Thanks to the Reel for the heads up about this epi title. Although, epi title is all we have for now.
Info from:
http://www.sidesexpress.com/se_index.cfm?t...ocid=2&pt=1
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Full Version: "Self-Made" 11/15 G&E epi
Thanks to the Reel and their source here is the full epi information.
Posted 9.27.07
LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT
"Self-Made"
Episodic
UNIVERSAL NETWORKS
TELEVISION
USA 1 HOUR EPISODIC
EPISODE 7: "Self-Made"
Executive Producers: Dick Wolf, Warren
Leight, Norberto Barba, Peter Jankowski
Director: Ken Girotti
Story: Warren Leight & Jerome Hairston
Teleplay: Jerome Hairston
Casting Director: Kimberly Hope
Casting Associate: Anne Davison
Shoot Dates: October 4 - 16, 2007
Location: New York
PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT ANY ACTORS WHO HAVE ALREADY WORKED
ON "CRIMINAL INTENT" LAST SEASON (2006–2007).
ALL ACTORS MUST BE AVAILABLE TO WORK ENTIRE SHOOT – THE
SCHEDULE IS LIKELY TO CHANGE. WE CANNOT WORK AROUND OTHER
FILM SCHEDULES AND WE CANNOT GUARANTEE ACTORS FOR AN 8 P.M.
CURTAIN.
CAST: VINCENT D’ONOFRIO, KATHRYN ERBE, ERIC BOGOSIAN
SEASON 7 – EPISODE 7 – “SELF-MADE”
SEEKING:
[TJ HAWKINS] -Early 30s. Best-selling author and infamous bad boy. The Colin Farrell
of the book world. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after one of his fellow-writers is
the victim of a violent crime. (GUEST LEAD)
[LIONEL SHAW]- 60s. Distinguished man. Author of novel that was a best-seller in the
1960s. Hasn’t had an equivalent success since then but makes a nice living on the lecture
circuit and is a respected writing teacher and mentor to a number of up-and-coming
writers. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after a protégé of his is the victim of a violent crime. (GUEST LEAD)
[GARETH WISE]-40s. Slick literary agent with a reputation for crossing the line with aspiring female writers. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after a young writer he has recently taken an interest in is a victim of a violent crime. (SUPPORTING)
[D TOUR] -20s. African-American man. A small-time pot dealer, he finds himself in over his head when he angers a rival drug posse. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES when a recent violent crime is connected to him and his new enemies. (SUPPORTING)
[ARIANA WRIGHT]- Late 40s-50s. Legendary editor-in-chief of a powerful publishing house. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after one of her employees is the victim of a violent crime. (SUPPORTING)
[KIRA DANIELS]- 20s. African-American woman. Pretty. After receiving a scholarship to a private school and to Bryn Mawr, aspiring writer Kira lands herself a job as assistant to legendary editor Ariana Wright. Just when things are looking brightest for Kira’s future, a person from her past may have had a hand in ending her career for good. (Several scenes in teaser)
[PAIGE ALLEN]- 20s. Upper east side waif. Assistant at Ariana Wright’s publishing house. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after she discovers that a co-worker is a victim of a violent crime. (2 scenes)
[IDA]- 50s. African-American woman. West Indian accent. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about her murdered daughter’s acquaintances. (1 scene)
[CHAYNE]- 19 years old. African-American man. Fit. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about his sister’s acquaintances after she is a victim of a violent crime. (1 scene)
[SHARON ADAMS]- Mid 30s. African-American. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about her relationship with literary agent Gareth Wise and his impact on the current state
of her writing career. (1 scene)
[CHAD] -20s. Head animator at an animation studio in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about the behavior and background of one of his employees. (1 scene)
[DET. WILLIS]- 40s. African-American man. Walks GOREN and EAMES through the crime scene. (1 scene)
[CONSTANCE]- Late 40s-50s. Asian-American woman. Defense lawyer representing Gareth Wise when he is questioned by GOREN and EAMES. Old school hard ***. (1 scene)
[D TOUR’S MOTHER] -40s. African-American woman. Cries out for help when her son is left beaten and seriously injured. (1 line)
[DRIVER] 20s. African-American man. Makes a verbal threat to D Tour as he drives by. (1 line)
[AMOS] -30s and older. Beatnik writer. One of Lionel Shaw’s students. (2 lines)
[TOM]- 20s. Caucasian. Assistant to powerful literary agent and demanding and difficult boss, Gareth Wise. (1 line) tr
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Posted 9.27.07
LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT
"Self-Made"
Episodic
UNIVERSAL NETWORKS
TELEVISION
USA 1 HOUR EPISODIC
EPISODE 7: "Self-Made"
Executive Producers: Dick Wolf, Warren
Leight, Norberto Barba, Peter Jankowski
Director: Ken Girotti
Story: Warren Leight & Jerome Hairston
Teleplay: Jerome Hairston
Casting Director: Kimberly Hope
Casting Associate: Anne Davison
Shoot Dates: October 4 - 16, 2007
Location: New York
PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT ANY ACTORS WHO HAVE ALREADY WORKED
ON "CRIMINAL INTENT" LAST SEASON (2006–2007).
ALL ACTORS MUST BE AVAILABLE TO WORK ENTIRE SHOOT – THE
SCHEDULE IS LIKELY TO CHANGE. WE CANNOT WORK AROUND OTHER
FILM SCHEDULES AND WE CANNOT GUARANTEE ACTORS FOR AN 8 P.M.
CURTAIN.
CAST: VINCENT D’ONOFRIO, KATHRYN ERBE, ERIC BOGOSIAN
SEASON 7 – EPISODE 7 – “SELF-MADE”
SEEKING:
[TJ HAWKINS] -Early 30s. Best-selling author and infamous bad boy. The Colin Farrell
of the book world. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after one of his fellow-writers is
the victim of a violent crime. (GUEST LEAD)
[LIONEL SHAW]- 60s. Distinguished man. Author of novel that was a best-seller in the
1960s. Hasn’t had an equivalent success since then but makes a nice living on the lecture
circuit and is a respected writing teacher and mentor to a number of up-and-coming
writers. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after a protégé of his is the victim of a violent crime. (GUEST LEAD)
[GARETH WISE]-40s. Slick literary agent with a reputation for crossing the line with aspiring female writers. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after a young writer he has recently taken an interest in is a victim of a violent crime. (SUPPORTING)
[D TOUR] -20s. African-American man. A small-time pot dealer, he finds himself in over his head when he angers a rival drug posse. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES when a recent violent crime is connected to him and his new enemies. (SUPPORTING)
[ARIANA WRIGHT]- Late 40s-50s. Legendary editor-in-chief of a powerful publishing house. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after one of her employees is the victim of a violent crime. (SUPPORTING)
[KIRA DANIELS]- 20s. African-American woman. Pretty. After receiving a scholarship to a private school and to Bryn Mawr, aspiring writer Kira lands herself a job as assistant to legendary editor Ariana Wright. Just when things are looking brightest for Kira’s future, a person from her past may have had a hand in ending her career for good. (Several scenes in teaser)
[PAIGE ALLEN]- 20s. Upper east side waif. Assistant at Ariana Wright’s publishing house. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES after she discovers that a co-worker is a victim of a violent crime. (2 scenes)
[IDA]- 50s. African-American woman. West Indian accent. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about her murdered daughter’s acquaintances. (1 scene)
[CHAYNE]- 19 years old. African-American man. Fit. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about his sister’s acquaintances after she is a victim of a violent crime. (1 scene)
[SHARON ADAMS]- Mid 30s. African-American. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about her relationship with literary agent Gareth Wise and his impact on the current state
of her writing career. (1 scene)
[CHAD] -20s. Head animator at an animation studio in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Questioned by GOREN and EAMES about the behavior and background of one of his employees. (1 scene)
[DET. WILLIS]- 40s. African-American man. Walks GOREN and EAMES through the crime scene. (1 scene)
[CONSTANCE]- Late 40s-50s. Asian-American woman. Defense lawyer representing Gareth Wise when he is questioned by GOREN and EAMES. Old school hard ***. (1 scene)
[D TOUR’S MOTHER] -40s. African-American woman. Cries out for help when her son is left beaten and seriously injured. (1 line)
[DRIVER] 20s. African-American man. Makes a verbal threat to D Tour as he drives by. (1 line)
[AMOS] -30s and older. Beatnik writer. One of Lionel Shaw’s students. (2 lines)
[TOM]- 20s. Caucasian. Assistant to powerful literary agent and demanding and difficult boss, Gareth Wise. (1 line) tr
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From TVGUIDE: http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx...isodeid=7174951
Episode Detail: Self-made - Law & Order: Criminal Intent
A writer is found tortured and murdered, and clues lead Goren and Eames to suspects in her lavish literary circle and the gritty urban society she called her roots.
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Episode Detail: Self-made - Law & Order: Criminal Intent
A writer is found tortured and murdered, and clues lead Goren and Eames to suspects in her lavish literary circle and the gritty urban society she called her roots.
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Al Nickerson's art work will be displayed in this episode.
Take a look at his page and info about it all.
Excerpt:
Al's bio:
"Al Nickerson
Location: New York, United States
Al "Ink-Boy" Nickerson is a comic book inker for DC Comics and Archie Comic Publications. Al is also the creator of The ARGGH!!! Chronicles comics (www.arggh.com), and author of Ya Can't Erase Ink... (www.yacanteraseink.com). And when he finds the extra time in his schedule, Al writes for Back Issue magazine."
http://alnickerson.blogspot.com/2007/11/do...-law-order.html
And
"Hello everyone,
I was contacted by the folks of the television series LAW & ORDER CRIMINAL INTENT. They had asked me if I might be interested in submitting some of my artwork and characters for an upcoming episode. Apparently, they’re shooting a sequence of scenes that takes place in an animation studio. The network wanted to put my characters and artwork on some posters for some background shots.
I still retain all ownership of the characters and artwork used in the episode. I had insisted that my contract clearly state: "Al Nickerson retains all ownership, copyright, and trademark of the Material."
You'll see my characters and artwork on LAW & ORDER CRIMINAL INTENT Episode Seven, Season Seven. I am told that this episode will air on November 15th on the USA Network, and is titled "Self Made". Two of the pieces (the first two posted below) are printed at six feet tall each. Now, I gotta figure out how I can get them home..."
http://albert.nickerson.tripod.com/lawandorder.html
PeachyBC
Take a look at his page and info about it all.
Excerpt:
Al's bio:
"Al Nickerson
Location: New York, United States
Al "Ink-Boy" Nickerson is a comic book inker for DC Comics and Archie Comic Publications. Al is also the creator of The ARGGH!!! Chronicles comics (www.arggh.com), and author of Ya Can't Erase Ink... (www.yacanteraseink.com). And when he finds the extra time in his schedule, Al writes for Back Issue magazine."
http://alnickerson.blogspot.com/2007/11/do...-law-order.html
And
"Hello everyone,
I was contacted by the folks of the television series LAW & ORDER CRIMINAL INTENT. They had asked me if I might be interested in submitting some of my artwork and characters for an upcoming episode. Apparently, they’re shooting a sequence of scenes that takes place in an animation studio. The network wanted to put my characters and artwork on some posters for some background shots.
I still retain all ownership of the characters and artwork used in the episode. I had insisted that my contract clearly state: "Al Nickerson retains all ownership, copyright, and trademark of the Material."
You'll see my characters and artwork on LAW & ORDER CRIMINAL INTENT Episode Seven, Season Seven. I am told that this episode will air on November 15th on the USA Network, and is titled "Self Made". Two of the pieces (the first two posted below) are printed at six feet tall each. Now, I gotta figure out how I can get them home..."
http://albert.nickerson.tripod.com/lawandorder.html
PeachyBC
From ScrippsNews
This time Stevens gets to be the killer
By TERRY MORROW
Scripps Howard News Service
Monday, November 12, 2007
Excerpt:
"Even before Fisher Stevens read the script for "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (airing 10 p.m., ET/PT Thursday, USA), he was hoping he'd be the killer.
"Whenever you're the killer, you get that really, really meaty scene," he says. "Killers always get that really good scene at the end."
In Thursday's episode, Stevens plays a literary agent who is a shark. He has a history of abusing women and paying them off to keep silent. He plays a despicable type who has all eyes on him.
"He's super smart but also super ambitious and those (types) are scary people," Stevens says.
After an acquaintance of his is brutalized and then shot, he is among the prime suspects. Of course there are other suspects, too -- veteran character actor Peter Coyote plays a down-on-his-luck writer who has a motivation as well..."
And
""It's a little bit like doing theater," he says, "and you see the actors on the show doing theater all the time so that's kind of great."
And
'"It's high-quality TV. You know the scripts are really good," he says. "This is the kind of (material) actors look for, especially when they are doing series TV."'
And
"By cable TV's more meager ratings standards, "Criminal Intent" has held its own, emerging as one of USA's most-watched shows this fall. The series is averaging 4 million viewers weekly..."
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/28288
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This time Stevens gets to be the killer
By TERRY MORROW
Scripps Howard News Service
Monday, November 12, 2007
Excerpt:
"Even before Fisher Stevens read the script for "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (airing 10 p.m., ET/PT Thursday, USA), he was hoping he'd be the killer.
"Whenever you're the killer, you get that really, really meaty scene," he says. "Killers always get that really good scene at the end."
In Thursday's episode, Stevens plays a literary agent who is a shark. He has a history of abusing women and paying them off to keep silent. He plays a despicable type who has all eyes on him.
"He's super smart but also super ambitious and those (types) are scary people," Stevens says.
After an acquaintance of his is brutalized and then shot, he is among the prime suspects. Of course there are other suspects, too -- veteran character actor Peter Coyote plays a down-on-his-luck writer who has a motivation as well..."
And
""It's a little bit like doing theater," he says, "and you see the actors on the show doing theater all the time so that's kind of great."
And
'"It's high-quality TV. You know the scripts are really good," he says. "This is the kind of (material) actors look for, especially when they are doing series TV."'
And
"By cable TV's more meager ratings standards, "Criminal Intent" has held its own, emerging as one of USA's most-watched shows this fall. The series is averaging 4 million viewers weekly..."
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/28288
PeachyBC
QUOTE (PeachyBC @ Nov 12 2007, 04:22 PM) 
From ScrippsNews
This time Stevens gets to be the killer
By TERRY MORROW
Scripps Howard News Service
Monday, November 12, 2007
Excerpt:
"Even before Fisher Stevens read the script for "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (airing 10 p.m., ET/PT Thursday, USA), he was hoping he'd be the killer.
"Whenever you're the killer, you get that really, really meaty scene," he says. "Killers always get that really good scene at the end."
In Thursday's episode, Stevens plays a literary agent who is a shark. He has a history of abusing women and paying them off to keep silent. He plays a despicable type who has all eyes on him.
"He's super smart but also super ambitious and those (types) are scary people," Stevens says.
After an acquaintance of his is brutalized and then shot, he is among the prime suspects. Of course there are other suspects, too -- veteran character actor Peter Coyote plays a down-on-his-luck writer who has a motivation as well..."
And
""It's a little bit like doing theater," he says, "and you see the actors on the show doing theater all the time so that's kind of great."
And
'"It's high-quality TV. You know the scripts are really good," he says. "This is the kind of (material) actors look for, especially when they are doing series TV."'
And
"By cable TV's more meager ratings standards, "Criminal Intent" has held its own, emerging as one of USA's most-watched shows this fall. The series is averaging 4 million viewers weekly..."
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/28288
PeachyBC
This time Stevens gets to be the killer
By TERRY MORROW
Scripps Howard News Service
Monday, November 12, 2007
Excerpt:
"Even before Fisher Stevens read the script for "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (airing 10 p.m., ET/PT Thursday, USA), he was hoping he'd be the killer.
"Whenever you're the killer, you get that really, really meaty scene," he says. "Killers always get that really good scene at the end."
In Thursday's episode, Stevens plays a literary agent who is a shark. He has a history of abusing women and paying them off to keep silent. He plays a despicable type who has all eyes on him.
"He's super smart but also super ambitious and those (types) are scary people," Stevens says.
After an acquaintance of his is brutalized and then shot, he is among the prime suspects. Of course there are other suspects, too -- veteran character actor Peter Coyote plays a down-on-his-luck writer who has a motivation as well..."
And
""It's a little bit like doing theater," he says, "and you see the actors on the show doing theater all the time so that's kind of great."
And
'"It's high-quality TV. You know the scripts are really good," he says. "This is the kind of (material) actors look for, especially when they are doing series TV."'
And
"By cable TV's more meager ratings standards, "Criminal Intent" has held its own, emerging as one of USA's most-watched shows this fall. The series is averaging 4 million viewers weekly..."
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/28288
PeachyBC
Wasnt Fisher Stevens in another ep of CI? Where he played a DJ?
Correct Vincen Fan 77,
It was season 4 "Semi-Detached".
PeachyBC
It was season 4 "Semi-Detached".
PeachyBC
This episode airs tonight on USA at 10:00 p.m
Don't forget to vote on how you liked or didn't like the episode, and please remember to use the Spoiler feature if you want to discuss details. After the episode has aired on the West coast you don't needto use the Spoiler feature.
Thanks,
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Don't forget to vote on how you liked or didn't like the episode, and please remember to use the Spoiler feature if you want to discuss details. After the episode has aired on the West coast you don't needto use the Spoiler feature.
Thanks,
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Just curious, who is the actor playing TJ? I cannot seem to find this information on the internet.
QUOTE (TrentHart @ Nov 15 2007, 11:35 PM)
Just curious, who is the actor playing TJ? I cannot seem to find this information on the internet.
The actor was Pablo Schreiber, brother of Liev Schreiber, who filled in on CSI last season when William Peterson took time off to do a play or something.
Pablo Schreiber has appeared previously on LOCI as the character Ed in the episode "The Unblinking Eye" as the friend of the guy who was shot and whose girlfriend was killed so he would make it big. Ed was the actor with the embarrassingly bad scene with Matt Damon off camera.
QUOTE (stefanl @ Nov 16 2007, 05:13 AM)
The actor was Pablo Schreiber, brother of Liev Schreiber, who filled in on CSI last season when William Peterson took time off to do a play or something.
Pablo Schreiber has appeared previously on LOCI as the character Ed in the episode "The Unblinking Eye" as the friend of the guy who was shot and whose girlfriend was killed so he would make it big. Ed was the actor with the embarrassingly bad scene with Matt Damon off camera.
Pablo Schreiber has appeared previously on LOCI as the character Ed in the episode "The Unblinking Eye" as the friend of the guy who was shot and whose girlfriend was killed so he would make it big. Ed was the actor with the embarrassingly bad scene with Matt Damon off camera.
He was also in an ep of SVU..
This was one stinky cheeseman of an episode for me. I just did not like it from start to finish. The only high point for me was the really mean and nasty literary agent played by Fisher Stevens. When he wasn't on screen there was very little reason for the episode. And this was me after a nice long nap in preparation for watching. So I wasn't overly tired when I sat through this one.
Hated that they didn't have a morgue scene because I really like Leslie Hendrix's ME Rodgers.
Hated that Ross was only on in a simple and obligatory "moving the scene along" supporting role. I want more fire in his belly, like he showed last season, but without the constant Goren chip.
Thought that Peter Coyote's character was a ridiculous fop of a man with a really bad accent. It was the vocal equivalent of George Hamilton's tan.
Oh well, they can't all be "Endgame" and "Brother's Keeper". This was this season's lousy Goren & Eames episode. Like "Rocketman". Now they only have to all be perfect the rest of the time.
Hated that they didn't have a morgue scene because I really like Leslie Hendrix's ME Rodgers.
Hated that Ross was only on in a simple and obligatory "moving the scene along" supporting role. I want more fire in his belly, like he showed last season, but without the constant Goren chip.
Thought that Peter Coyote's character was a ridiculous fop of a man with a really bad accent. It was the vocal equivalent of George Hamilton's tan.
Oh well, they can't all be "Endgame" and "Brother's Keeper". This was this season's lousy Goren & Eames episode. Like "Rocketman". Now they only have to all be perfect the rest of the time.
[quote name='stefanl' date='Nov 16 2007, 08:56 AM' post='2678891']
This was one stinky cheeseman of an episode for me. I just did not like it from start to finish.
This has been a "stinky-cheeseman" season for Gorem and Eames. However, I think the contrasting storyline of Falacci and other guy are pretty sharp! Good writing for their stories and poor for Gorem and Eames. Why?
Also, does D'Onofrio want off the show or something? This is the third episode where he has a dissappearing-reappearing stuble. Maybe he's going to quit and make a movie about HP Lovecraft's life. Let's be honest, Bob Howard's only SO cool!
This was one stinky cheeseman of an episode for me. I just did not like it from start to finish.
This has been a "stinky-cheeseman" season for Gorem and Eames. However, I think the contrasting storyline of Falacci and other guy are pretty sharp! Good writing for their stories and poor for Gorem and Eames. Why?
Also, does D'Onofrio want off the show or something? This is the third episode where he has a dissappearing-reappearing stuble. Maybe he's going to quit and make a movie about HP Lovecraft's life. Let's be honest, Bob Howard's only SO cool!
I really enjoyed "Self-Made." With each Goren/Eames eppy this season, we see Goren become a little more impatient and a little more aggressive. Last night, he was downright menacing in a couple of scenes. Eames expressed concern, verbally or facially, several times. They're building up to something major with Goren. I'm loving it!
=SnarkAngel,
I agree with you about Eames concern. I love the scene where shes' like Bobby when hes asking the guy to hit him. Im going to watch the ep again cuz i was a tad distracted last night. Im hoping w ehave better eps of Goren and Eames before the strike potentially ends our season early. I loved Amends..i want more eps like that one!!
I agree with you about Eames concern. I love the scene where shes' like Bobby when hes asking the guy to hit him. Im going to watch the ep again cuz i was a tad distracted last night. Im hoping w ehave better eps of Goren and Eames before the strike potentially ends our season early. I loved Amends..i want more eps like that one!!
Would the strike end the season prematurely? I thought shows bought a season's worth of scripts in advance. That would be smarter.
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
QUOTE (AnneMarie_donahue @ Nov 16 2007, 06:22 PM)
Would the strike end the season prematurely? I thought shows bought a season's worth of scripts in advance. That would be smarter.
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
At least get his name right, it's Goren!!
QUOTE (Gorens_Veal @ Nov 16 2007, 06:58 PM)
At least get his name right, it's Goren!!
Wow, kinda thought that was a pretty obviously literary reference I was making by calling him Gorem and not Goren since the actor DID play Robert e. Howard... but you didn't get it.
QUOTE (AnneMarie_donahue @ Nov 16 2007, 07:25 PM)
Wow, kinda thought that was a pretty obviously literary reference I was making by calling him Gorem and not Goren since the actor DID play Robert e. Howard... but you didn't get it.
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QUOTE (AnneMarie_donahue @ Nov 16 2007, 06:22 PM)
Would the strike end the season prematurely? I thought shows bought a season's worth of scripts in advance. That would be smarter.
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
I'm from Boston and I'm warm and fuzzy. Nice language by the way.
QUOTE (AnneMarie_donahue @ Nov 16 2007, 06:22 PM)
Would the strike end the season prematurely? I thought shows bought a season's worth of scripts in advance. That would be smarter.
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
I'm only annoyed that these episodes are dealing too much with their personal lives. i watch Crime Dramas because the drama usually centers around a CRIME, not some whiney douchebag complaining about his mom... sorry, i'm from boston, we're just not warm fuzzy people.
I like Gorem's character, but he's becoming too morose. If he keeps getting agitated like he did in last night's episode he's going to find himself off the force. i was under the impression that he had actually broken a finger... which I assumed was incorrect since there was no case in the preceeding scene on the TJ character. If he's gonna go "batshit" crazy he should just haul off and crack someone! No more of this passive/agreesive handholding ****, or the "you hit me first" junior high crap. Just start smoking again, tell Eames to mother someone else, and turn into the bad cop we've been waiting for.
Eames' character could be really great, but for the most part she's just Mindy to Gorem's Mork. I want her to actually say the line, "what are you doing now?" just to make it official. That's too bad because Catherine erbe is brilliant adn I LOVE the character Eames. And if we are going to focus on family life, can we meet the sister and son/nephew?
That's what I like about Logan/Falacci stories, they focus on crime. When I watch Gorem I feel like I'm watching a soap opera.
Ahh, enough of my belly aching. Weird Tales beckons....
Is Kathryn. I love her name.
This is the 1st season 7 eps I've seen and I thought it was very good, but not nearly as good as earlier G/E eps I've seen. Goren is really just agitated isn't he. Either they're planning some big blow out for Goren or VDO is losing interest in the part - haven't seen enough eps to fully make up my mind. I do hope that it's NOT the former!! Eames seemed genuinely at a loss with him. They seem to have lost some of their chemistry. Is that the case for the season or was it just this eps??? Is it where the characters are going or is it new directors etc?
Stefan1, while I'm not sure if I agree with you, I have to say i LOVED your comment on Peter Coyote's accent being the vocal equivalent of George Hamilton's tan. Priceless!!!
Stefan1, while I'm not sure if I agree with you, I have to say i LOVED your comment on Peter Coyote's accent being the vocal equivalent of George Hamilton's tan. Priceless!!!
Thanks AstonMartin. I just did not like that episode. I know lots of other fans did and quite a bit too from remarks I've read at other sites. It just did nothing for me, which is fine. Every episode can't strike the "loved it just because" chord with everyone.
This episode airs tonight 1/23 on NBC at 9pm.
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