AzizalSaqr
Sep 18 2007, 10:03 AM
From NBC Universal Media Village
ER
COMING HOME
11-15-2007 10:01PM
HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS -- GORAN VISNJIC RETURNS, STANLEY TUCCI ("The Devil Wears Prada") AND REIKO AYLESWORTH ("24") GUEST STAR-- Gates (John Stamos) and Julia (guest star Reiko Aylesworth) nurture their newly found romance but are quickly interrupted by a troubled phone call from Sarah (Chloe Greenfield). Abby (Maura Tierney) continues to be off her game and the other doctors are starting to take notice. Harold (Steven Christopher Parker) saves the day in a critical situation and still makes his date. Kovac (Goran Visnjic) surprises Abby by returning a day earlier. Mekhi Phifer, Linda Cardellini, Parminder Nagra and Scott Grimes also star.
Show Cast: Goran Visnjic, Linda Cardellini, Parminder Nagra, Mekhi Phifer, Maura Tierney, John Stamos, Scott Grimes
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AzizalSaqr
Nov 10 2007, 01:36 PM
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rebecca3
Nov 11 2007, 09:01 AM
Is that.....
PETER FONDA????
OMG!!!! Easy Rider comes to ER! I'm excited now!
AzizalSaqr
Nov 11 2007, 11:04 AM
Yes, Peter Fonda, and I had the same reaction when I saw him in the photograph....it's so strange to think of him as being old.
MasterBlaster56
Nov 15 2007, 10:57 PM
But...
neela_ND_ray_4ER
Nov 15 2007, 11:01 PM
Still no real Neela, and I was hoping to see that.
I like the friendship starting between Neela, Morris, and Harold. It's cute.
The beginning was so cute with him practicing "his moves"

anyway, I feel so strongly for Abby. She knows she is falling apart, but she doesnt know what to do to fix it. I felt so sad at the end of this episode =(
I wonder if she is ever going to tell Luka what had happened. I mean some people tell the ones they love if they make a mistake like that because it means you can strengthen a relationship I've heard. =/
whitewave
Nov 15 2007, 11:05 PM
It's so sad that Abby is drinking. It looks like she's pregnant from that drunken night. Poor Luca.
G-Unit
Nov 15 2007, 11:08 PM
Was it just me or was this episode way too Gatescentric? I love the chemistry between he and Sarah but it is the only storyline that makes Gates watchable and quite frankly, I don't know if I want to see it all season long. That chaplain lost all credibility with me after taking a drag from that joint. I'm sure that's what God wanted. The scene where Moretti bumped into Luka and Abby kissing was just classic. That scene was so uncomfortable to watch. I'm so happy that Luka is back. Niko looks nothing like I envisioned. He's short and goofy looking. He's like the opposite of Luka. Abby slipping that Vodka in the soda can and then drinking it in front of Joe was just pathetic. I can't believe I'm saying this but Harold is starting to grow on me. It looks like Neela is doing well with mentoring him and he's beginning to develop his social skills. The second tuxedo so fit his personality much more than the first one did. Another dumb storyline for Morris to be an idiot with. He's always funny but to be honest I'm getting weary of seeing him be the clown every week. Pratt pulled another dissappearing act. Was that Dubenko in a love scene in the promo for next episode?
maurafan
Nov 15 2007, 11:32 PM
Once again, I thought Maura was outstanding! That encounter w/ the three of them (Abby/Luka/Moretti) and the subsequent anxiety/panic & vomiting... & OMGsh - when Abby was cleaning up her mess on the floor of Joe's room ("Out d@mn spot!")- heartwrenching. The pain of knowing you're going to cause someone you love such heartbreak. The thought of being intimate again when the last encounter was unfaithful. I don't ever remember ER exploring such a deep guilt like this. You could just feel the pain of all of that & not being able to undo what you've done. Uhg! Very emotional.
I was less disappointed in the chaplain's pot than I was in the idea that she seemed so detached. I imagined that she ran deeper than that.
*Pardon my sentence fragments.
Sandalwood
Nov 15 2007, 11:41 PM
Lol, G, you pretty much hit upon all the things that struck me too. The chaplain and the joint...and what about her comment about how she doesn't sleep over so early in a relationship?! But she'll have sex and be on her merry way. Alrighty. Yes, a lot of Gates this episode, but the Sarah storyline is so 'last season' for me; I really don't want to see her angst again this season. But did anyone else feel that she bears an uncanny resemblance to the woman who played her grandmother??
Ya know, I really like Harold. He's cute (in that awkward way) and genuine, and MUCH more believable in tonight's episode as a compassionate young newbie doctor who bonded with a patient and his dad, rather than the nerdy virgin who didn't realize it was totally unprofessional to ask his supervisor (Neela) about a girl's private parts. The blue suit was over the top, though -- no rental place still sells those (unless it's a costume shop). Morris was fun too -- but I had to roll my eyes at his use of Solomon's wisdom in regard to cheese.
Yeah, nothing major happening for Pratt but hopefully that will change. I felt for Abby. Her trying to rub out the stain from the carpet -- a symbol of her desperate desire to rub out the stain she caused in her marriage -- was poignant. But as the dad of that kid said tonight, you can't unring a bell.
And I KNOW! That was a bare-chested Lucien in the promo!
Tiger Lily
Nov 16 2007, 12:55 AM
I enjoyed seeing Morris take Harold under his wing. Reminded me of how he got excited a couple seasons ago when he found out he was a father and wanted to get to know his kids! However, the whole cheese-rolling story was too over the top. I hope they also throw some more dramatic scenes his way.
Harold was more tolerable in tonight's epi; it was good to see his sensitive side with the child patient. By the way, I was watching S11's "Here and There" and he had a brief appearance as one of Neela's patients (playing someone named Gus!).
Maura continues to do a great job portraying Abby's struggles with alcoholism. Again, we are left with another gut-wrenching emotional scene at the end of the episode.
Poor Pratt! I guess the writers are at a loss with what to do with him?
Tiger Lily
AzizalSaqr
Nov 16 2007, 02:49 AM
I just realized I put the wrong pictures in this post, once photobucket finishes it's update I'll post the correct ones.
Was nice to see Luka back, and yes, his brother definitely got the short stick on looks and height...kind of goofy too.
I don't envy Abby telling Luka what she did, but, as hard as it will be I don't see him walking away from her or the marriage, not after knowing what it's been like to lose a family already.
GalaxyDuster
Nov 16 2007, 09:21 AM
QUOTE (whitewave)
It's so sad that Abby is drinking. It looks like she's pregnant from that drunken night. Poor Luca.
Whitewave, that would be impossible. Abby had a hysterectomy in "Bloodline" (the first episode of Season 13). No uterus = no pregnancy.

This episode was, again, fantastic. I enjoyed that we are seeing Neela at peace, working in the OR. The thing between her and Abby made me really sad. Neela knows something is wrong, but Abby, in true Abby fashion, isn't going to lean on anyone.

Her illness at seeing Luka and Moretti talking was so realistic. I feel like the writers of this episode must have actually lived through this experience to be painting it so true-to-form. Once again, her pain and guilt and shame were 100% palpable. When Luka hinted that he wanted to sleep with her that night, she simply sobbed. You could tell she was wondering how she'd get through that, knowing what she'd done.
I was glad to see Sarah back, but Gates is still tee-ing me off. He truly has no class -- equating his date to a prostitute and picking on the entertainment they shared like it was a waste of his time... ugh, Gates.
I liked Harold just a tiny bit better last night, after he showed some real concern for his patients. He's still pretty ridiculous, though.
EmNiBoPa
Nov 16 2007, 09:43 AM
Wow. Abby's plight was gut wrenching last night. It's so powerful that you almost feel her guilt for her. So sad.
Does anybody know the name of the song that was played during the last scene where she is cleaning up her vodka and coke? I really liked it, but I can't find it anywhere. Thanks.
I didn't really like the secularization of the chaplain. I really thought that she was being brought in to be a polarizing influence on Gates, and then she ends up being more worldly and offbeat than he is. I was pretty disappointed. I find her bohemian attitude very unbelievable and a little bit tacky considering her position.
MicheleL4
Nov 16 2007, 10:39 AM
Does anyone know if Stanley Tucci's run is over or if he'll be back??? They kind of left his story hanging.
Wabbitseason
Nov 16 2007, 10:54 AM
Hey folks a couple of thoughts. I do not think Abbey slept with him, but I feel her guilt will cause her to tell luka in the future. I think he will leave her with thier kid, and possibly a suicide on abbey's part. I hope it is not true but I got a "feeling" please tell me I am wrong and tell me how else it can turn out.
luna_rae
Nov 16 2007, 01:14 PM
You know, as for Abby sleeping with with Kevin - when I first saw that scene last week I was thinking it was a dream. Obviously as the episode progressed it was not a dream, but there was still something weird about it. They might have kissed and gotten a little intimate, but I'm thinking they did not have sex. Kevin keeps telling Abby that he wants to talk to her (i.e. he wanted to talk to her before she left his apartment; he wanted to talk to her at the hospital). What if he tells her that he stopped before it went too far? I hope so for Abby.
This last episode was funny. I finally got my boyfriend to watch the show with me this season and I think Morris' character is one of the reasons. That character is so funny sometimes.
And I LOVE having Luka back. He was only in a few scenes but I waited all week for that.

(Goran is SO hot)
GalaxyDuster
Nov 16 2007, 01:23 PM
As nice as it would be if she didn't, I'm pretty sure Abby slept with him. The flashbacks were very telling. I think he would have told her before she ran out if she hadn't. I think Moretti just wanted to talk to her to clear the air, but she didn't want anything to do with him.
luna_rae
Nov 16 2007, 01:38 PM
Yeah, I agree with you on that. Maybe I am just hoping for the best.
I think Abby will tell Luka, but I don't think he will leave her. I think Maura and Goran are done in the spring - so I am just hoping their characters live happily ever after. lol. Sappy, but whatever.
redhed
Nov 16 2007, 01:45 PM
QUOTE (GalaxyDuster @ Nov 16 2007, 01:23 PM)

As nice as it would be if she didn't, I'm pretty sure Abby slept with him. The flashbacks were very telling. I think he would have told her before she ran out if she hadn't. I think Moretti just wanted to talk to her to clear the air, but she didn't want anything to do with him.
I was very disappointed she would not talk to him. I think he would have told her it was a mistake, and they should put it behind them and move on. I kind of thought she might open up to him about her troubles then they could have form some kind of friendship because what does she have to lose she has all ready fallen off the deep end, and her other friends do n ot seem to notice how much pain she is in. Then I thought well if he comes back maybe they are going to do more with the story line. Which kind of makes me want to vomit that love scene if we can call it that made me a little ill. I too think that they actually did it. The episode it self was a little lacking I thought it had some good parts I was sad to see Moretti go because I really like his character he shakes things up a bit.
deniserules
Nov 16 2007, 02:12 PM
This is my first time posting here but I felt compelled to after watching the last two episodes of ER. For a show that has been on the air so long I am continually delighted that the writers manage to keep it interesting.
Watching last episode was heart wrenching. I was hoping for a bit more from this episode, but every episode can not be a "mouth hanging wide open" shocker. I am surprised that so many people are surprised by Abby and what happened to her. She is a strong woman, yes, but she has always carried demons around with her. Having a new baby at home is very stressful. Top that with the stress of the ER and I guess it would drive anyone to drink!
And what about Luka? He kept promising and promising to return and left her hanging! Why didn't he answer the phone when she tried to call him? That is inconsiderate to say the least. Now he shows up with his brother, not even taking into account that he hasn't cleared this with his wife? My prediction is that this will be the last season for Luka's character. When they start taking haiatus then it won't be long.
I'm kind of dissapointed that she is still drinking, though. I thought after the thing with Moretti happened she would hit her low and go back to AA. I am dissapointed in that, but on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens next!
AzizalSaqr
Nov 16 2007, 02:36 PM
Luka's father had been seriously ill, he went home to help his brother deal with the arrangements that needed to be made for his care, and maybe to see him for what might have been the final time. We have to remember too, that Luka said that he and Niko had last parted on not so good terms when he made the decision to leave Croatia for America. Perhaps they decided that their father's current slip to a stable condition might be the only chance for Niko to get away to meet Abby and Joe with Luka before he would need to return to Croatia and take over the care of their ailing father full time on his own. Yes, they should have called Abby first, but, Luka had said he wanted to surprise her and he likely didn't think she wouldn't take Niko's visit poorly, since she had never met any of his family before. I'm looking forward to seeing how they deal with Abby telling Luka of her night with Moretti, but more, with how the two of them face what comes from it, together.
RandGsmommy
Nov 16 2007, 03:40 PM
As sad as it is there is no chance that Abby is pregnant from that night because when she had Joe she had to have a hystorectomy because of complications during the C-section. Thank god wouldn't want to breed with that jerk.
RandGsmommy
Nov 16 2007, 03:55 PM
Last nights epi was awesome the connection between Morris, Neela and Harold is really starting to get fun. What is going on with Morretti's son what a freak it looks like he is nutty and that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I think Moretti is scum and that he totally took advantage of Abby's drunken state and the fact that she has been on her own for so long. It's hard to be all on your own with a baby and also have such a high stress job. I think that Moretti's days are numbered with him leaving to go to his son. Wouldn't suprise me if his nutty son takes him out. Like Frank said the ER is a dumping ground for burn outs. I hope that Luka and Abby can work it out and that this doesn't come between them. They are a totally great couple and it would break my heart to see that change they were meant to be together. I do have to say that the fact that Luka and Niko were drinking beer when Abby came home kinda sucked I think that he should be more supportive towards her not drinking.
Wabbitseason
Nov 16 2007, 04:16 PM
ok first like I said i do not think abbey slept with him.....second the flashbacks are what she thinks happened. Morreti was trying to tell her each time, in his home and at work before the situation with his son came up that nothing happened. Abbey is just thinking the worst since she cannot remember. I do not see this ending well for her.
luna_rae
Nov 16 2007, 05:15 PM
Did Luka know that Abby had a drinking problem before? I think Carter was the only one who really knew that side of her. So if Luka didn't really know she had a problem, he wouldn't know to be sympathetic to her in that way.
As for Moretti, I don't think he is scum. I think he was either equally intoxicated OR it didnt go as far as Abby thinks it did. I don't think he is a bad guy. I think he is trying to shape things up in the ER and he comes off rough. But if you remember Kerry and Ramano - they weren't liked by everyone. I think Ramano was more of a jerk than Moretti is - plus Stanley Tucci is amazing lol
Wabbitseason
Nov 16 2007, 05:18 PM
Yeah Carter had told luka about her drinking problem. And Morreti is not scum I think he is a good guy trying to get things done in the ER. His heart is in the right place.
jlcnbc
Nov 17 2007, 12:24 AM
I missed last night, what happen with abby? Did Lucka come home? Help need info
curiousmonkey721
Nov 17 2007, 02:10 PM
great epi except for the gates storyline. i fastforwarded through all of is scenes.gates sold go back to being a paramedic so we dont have to see him as much. i really dont like his character and that chaplin lady is not very chaplin-like. abby's storyline on the other hand is very good. i thought there would have been more conversation between abby and moretti though. if they hadnt actually slept together then moretti would have made more of an effort to tell abby that they didnt do anything. he would make sure that she knew nothing happened before he left to go deal with his crazy son. maura's acting was great (as usual) and that last scene with her cleaning up the spill was so emotional. i dont think i'll be able to wait two whole weeks before next episode
AzizalSaqr
Nov 17 2007, 08:20 PM
Yes, Luka came home, he brought his brother, Niko with him, seems Mama and Tata Kovac saved the height and cuteness genes for the second-born child.
MarkGreeneLives
Nov 18 2007, 06:48 PM
Was Abby pouring Vodka into the Coke can at the end of the show/Is she STILL drinking??? She needs serious counseling....
B_Dubya
Nov 18 2007, 09:35 PM
QUOTE (wabbitseasonwow @ Nov 16 2007, 04:16 PM)

ok first like I said i do not think abbey slept with him.....second the flashbacks are what she thinks happened. Morreti was trying to tell her each time, in his home and at work before the situation with his son came up that nothing happened. Abbey is just thinking the worst since she cannot remember. I do not see this ending well for her.
This post of mine from last week's episode's discussion shows that I agree with you.
The flashbacks she is having are something her mind is trying to make up since she doesn't remember the night at all. He didn't sleep with her, trust me.
docaholic
Nov 18 2007, 09:48 PM
I must admit I just found Harold annoying until this episode. He won me over with his compassion and putting his patient's well being ahead of his own. He didn't even seem to realize he was wearing the tux when he cut into the young guy's chest. Totally selfless.
Another surprise to me is how well I'm liking the character of Archie Morris lately. Scott Grimes rocks!
amerirish
Nov 19 2007, 11:58 AM
Hello all, first time posting here. "Coming Home" also inspired me to come on and comment.
Fantastic, deep, emotional & funny episode! OMG, it's been so long IMHO since ER has been that good. Poor Abby! Her and Luca are my favorites; pretty much the only reason I am still watching. As for the poster above that doesn't think she slept with Kevin: her clothes were crumpled up on the floor, they were both naked and she was in his bed! I don't think there's any way that it didn't happen and if the writers tried to 'take it back' by saying they didn't it would be corny & stupid (again, IMHO).
I also don't think that Luca is going to leave her, but I did get the impression that she could consider suicide. She is most definitely not pregnant because of the historectomy (sp?) and also the fact is that she had only slept with Kevin a day or so before her throwing up, I'm not a doctor but I doubt you're going to have morning sickness that fast!
As for Gates, I love him & the whole Sarah storyline. I do not like the chaplain at ALL and their bedroom scene was awkward and sleazy I think. He should hook up with the kid's mom from ICU.
Oh, and P.S. - who the heck decided to dye Sam's hair brown?? I think it looks really bad. She was so adorable as a blonde.
That's all for now, thanks for listening
ERFAN5302
Nov 19 2007, 12:11 PM
I saw on Access Hollywood a while ago, in a little interview with Maura, that Luka's character was only going to be in 4 episodes this season, so I kinda think this is his last season, but it makes you wonder what will happen to Abby's character and the baby.
amerirish
Nov 19 2007, 01:02 PM
Maybe they'll all move to Croatia.
luna_rae
Nov 19 2007, 01:30 PM
lol Luka's brother is really funny looking. I'm thinking Abby will be sick of him in like .02 seconds. Too bad Luka's brother wasn't as hot as he is.
AzizalSaqr
Nov 19 2007, 01:58 PM
A recent interview with Goran, it's posted in his thread, states he is doing 3 now, then coming back later in the season for a final 4, so we'll get a total of 7 to wrap up the arc for the couple.
As for Luka leaving Abby, I don't think it will happen, family is too important to him, he'll work things out with Abby, no matter how difficult it is for them.
GalaxyDuster
Nov 19 2007, 05:30 PM
I just wanted to add, I understand the hopefullness some people have that Abby and Moretti didn't really sleep together -- and I hate to say it, but there's no way they didn't. The flashbacks were too vividly telling. He'd have told her immediately if it hadn't happened. Besides, I'm sure she could tell, the next day, what happened (not to be graphic or anything, but she would have physical awareness of what happened). I'm sure that they did it, unfortunately. They've given us no reason to doubt this.
Trifioso
Nov 21 2007, 10:41 AM
I am really vacilating on this one. I agree, Abby would have signs that she had been "active" the night before, but, people say that wicked drunken sex is not all the participants think it is. More like shooting pool with a rope, I guess. And I can't exactly remember all the flashbacks they showed, but weren't they mostly upright in them? Not sure they actually made it into the bed....could be just wishful thinking, though. I think maybe there is a tiny, teeny window of question here. True, she and Moretti were definitely crossing a line, but maybe not the WHOLE line....not like Luka is going to be all "Oh, just drunken moshing while Joe was home with the sitter? Okay then." But still....
I can imagine that Abby confesses to what she *thinks* happened, Luka at some point confronts Moretti, and then he sets Luka straight, but with a good dressing down as to what a mess Abby is in regarding her drinking.
With regards to Moretti as the head of the ER - I think his behaviour was reprehensible. Yes, he was compromised too, but no where near as drunk as Abby, who is his direct reporting employee. Additionally, he had made that cutting remark a to Abby about "getting used to working with someone she wasn't sleeping with" so I can see his actions as a power play - and not a good one.
I guess it's pretty obvious that I just want Luka and Abby to have a happy ending. These are two very broken people who made a happy life together, and I want them to have the happily ever after. Sappy, but true. I did get a good feeling reading the article about Goran that Azizal posted under his topic heading. Sounds like they are looking to respect the fan's wishes on this one, so I am hopeful.
thanks for reading, E
sonatacek
Nov 23 2007, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (wabbitseasonwow @ Nov 16 2007, 10:54 AM)

Hey folks a couple of thoughts. I do not think Abbey slept with him, but I feel her guilt will cause her to tell luka in the future. I think he will leave her with thier kid, and possibly a suicide on abbey's part. I hope it is not true but I got a "feeling" please tell me I am wrong and tell me how else it can turn out.
My feeling is you are right. Luka may not be able to handle her infidelity, considerring his strong religious beliefs. Abbey may not be able to take the depression and the drinking. She needs help but I doubt the character will realize it. (She may want out of the show.) However, it would be a more possitive message if she is able to get counseling and medication and continue her life. (Then Luka might return.) Who knows what the writers might write?
"I support the writers!"
Wabbitseason
Nov 29 2007, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (Trifioso @ Nov 21 2007, 10:41 AM)

people say that wicked drunken sex is not all the participants think it is. More like shooting pool with a rope
OMG! That was a mental image I did not need LOL!
Trainerjen
Nov 30 2007, 12:13 AM
Ok, yeah. I totally agree and I actually thought of that. You KNOW if you've had sex the night before. Drunk or not.
However, I see Luka's religious beliefs keeping him WITH Abby more than I see them making him leaving. He's Catholic. In the Catholic Church, it's "Til Death do us Part". I don't see him walking away unless Abby WANTS him to. Which I don't think she does. She loves him...she's just got some SERIOUS issues.
As for "Who knew?" Well, Carter knew. That's for damned sure. Abby was HIS sponsor. Carter and Luka were pretty good pals. Added to that, I think Luka knew because when you're a recovering alcoholic, it's something you tell your friends and family. So I'm fairly certain that at LEAST Neela and Luka knew. Keri knew, that was actually a discussion between them before Abby went to Med school. "Can you handle this" sort of thing. So yeah. People knew. Including Luka. That doesn't excuse what she did...and I'm thanking God that a pregnancy isn't a possibility. It would be SO soap opera.

(not that I don't love my soaps, I do. I just don't want it in my evening dramas.

).
After tonight, I'm hoping things will start moving better between Abby and Luka. The previews for next week, with Joe having his first Christmas make me hopeful.
Teacher8
Dec 1 2007, 11:02 PM
HI! I am new to the ER board. I have been an ER fan since episode 1. I hate what is happening to Abbey....poor soul.
As a Christian, I usually hate how the portray Christian's on TV. Like with Hope, she was so dense for awhile. We all aren't so stereotypical! But I totally dislike the new chaplain. What a goofy character! She is such a free spirit...hopping into bed, smoking a joint....what spiritual guidance! I hope she leaves soon.
I am learning to like Harold, too.
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