When I wasn't on the pill, I was always worried about that, I never really knew when I was due. I sometimes get like one or two pimples, but the pill blocks that usually. I get leg cramps too, those are awful. Do you get them like on your thighs, like muscle cramps? That's how they are for me. Feel better soon, good night!

I felt pretty good and then my body aches came back it's all hit me like a ton of bricks

^^^ Aww, that sucks! ***Hugs*** I hope you feel better tomorrow!

I don't know that I would go so far as to say I'm a masochist, but I kinda like the pain from cramps.

Sure, it's he ll when you are going through it, but after...feels amazing.

IDK if it's because you were in severe pain before and the absence of it is awesome, or what, but it's the most relaxing feeling in the world (...well...almost the most relaxing feeling ).

Well, without pain there is no pleasure, so I'd say it's just that you can really feel the pleasure when the pain is gone. ITA, it's a good feeling to feel no pain. And, like Brother Justin--Carnivale--said/would say "Pain is an unavoidable side affect" !

2 cups of green tea I feel good and am wide awake. I'm having a heart to heart talk with my body clock tomorrow morning

Pain is just a message from your body to your mind. Your primal mind reacts to the pain, but you dont have to let it. If you can get inside your head, you can defeat pain.

Ick. I feel gross today. I do not feel like going to school like this.

Those are fightin' words in this thread, Roy. pip ^^ or any number of the girls in this thread are gonna come after you...

Day 8 that is all

Yeah, remember that the next time you get kicked in the nuts or pass a kidney stone. Man, Roy, you are so funny you could do stand-up.

Okay... so I had my first "visit"

OMG.. I mean that just felt .... strange. I mean I had no idea it is beyond words.

Good news before my visit I could not even use a tampon.... after my visit my period came.. and I can! ( dude why did no one tell me sooner about tampons! I mean SOOOO much better than pads)

I know TMI, but whatever I had to tell someone and you guys are it!

Oh man, that really sucks. ***Hugs***


I bought tampons once, but I could never quite bring myself to do it! Congrats on that though. I go to the gyno, but since I'm not sexually active, I don't need to get examined.

I had cramps in my right hip and lower back all day, and in last period (around 11:15-12:10) I got some in my stomach. I also feel sick and I'm spotting, but the last pill I have to take is on tuesday night. It's a good thing I have an appointment with my gyno/doctor tomorrow, but it doesn't make it suck any less.

oh dear I hope it is all good!! That sounds scary

I will join the I do not need to get examined club!! I am not sexually active and proud of it!!!

Pain is weakness leaving the body.



I cannot believe you haven't tried them sooner Pam!!!!!!




It's not a big deal....try it, I SWEAR you will be happier for it. I would DIE if I had never tried using tampons...they are amazing. Really, truly, honestly, do yourself a favor and just try it.

I know Sharpie! I mean I had no idea what I was missing!! I just look at my box of pads now and shudder... I feel like there is a whole new world now!

Yeah Carnivale.. really it is so much better! plus you do not feel like you are wearing a diaper and all that stuff. Really you will thank yourself! SOOO much better!!

The only thing is that I am paranoid about when I change them.. I make sure I do not have a class or work.

Actually this afternoon I have to work with Communities in Schools for about 2 hours ( I stand up the whole time) so this will be the real test!!

I guess I should ask my doctor tomorrow how to put it "in" (sorry, I know TMI). I would love not having to wear pads, and be able to go swimming on the first couple of days of my period. Maybe I'll give it a shot this month (which should be by the end of this week). Thanks for the encouragement!

In HS I had a job where I was on my feet for 7-8 hours at a time. I could not have survived.

Pam, it's still a good idea to wear a liner.

OMG! Why is it soooooooo hard to get away from the MB?!!??!?! I'm now going to be soooo late to work.

My doctor said that after my pap test it would be much easier and it was! I mean like 10 times easier... I had to ask her how to "put them in" as well. You should try it! it is great and once you learn how how to put it in... it just keeps getting easier and easier!



Oh man, I understand about the liner. My friend has HEAVY periods and she has to wear a tampon and an overnight pad... I am just sticking with the liner!

I hope that this is much better.. I hated walking around and running outside with a pad.. just nasty!

I know I need to leave or I am going to be late for class.. SOOO VERY HARD to leave!!

When I wanted to try tampons when I was 13 my mother said no. And gave me alist of crazy reasons not to. But when I started going to the gym I tried them and they are a God send. Glad you had a good visit pam.

This might be TMI but oh well. One of my ex friends tried to get me to use that cup thingy. I can't remember what it's called. It's like a tampon but you can leave it in for 12 hrs. It just looked alittle too far out there for myself.

I feel the same way, I hope you won't be late for work! I'm getting off to take a nap after this post, I have to!


Thanks for the encouragement Pam, I think I'll give tampons another shot!

Tampon Talk. I remember my mom finding a box of tampons in my bathroom when I was 16 and freaking out on me about how virgins shouldn't wear them! Whatever, Mom. FGC, your gyno will tell you this I'm sure, but try Tampax pearl or another plastic applicator one when you try them out. The original cardboard ones are much more difficult to use.

Im not saying pain isnt real or is something you can toss aside. But through entering a meditative state, you can defeat it. I am merely suggesting a therapy.

sounds like tom cruise talk RA.

Or you could take some oxycontin.

your mom gave you that speech too. My mom told me as well that they would make you sick. Only girls who played sports used them, easy girls used them and girls who were lazy about being clean used them.

Anyone wanna talk about make-up? Ponies? Rainbows?


Hey, real question . . . . on "What to Wear", I saw the make-up artist use a spray foundation. (She sprayed it onto a sponge, not the woman's face, ). It looks super light, and I like that idea. Anyone ever come across something like that?

That sounds really awesome.

I'm still looking for makeup (that isn't Bare Minerals) thats non comedogenic and still gives good coverage. It's so annoying.

I'm also trying to find a hair product that's not oily that I can use because I think that helps clog up my pores. I have one kind of in mind though, I just have to wait till I get my hair cut to use it.

Haha I pictured the make-up artist taking a windex-type bottle and just spraying the girl...thanks for the clarification! I would've been left with a very silly image in my head. And now that I'm clear on what you were saying, that sounds amazing! I want a spray on foundation!

Question. I'm desperate for new shampoo. I want one that wont make my hair greasy (my hair is blonde and thin, so it really shows when the shampoo is too heavy), will make my hair shinier and brighter (it feels dull), and that smells good. Suggestions?

nioxin is amazing to keep your hair thick and healthy..... doesn't smell great but not horrible.
their products are amazing as well. my hair is usually flat on top but when i use the root lifter spray.... it's unbelievably full of body. i love the stuff. they also have scalp therapy that you spray after you use the shampoo/conditioner. it's all good. my last stylist warned me against using cheap products that just smell good. ??? who knows. i do love the nioxin though. (glad we changed the topic... i'm 29 and still get embarassed talking about you know what )

I use Pantene during the week, and then use something called "Sunday Shampoo" from Bumble and Bumble that strips all the residue from hairspray, mouse, whatever from the hair, (but there are other brands, Neutrogena and Pantene both have a version). It really helps keep the flat-look away.

I'm looking for one too. I've been trying different shampoos for a month now and I haven't found anything I like

Thanks for the suggestions! Maybe I'll try them. I've never heard of nioxin, Dunder.



Same here! And I'm very particular (as you can see from my list of things the new shampoo must do for my hair) so it gets difficult when buying shampoos. I currently have a Suave version of John Freida's sheer blonde stuff. Its fine, but nothing to rave about. My hair feels flat and dull.

I alternate a lot cause I find if you use the same one for a long time your hair will get greasier faster. I like The Body Shop products and I use the Nettle Oil Balance Shampoo. It's lite and has pretty natural ingredients and Body Shop doesn't test on animals, all their products are great !

I also use Camp Suds, which is a biodegradable soap you can use as dish soap, body wash, shampoo, etc. I like it cause it's also quite lite and has nontoxic ingredients so it doesn't get my skin all oily and pimply. But it might be harder to find. If you want something similar, just look for an biodegradable soap at a outdoors supply store or something.

I would suggest trying to find something with few good nontoxic ingredients, it won't be as harmful on your hair and skin. Oh, and both the recommended shampoos smell great !

I use that Neutrogena one, it works really well. I can tell that it's really cleaned my hair when I use it.


The Pantene color expressions stuff has worked way better for me than the John Freida stuff. It's awesome.

I was thinking about getting this conditioner. Has anyone ever used it?

I use the Pantene Smooth(green lettering) shampoo & conditioner, it is for straight and curly hair and does a great job, IMO. I use Prell once a week to strip all the crap off as well. My kids know not to use 'my' shampoo as it results in long lectures and never ending guilt trips

If i run out of shampoo (i dont know which kind i use, it is just the stuff in the shower that magically appears) I use a bar of soap (also dont know what kind. Dial maybe?)

I actually bought a box of tampax pearl, I just couldn't do it. My mom never gave me a talk. She uses pads, so I do too. She bought the box a few months ago, we still have it! Thanks for the tips.

Ok, we can change topics now!

Mambo there are so many shampoos out there, but it's so hard to choose one. I'd go with the Body Shop ones, like CHBO said. They're really light and all natural. I also like suave and pantene.

To this day my mother has never given me a talk. I was horrified when I first found out what a tampon was and even more afraid to try it...but you will be better for it, trust me. Just try it once. If it's not your cup of tea, then it's not, but you should still try it.


I use Biosilk shampoo/conditioner. It's expensive, but my BF is a stylist and gets it for me cheap.

I really like Redken shampoos. The one in the blue bottle works best and it smells like baby powder. Otherwise I just use a simple everyday shampoo and herbal esscense damage control conditioner. it's amazing stuff

I only use shampoos & conditionars(sp) from the salons, as the drugstore ones dry my hair out, taking away the softness & shine. I recommend the California KMS set, or anything from Joico, which is another excellent brand. Ooh, and Biolage is fab too for the tresses. Trust me, the extra dollars spent in the end is so worth it for the beautiful hair. I'd rather be broke with salon worthy hair that have a few extra dollars with drab, dull hair. I'm the kind of person who will buy professional products ie makeup, hair products to look & feel good . Healthy hair=happy person. Maybe that's why I never have spilt ends & maybe that's why my hair is able to retain water...

I ended up buying some Pantene stuff. The other Pantenes were creamy, and I read that blondes should use only clear shampoos because the cream-based ones are too heavy. It looks pretty convincing. I'll tell you guys how I like it tomorrow!

http://www.pantene.com/jsp/product/index.jsp?pdId=147

Not if he keeps that up



All the products I use are geared toward eliminating/preventing sun damage. When I use foundation I used Neutrogena Visibly Even.




Doesn't that make your hair kind of brittle?

Ugh......i think i am experiencing some side effects from my 'shot'. I wont go into too much detail but I am going from this to to to and finally ending with & (combined)

I hope you feel better soon ***HUGS*** !

That doesn't sound too good, I hope you feel better soon OH! ***Hugs*** (What kind of shot was it?)

thank you!

I feel ok but other parts of my body think they are in charge

Gosh, that sucks! May I ask what kinda shot it was? I had a shot for like 3 thing--hepatitis maybe, I can't remember exactly--and my arm was all numb for like a day afterwards . I'm glad your feeling a little better !

LOL, I'm sorry OH, I hope those effects go away..and I apologize for laughing, but the transitions in emoticons are amusing.

I had the DepoProvera shot, which is for 3 months of BC. Even though I dont need BC since my tubes are tied, i got it to try to cut down on heavy-ness during the tide. I knew there were side effects but they seem to have hit me all at once today.

Sometimes being a woman is a pain in the patootie.