that the data must match up every time will drive you nuts.
Jasunshine
Sep 26 2007, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (risteel @ Sep 25 2007, 12:15 PM)

If I am short on protein, I will eat foods with more protein. If I am short on fiber, I will eat foods with more fiber. I choose the best foods to reach my nutritional goals, while remaining low in calories (because calories are pivotal towards weight loss).
Photogirltr6 said it best when she referenced the effectiveness of biofeedback. Your feedback is immediate. For whatever scientific reason, the immediate feedback compels you act appropriately. You become so focused on what your body is doing, food logging and mundane activities actually become fun, interesting, and motivating. It may sound crazy, but you WANT to log your food because you want to see what you are doing.
As a side note, if you decide to use the bugg, Apex will try to sell you their supplements. Fortunately, they are not pushy. Other than a single multivitamin a day, I do not believe in supplements. I never purchased any of their supplements so I cannot speak on their effectiveness.
Definitely had to add that I totally agree with this. I often adjust my evening intake all the time based on the feedback, although not always. Re Apex supplements, this really bothers me. Apex should really tone down the supplement pushing as it undermines their credibility and seeming scientific integrity. I take a multivitamin and do not want any so called fat burning supplements. You can't say there's no magic pill while also trying to sell your own magic pills. Their marketing folks need to push back on that one.
Pwr2bme
Sep 26 2007, 10:11 AM
On Jillian's radio program on Sundays, someone asked her about this device. She said she didn't really like it. She said it wasn't accurate. She said it might be cool if you have money to burn, but her thought was to use some sites on the internet that let you get calorie info for free! A Heart Rate Monitor you can get for $50-100 for a basic one and it will tell you calories burned.
You can get to her radio show
http://2005.kfi640.com/pages/JillianMichae...;article=518206and click on Jillian on Demand. All of the shows are archived there.
Just something to add to the topic
highonlife
Sep 26 2007, 10:52 AM

Hello - I just wanted to say that I gave in and I bought a BB. It was delivered this morning and I have my phone consultation tomorrow to teach me to use it. I'll let you know how it goes!!! I am hoping that it will motivate me to see the big picture of how much I burn vs. how much I eat. I am excited to be beginning my weight loss journey!!!
rowman
Sep 26 2007, 10:54 AM
I have been using a heartrate monitor and the power output of my rower to guesstimate calories burned for years and it works pretty well. I do think that having some measure of your work output when you exercise is valuable, but even if the body bugg is as accurate as they say, I personally don't think it's worth the IMHO very high price.
For the sake of argument, let's say my calories burned, as measure by my heart rate monitor and rower power, is off by 15%, which wouldn't really surprise me, and the body bugg is dead-on accurate. Over the course of an hour row, I typically burn about 900 calories. The body bugg will report (accurately) that I have burned 900 cals, while in the worst case scenario, my system will tell me that I have burned around 135 less cals. What is 135 cals? A slice of toast with jam, <1/4 cup of nuts, a single yogurt? In my opinion it's unrealistic to expect to take off significant amounts of weight if you're going to be cutting your cals in/out this close to the edge. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the better accuracy of the body bugg doesn't necessarily buy you what you think it does.
However, I did like the way Kim used it to show her team members that they were only working when she was in their face; that was priceless!
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