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The Jim Paradox S4 is the third installment of in-depth analysis and discussion of Jim's emotional, psychological, and behavioral patterns as they relate to JAM. Each week a new analysis is posted dissecting Jim's psyche on scene by scene basis. Each post includes interactive questions (QTP) aimed at inciting intelligent and fun discussion. Please feel free to join in and add your thoughts and observations!

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Argue with grace. This thread is all about exchanging ideas and observations. Disagreements are bound to arise, so please remember to respect and appreciate opposing viewpoints. This is an open forum with plenty of room for different ideas. Debating is encouraged, but keep it civil and graceful! Thanks! smile.gif

Episode Links:
Each link will take you to the page of the original analysis for each episode and the start of all subsequent discussion for that episode. Check it out to catch up on or relive discussion on previous episodes! New links will be added for each new episode.

Fun Run (scroll down to post #2)
Dunder Mifflin Infinity
Launch Party
Money
Local Ad
Branch Wars
Survivor Man
The Deposition
Dunder Mifflin Infinity - Newpeat Addendum
Dinner Party
Chair Model
Night Out
Did I Stutter?
Job Fair
Goodbye, Toby - Part 1
Goodbye, Toby - Part 2

Season 4 JAM Playlist:
A new song is added each week.

Fun Run: Everything - Michael Buble
DMI: All I Got - Newton Faulkner
Launch Party: All We Are - Matt Nathanson
Money: Dare You to Move - Switchfoot
Branch Wars: I Need Something - Newton Faulkner
Survivor Man: The Riddle - Five For Fighting
The Deposition: Call Me Irresponsible - Michael Buble
Dinner Party: How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) - Marvin Gaye
Chair Model: To Be Surprised - Sondre Lerche
Night Out: Bad Day - Daniel Powter
Did I Stutter?: She's So High - Tal Bachman
Job Fair: In Her Eyes - Josh Groban
Goodbye, Toby - Hanging By a Moment - Lifehouse

The Office Convention Adventures:
Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8

Reference Links
Visit the partner thread for the JPS4 to get the other side of the story.

The Pam Dichotomy S4

Use these links to revisit previous seasons on the PD and JP.

The Pam Dichotomy (original)
Summative analysis of Pam in Seasons 1 & 2 focusing primarily on her emotional duality.

The Pam Dichotomy S3
Partner thread for the Jim Paradox S3 that explores Pam's character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how her behavior impacts JAM.

The Jim Paradox (original)
Summative analysis of Jim in Seasons 1 & 2 exploring the paradox of his emotional status and his actions.

The Jim Paradox S3
Partner thread for The Pam Dichotomy S3 that explores Jim's character development on emotional and psychological levels with emphasis on how his behavior impacts JAM.

Commonly Used Acronyms:
PD - Pam Dichotomy
JP - Jim Paradox
CN - Casino Night
FNB - Fancy New Beesly
QTP - Questions to Ponder

Click here for a complete listing of message board lingo. The very last page has the most current acronyms.

One more thing: Have Fun! laugh.gif
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Fun Run

As if Jim’s hair wasn’t enough of an indicator, Michael’s statement as he drove to work said it all, “Jim is back.” From his rolled up sleeves, crooked ties, and wide smile, it appears as though the Jim of long ago has returned. At least on the outside. It remains to be seen if he is the same old Jim on the inside. To the delight of JAM fans, Jim and Pam finally crossed that line past friendship into something “more than that.” Jim appears to be embracing his new status with Pam with the giddy demeanor of a teenager. He’s now living out his long held fantasies of being with her and he’s ecstatic. His joy sparkles in his eyes and plays across his smile. Jim hasn’t smiled this wide and often since Season 2. The euphoric status of JAM is effectively creating a bubble (it’s baaaack) that encapsulates Jim and Pam into a safe place to fall in love all over again. There’s no doubt the Jim loves Pam and Pam loves Jim, but they have to fall back in love. There’s been a year of distance and change between them. Jim needs time to adjust to FNB and re-navigate himself. Pam figured out how to make herself happy, but Jim has yet to accomplish this feat. He tried to do it last year and failed miserably. Jim needs to truly find what makes him happy and add Pam to the scenario rather than making her the whole scenario. At the moment, Pam has effectively become his escape. This little escape isn’t necessarily a bad thing, as she may help him find more self awareness. After a year of trying to change he needs to rediscover himself and how he relates to Pam. The bubble also gives Jim a place to just be with Pam and let his fears relax. Jim has always had issues with emotional honesty, especially last season as a result of the fear paradox. He may be allowing himself to gush all over Pam, but he has yet to release the same deep emotions that overwhelmed him in CN. This will take time, but it will happen. As of right now, he isn’t capable of expressing emotional honesty on that level. Until he can, the bubble is a nice escape, or cushion (See PDS4 post #54 for clarification) on which to build a strong foundation of emotional trust. He needs the bubble, and therefore takes the lead in maintaining the safe zone. Both Jim and Pam have only admitted to dating, which is effectively the gray area in between friends and a committed relationship. It’s tough to ascertain just how serious Jim and Pam are in their relationship, but it’s pretty safe to say they aren’t jumping the gun. The bubble zone a wonderful place for Jim to rediscover his ability to love Pam without the fear of getting hurt. He’s not staring at her from a distance wondering what it would be like to be with her. Instead he’s exploring the possibilities with experience. Jim has loved Pam since day one, and now he has an unexpected chance to make it happen with her. He’s not going to blow it by moving too fast, hence the bubble. It slows both of them down enough to truly explore how emotions and communication need to function for their relationship to last

Reference Links:
All reference links have been placed on the first post of this thread. Click here for episode links, previous PD/JP threads, and general information. I’ve added a number of new features to this season’s threads, so be sure to check it out!

JAM Playlist Song:
Everything
Michael Buble

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At Pam’s Desk:
Season 4’s first view of Jim finds him in a very familiar place: Leaning on Pam’s desk. It’s a beautiful sign that Jim is through trying to be something he’s not. In another return to normalcy, Pam is by his side. He watches with her as the IT guy tries to fix Pam’s computer, following an incident with a downloaded sex tape. He is relaxed and comfortable in both his body language and appearance. Jim is close to Pam, without a single hesitation of having his arm so close to hers. In fact, he is slightly leaning towards Pam. His shag is back on his head while his sleeves have migrated from his wrists back up to his forearms. His patented crooked smile is back and full of life. Jim is back.
He appears bored yet content to have Pam near him as the IT guy explains it’s not a good idea to click on unsolicited material on the internet. Jim is shocked to learn that Pam downloaded a celebrity sex tape. His eyes grow wide in disbelief, but his also completely amused by her error. Pam is full of surprises and he loves the ride. He’s getting to know her all over again as FNB is an entirely new person. He proceeds to tease her about it lightly, “Really, what kind of celebrity.” To his delight she plays along, “Not relevant.” He pushes it further by asking how much she paid for it and was again surprised at her repeat response, “Not relevant.” Her smile causes Jim to poke fun at her one more time and at a higher level, “You paid for it!” His tone is one of disbelief, but it also carries a touch of sarcasm. Pam is fun to tease, especially since she has found the ability to laugh at herself. His face lights up even more after she smiles widely and says, “It all happened so fast.” He looks away and smiles at both the humor of the situation and Pam. She makes him laugh like no other.

Talking Head:
Jim is pretty candid in describing his break up with Karen. In a very matter of fact tone he says, “I broke up with Karen after the job interview.” As suspected on the JPS3, he ended things with Karen after realizing he belongs in Scranton with Pam. He appears to harbor no regrets for breaking it off, as he knows it was the only option for him. He goes on to say, “And uh, it was a little awkward when she came back from the city.” He lets out a nervous laugh halfway through his statement as a way of acknowledging his mistake of dating her in the first place. The awkwardness of the situation as a whole makes Jim very uncomfortable but he can still find some humor in the mess he made for himself. All he can do at this point is chuckle at himself and move on. It’s a difficult topic for him to address, which causes him to lose eye contact with the camera several times. He doesn’t like talking about Karen and that phase of his life. Last year was a mess of confusion for him and he’d rather just leave in the past.
The scene shifts to a flashback of Jim and Karen in the break room with her giving him the business end of a major rant. Jim’s own words help to convey his reaction to her rant, “She told me, very clearly, just because we were broken up didn't mean she was going anywhere, because she worked really hard for her career. But the next day her desk was empty . . . ” Jim doesn’t feel bad or sorry for breaking up with her, but he does harbor some guilt for hurting her. His nervous laugh returns to denote this guilt and acknowledge his mistake. Back in the break room, Jim barely says anything in response, as Karen lets him have it. He’s not going to try and defend himself as he knows he shouldn’t have let the relationship go so far when his heart belonged to someone else. It’s her right to be angry and he’s not going to take that away from her. He breaths a deep breath and just takes it as there’s nothing he can say or do to make it better. There is a sense of relief that Karen left, but Jim can’t help but feel bad for being the cause of her shifting her life yet again.
The camera returns to Jim’s face as he begins to discuss his current status, “and as for me and my current romantic life . . .” His tone immediately changes from discomfort to upbeat. His eyes lift and literally begin to sparkle as a smile refuses to stay hidden. Just from these cues alone, it’s obvious his romantic life isn’t as stagnant as he proclaims. His smile is bright and alive; the man is happier than he’s been in ages. However, he’s intent on keeping the details of his new relationship with Pam a secret. It’s rather obvious that his little speech was prepared ahead of time, especially the last two sentences. He continues the charade, “ I uh... I'm single now and looking . . .” His eyes look down and his smile slowly morphs into a small grin before he speaks. His thoughts are drifting towards Pam. For just a moment he lets himself feel the dream of being with her, even though he’s in the midst of covering it up. He recovers quickly and does his best to throw a shroud around his relationship status. To throw the camera crew off the scent he caps his talking head with, “So if you know anybody.” He can barely keep a straight face, as a tiny grin tries to escape. There is mischief gleaming from his eyes. The game of keeping the relationship a secret is in full swing. For Jim it’s about protecting his privacy, but it’s also the equivalent of a prank. He throws in a shrug and an awww shucks grin for good measure to make his claim believable. He looks away from the camera knowing he’ll crack if he makes too much eye contact. By then end of his talking head, his full prank face is in play, almost daring the cameras to catch him. His eyes squinted ever so slightly with one eyebrow raised. It’s the classic Jim Halpert prank face. His prank may be a fun way to deal with keeping his love life a secret, but it’s also about preserving the bubble with Pam. He just wants to be with her right now, without anyone interfering. The motivation keep it a secret may be serious for him, but that doesn’t mean he can’t have a little fun!

Weekend Plans:
The bulk of this conversation is analyzed on the PDS4, so feel free to visit for background!
In essence, this scene is meant to throw the rest of the office of the scent of their bourgeoning relationship. They most likely have plans together for the weekend, but they don’t want anyone suspicions arising about their relationship. Jim’s voice is flippant as he runs through his fake plans to mountain bike on Montage Mountain. It’s all part of the game for him and he’s having fun outsmarting his co-workers. As if his new relationship isn’t exciting enough, he gets the added bonus of the excitement associated with secrecy. It only adds to the pleasure of finally being with Pam.

Break Room #1 - Carpool Plans:
As Pam takes charge in the break room of carpooling plans, Jim backs her up by offering to take three people (which is weird considering she drove him home later that day, but I digress). FNB was in full swing as she planned times and card signing strategy for group visits to see Meredith in the hospital. Jim couldn’t help but notice FNB, especially as Pam put up a fight when Michael challenged her plans. He watched her slightly puzzled during her strong stance with Michael. She stood up for herself three times. That’s not the Pam he knows and he’s not sure what to make of it. It’s a side of Pam he’s never really seen before and it’s a little jarring. He doesn’t smile at seeing this change, he simply attempts to process what he just saw. Interestingly, he didn’t jump in to back her up in this instance. He can see she can take care of herself, which is another aspect of FNB that is very different from Old Pam. He realizes he has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to knowing Pam.

Conference Room #1 - Religion:
Jim is beyond bored as Michael leads a meeting attempting to eradicate a curse upon the office and discuss religion. He and Pam are sitting on opposite ends of the table as a likely attempt to appear as if nothing is going on between them. After having enough of Michael’s aimless ramblings, Jim take advantage of Michael’s sacrificial animal speech by offering to do some research. He’s creating an escape for not only himself, but also Pam. He tosses her a quick glance to tell her he had a plan, in a beautiful example of non-verbal communication. She picks up on it immediately and follows him out of the conference room and into the bubble with him. This scene was a great example of non-verbal communication but it is also dripping in symbolism. Jim’s actions in this scene are highly representative of his role in the concept of the bubble and the overall tactic to keep the relationship a secret. The bubble is an escape from everything that distracts from the euphoria currently enveloping both Jim and Pam. Michael’s droning is representative of some of the deeper issues that Jim and Pam have shelved in order to preserve the bubble. Jim is the one who leads the way towards escape. Jim is the leader when it comes to the bubble, while Pam takes the lead with the relationship (see Conference Room #2). It makes total sense that he would take the lead, considering he is an expert at constructing facades and creating escapes. His previous behavior pattern from Season 3 backs this up (see JPS3 Summative Analysis). Luckily, Jim’s concept of façade has switched from trying to fool himself to fooling everybody else. His need for the bubble is rooted in the fear paradox as Jim still needs to find his way toward complete emotional honesty and work past his fears of getting hurt. He may be willing to wrap himself in a relationship with Pam, but his deep rooted fears are still in play. The bubble lets him put those fears to rest in order to spend time with Pam and build a strong foundation for their relationship. Eventually, the bubble is going to burst (meaning the euphoria will wear off) and those fears will come to the surface again if Jim doesn’t feel safe enough to give away his heart. Jim is the one who will ensure they take their time in the bubble.
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Kissing Pam:
The continued game of keeping things secret plays out as Jim jumps into Pam’s car after an undoubtedly well crafted plan to pick him up down the street from the office. He hurriedly gets into the car to avoid being seen, but to also take his place next to Pam. His face radiates with huge dorky grin. He is totally smitten with her and he can’t hide it from showing on his face. In all three seasons, Jim hasn’t had a smile that shines anywhere close to the one he wears in Pam’s car. It’s as if he hasn’t seen her all day. After getting settled, he anxiously reaches to kiss Pam. His mind was likely on this moment all day. The kiss itself is expected on both ends and familiar, yet Jim retains a sense of wonder. He is careful to live in the moment even if it’s only a few seconds. The kiss is extremely tender despite being so quick. His hand reaches up to lightly touch her face as if he’s afraid she’s too good to be real. It’s still not completely real to him and he almost has to reassure himself.
Jim is enamored by the idea of his relationship. He’s finally getting to do the little things with her he’s always wanted to do. That little kiss means the world to him. Jim is literally living his long held fantasies on a daily basis. The ability to kiss her or touch her face is something he dreamed about as his eyes wandered towards her desk for 3 years. This elevates Jim’s euphoria tenfold on top of the usual new relationship giddiness that surrounds most couples. The bubble is what lets Jim live in his fantasy without his fears. The moment he shut the door to Pam’s car he was safely stowed in the bubble where only he and Pam exist. Emotional honesty is a big hurdle for Jim, (and always has been). Right now he’s taking some of his emotions out for a test spin as he explores a relationship with Pam. The bubble lets him do that with a safety net. He’s not capable of giving his heart away quite yet, but he is letting Pam begin to see it.
As Pam drives off, Jim’s face is plastered with another smile. Only this smile is geared towards the game of secrecy. His face full of mischief as he looks like a mouse who got the cheese out of the trap. Jim is beyond proud of himself for pulling a fast one on the camera crew and another day of fooling their co-workers. He loves it that it’s their little secret. It’s all the more evidence that he is the instigator of the game.
Another interesting facet of this scene is the fact that Pam is driving. She is the lead in the relationship and she is the one driving him “home.” This is a nice bit of symbolic extenstion considering Pam is the one who got Jim to come home in The Job. This may be a bit of foreshadowing in that Pam will help Jim find more self awareness throughout Season 4, so he can truly come home on both the outside and the inside.

Break Room #2 - Race Strategy:
Jim sits with Pam in the break and asks her about her race strategy for the fun run. His body language is again opened and relaxed as he enjoys his time with Pam. Stanley may have been in the room, but Jim is only with Pam. She jokes around that she is going to, “Well I'm gonna start fast . . . Then I'm gonna run fast in the middle.” Jim goes along with the playful banter, clearly amused with Pam’s answer, “What?” he responds with a sarcastically surprised tone. Pam keeps the joke going by saying, “Then I'm gonna end fast.” Jim continues to be amused and asks Pam playfully, “Why don’t more people do that?,” as he smiles at her clearly enjoying their little joke. However, he is pulled from his little world, when the camera creeps closer to the table. He is a little freaked out by the camera’s domineering presence. He feels the invasion of the bubble and doesn’t like it. However, he doesn’t suspect the secret is out as he has way too much confidence in his ability to play the game. He’s never really been caught in any of his pranks, so he‘s not worried at this point. Realizing the camera isn’t going to go away he tries to nonchalantly ask, “What?” He is still playing the game the same way he did in his earlier talking head as a means to protect the bubble and the secret.

Conference Room - Caught:
Jim’s eyes remain locked on the television screen after the video evidence of his relationship with Pam is played. His mouth hangs open in disbelief only to open wider as he briefly turns his attention to the camera. The bubble has temporarily popped as Jim feels the invasion of the camera crew. Part of him is shocked they found out, but he’s also floored that they outsmarted him. He’s never been caught in the midst of a prank (or an equivalent of a prank). He thought he’d done a better job keeping a lid on his relationship and they caught him red-handed. He averts eyes quickly as he fumbles for an answer, “Oh, ah... No that's not... I mean that wasn't, ah…” He’s totally flustered as he’s trying to somehow rebuild the bubble. It’s disconcerting for him to have the camera crew in the safe zone with himself and Pam. His eyes return to the television as he fully takes in what the camera caught. He briefly looks to Pam to help him refute the evidence, but she offers little help since she is just lost as he is. Jim tries to cover their tracks again but he can‘t put together a solid explanation, “I mean I can see how it would seem a bit like we uh... How it looks like um…” His words are again scattered and thoughts are incomplete as he scrambles for an excuse. The words he doesn’t speak actually help to clarify some of Jim’s thoughts. Jim isn’t able to complete his statements because he isn’t sure how to define the relationship. Each time he trails of or pauses, it's at a point where he’d have to insert an indicator of relationship status. He hasn’t really thought about where he and Pam stand from an official standpoint. In actuality, it’s something he can’t or even won’t do in order to maintain the bubble. This is symbolic of his inability to take the lead in the relationship. Just as Pam drove him home the day before, she is in the driver’s seat in the relationship until he finds his bearings. He takes a long pause after he says, “How it looks like um . . . “ He is thinking long and hard about what he sees on the television screen. Everything between him and Pam is suddenly very real, (and visible) and he wants to protect the bubble even more. He doesn’t want the camera crew to horn in on his alone time with Pam. He needs this time to figure out his feelings without the camera’s watching. Admitting the true nature of the relationship should be an easy task, but for Jim it’s not. Defining the relationship means he has to let go of some of his fears, regarding his emotions. It’ll force him to emerge from the euphoria and deal with emotional honesty. He’s still a little skittish about expressing his emotions, so avoiding a definition is quite natural for him. In the bubble, Jim has a found a place to let some of his feelings roam, but he’s careful about which emotions he releases. Right now, he’s letting his “crush” manifest, but the deep emotions he let out on CN are still being held back until he feels safe enough to express them. As a result Jim turns his attention to finding a way to keep the bubble intact by offering his best attempt at hiding the truth, “I mean nowadays you can edit anything, right? I mean you can edit anything to look like um... Anything” Halfway through his explanation he feels like an idiot. He knows how ridiculous it sounds as it leaves his lips. He looks at Pam to non-verbally beg her to jump in at any time and help him out. He’s drowning here and needs Pam’s help. She obliges but falls short, “Yeah, I gave him a ride home because. . . “ He looks at her expectantly, hoping she can save the sinking ship. He backs her up with a hopeful, “Right.” He keeps his eyes on her as she pauses still hopeful she’ll come up with something. To his utter shock she blurts, “We’re dating.” He is absolutely floored by her spilling the truth, but also at the fact that she defined their relationship. He didn’t expect her to drop the ball and it takes him a moment to fully register her statement. On top of that, FNB continues to surprise him. She pulled the rug out from under him and he never saw it coming. He looks away from her and almost tries to shake some sense into his head. Realizing Pam has given him no choice but to own up to the truth, he looks at the camera and says, “Wow, there it is.” It’s the first time he’s hear it loud or even fully acknowledge the reality of their relationship to himself. His reaction is really indicative of the notion that they have not talked about their relationship or their feelings. They have both just been going with the flow without stopping to long enough to assess where they stand. The euphoria felt too good to stop! A smile creeps across his face as he can’t hold it in anymore. Pam picks up the baton and continues, “Yeah, we haven’t told anyone yet.” As he continues to smile and stare at her, the information is processing. All of the sudden it hits him: I am dating Pam Beesly. He laughs slightly in disbelief at his own reality as he tries to obscure a lovesick smile with his hand. A new bubble has formed in place of the previous where he is living out his long held fantasy of actually dating Pam. It’s real and it’s glorious. He is once again just with her, even with the camera watching. It doesn’t matter anymore that the camera crew knows. A fresh batch of euphoria has taken over Jim. His face becomes flushed and his hand continues to cover his mouth as he tries to control the effects of his fantasy coming true. He’s actually a little embarrassed at his inability to control his reaction. His eyes drift to another part of the room as he tries to figure out what to do with this new reality beyond letting it give him a case of the giddies. It’s no use as the smile under his hand refuses to be subdued. He is elated and it’s absolutely intoxicating. Pam surprises Jim again by saying, “It’s going really great.” Despite his being thrilled at the reality of dating Pam, there is a small amount of uncertainty given the fact that Jim still hasn’t fully internalized the magnitude of a defined relationship with Pam. His face reads, I guess so. He knows he feels good when he’s around her, but he isn’t ready to admit it’s because he loves with her. It’s another indicator they haven’t talked about how or where their relationship is going. The lack of this conversation is what creates uncertainty on both sides. He doesn’t know what she’s thinking and she doesn’t know what he’s thinking. This moment is the first time they’ve discussed the elephant in the room. He can’t help but agree with her by echoing her statement. Part of him also knows Pam needs the reassurance, but he genuinely agrees it really is going great. He is right back in the bubble with the girl he’s always wanted.
As whole the scene shows that Jim has the lead in the escape route or bubble aspect of JAM’s relationship. He is the first that spoke up after the tape played in order to keep the bubble intact. JAM needs the bubble right now, especially Jim. He needs some time to just get lost in Pam and figure out his feelings. Furthermore, Pam is the lead in the actual relationship. She is the one who defined the relationship when Jim wouldn’t. She is the driving force of JAM until Jim finds a way to unlock the feelings he is leery of allowing himself to express. Between his bubble and her courage they’ve struck a nice balance that will serve JAM well. Jim will keep them from moving too fast, while Pam will keep them from stalling.

Conference Room #3 - Giant Check:
Jim finds himself in the middle of another boring meeting as Michael plans further logistics of the fun run. As they discuss the distribution of funds Jim can’t help but see the lunacy of the debate over the giant check. With light sarcasm he puts his vote to getting the giant check just to end the conversation. Dwight’s protest about his money going towards the giant check rather than bat birth control stirs Jim’s annoyance further. He’s officially had enough of both Michael and Dwight’s lunacy. Based on Pam’s facial expression, he likely shared a glance with her carrying a non-verbal cue denoting his annoyance. She raises her eyebrows and smiles back, indicating they just shared inside humor for Michael and Dwight’s antics. It’s beyond reassuring to see JAM’s non-verbal communication continue to grow. As the meeting wears on, concern arises over who will come to pick up the big check. Pam informs the group that a doctor will not come by to get a check for $500 (if they go with the big check), and neither will a nurse. Jim seizes the opportunity to craft the perfect prank. He sends another non-verbal signal to Pam to alert her he’s getting ready to play . She acknowledges his signal with a silent and slight smile. Just as humor has always connected them in the past, it’s working it’s magic once again. It’s something just between them. Jim proceeds to convince Michael and Dwight to hire a stripper by simply implying he’s seen ads for nurses that can be hired by the hour. It’s a classic Jim prank pulled off with perfection. It’s even better as Pam is there by his side to laugh with him.

Break Room #3 - After Pam Sees “It”:
As Pam freaks out about seeing a half naked Michael, Jim sits and listens. (Are those Dockers he’s wearing?? Please say it’s so! ) In a noticeable return as Pam’s go-to guy, Jim lets Pam say whatever she needs to say in order to feel better and calm down. He can see she has a little bit of a sense of humor about what happened, but he also knows she’s horrified. He tries to relax her with some humor by referring to Michael’s anatomy as a baguette. She responds with her own euphemism by calling it a “dangling participle.” Jim has obviously tapped into the right part of Pam’s psyche to help her calm down. Despite the distance and the newness of FNB, Jim still knows Pam. As Michael raps on the door, Jim smiles at Pam’s exaggerated “Come in.” He likes how Pam isn’t afraid to tease Michael or poke fun at what happened to her. Both Jim and Pam proceed to point out Michael’s mistake with light sarcasm, until Michael is flustered enough to say, “Besides my shirt tail covered most of it so…” Pam sparkles again as she jabs Michael with, “I didn’t see where it started, but I saw where it ended.” Jim is surprised, but he backs her up with his somewhat playful, “Gross,” (Of course, part of him really is grossed out). Michael continues to rant explaining that Pam’s artistic background should cause her to see him as a model. Jim can’t help but widen his eyes and share a non-verbal joke with Pam. She responds immediately as they lock eyes and laugh at Michael’s lunacy on the inside. In yet another great example of non-verbal communication, Jim is connecting with Pam via humor.
One of the more interesting aspects of this scene is the changing dynamic of Jim and Pam’s roles in relation to one other. Another very Season 2 characteristic of Jim is his role of supporting and taking care of Pam. Throughout Seasons 1 and 2, whenever Michael stepped over the line Jim was there to protect Pam. He shines in this role during this scene, but in a different way. His support status has changed in that he isn’t the one taking care of Pam. Pam is taking care of Pam. He is simply backing her up. He lets Pam do all the talking as she stands up for herself. He interjects only to reinforce her statements.

Holding Hands:
Jim and Pam are the last to make their way to the sidewalk as the rest of the runner have blasted ahead of them. Jim is wearing a glowing smile, most likely in response to the prospect of being able to spend time with Pam. Pam playfully replies, “Oh we're in last place.” Jim finds this utterly adorable and responds with equal sarcasm, “Oh, would you look at that.” Pam continues the joke with, “Darn it.” Jim loves the game they are playing as he knows full well Pam is just as thrilled as he is to be alone. The rear end of the field affords them enough privacy to be in their bubble with only each other. After thinking about it for a few moments, Jim tentatively reaches out for Pam’s hand. There’s a shyness about his reach as if he’ unsure of how Pam will respond. Holding her hand whenever he wants to is part of his long held system of fantasy. It’s a big deal to him. He’s always wanted to just hold her hand. It’s all part of the new bubble created in the conference room earlier in the day. He’s undoubtedly held her hand in the time they’ve spent together, but this time is different as their relationship is now defined. He is dating Pam Beesly and he wants to hold her hand to solidify that status. The euphoria of the concept is still swirling around him. His initiation of the act speaks volumes of Jim’s desire to be with Pam. He may have some emotional blocks, but it doesn’t negate his need to be with her. He bumps her hand first, as a way to test the waters. Jim is still feeling out the boundaries of their relationship. He doesn’t know what is okay and what isn’t yet. He doesn’t know if Pam is a hand holder or not. His gaze is trained on the ground rather than on her, denoting further insecurity in his actions. In a sense, he’s putting more of his emotions on the line as he reaches out for her and it’s a little scary. The moment she wraps her fingers around his, she anchors him. He is safely in the bubble where some of his emotions can roam freely while he figures out the rest. He holds onto her to find his way back to himself. He may be Old Jim on the outside with Pam, but he’s still working on the inside. Having Pam by his side is all he’s ever needed and he’s holding onto that dream.

Estate Sale:
Jim and Pam’s hands remain interlocked as they approach an estate sale. They are clearly in their own little world as they continue to lag behind the rest of the fun run group. Jim can’t resist the opportunity to stop and take a look. It’s something fun, that he knows Pam would love. However, it’s also another way to spend more time alone with Pam. No one they know is around and they can simply play and make a fun memory, “Ooo! An estate sale. Wanna go in?” He’s amused by Pam’s sarcastic response, “I don't know I'm really committed to winning,” as he knows he has pegged her perfectly for wanting to shop the estate sale. To keep the playful banter going he says, “OK, but what if I told you all the money you spend here, goes to preventing a disease that's already been cured.” Jim wants to take them out of the race just for a little while. He wants something just between them and this little sale fulfills that desire. He again initiates a little escape, furthering his role of being in charge of the bubble. Her further sarcasm makes Jim smile as she is the only one who totally gets his humor and his motivations. After agreeing with him, she bounces along side him as they enter the house.
The camera later shows Jim and Pam leaving the estate sale with an interesting lamp. He is smiling as they exit because he is watching her describe her find to the camera. She loves the “designy and cool” look of the lamp. Jim isn’t big on the lamp, (his eye brows raised during her description) but he loves her for liking it. Pam then passes the lamp off to him to hold. Jim is a little thrown by her action, but he is thrilled. He responds playfully, “Oh, and I get to hold it.” It isn’t meant as a jab, but rather a warm tease. He turns his head back to the camera with a huge smile on his face. Holding things for a woman is a boyfriend duty and Jim is basking in yet another fit of euphoria. Their relationship hasn't been designated as anything beyond dating, but Jim still loves the role Pam is giving him. He gets to fulfill this duty without just being her friend that wants “more than that.” He is actually able to do “couple” things with Pam and it’s thrilling. Jim has always loved taking care of Pam and holding the lamp gives him that opportunity even if on small scale. FNB is pretty self sufficient, causing Jim to readjust his role in taking care of her. The opportunity to hold the lamp for her is something he grabs onto happily.
As for the symbolic nature of the lamp hand off, see the PDS4!

Helping Michael:
Despite the annoying nature of Michael, neither Jim nor Pam can pass him by as they see him writhing on the ground from exhaustion. They have long held the role of taking care of Michael on both an individual basis and as a team effort. Jim is the first to jump in and motivate Michael to finish the race, “What are you doing here . . .did you come back for us?” It’s his way of building Michael’s confidence. Unfortunately, Michael’s has deteriorated past the point of Jim’s help. Michael proceeds to whine, “I can't finish. I feel so weak, I just…,” which annoys Jim to no end. He has very little tolerance for whiners. He sarcastically tells Michael he needs a drink of water but Michael is not responding to Jim’s teasing at all and begins to rant about various ridiculous problems he can’t fix. Jim again relies on humor and teasing to fluster Michael and snap him out of his funk, “Wow. You are a downer. We’re having a pretty nice day.” Jim is talking to both Michael and Pam, but on different frequencies. For Michael, he’s trying to show him the positives of life to cheer him up. For Pam, he uses the word “we’re” to further acknowledge his new status with her. He is also looking for some reassurance. He wants to know if Pam had a nice day with him. He’s glad to hear her say, “I’m still having a nice day.” However, he needs one more little inkling of reassurance, “You are?” He’s a little playful in his tone, but his motivation remains the same. At this point, he’s pretty sure she had a good time, but he wanted to be certain. It’s important to him that she’s happy with him. From here, Pam takes over caring for Michael and Jim steps back into his supportive role. FNB is once again stepping out on her own and doesn’t need him to do things for her anymore. Jim is still learning this new role as he watches FNB in awe. He offers support when she needs it, but he knows he must let her spread her wings. Although, Pam takes the primary lead in caring for Michael, it is still a team effort. Once Pam is able to convince Michael to finish the race, Jim reaches his hand down to help Michael off the ground. Even though he’s refused, it still stands that it was a team effort to take care of Michael. Taking care on their lunatic boss has always been a duty they shared and it oddly connected them in the past, just as it does now. The best part is they can laugh about it later and connect on an even deeper level.


Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?


Sorry this is so late! Hour-long episodes take me forever to pick apart! It’s going to be like this for the next few weeks, but I will do my best to keep both the PD and JP updated before each new episode airs. I realize there isn’t much time to delve into the QTP, but I’d still love to see what everyone thinks. If you can’t leave specific answers, random thoughts and observations are equally appreciated. Let me know what you think of the analysis. Positive responses are appreciated just as much as posts that challenge my arguments. smile.gif
Jim is a tough nut to crack as always, but it’s so wonderful to see him so happy. He deserves it after spending the last year in such turmoil. I’ve never been more thrilled to see JAM Optimist arguments win as I watched the premiere. Before I wrote the Summative analysis I was deeply worried about Jim. It wasn’t until I sat down to write that the optimist arguments became so strong. I’m absolutely thrilled to see Jim taking a chance despite his still present fears. He’s letting himself go with the flow and that is so important for him to achieve complete emotional honesty. If you choose to answer any of he QTP (hope you do!), please remember to play nice and have fun!
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Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?


Yes, but it is too soon to know if this is in a needy way. I think it is safe to say Jim is lost. He lived his life for years with only the dream of Pam, and now that he has her he is terrified Pam will not be enough to make him happy. Jim just spent a year trying to be happy by going his own way and he was miserable. Jim does not trust his instincts, causing him to continue to float without a fully functioning internal compass. North points to Pam, but he has no other direction or ambition to guide him if he is wrong once again. Pam is good for Jim and makes him truly happy, so over reliance on Pam is not a terrible thing for the moment, as he tries to find True Jim.

However, Jim still needs a dream outside and independent of Pam. A belief in almost anything other than, Pam can make him happy. The conference room discussion with religion seems to make this point. Pam and others offered their religious affiliations without concern for ridicule, yet Jim did not. Jim not wanting to discuss his religion is his choice, but he looked down at the table and avoided any eye contact with Michael during this discussion. He looked like a schoolboy hoping to avoid the teacher's attention. This is significant to Jim emotional state, because either he does not know what he believes or he is extremely uncomfortable with his beliefs. If Jim did not care he would simply make a joke of it. Pam has become a substitute for all these gaps in his life and this over reliance if used as a tool will benefit Jim and JAM in the future. If used as a crutch, over reliance will likely become needy and depressing.



2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?

Jim has learned he does not want to be with Karen or another woman who does not accept him. One reason Jim is basking in Pam's warmth and acceptance, is the contrast to Karen's attempts to change and fix him. Jim also learned an important lesson about Pam during Fun Run. Pam is ready to move past the prank and be his girlfriend, and needs him to take that step with her. Pam defined their relationship and his attachment became more real. He played the part of boyfriend by backing her when caught red-handed and taking her hand in public. Pam rewarded him by defined him as her boyfriend by embracing his hand and then giving him the lamp to carry. With each interaction outside the guise of a protective prank, Jim learns this is really happening and Pam is really there with him sharing his life and happiness. And that is really great.

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?

The emotional barriers are strong in the beginning, as Jim is hiding behind Pam instead of from Pam. He made huge steps forward in recognizing Pam's need for more in the relationship and realizing in the end that he to wants more than the fantasy, he wants Pam. Barriers still remain, but only time will tell how much Jim will need them with Pam by his side.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?

Both Jim and Pam seem happy with their status by the end of Fun Run, so who am I to determine it is anything other than just right for them.

Jim's return to his desk.

I think Jim is very pleased to be back in his old desk with Pam in easy eyeshot, but I think this is the result of office reorganization. When Karen and Ryan left at about the same time the office went back to the way it was before. Michael liked this format before the merger and would want to return to the status quo. Michael may have asked Jim which desk he preferred, but Michael made the decision before asking the question.




As a brief tangent I think the writers missed a great opportunity for a he said she said moment with Jim and Karen. Jim's brief and general description of the break-up is expected. He broke up with her, she was angry, and then she left. After a year developing JAREN I thought Karen deserved a chance to express her feeling over losing her man just as she thought he was finally hers. I would like to know if Karen landed on her feet and is moving on at least in her career. Also the question of exactly when Jim broke up with her could have been answered. Jim's vague TH saying he broke up with her after the interview and Karen not returning from New York until after the weekend does not create a clear timeline for me. I know most are completely satisfied with Jim's guilty explanation, but I am not convinced.
Lenny9987
I can't believe I have to wait until I get back from class to read this (I'll speed through any homework I have to get to this though; great motivator). I'm sure it's fabulous as always, SB. Be back later.
just_once
u]Questions to Ponder[/u]:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
Somewhat, but not in an ultimate relationship-damaging way. He's reliant on her to help him figure out who FNB is, to know her. He's knows the Pam of S2 inside and out, but this new FNB is exciting, yet unfamiliar to him. He is reliant on her to help him understand better who she's become in the past year. She's shown him how she can take care of herself and she doesn't need him to rescue her anymore (organizing the trip to visit Meredith/setting up carpooling/confronting Michael about his "dangling participle"). I think this makes him wonder exactly what his role is in the relationship, but he's so caught up in the euphoria of finally "being" with her that he's not stagnated or put off by it. He's ecstatic about being with Pam that she's described to the camera crew as "dating". This type of lead-role taking on Pam's part is healing for Jim. He needs to know that she knows that she knows that she knows she LOVES him more than anything or anyone in the whole, wide world. It's what's he always wanted, but feared he could never have, until now. Therefore, Jim is reliant on Pam to get past the emotional barrier that's still there, to get to the point where he has full trust in her to enable him to tell her his deepest feelings, again.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
Pam wasn't in New York. He knew he had to return to Scranton to be with her. He knows he shouldn't have tried to heal his broken heart by trying to connect with Karen. He knows he never did, and he knows it's his fault for being a stumbling block in her life (it's not entirely his fault, but I think that he thinks that it is, i.e. guilty feelings). He knows he wants Pam in his life forever and he knows it's within his grasp. He's a little overwhelmed by it all the strange "new-ness" of it, but he's learning little by little that he can trust her with his feelings again.

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
Still pretty strong at this point in time. Pam chipped a little bit away from the barrier by announcing their "dating" to the camera crew and accepting his awkward advance to hold her hand "in public (camera)" but he's not going to jump into being the assertive one in the relationship any time soon. He's learned his lesson about how what it's like and how it feels, only to be rejected. He's not going to let that happen again, ever.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
I think JAM is moving just right. They are balancing each other out and that's a good way to move forward.


I think when Ryan left for New York, Jim naturally assumed his position at his old desk, closest to Pam, of his own accord. He wanted to be able to see her face as many times a day as he could sneak a look. If it wasn't Michael's intent to move him back there, Jim would have pranked him into believing that it was (with Pam's help, of course).

Thanks, SB, for once again getting inside Jim's head and describing it so well. I enjoy the PD, but your JP is my favorite.
Lenny9987
Amazing. I’m in total awe as always. How do you find the time to write that much? It shows how dedicated you are.

Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
I don’t think that Jim is too reliant on Pam. He may seem to be relying on her now but I think he’s still in awe at how independent she is now. He’d always been the one Pam relied on and he’s still trying to figure out where he fits (Pam’s ability to make herself happy with or without him could be a source for some of his insecurity in the relationship). It doesn’t mean he’s reliant on Pam, he’s just undecided as of yet.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
I think he’s learned how exhausting it is to try to be someone you’re not. Also, as you say, he feels guilty for having led Karen on, whether he intended to or not. This guilt probably helps him to identify with Pam and what she must have felt during and after Casino Night (he didn’t mean to hurt Karen but did, just as Pam didn’t mean to hurt him but did).

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
I don’t think they’re barriers so much as bouncy castles. The new relationship is slowly letting the air out of the bouncy castle so that it can be taken somewhere else (it hasn’t been popped though; they’re using the valve that was built into the castle).

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
I think they’re moving just right. As you said, Jim’s keeping them from moving too fast and Pam is keeping them from stopping entirely. The two have always had a good balance and compliment each other. If anything is going to disrupt the pace at which they move, I think it would be an outside force (not going to speculate what though).

I have to say, I was a little surprised that you didn’t make mention of the fact that Jim gives Pam’s lamp to Michael at the end of the episode. It probably doesn’t have anything to do with Jim and Pam (and I honestly think that the writers chose to have Pam get that lamp in particular as a set up for that final scene, because it resembles a trophy which is exactly how Michael would use it) but I would like to hear your take on it.

As for Jim returning to his new desk, I think it’s a combination of desk organization and his wanting to be able to see Pam again (also, does he really want to spend every day looking at Dwight and in the background seeing where Karen had been?). I think it was his idea to move back there and he probably explained it in terms of “I’m that much closer to your office Michael if you need me,” “we need to get rid of some of these extra desks now that so many people have left the company,” etc.

Also I have a theory about his going back to his old hair style instead of keeping the "big haircut." Even if he did like his new haircut, there's no way he would have been able to maintain it. The time needed to comb it nice and neat like that would have been time spent at home, away from Pam. He doesn't put effort into his appearance because he's eager to get to work to see her (his suits in season 3 also could be a stalling tactic; he was anxious about seeing her after what had happened and put off going to work in any way, even if it meant putting on a suit instead of throwing on a mere shirt and tie).
Lenny9987
QUOTE (Awkward @ Oct 4 2007, 04:11 AM) *
As a brief tangent I think the writers missed a great opportunity for a he said she said moment with Jim and Karen. Jim's brief and general description of the break-up is expected. He broke up with her, she was angry, and then she left. After a year developing JAREN I thought Karen deserved a chance to express her feeling over losing her man just as she thought he was finally hers. I would like to know if Karen landed on her feet and is moving on at least in her career. Also the question of exactly when Jim broke up with her could have been answered. Jim's vague TH saying he broke up with her after the interview and Karen not returning from New York until after the weekend does not create a clear timeline for me. I know most are completely satisfied with Jim's guilty explanation, but I am not convinced.

Have you seen the Summer Vacation videos they did? There's one with Karen talking about the break up. It's on the shows site somewhere or you can find it here What the Office did on their summer vacation
scrantonbranch
QUOTE (Awkward @ Oct 4 2007, 03:11 AM) *
Yes, but it is too soon to know if this is in a needy way. I think it is safe to say Jim is lost. He lived his life for years with only the dream of Pam, and now that he has her he is terrified Pam will not be enough to make him happy. Jim just spent a year trying to be happy by going his own way and he was miserable. Jim does not trust his instincts, causing him to continue to float without a fully functioning internal compass. North points to Pam, but he has no other direction or ambition to guide him if he is wrong once again. Pam is good for Jim and makes him truly happy, so over reliance on Pam is not a terrible thing for the moment, as he tries to find True Jim.

However, Jim still needs a dream outside and independent of Pam. A belief in almost anything other than, Pam can make him happy. The conference room discussion with religion seems to make this point. Pam and others offered their religious affiliations without concern for ridicule, yet Jim did not. Jim not wanting to discuss his religion is his choice, but he looked down at the table and avoided any eye contact with Michael during this discussion. He looked like a schoolboy hoping to avoid the teacher's attention. This is significant to Jim emotional state, because either he does not know what he believes or he is extremely uncomfortable with his beliefs. If Jim did not care he would simply make a joke of it. Pam has become a substitute for all these gaps in his life and this over reliance if used as a tool will benefit Jim and JAM in the future. If used as a crutch, over reliance will likely become needy and depressing.


Hi Awkward! This post is why I missed you so much this summer! I really love this answer and I think you've hit Jim's insecurity perfectly. I agree that Jim is a little too reliant on Pam to make him happy. He made a major shift in his life in The Job, but he didn't give himself any time to catch up to his decisions. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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The emotional barriers are strong in the beginning, as Jim is hiding behind Pam instead of from Pam. He made huge steps forward in recognizing Pam's need for more in the relationship and realizing in the end that he to wants more than the fantasy, he wants Pam. Barriers still remain, but only time will tell how much Jim will need them with Pam by his side.


Yay! I'm not the only one who sees Jim's emotional barriers. I love it that he has found the courage to simply be with Pam, but he has to work past the fantasy. He's living out his "crush" right now, which will hopefully pave the way for Jim to release his deeper emotions.

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Jim's return to his desk.

I think Jim is very pleased to be back in his old desk with Pam in easy eyeshot, but I think this is the result of office reorganization. When Karen and Ryan left at about the same time the office went back to the way it was before. Michael liked this format before the merger and would want to return to the status quo. Michael may have asked Jim which desk he preferred, but Michael made the decision before asking the question.


Woo-Hoo! You're first this time around! I'll be contacting you via PM in regards to your gift.

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As a brief tangent I think the writers missed a great opportunity for a he said she said moment with Jim and Karen. Jim's brief and general description of the break-up is expected. He broke up with her, she was angry, and then she left. After a year developing JAREN I thought Karen deserved a chance to express her feeling over losing her man just as she thought he was finally hers. I would like to know if Karen landed on her feet and is moving on at least in her career


I don't think we've heard the last of Karen. I have faith that they will tie up her storyline.

I'll hopefully be back later -- I have a class to teach!
officeobsessed
Excellent interpretation, SB. I logged off two minutes before you posted last night! This is going to be a quickie! twss.gif
Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
No. Jim is following Pam's lead to some extent, but he is not quite striking me as a puppy on a leash. He is clearly his own person with his own thoughts and he seems like he is both actively and happily participating in his life.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
I know it sounds cliché and saying it sounds cliché sounds……No matter how far you run, you will always run into yourself. Also, listen to your heart.

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?
While he's in the bubble, it seems that he is not holding back. Outside of the bubble, he's showing a little restraint, but that is probably more due to hiding his relationship from his co-workers than hiding his emotions from Pam.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
From my standpoint, I'm thrilled with how fast they are moving. I was not expecting them to be as far as they were last week and if they had been less, I would have been disappointed.

From their standpoint, they waited three long years for this. Why waste another minute!

Was Jim's return to his desk his idea or the result of furniture reorganization?
My guess is that as fast as Karen packed up and moved out, Jim packed up and moved desks. Not so much because he wanted a seat facing the receptionist (which of course, he does), but as symbolism that he was truly back. He never should have let Ryan keep the desk in the first place; but at that point, Jim wasn't really back so he didn't feel the need to fight for it. Taking back his desk is his way of showing everyone he's really back this time.
grief_bone
QUOTE (Lenny9987 @ Oct 4 2007, 07:52 AM) *
Amazing. I’m in total awe as always. How do you find the time to write that much? It shows how dedicated you are.

Ditto here, SB: you're a trouper! Not sure I'll have time to tackle the QTP's before tonight -- something called work ... what's that about? --, but a very insightful read. Even though I think I'm fairly empathic with Jim -- hey, I'm a guy --, your inaugural JP S4 analysis definitely opened my mind to some fresh perspectives.
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3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
I don’t think they’re barriers so much as bouncy castles. The new relationship is slowly letting the air out of the bouncy castle so that it can be taken somewhere else (it hasn’t been popped though; they’re using the valve that was built into the castle).

laugh.gif Niiiice! But they have to remember when they land, to try and land like eight year-olds. Those bouncy castles are not designed for adults.
ferriah
*squeals*

Yay new JP! Time to print and read!
smellsliketide
1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
Not too much … yet. Jim has never been the charge-ahead, domineering type, but with Old Pammy, he may still have been the more proactive one. Now, with FNB, who has evolved into a somewhat more take-charge type, Jim — approximately as take-charge as before — has fallen from slightly ahead of Pam to slightly behind. To a large extent, it’s a personality thing. But as time goes on, and their relationship will have to take more form and direction, he’ll have to be more of a factor in setting the tone.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
He’s learned he made the right choice in women … no-brainer there. He’s also probably learning, albeit slowly, that he’s more scared and tentative than he would have expected about moving forward with Pam. There's a lot more that he'll pick up on in the future .... But until then, this leads to the next question …

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?
Not as strong as I feared when we saw him pop in the door and ask Pam out. He seems to have gotten over the whirlwind of dumping Karen, turning down new job, going after the girl of his dreams, prep for Dunder Mifflin Infinity, etc. In large measure, he seems to have some of the same doubts I would have if I was in his spot: “Three years of pining and , now, Pam’s really going out with me?” “Is this really happening?” “Am I making her happy enough?” I think Jim’s barriers are probably only a little bigger than average; magnified normal barriers, with a little added doubts as residuals from Casino Night. Jim needs a lot of reassurances right now, which so far Pam has been good about. She knows the deal. But it’s still probably a surprise to himself that he isn’t all over Pam all the time, and that he’s got any hesitancy at all, about any of it.

They really need to have “the talk,” if they haven’t already.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
It doesn’t seem at all forced, nor overly tentative … seems about right to me. They are an unusual case; they have a stronger bond and more familiarity with one another than do most “new” couples, but also share a painful past that probably offsets those benefits to an extent. Considering all that, they are sort of creating their own blueprint of what’s right for them and their unusual "skillsets," for lack of a better term.

Was Jim's return to his desk his idea or the result of furniture reorganization?
Doesn’t look like much “reorganization” happened in most of the office, so my guess is that he simply changed desks. It was important to him in “The Merger” to have that desk, and the priceless view it affords, and is probably even more important now.
emilyhcole
SB that analysis was FABULOUS!!! Wow, you really have great insight on those two! I got giddy reading this! Congrats on getting it done in time, before the next episode! I'll be lurking and reading everyones QTPs.

Edit: WOO! 1300 posts! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Lenny9987)
Have you seen the Summer Vacation videos they did? There's one with Karen talking about the break up. It's on the shows site somewhere or you can find it here What the Office did on their summer vacation


Thank you Lenny9987. This answers the last part of my question. I was wrong on this one. I had not seen this video, but I knew Karen would have a sarcastic quip to fill in the blanks. I must say the choice of a water fountain is interesting. A couple meeting at a fountain usually implies a romantic occasion. Being dumped in what should have been a romantic moment probably added to Karen's emotional distress, thus including the location in her TH. Jim's choice of this location is likely necessity. Fountains tend to stand out in peoples minds, something about the unnatural movement of water, so Jim would know how to get to this location in a hurry.

I would still like to know if Karen used this rejection as fuel to further her career somewhere else, or if she is still emotionally stuck at that water fountain crying.

QUOTE (Lenny9987)
I think he's learned how exhausting it is to try to be someone you're not.


True. Also, Jim might find the emotional energy needed to discover True Jim to be exhausting.

QUOTE (Scrantonbranch)
Hi Awkward! This post is why I missed you so much this summer! I really love this answer and I think you've hit Jim's insecurity perfectly. I agree that Jim is a little too reliant on Pam to make him happy. He made a major shift in his life in The Job, but he didn't give himself any time to catch up to his decisions. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.


Scrantonbranch, you almost made me blush. It is good to be back with your always excellent analysis to dissect. I am also interested in the direction Jim's character will take. He will need to dig deep to find True Jim, and he will not be able to remain emotionally safe in his fantasy.

QUOTE (Scrantonbranch)
Woo-Hoo! You're first this time around! I'll be contacting you via PM in regards to your gift.


I have my fingers crossed for a Stanley nickel.

QUOTE (Grief bone)
laugh.gif Niiiice! But they have to remember when they land, to try and land like eight year-olds. Those bouncy castles are not designed for adults.


Once again you find the humorous truth and define it to perfection in a simply statement. You did the same with my ideas on Pam in the PD. Well done!
mgt_parables
I answering these before the PD, because I'm finding Jim to be so fascinating in this episode.
Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
Well, he did make a major turn in his life in response to her. He does seem to need constant interaction with her to remind himself that this is, indeed, REAL. He also is drawn to her warmth, and he is slowly opening his heart up under that warmth. (reminds me of how flowers open up in the morning sun)

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
The being with Pam is all he thought it might be, and that he belonged with Pam, not with Karen. He can't stop smiling.

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?
Pretty strong. He is still holding his heart back, afraid to fully give it to Pam. He still remembers that the lost time he offered his heart to her, she spurned it. He needs her reassurance, he needs her to take the emotional lead, he does need the bubble to give him time to trust the relationship.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
Just right. I love the sweetness of it. Although I like smut as much as the next girl (yes, I know this is TV) - I think that they are hitting just the right notes with how they are letting their relationship evolve. It is just too cute.

The desk question: without a doubt, Jim claimed his old desk. He tried to get it back from Ryan when he came back from Stamford. He would not hesitate to get it back with Ryan and Karen both gone. That may be why Karen left so quickly…… how could she look at their glowing faces all day. That would make her crazy.
scrantonbranch
I just lost another huge post, where I responded to three different people! What the heck! Instead of posting my response it take me back to the main menu for the entire NBC message board. I'm going to try and respond again, but my answers will be much shorter! mad.gif

Congrats to Awkward for winning this week's giveaway. I totally agree that Jim's migration back to his desk is the result of furniture reorg. I want to believe it was his choice, but the paper boxes in place of his S3 desk tell the story.

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He's reliant on her to help him figure out who FNB is, to know her. He's knows the Pam of S2 inside and out, but this new FNB is exciting, yet unfamiliar to him. He is reliant on her to help him understand better who she's become in the past year. She's shown him how she can take care of herself and she doesn't need him to rescue her anymore (organizing the trip to visit Meredith/setting up carpooling/confronting Michael about his "dangling participle").


Hey justonce! The dangling "participle scene" scene in particular struck me. Jim really doesn't know who FNB is, and he just plain puzzled. He is totally reliant on Pam to show him this new person. He has to learn how to relate to her on a totally new level. His role in the relationship has changed and it's going to take some time to adjust.

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Still pretty strong at this point in time. Pam chipped a little bit away from the barrier by announcing their "dating" to the camera crew and accepting his awkward advance to hold her hand "in public (camera)" but he's not going to jump into being the assertive one in the relationship any time soon. He's learned his lesson about how what it's like and how it feels, only to be rejected. He's not going to let that happen again, ever.


Agreed. I'm actually really enjoying the fact that Pam is taking the lead role in the relationship. Jim carried JAM for years and it led to nothing but pain for him. It's Pam's turn to carry the weight until Jim feels safe enough to release his deeper emotions.

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Thanks, SB, for once again getting inside Jim's head and describing it so well. I enjoy the PD, but your JP is my favorite.


Thanks for the kind words. I love Pam, but I always have more fun with Jim. I guess it shows. blush.gif

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Amazing. I’m in total awe as always. How do you find the time to write that much? It shows how dedicated you are.


Thanks Lenny9987! Crazy people always find time for their passion. wink.gif

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I think he’s learned how exhausting it is to try to be someone you’re not. Also, as you say, he feels guilty for having led Karen on, whether he intended to or not. This guilt probably helps him to identify with Pam and what she must have felt during and after Casino Night (he didn’t mean to hurt Karen but did, just as Pam didn’t mean to hurt him but did).


Oh, this is good! I think to a certain extent Jim knows why Pam rejected him on CN. It doesn't make it hurt any less, but he can see her point of view in that situation. He knows she didn't mean to hurt him, but the fear remains. It was devastating blow regardless of whether she meant to do it. As a result, Jim is going to be a little shy about letting his emotions out again. Hopefully, the bubble will continue to help Jim relax his fears enough for Pam to show him she won't hurt him again.

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I don’t think they’re barriers so much as bouncy castles. The new relationship is slowly letting the air out of the bouncy castle so that it can be taken somewhere else (it hasn’t been popped though; they’re using the valve that was built into the castle).


This is a great analogy, but I'm sticking with barriers. Jim has blocked his emotions in varying degrees since Season 1. It's an inherent personality trait that isn't just going to go away after a yogurt lid memo. Especially, after the devastation of CN. Jim may be allowing himself to explore many of his feelings for Pam, but he continues to block the "big ones." It's going to take a little time for him fell safe enough to let Pam see those emotions again. The bubble helps him do this as spending time with Pam helps him gain trust in her on a daily basis.

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I have to say, I was a little surprised that you didn’t make mention of the fact that Jim gives Pam’s lamp to Michael at the end of the episode. It probably doesn’t have anything to do with Jim and Pam (and I honestly think that the writers chose to have Pam get that lamp in particular as a set up for that final scene, because it resembles a trophy which is exactly how Michael would use it) but I would like to hear your take on it.


Chalk it up to a long night! My senses dull after 5 hours straight of writing! Handing the lamp to Michael may link to an old concept from the S3 threads. Perhaps, Jim and Pam need a third party to help them emerge from the bubble and connect on a deeper and more honest level. They are happily inside the bubble, but maybe someone outside the bubble is needed to get them back down to the ground.

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Also I have a theory about his going back to his old hair style instead of keeping the "big haircut." Even if he did like his new haircut, there's no way he would have been able to maintain it. The time needed to comb it nice and neat like that would have been time spent at home, away from Pam.


Too cute! However, I think Jim's hair is back to normal because it's just who he is. His outward appearance is gradually morphing back to Season 1 and 2 Jim, right down to the rolled up sleeves. I swore I saw him wearing Dockers instead of dress slacks in the "dangling participle" scene, but I can't say for sure.
scrantonbranch
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While he's in the bubble, it seems that he is not holding back. Outside of the bubble, he's showing a little restraint, but that is probably more due to hiding his relationship from his co-workers than hiding his emotions from Pam.


Hey OO! Until I hear the words "I love you" come out of Jim's mouth I will hold to the concept that he is holding back inside the bubble! There wasn't a single "look" from Jim during Fun Run. His face was genuinely happy to be with Pam, but it lacked emotional depth. That's why I argued that he is living out his "crush" rather than complete emotional honesty. He is allowing himself to be smitten with Pam and relationship, but nothing deeper than that. He doesn't feel safe enough to let those emotions come out and play just yet.

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Ditto here, SB: you're a trouper! Not sure I'll have time to tackle the QTP's before tonight -- something called work ... what's that about? --, but a very insightful read. Even though I think I'm fairly empathic with Jim -- hey, I'm a guy --, your inaugural JP S4 analysis definitely opened my mind to some fresh perspectives.


Hey grief bone! Work? Hmmmmm interesting concept. tongue.gif I'm glad you enjoyed the update, thanks for reading.

Hopefully, I'll get this week's update done in a more timely manner. I have a much better game plan in place for tonight's episode. We'll see if it works. happy.gif

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In large measure, he seems to have some of the same doubts I would have if I was in his spot: “Three years of pining and , now, Pam’s really going out with me?” “Is this really happening?” “Am I making her happy enough?” I think Jim’s barriers are probably only a little bigger than average; magnified normal barriers, with a little added doubts as residuals from Casino Night. Jim needs a lot of reassurances right now, which so far Pam has been good about.


Hi smellsliketide! This is a really great obvservation. Jim is a little awestruck and that is creating barriers that based on uncertainty and doubt. I suspect these barriers will fall easily once the relationship strengthens a little bit more. The barriers left over from CN are the ones that have me worried. They'll be a little tougher to knock down, primarily because he's the one that has to take them down. He's only been able to do this on one occasion (CN) and that led to disasterous results. It's going to take a lot of courage and reassurance from Pam to convince Jim to remove those barriers. Jim's basic fear of getting hurt is his biggest hurdle.

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SB that analysis was FABULOUS!!! Wow, you really have great insight on those two! I got giddy reading this! Congrats on getting it done in time, before the next episode! I'll be lurking and reading everyones QTPs.

Edit: WOO! 1300 posts!


Thanks Famous Grilled Cheese! Congrats on 1300! biggrin.gif
scrantonbranch
Ahhhhh! I have run out of time! I have to get off the boards before posts from tonight's episode spoil me! Please know I read everyone's post and loved every word. I wasn't expecting QTP answers, given the very short time frame. It was a pleasant surprise this morning! Hopefully, my game plan for tonight will have the updates up for both the PD and JP for tonight's episode in a more timely fashion. I want to be able to discuss QTP answers a little more in depth this time around. smile.gif Jim is a fascinating character that deserves more than one day of discussion.
grief_bone
QUOTE (Awkward @ Oct 4 2007, 03:26 PM) *
Once again you find the humorous truth and define it to perfection in a simply statement. You did the same with my ideas on Pam in the PD. Well done!

Thnx Awkward! Through much cringe-worthy trial-and-error, I've learned the less I say, the more sense I seem to make. huh.gif

So, with that nugget of self-awareness, I'll strive for brevity in my answers to the QTP:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
In many ways, Jim has always relied on Pam: to relieve his boredom at DM, have something / someone to look fwd to, etc. Now he's relying on her to take the lead in the relationship, or be the pace-setter so to speak. Nothing wrong with that, since she has a clearer view. However, he still needs to define himself outside of PB&J, or else, riding shotgun to FNB may not be enough to keep the JAM train happily on track.
2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
That he is who he is: happiest being a low-key, subtle-but-meaningful, stay-close-to-home-and-friends-and-Pam small town guy (and NOT a big city, grand gesture, "hey, look at me ... I'm a wunderkind", kind of guy).
3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
Definitely wary in the once-bitten, twice-shy / don't get burned again vein, however, it's also a "willing suspension of disbelief" barrier ... i.e. "can this be for real?" And no matter his barriers, so far FNB seems to know how to overcome them: e.g. "we're dating!" <POP> ; holding hands <WOBBLE>; "I'm still having a nice day" <TIMBERRRR> ...
4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
Too slow would be not dating, slumming in the friend zone; too fast = engaged, shacking up. So they've moved from "then, it's a date" to "we're dating" to "it's going really great" ... seems right on schedule to arrive at the "we're in looooove" station! wink.gif

Re: the Return to DOL
He's baaaaack! And after his epiphany during the Job interview, there was no way (both literally or symbolically) he could continue to turn his back on Pam & everything she meant (means) to him. Furniture re-org was the excuse, but he would have found his way there anyways.

Woohoo! Just a few more hours 'til DMI on the wet coast! Gotta get my DVD-R programmed ... ciao!
Lenny9987
This week's analysis, is going to be sooooo good. Lot's going on with Jim. I can't wait SB. happy.gif I was giddy through most of the episode. My roommate was staring at me funny and everything.
scrantonbranch
QUOTE (Lenny9987 @ Oct 4 2007, 09:09 PM) *
This week's analysis, is going to be sooooo good. Lot's going on with Jim. I can't wait SB. happy.gif I was giddy through most of the episode. My roommate was staring at me funny and everything.


I am going to have so much fun with this episode. smile.gif Jellybeans are back! That whole scene is amazing. I can't wait to pick it apart.
Pam_Halpert_1
So these are just thoughts, and I have not yet seen last nights episode so I know nothing about what happened. Just had these thoughts written on my computer and thought I should share them.


1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
I am going to go with yes on this one. To what extent I am not sure, but it is obvious that Jim is putting a lot on to Pam. He has her on a petal stool and because she is FNB the more awesome she gets the more Jim is going to rely on her to do things ie. Make him happy; make him feel like he belongs. It is almost as if his identity is starting to become wrapped up in how much Pam makes him feel. The problem with this is that you can never completely rely on other human for anything.. and when it comes to making you feel a certain way no human is going to be perfect…. Once Pam hit the first “human speed bump” (meaning she gets mad at him or something else having to do with relationships) it will be interesting to see if Jim blows it out of proportion because he was relying on her to much.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
He knows that he is happier at Scranton with the people he is around at that office. He also knows how he can change and that is not always a good thing. Also he knows that he was just hiding his feelings not just for Pam but about most everything associated with Scranton.

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
I am going to say that they are not there at the moment because of his Pam bubble, but I am sure once he starts to feel another emotion other then happiness he will throw them back up. It will be interesting to see what happens when Karen comes around.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
Too fast. They need to slow it down or they are going to hit that speed bump going to fast and wreck their “car.”

I am going to say that right now they are in this little happy bubble where nothing can affect them. A honeymoon period, but once something happens and you know it will, that will be the true test of not only their relationship but also where Jim and Pam are emotionally and mentally. Once Jim has to deal with a true problem then we will see where he is….
emilyhcole
I can't wait for your analyses this week! I got the feeling that Jim and Pam have talked about the past and their relationship a little more, but I'm really excited to see what your take is SB! Good luck!
Fun_Run
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I am going to have so much fun with this episode. Jellybeans are back! That whole scene is amazing. I can't wait to pick it apart.


And I can't wait either, SB. I loved this episode!

BTW, you did an amazing job of last week's JP & PD. With all of these one-hour episodes, you definitely deserve a promotion! rolleyes.gif
emilyhcole
^^^ Ya ITA! SB you should be the one receiving the prizes!
mybestfriend
Late to the party, RL getting in the way, but thought I'd offer some short answers anyway. Thanks SB for the awesomeness.

Was Jim’s return to his desk his idea or the result of furniture reorganization? If you’ve already won this game, please allow others to have a chance.

With no chance of winning, I still will weigh in and say it was of his own volition. He could have taken that desk back for months but it was timed to occur after the date. He finally came all the way back like we all "wished he would."

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?

This is a tough question as what we've seen so far would make it look that way. BUT, I think at least in part it is the bubble showing. He's in a little bit of heaven right now. Jim has pined for Pam for three years and now she is his steady squeeze. So I think he'll be less dependent as time passes. On the other hand, he did let Karen call a lot of the shots, so perhaps he is a reliant kind of guy. Not saying I don't love my Jim, but he is pliable twss.gif

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?

I truly haven't seen enough of Jim interacting with anyone to get a read on this yet. He seems very S2 to me so rather than moving forward, he seems to have reverted but in a good way. So perhaps his biggest learning right now is that coming back was worth it. He's smiling, charming, amiable, and in love.

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?

They are melting before our very eyes.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?

Oh I think it's going just fine.
Miss_Teapot
Who's still swooning from their generous dose of JAM last nite? THIS GIRL!!

Who's also enjoying it while it lasts because it's all just too good to be true? Um yeah. This girl.

But anyway, on the upswing!! We're being positive!


Questions to Ponder:
1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
I don't think so. I really think that so far, the whole JAM new relationship seems very healthy. Jim is clearly in love with Pam, and falling in love with her all over again now that it's begun to sink in that they're together. Too reliant? Nah. I think that maybe in time that COULD be a problem, but so far, it's not.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
That he doesn't need a big city or a big job or the "cool" girlfriend to make him happy. He just needs a job that pays the bills, open opportunities for pranks, and Pam. Jim is a pretty easygoing, easy to please guy in this respect.

3) How strong are Jim’s emotional barriers?
I agree with mybestfriend... they are melting. Jim loved Pam before. But he's falling hard for her now. I think there are some remnants of those barriers that may come out later, but for right now, good old fashioned love is really winning out. And it's so much fun to watch.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?

Just right. Perfect. Kids, pay attention.
Collapsing_Star
Finally, I'm able to get to a computer that allows me to get on the boards. I've watched the episode twice (and liked it much better the second time, as usual). My primary observation is that Jim seems pretty secure and comfortable. I know, I know, we're all waiting for the divisive moment, the speed bump, the trouble. Yeah, it could happen at any time but Jim has endured so much to be with Pam that I think it would have to be something big to cause a real crisis. A few quick observations from last night.

* Jim was the one who confessed to everyone that he and Pam are dating (much to Pam's excitement in the background). She outed their relationship to the cameras and he did to their co-workers. Seems like they're both secure about where they're headed. Just wanted to keep it private.

* Pam said she didn't want to speak for Jim but she was willing to sign an HR document that she and Jim are in a relationship. Jim seemed willing as well. Toby's objections aside, they were ready to formalize it in the eyes of Dunder Mifflin.

* They're sarcastic "is the magic gone?" exchange demonstrated that they still get each other on non-romantic levels. Their humor is connecting strongly and they can play with each other teasingly.

* The return of the air high five.

* I don't think he envies Ryan at all. (I agree with OO that Jim may reach a point of intolerance regarding Ryan's smugness though.) I think Ryan is everything that Jim never wanted to be. In a way, Pam saved him and for that, he may be exceptionally grateful. Look at how the scene is set up. Ryan is yukking it up with Andy and Kevin while Jim sits quietly on the side. It's just not a vibe he connects with.

* When combined with his concluding TH, it certainly appears that Jim thinks he made the best choice.

I'm not saying that everything will be perfect for eternity. After all, I predicted that the writers would use the Jim and Pam secretly dating angle for a while. Yeah, it only took about three minutes for that call to explode. (By the way, my next prediction is that I won't be making further predictions.) I just think that Jim and Pam should get to enjoy the ride after years of confusion, internal conflict and miscommunication. I want to see them push each other toward their potentials. All along, that's what I've been hoping for in S4.
officeobsessed
Great post, CS. You perfectly summed up everything I am thinking and thanks for the shout out. So for now, I'm just going to say; ^^^What he said, and wait patiently for scrantonbranch's analysis. smile.gif
Lenny9987
QUOTE (OfficeObsessed @ Oct 5 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Great post, CS. You perfectly summed up everything I am thinking and thanks for the shout out. So for now, I'm just going to say; ^^^What he said, and wait patiently for scrantonbranch's analysis. smile.gif

Ditto. Those were the words I was unable to put together after watching it (mostly because I was I huge pile of "Awwwww" by the end of the episode; my roommate can atest to the fact that I teared up a little when Jim said that "Maybe he [Ryan] can't get any girl he wants").

Thursdays can't come soon enough. Analyzing it in the mean time definitely helps though.
BlueJeanBaby05
I know I'm a little late on answering these, but I thought I would give them a go anyway. I also think most of these questions are still relevant, despite the new episode, but I'm going to try and answer them from the perspective of only watching Fun Run. Also, I'm not taking a lot of time to "Ponder" these questions. I'm going to just go with my gut reaction.


Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
I wouldn't say too reliant. Not this early in the relationship. I think he's just feeling it out. There's a lot of newness here. There's the newness of being in a relationship with the woman of his dreams, rather than just being her friend and admiring from afar. There's also the newness of Fancy New Beesly. Also, being so distant from Pam all last season, he does just need to re-familiarize himself with her. Pam may know who Jim is, because he essentially is returning to his old-self, but Jim isn't quite so sure who Pam is these days. I believe he believes that the essential Pam is still in there, but there definitely is some new stuff too. So, this may cause him to be a little unassured and tentative.

However, he does take her hand and that was initiated by him. So, I don't think the need for re-assurance will last. (And I have to respectively disagree in that I just don't see any tentativeness when he does take her hand. To me, it looked like a very natural thing for him to do there and I don't think he even gave much thought to it).

And like I said in the PD, I think this is typical behavior of any new relationship. He is still learning what the boundaries are, and when and what is acceptable relationship behavior for Pam. I actually prefer to view this part of the relationship as the gathering of information. Jim is taking mental notes and gathering information for later use. He's observing so he can make more educated decisions later on. Once he becomes more comfortable, relaxed and used to the situation he will be more likely to take the lead more often.

(I don't know, maybe this isn't something that everyone does, but I definitely know this is something that I do. When forming a relationship with someone, I don't quickly go off my instincts. I collect information, assess the situation and learn what is appropriate behavior for that person and then use that best to our relationship's advantage. It isn't until I've been with around the person for a while that I run more on instincts and take the lead when necessary.)

Ok, longer answer to this question than I originally intended. Moving on.


2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
I loved griefbone's answer to this, by the way!

I think he learned that he didn't need to be anybody other than himself.

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?

I don't think they are that strong. Right now they are protecting him until he's comfortable and ready to let them go at which point they will fizzle.

Doesn't everyone have some sort of emotional barrier when they are just getting to know someone? Or does everyone let it all out at once?

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
I think it's just right. Like I keep saying, they really just feel like a typical new couple at this point. I feel like I'm watching two friends who have been dating each other for about two months

(Actually, it takes me back to the two-month dating period and makes me smile at all that innocence and newness, I kind of miss that)
emilyhcole
QUOTE (Collapsing Star @ Oct 5 2007, 10:52 PM) *
Finally, I'm able to get to a computer that allows me to get on the boards. I've watched the episode twice (and liked it much better the second time, as usual). My primary observation is that Jim seems pretty secure and comfortable. I know, I know, we're all waiting for the divisive moment, the speed bump, the trouble. Yeah, it could happen at any time but Jim has endured so much to be with Pam that I think it would have to be something big to cause a real crisis. A few quick observations from last night.

* Jim was the one who confessed to everyone that he and Pam are dating (much to Pam's excitement in the background). She outed their relationship to the cameras and he did to their co-workers. Seems like they're both secure about where they're headed. Just wanted to keep it private.

* Pam said she didn't want to speak for Jim but she was willing to sign an HR document that she and Jim are in a relationship. Jim seemed willing as well. Toby's objections aside, they were ready to formalize it in the eyes of Dunder Mifflin.

* They're sarcastic "is the magic gone?" exchange demonstrated that they still get each other on non-romantic levels. Their humor is connecting strongly and they can play with each other teasingly.

* The return of the air high five.

* I don't think he envies Ryan at all. (I agree with OO that Jim may reach a point of intolerance regarding Ryan's smugness though.) I think Ryan is everything that Jim never wanted to be. In a way, Pam saved him and for that, he may be exceptionally grateful. Look at how the scene is set up. Ryan is yukking it up with Andy and Kevin while Jim sits quietly on the side. It's just not a vibe he connects with.

* When combined with his concluding TH, it certainly appears that Jim thinks he made the best choice.

I'm not saying that everything will be perfect for eternity. After all, I predicted that the writers would use the Jim and Pam secretly dating angle for a while. Yeah, it only took about three minutes for that call to explode. (By the way, my next prediction is that I won't be making further predictions.) I just think that Jim and Pam should get to enjoy the ride after years of confusion, internal conflict and miscommunication. I want to see them push each other toward their potentials. All along, that's what I've been hoping for in S4.

I have to say this is an excellent post and I totally agree with you. CS you really voiced what I was thinking. Your posts are always really good. smile.gif
BlueJeanBaby05
QUOTE (Collapsing Star @ Oct 5 2007, 09:52 PM) *
* I don't think he envies Ryan at all. (I agree with OO that Jim may reach a point of intolerance regarding Ryan's smugness though.) I think Ryan is everything that Jim never wanted to be. In a way, Pam saved him and for that, he may be exceptionally grateful. Look at how the scene is set up. Ryan is yukking it up with Andy and Kevin while Jim sits quietly on the side. It's just not a vibe he connects with.


I love the whole post CS, but I particularly like this part. I think it pinpoints why I love Jim and have very little respect for Ryan after the DMI episode. I, like Jim, just don't connect to that vibe. In fact, I tend to get annoyed with it, because it comes off as so fake to me, and very little bugs me more than fake-ness. Ryan appears to be showing off for Kevin and Andy, because for some reason he needs their approval to say he's cool (or whatever). So, I think that scene re-establishes that Jim doesn't feel the need to prove himself to anyone.
officerules07
QUOTE (scrantonbranch @ Oct 4 2007, 12:02 AM) *
Sorry this is so late! Hour-long episodes take me forever to pick apart! It's going to be like this for the next few weeks, but I will do my best to keep both the PD and JP updated before each new episode airs. I realize there isn't much time to delve into the QTP, but I'd still love to see what everyone thinks. If you can't leave specific answers, random thoughts and observations are equally appreciated. Let me know what you think of the analysis. Positive responses are appreciated just as much as posts that challenge my arguments.

As always, thanks SB for doing this! I didn't get a chance to respond before DMI & then went out of town, but I didn't want to miss a week so here I am. Better late than never. I absolutely LOVED the update - it made me so happy. I'm so glad Jim is happy, even if he is still a little tentative about some aspects of their relationship. SO I have no challenges & I'm sorry if you get more challenges than agreements. For me, if I have no comments, it means I totally agree!

*Office Goodie Giveaway - Be the first to respond to this question and I have a gift for you! Was Jim's return to his desk his idea or the result of furniture reorganization? If you've already won this game, please allow others to have a chance.
I'm sure someone else has already won, but I'll play anyway. I think it was a little of both, but mostly b/c he wanted to be back there. He likes looking at Pam again, doesn't like his back to the door, likes his back to Michael, so it's all good. With Ryan & Karen leaving, it made sense.

Questions to Ponder:

1) Is Jim too reliant on Pam?
I don't think so. He's still trying to find himself, but I don't feel like he's hiding behind Pam or their relationship in the process.

2) What has Jim learned about himself since returning from New York?
I think he's remembering why he fell in love w/ Pam in the first place w/ less risks this time - he's getting all of her not just during the day or little glimpses at a time. He's also realizing why he needs her in his life - she's his best friend; he's comfortable around her; they get each other; she makes him laugh; etc. She is SO different from Karen & everything is different b/t them this time around. He probably thinks he needs to pinch himself all the time b/c, like you said, all of his dreams are coming true.

3) How strong are Jim's emotional barriers?
Pretty strong, but not as strong as his wall in S3. With every glance, sweet word, kiss, hand hold, date, etc., the barrier weakens. I'm sure something will happen at some point where Pam calls him out on his barriers & asks him why he's still holding her a little at arms' length, but I think that will force him to totally commit to them & let go of the past. As long as the bubble is in place (which makes so much more sense now that I've read both Pam & Jim's viewpoints of it), he doesn't have to deal w/ every little aspect of it.

4) Is JAM moving too slow, too fast or just right?
I really didn't think they would be this far along at this point, but now that I've seen them in action I think they're just right. I love that Pam is so encouraging to Jim & that he loves every bit of it. They need to keep going at this pace for a while. I hope we get to see either Pam say 'I love you' or their 'relationship' talk - that would be interesting!

I feel like my QTPs are a little off, so forgive me. It may take me a while to come back. Hahahaha...
Carnivale_HBO
Loved the analysis SB! I still need to read more of you guys' wonderful QTP answers, but so far ITA smile.gif!
Recorderalways
Hi SB, I've read and thought, and read and thought....and read and thought some more. Thank you for your always thought-provoking analysis.

I am reading Jim from a totally different angle this season. All his interactions with Pam in Fun Run speak to me of a man who knows his woman is....ummm.....very happy. IMHO, the conference room "we're caught" interaction is not Jim responding to the fact that his relationship has now been labeled, but that Pam would label it "dating" (Watch his classic eyebrows-up, head moving back expression of surprise). As soon as she says that, I think the hand-over-mouth, the blush, the corn-eating grin....is all evidence of a man thinking: "so THAT'S what they call 'dating' these days, huh?". He's lost in thought. blush.gif To me, he only is pulled away from these musings by Pam's "right"? And he states "It's going really great" as one big, OBVIOUS statement for both of them. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Since this is my angle that I can't seem to shake, I see every interaction differently. The hand-hold to me, is more "evidence of intimacy". He knew right where her hand was; he knew just how to hold it; and most convincingly, neither one of them looked at the other with surprise as he did it. It wasn't "OH! Our first hand-hold!". It looked almost old-hat to me.

I've also noticed that in both Fun Run and DMI, he tones down the relationship in front of others (to Michael, in DMI: "We've only been dating for a couple of months") but when 'alone' with Pam or in a TH, the truth comes out. Again in his TH after Ryan hits on her, there is that eye-sparkling smugness: "I guess he can't have....ANY....girl he wants". Jim's got her. And he knows it, in the way men know it. (And it's none of our business how he knows it laugh.gif )


Anyway, I'll maybe attempt the QTP later. I appreciate that you don't mind differences of opinion, SB, and that's why I have the courage to post this (I ran through some hot coals first wink.gif ). I respect you way too much to debate, though. I'll read any response you have for me and leave it at that. smile.gif
officeobsessed
Recorderalways, great post. I think that I see Jim more from your perspective as well.

One thing I want to ask you, and everyone in the circle, about is above you mentioned the scene where Jim says, to Michael, in