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"CHUCK"

"CHUCK VERSUS THE HELICOPTER"

10/01/2007 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Monday) : WHO TO BELIEVE? --As Chuck Bartowski (Zachary Levi) continues to come to grips with his newly adopted life as a spy, tension builds between his recently appointed partners Sarah Walker (Yvonne Strahovski) and John Casey (Adam Baldwin). When a doctor who seems to have a solution to Chuck's problem is killed, Casey and Walker turn the blame at one another. Both agents persistently try to convince Chuck that the other one is responsible and now it is up to Chuck to decide which one to trust. Who will he choose? Also starring Joshua Gomez, Sarah Lancaster, and Ryan McPartlin.

Thanks for the teaser!!! i can't wait for this show to start!! i hope it gets good ratings, It's got me intriged...

The trailer for ep 2 looks brilliant. I can't wait.

Yes it does! I cant wait for the episode!

Thanks for the link!!!! I actually look forward to Mondays now....

^ me too, it looks awesome! Monday nights rock.

Have fun with the show tonight everyone. (I've got to wait another 3 hours to see it. )

Anybody else catch the Lost reference? When the doc is examining Chuck and then he goes off with all the government secrets, I swear I heard "Oceanic Flight 815 was shot down..."

Loved the joke about Lost!

So the CIA is involved in Oceanic Flight 815!

Too funny!

I was laughing so hard I my head started to hurt.

Keep up the humor, it makes the show so much fun.

Also really loved Sarah's sexy martial arts moves in the Heidi inspired Wienerlicious outfit.

Great job, love the show!

I just posted that in the other thread. I'm watching the show with my dad and once I heard the Lost reference I turned to him and I'm like "Oh my God. Did you catch that?" haha.

I love this show. Another good episode this week.

I'm still loving Morgan...from the "Morgan door" at Chuck's house, to the video pad at the "Buy More", too funny.

I squealed as soon as I heard "Oceanic Flight 815", and therefore causing myself and my Dad to miss any other "top secret operatives" that may have been quickly mentioned, but since we're both fans of Lost, I think he'll forgive me.
All I can say is that this is one of the reasons Chuck is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows.
Kudos to the writers daring enough to reference a rival station's show just to get all of the Losties riled up.

Loving the Spoon soundtrack tonight! "Don't Make Me A Target" is a very appropriate song for the episode...

I felt guilty at first, but yeah I double checked to make sure after i finished the episode

After watching this second episode, I don't know that Chuck has much to offer. There is a definite ending to the series already envisioned and alluded to tonight. No, I don't think they would really kill Chuck. It's a comedy. But, there are definite problems with the story.

I can see how one agency or the other would love to control the "human intersect." However, both intelligence operatives should be working together to protect Chuck -- not eager to remove the other from the picture. I am already clued in to the constant battle that will exist between the two agents. I just don't see how it helps to move the plot forward. And I also don't see Chuck getting to "fly" a helicopter without wrecking it (ie: a hard landing). This show has all the makings of an episodic mirror (meaning every show will contain the same elements). I believe it will become redundant in nature very fast.

That's the biggest thing that I would worry about if I were a writer for this show, so hopefully they've considered all of this stuff. You very succinctly pointed out the several items that concern me about the show, and that's why I think they need to be a little less focused on Chuck and the agents and give a little more screen time to Chuck and his supporting cast--HIS supporting cast, not the show's, so I'm talking about the people who he knew before the computer was downloaded into his brain.

I just assumed that the lack of a hard landing was NBC trying to save a few bucks becuase they couldn't justify the repair bill on a chopper just to make the scene look convincing on a show that already requires a pretty healthy suspension of disbelief.

I really enjoyed the pilot episode, but was not particularly turned on by the second episode (in which Chuck is a pilot). I thought they lost a lot of humor and got very bogged down in the spy aspect of it which, frankly, is the weaker part of the show. I'd like to get away from the three central characters and see a little more from the motley crew of supporting characters in the Buy More.

Awesome episode! I wonder how the ratings are..

Those really aren't bad retention numbers. The big negative for NBC is that they can't seem to get up off the mats on Monday nights. I think Chuck has to be pretty cheap to make, so as long as sponsors don't desert it in droves for some idiot reason, I think we're pretty safe.

I'm not so sure the supporting cast require that much attention. Supporting cast should only help drive the plot forward. They should remain part of the background. Focus should never be diverted to a support cast member unless it moves the story forward. If you have a supporting cast member you want more of, then someone made a mistake during casting call.

An example, Kattee Sackhoff being cast in the series Bionic Woman. I like her. She has her moments. But, the Battlestar Galactica fans will want more of Sarah Corvis than Jamie Summers. They will constantly talk about how Katee deserves more screen time. If they had it their way, she would be the star and her character the focus of the story. And there is no reason it couldn't work that way.

New Plot: A woman takes revenge on a research company for turning her into a cyborg.

Wait a minute, Smallville already has a character like that -- Cyborg from the DC universe. Only cyborg is taking his revenge against Luthor Corp. and the 33.1 project with the Green Arrow, Aquaman, and Flash.

I hope I got my point across regarding bad casting choices. It doesn't mean the actor/actress is bad. It simply means you have someone in a role that detracts attention away from the central character. The show is called Chuck -- not Buy More.

^^ In many ways it's the difference between an ensemble driven and a star-driven show. After all, this is "Chuck".

Chuck is really growing on me with the great characters and some great comedic moments in this 2nd episode! The comedic timing was fantastic when Chuck and Casey were running from the car that didn't blow up and then did, the whole dinner incident was hilarious, and of course Chuck was awesome freaking out flying the helicopter. Chuck definitely has some set up now for a light but really funny show.

During "Chuck Vs. The Helicopter", I thought I overheard a reference to Oceanic Flight 815 while Chuck was spouting. I think he mentioned that it was shot down. Did anyone else catch that?

BTW, whenever I see Chuck and Sarah together, I can't help but think, "Hey, it's Greg and Marsha Brady!"

It was a truly great episode. The dinner party was fall on the floor hilarious and Morgan is a star.

I'm a happy viewer. Please don't let it be cancelled. Please.

This is true. You may have said something I meant to point out.

Yeah...It revealed who shot the plane down but I diddn't quite catch it. I have it recorded on my DVR so I'll probably watch it again. If no one posts who it was by then, I'll post it in here.

I dont know if you can exactly hear who shot it down because his answers are overlapping each other at that point. But great Lost reference, Chuck is a great show.

3 cheers for Morgan!! He is great, dare I say 'Awesome.' Chuck really has me hooked and the "comic timing" of Morgan really adds to the show. Here's hoping to a great series that keeps on going.

This episode was really good. I enjoyed it alot

This episode was just ok. It wasnt as exciting and intrisnic as the Pilot. Im looking forward to this monday though. The preview looks hilarious with good spy action.

A lot of humor in this episode, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

I just watched the first two epidoses on Bravo. I'm not sure that I'll keep watching this show. It is kind of a stupid assumption. Why is he working in a Best Buy type of store if he was smart enough to go to a college with a guy that became a government agent. He seems very childish and needs to grow up.

And the premise that two government agencies are going at each other to protect one guy. Why don't they just bring him into protective custody. Yeah I know, then there wouldn't be a show.

Anyways, those are my thoughts.

Part of the initial premise was that "Chuck" never finished college, he dropped out...he might have taken the job as a way of making ends meet while he tried to decide what he wanted to do next. Working as the Manager of the Nerd Herd, he is probably making a decent salary, I had a friend who was a computer tech and he made serious cash, especially when he went out on night and weekend calls. One thing I think we've all discovered with "Chuck" so far though, is not to take it too seriously, look for the in jokes to other "cult" shows and films, and enjoy, you'll have a great time, it's obvious the cast does.

which episode is the lost reference from
1 or 2

I finally saw ep. 2 on Saturday (stupid college prevents me from watching it on Monday). Loved the episode and cannot wait till ep. 3 tonight. I am hoping to get home early enough to watch it. Anyhow, I thought I would answer some of the questions/misinformation that has been posted since my last visit.

1. Chuck didn't drop out of college he was kicked out. We don't know why yet, but Chuck makes mention of it when talking to Ellie. He says Bryce got him kicked out.

2. The lost reference was never completed. What Chuck was saying overlapped into each other all we got was "Oceanic flight 815 was shot down by..."

Well I guess thats all unless I missed something. Talk to you all later.

ps. Can we keep all the negative comments in the negative comments topic please?

Chuck Is The Nerd: The LOST reference is from episode 2

As long as a poster can back-up or give evidence for their negative position, we need to let the discussion take place.

they mention the reason he got kicked out in last nights episode
he stole the quiz papers and bryce caught him and busted him

Thanks doug_porter for catching my mistake...I meant to say he was kicked out/not dropped out...was typing on the run without thinking.

JD

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"CHUCK"

"CHUCK VERSUS THE HELICOPTER"

12/15/2007 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Saturday) : WHO TO BELIEVE? --As Chuck Bartowski (Zachary Levi) continues to come to grips with his newly adopted life as a spy, tension builds between his recently appointed partners Sarah Walker (Yvonne Strahovski) and John Casey (Adam Baldwin). When a doctor who seems to have a solution to Chuck's problem is killed, Casey and Walker turn the blame at one another. Both agents persistently try to convince Chuck that the other one is responsible and now it is up to Chuck to decide which one to trust. Who will he choose? Also starring Joshua Gomez, Sarah Lancaster, and Ryan McPartlin.

Is it me, or is this the start of Sarah actually liking Chuck in more than friendly way?

Watch the end of the "second date", about 9:15 into the episode.

Chuck gets out of the car, and Sarah is smiling as she watches him go into his house. After gazing at him (Smiling the whole time), she sort of shakes herself out of the happy, smiley mood she's in.

Could this be Sarah realizing that Chuck is a hunk o' burning nerd? And she's not sure why she feels that way.

Am I crazy?

Is it just me or did anybody else have a hard time understanding what happened to the CIA Doctor. They show him go over the hill, and then a few moments later his car blows up. But then later he is still alive – or his evil twin is. So were there 2 doctors and one got killed – the other captured by the CIA (and sent to Guantanamo - )? Or was there one doctor and he got out of the car before it blew up?

There was only one doctor, and he got out of the car before it blew up. He staged his death.

I still haven't come up with a good reason why he would do that. And he almost blew up the Intersect by accident to boot.

Well, if he couldn't sell the human Intersect to the highest bidder, he had to kill him anyway, if only to protect himself since Chuck knew his secret of selling secrets to North Korea.

Just a reminder...this is airing NOW on Sci-Fi

JD/Forum Moderator

You are probably right. I'm trying to remember if the doctor immediately recognized Chucks voice in the room when he was trying to save blondie girl. You know he had been listening to Chuck talk for at least an hour or so. So he would have know his voice in a second. If he was the same guy. Anyway, they took that episode off rewind...
I was thinking there might be two guys and neither one got blown up in the car, but the bad one was trying to blow up the good one and the good one escaped from his car just in time. I mean i was thinking that some time next year we might hear from the doctor again. After all they brought back Bryce from the dead - and that required a fair patch of suspense of disbelief(just how exactly did the bad guys get his corpse from the CIA!).
But I guess if they want the Doctor to reappear, then he would just escape from the CIA prison in Chechlosavakia (pardon the spelling ).
I missed the cue that there was only one doctor and that he bailed out of his car before the blast. What was it?

there is only one doctor - we see him driving by himself, he reached the other side of the hill and there was an explosion.
he only found out who "patient X" is [Chuck] when chuck blurtted out his records (info) with the CIA/NSA

Of all the episodes, this is the one l would rank as the weakest. And to be honest, I can't figure out why myself? Something was just off with this episode for me personally.

Me too, except I just thought it was boring because it was severely lacking on all fronts. The action sequences were ehhh (except for the corndog skewer thing) and there wasn't much comic relief outside of the brief dinner scene.



I just assumed that he staged his death so that when he stole the Intersect (once he found out who it was), he wouldn't be on the list of suspects. I mean it did work for awhile before Sarah figured it out. I think once he heard his mission it was always part of his plan to kidnap one of the agents and coerce the information out of them on who the Intersect was.

When he blew up Casey's SUV, he had no idea that Chuck was the Intersect and that Chuck would be riding along with Casey. He wanted the Intersect and the easiest way to get to him was to eliminate any road blocks, which in this case would be the handlers. No offense to the women here, but he probably thought Casey was the bigger obstacle so he chose to blow him up and then capture Sarah (who he thought was the weaker handler) and torture her into telling him who the Intersect was. I may be off the mark, but it's simplest explanation. Occam's razor.

Really? I personally liked this episode. This was the episode that "officially" got me hooked on the show.