Robin, Robin, Robin!!!!!!!
With all the work in Hollywood, why did you take the roll of such a biatch.
You were such a loved character in Deadwood that I hate to see people dislike you,,, and Honey, ain't nobody gonna like you.
I hope they re-write your character. Ok, maybe it won't be the foul mouthed drunken sot we all admired but can they at least make you a little more likeable?

Mike

I don't like her.
I don't like her one bit.
She obviously has some hidden agenda which envolves getting rid of Charlie.
It seems like she is even advocating framing him in some way, in order to get rid of him.

I think that this is what drove Charlie's partner to fall off the wagon, and go have a drink.

Just put this in the theories thread:

Why is the lieutenant so out to get him? Did she have involvement in the original Crews case? Or is she just being told what to do by someone else who had been involved? Seems a little too over the top to be coincidental.

And Charlie's partner looked hot with the hair down and the shirt open........take a walk on the wild side.

No, she's definitely in on The Big Conspiracy. I don't think she's afraid of anyone.

And yeah, she's a pretty nasty character.

I LOVE this show! Great actors and characters, great story, and the Zen twist is refreshing.

I think the Lt. is definitely in on it. We haven't learned who her partner was back then, but I bet the two of them were in on it, and that they weren't the only ones, although I'd also bet that Bobby had nothing to do with it. He's still a street cop, and doesn't seem to have benefited at all from any of this, while the Lt. has obviously been promoted to her current rank since Charlie was put away. She's hoping to be able to steer Reese around and manipulate the situation.

I really hope NBC gives this show the chance it deserves.

There is one problem with the idea of the Lt. being in on it. If you go to the bios page and read the lt. bio it tells you in it that she is just trying to help Dani Reese redeem herself as a cop after the whole issues of getting addicted to drugs and stuff when she was undercover

I think the Lt doesn't like Charlie simply because he got big $$$ in the settlement. I also belive she's not exactly into men in any way.

Here is her bio from the Life home page:

ok i'm going to be the odd one out and say that she's not such a bad character and is walking a fine line here....she's between a rock and a hard place, she has to protect the LAPD, she is a LT, a female and wants to move up in the ranks and was saddled with a guy who higher ups framed when she was only a beat cop - 3 years on the job, same as stark probably....she probably wasn't even Jack Reese's partner at the time of the robbery or if she was she had only been his partner for a short time....if she is only 37/38 now she was only 21/22 then so barely out of the academy and by her own account not there, but if she was it would of been on the barricades and Jack - as we know from tonight's episode - was the SWAT capt. in charge.....therefore if she was jack's partner by the time Charlie was framed then she might have an inkling about a conspiracy to do with the robbery and that something was not right with the murders but not privy with exactly what it was and now just doesn't want the LAPD's name dragged through the mud even more.......If you watch the behind the scenes trailer, Robin is there talking about how her character starts off wanting to get rid of Charlie but she says her motives are not as straight forward as we might imagine....and even now we see her starting to be more protective of him and even listening to him more as each week progresses

Weeeeeeeeellllll.... Whatever else she may think, the fact is that Crews is showing himself to be a "Closer". That is, he has - or appears to have - a good solve rate on his cases. That makes him useful, if nothing else. Useful to her statistics, and in that regard, good for the Dept. However, there's still this annoying little problem of his being a very public example of one of their mistake.

I think that, as long as Crews keeps closing cases, she'll go to bat for him. Have Crews become even a "little" problem - such as the one represented by his efforts to close his original case - and she'll do what she has to in order to shut him down. If that means putting him in a frame, so be it. I think she's that kind of... errrrmmmm... Motivated. Yeah. That's it. Motivated. Nice word, don'tcha think?

Balance

the Dave

I think one of the show's weak points is the obvious hostility that some of the people on the police force direct toward Crews. It's a little heavy handed. Having said that, I don't mind the lieutenant that much. She seems to be more or less fair. I will say that I don't like her voice...it sounds like she is trying to force that accent.

I haven't decided what I think about her yet. She did have Dani "babysit" him, but I still don't have her quite figured out yet. I think she may be in on it though. Or since she was younger when it all took place, she may not be in on it but may know something and was told to keep quiet. Maybe she was given her position to keep quiet. Hmmmmmm...

Good cop, bad cop...I guess she's the bad cop??

I didn't like her until last week. When Charlie and her were on a stake out. I get the impression that if she was in on framing him she wouldn't have talked to him about the bank robbery. I think she is just by the book and is covering herself by having Reese watch him.

Well, in tonight's episode she admitted she made Dani Charlie's partner so Dani could find some dirt on him, and they could get rid of him. She may not be part of framing him, but she sure wants him gone. It may be coming from her superiors, but at least she admitted he does good police work.

I noticed in this episode they seem to be doing more with her hair and makeup, so maybe they think that will make her more likeable.

In this last episode, Ep 1.8, it seemed like Lt. Davis wasn't being portrayed as the same cast-iron b*tch as before...

- That statement she made to Reese about wanting Charlie gone...for his own good, and for the good of morale in the department.
This seemed less like she was in on the conspiracy, and more like she was actually doing it for the simple reasons she stated.

- She came out and admitted that Charlie has done some 'good police work'.
Even though she seemed to say this begrudgingly, she seems to actually like Charlie now...in spite of herself.

Maybe it's just me...but I'm thinking that Lt. Pain-in-the-Butt might be more in Charlie's corner now than she used to be.

A question about Lt. Davis. In the 1st episode she said she rode with Dani's dad for 3 years and survived. When? 15 years ago he was a SWAT team leader. That takes training and time. Wouldn't riding in a patrol car be a step down for him? Was he demoted for something? (Like going missing during a robbery?) Or was she refering to them being partners?

When did she make detective? It takes years to become a Lt.

I think she and Dani's father had an affair that somehow is linked to the murders. Should they have been first on scene, but where off somewhere and therefore let the murderer get away?

I agree. I think he is growing on her.

I think the LT is in on the frame up of Crews. She was the old partner of Danni's father. I am sure he was involved in the missing money. The LT mush have also been in on it.

The murdered guy found out about it. HE was going to tip Crews off and Danni's father, the LT and who knows who else were going to end up in jail. They did the murder, then framed Crews.

SWAT team members are from all parts of the dept. They only come together for training or when needed for a crime incident...Jack Reese could of been Lt. Davis' partner when she first made detective, before he retired. She has already said she wasn't at the robbery and it hasn't been mentioned where she was when the murders took place. I don't even think we know when she even joined the force. Riding with him just means at some point he mentored her and she obviously respects him and holds him in high esteem...

Even though I think Crews is growing on her, I also think she may be in on it. And when she said she was handling the murder personally, makes you wonder if she is going to help cover something up.

I'm not too sure about her. I don't know that she is in on it - seems to me like she is the typical female overcompensator in the officeplace - she isn't really balanced. She is all about order, and Crewes is admittedly an object of chaos. The Lt is willing to give Reese a chance to redeem herself because she has potential, but if Reese is underperforming, then I am sure the Lt would view her as expendable. The fact that she tries to spend time hobnobbing with politicians instead of her family shows that she is willing to do whatever necessary to get ahead. However, that doesn't mean she is in on it. If anything, she is a by the book person, and for right or wrong, I don't see that type of person being "bought." She may assist covering it up if it was proved to her that it was for the good of the department, but I don't see that she was involved in the initial matter. To me, she seems like she is all about maximizing every potential aspect within the system to get ahead. I don't see her going outside the system, i.e. getting part of the BoA loot, to get ahead. And honestly, if you got a couple hundred grand or up to a million as part of the heist (I can't imagine more than a handful were intimately involved in that), would you want to stay as a cop? The people that got the bulk of the money are probably no longer actively involved. The people covering up for it on the force are probably ex-partners, significant others or friends of the people that were involved. Just my opinion.

I think so too. When Davis was arguing with the assistant district attorney in Farthingale, she semed to be on Crews' side, telling the ADA she had an agenda. I think she sees Charlie as a potential problem and doesn't want a problem in her squad. On the other hand, he is a good detective and improving her rate of soved cases. So she's more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think she's accepting him, in the last episode she told the IAD detective you have an agenda. And seemed reluctant to search his home. I don't think she is involved in the conspiracy, she is just a by the book cop who follows orders who the conspiracy can use. They want Charlie gone and tell her get rid of Charlie and so she does. But she has a problem with it because he turns out to be a good cop. I wonder if her superiors ordered her to partner Dani with Charlie or if Jack Reese called in a favor from his old partner.

I am a little concerned about Lt. Davis after tonight's episode. She basically told Jack Reese that she will go after whoever killed Ames - no matter who they are. Now I am afraid someone may try to kill her off.

I am glad she is a good cop. She told Reese that 2 men were seen leaving Ames' house at the time of the murder. Was that tipping her hand a little too much? And notice how quickly Reese found out that Charlie is no longer a suspect, and how angry that made him. he may be retired, but he is still very involved with the department.

After watching "Dig a Hole" and "Fill it up", my wife and I are convinced that Lt. Davis is the one that helped Crews break his case wide open by providing him with the critical piece of evidence that he needed to track down the man who killed the Seybolt family. Specifically, she provided him with the file on Jack Reese.

The researcher that actually handed him the file had no reason to know that he was investigating Reese, and so there was no way that she would have known to provide him with that file, as well as the critical piece of evidence that it contained. On the other hand, Lt. Davis not only knew that Crews was doing his own investigation, she knew that Reese was under suspicion...and that Crews had gotten close enough to the truth to make Reese start acting worried. Considering her position in the precinct, she couldn't act directly to help Crews without placing herself at risk, but after her confrontation with Reese (as well as her direct statement telling him that if Crews is guilty she will pursue him, but if the proof points to someone else, THAT would be the person she would pursue) she knew that Crews was on to something, and that something had to do with Reese.

Throughout this series Lt. Davis has been very protective of her precinct. She doesn't like it when there is a problem, and as such she takes steps to make sure problems never arise. I think someone who takes that much interest in her people would know that something dirty was going on, and would take measures to see to it that the bad apples were removed from the bunch. She accomplished exactly that by giving Charlie the file, and she did it without exposing herself to possible repercussions from the Cabal.

Charlie has been getting inside info from the LAPD since the first episode and it's not from Lt Davis, because at the end of the first episode he brings home a "confidential, property of the LAPD" file and it is Lt. Davis's file - he adds her pic to the conspiracy wall! I'm sure he considers the pretty tech a "friend with benefits" and she is the main source of his info as was demonstrated in episode 10.

It's understood that he has been helping himself to the files that pertain to his case, but its been just that, helping himself. Take for example the misdirection he uses to gain access to the secure database to look up Jack Reese's name in the first place. Remember the keyboard and the can of Red Bull?

The tech is a new addition to his "friend" list, and she doesn't know him well enough to know the importance of Jack Reese to his case. The only one who did know was Lt. Davis, and while I'm certain she wanted to help him, she still needed a cutout to protect herself. The tech filled the role quite nicely. The kiss was simply the Tech taking advantage of the situation to show him she is interested in pursuing a relationship with him after he flirted with her over the phone.

How do you know she is a new addition to his friends list? Charlie didn't seem at all surprised by the kiss or the "I'll call you" comment. And she doesn't need to know the importance of the Jack Reese file - just that it's the file Charlie asked her to get. Charlie was under a lot of scrutiny when he came back on the force and he didn't know the ropes and he didn't know his friends from his enemies (and most folks looked like enemies.) I very much doubt that he could have been helping himself to confidential files from from the time of his first case. Lt. Davis was Jack Reese's partner - she may not be willing to shield him if he is dirty but I strongly doubt that she would help someone dig into his confidential info. Especially not Charlie - she may be getting used to Crews but he's still "a loose canon" and she likes order in her house.

There was one line in "Fill it up" that makes me believe that the tech was not a close associate of his before the file/elevator incident. When they are pulling the phone numbers off of the cell phone of Zen Master Flash, she makes the comment "Who remembers their number from ten years ago?" Charlie responds with "I'm pretty sure I do, though it wasn't a phone number." The tech gets a confused look on her face as if she has no idea what he's talking about, and Dani mouths the word "prison". After that, the lightbulb goes off over the tech's head.

A close associate of his who is willing to help him gather information on his suspects would not have needed that mental prod. As to the kiss in the elevator, it was forward, but not unforeseen...she was interested in him following the test on the phone's chip, and the flirting over the cell phone showed her that he was interested in her as well.

As for Lt. Davis not wanting to provide information on her former partner, you're wrong. The conversation she had with Jack Reese shows that her loyalty to her former partner is not as important to her as finding the guilty parties and uncovering the truth. She couldn't have been more clear on that if she'd tried. Reese himself definitely got the message, and I think that was why he sent his men to clean up the potential problems (i.e. Kyle).

Just because the Tech doesn't think about him as a former inmate doesn't mean she's a new friend - just not a close friend - they can be having a flirtatious and sexual relationship - and she can be doing favors for him - without being intimate in other ways. And just because the Lt. wants to uncover the truth about Ames's murder doesn't mean she's supplying Crews with confidential info about her former partner. I'm not convinced Jack Reese is really a bad guy. He's being fed to us as a bad guy - but so was Bobby in the earlier episodes and that turned out to be a false trail. Jack certainly looks dirty, and his connection with Kyle Hollis and the Rachel Seybolt incident certainly makes him seem guilty - but he hasn't admitted anything - it's all come from Hollis (not the most trustworthy person) and Crews's theories which have not yet been proven. That business about the $4 million donation to the Blessed Sisters may prove an important factor later.

The fact is none of us really knows which way the story will go but I not convinced yet that Lt. Davis is fully in Crews's corner. Did you notice her manner when they brought Hollis in and everyone else was clapping for Charlie? She just stood in the doorway of her office and gave no sign of approval (or disapproval). If she had helped him she would be pleased that he was successful.

Interesting point about the $4 million donation to Reese's "favorite" charity. It seems like a really, really stupid thing to do for someone trying to cover his tracks. Perhaps the people pulling the strings weren't sure if they could trust Jack in the beginning (remember the donation was made four months after the heist) to keep his mouth shut, and were setting him up to take the fall if he decided to play the hero.

I also believed that Jack Reese wasn't a bad guy, until "Fill it up". His actions at the end of the episode (kidnapping Rachel and holding her hostage against Crews) have proven that he is up to his eyeballs in it, and it's no longer a simple matter of covering for other people. One of the comments that Crews made in this episode was that the donation could be "Guilt money." Maybe he was part of the planning of the Bank of L.A. heist, but no one was supposed to be hurt? And after it went wrong, perhaps he donated his share of the loot to assuage his guilt?

Whatever his role was in the robbery, he's definitely a bad guy now. I honestly don't think he was a bad guy 15 years ago, but the robbery changed him enough that it destroyed his relationship with his daughter. Dani remembers the Bank of L.A. as a turning point in her relationship with her father, to the point that simply mentioning the heist is enough to make her angry.

As for Lt. Davis and her reaction, to me she looked bemused. She wasn't applauding him simply because she knew it wasn't over...just bringing in Kyle is the same as kicking over the top of an ant hill. I think she's waiting to see what kind of case Crews has built before she takes sides.

Can't wait to see how it unfolds. I think by the end of the first season, Davis will be a firm partisan for Crews.

Ever notice how the lieutenant and Holly Hunter's Grace talk alike? They both sound like they have pebbles in their mouths.

At first I thought it was strange that she was the only one in the squad room not clapping; but it would be in bad taste for her to do so, being top dog. But then I realized the real reason: THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HER INVESTIGATION! Charlie ran around digging (no pun intended) on his own, kept Lt. Davis out of the loop, and made her look bad. Let's face it: Charlie was just a beat cop before the settlement. Now he's jumped a couple grades all the way up to Detective. You're supposed to pay your dues.

And here's Charlie now, doing Davis's job just as well, if not better, than she is. She's done a lot to get where she is in this men's club and now a lesser one has shown her up. Sure, she's happy the case is solved--for the department's sake and its image. But she still doesn't know what to make of Cruse, and with the approval she just witnessed by his peers, she doesn't have much leverage any more.

But I give her props for standing up to Jack and going by the book, something you sometimes let slide with ex-partners.

I love Robin Weigert. What a terrific actor! She was BRILLIANT as Calamity Jane in Deadwood. B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T!! As far as Lt. Davis is concerned, I think she is an intriguing character and feel that Robin made an interesting choice to take this role. We are not yet sure of her motivations and whether she is good or evil. She seems to have it out for Crews but who knows. The show is so well written it is hard to say. At any rate, I'm enjoying ALL the characters because they are not at all one dimensional and I'm enjoying watching their layers unfold.

Do I personally like her? No. I don't think she'd be my best friend. Although I think she's an ok Lt.

Do I think she's a good character? Absolutely. And yes, well acted. I am not necessarily suspicious of her as far as the conspiracy goes. I think she just dislikes Charlie because, as mentioned, he's jumped up several grades AND he can really make her and her department look bad if he screws up. It'll be interesting to see if her opinion of him changes now that he's made a breakthrough on his case.

I think as long as this character needs to be fleshed out a little bit more in order to avoid from her becoming stale in the story. The intrigue is already there because of what is hidden in her past. I agree that during her stakeout with Crews gave her a personal aspect that she had none of before. I just hope she gets some depth that shows up sooner rather than later.

At first I thought that the Lt. was part of the conspiracy as her early directives and veiled threaths seemed to show. As the episodes have passed, I've come to this thought that she has deliberately been shown that she was pretty much just following a higher up directive in how Crews was to be dealt with, encluding going so far as to threathen Dani. The settlement showing how the LAPD severely scr3wed one of their own has been a major egg on the face for them and they didn't want him back. Probably also to help keep their a@@'s covered and 'they' will go to any length to do that.

Crews has slowly shown his natural investigation ability and person by person has gained respect. The earlier rude and hostle attitudes by fellow cops has given away to grudging respect. Now that he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was set up a major shift in the stories and characters should be evident. I would like to see someone actually addressing the original investigator's continued insistance of Crews guilt even in the face of absolute evidence and why he was shot. This has to be obvious to the Lt. as she is in charge of the case!

The Lt. is a deep character and I look forward to seeing how she develops. I don't think she was in on the bank job. I don't think she was in on the frame up. I see her as slowly realizing that she has been used as a tool to continue to hurt Crews and this could develop into a deep bone of resentment at being so used. She could turn out to be a major supporter of Crews! I am advidly waiting to see!!!!!

Dani's character development is also a major plot and one that has some outstanding potential. I feel her association with Charlie will help her to regrow her self-esteme and faith. He will reground her. It is inevitable he will become her very best friend in the world! The path to that should be really fun! And I want to know what will happen when she finally finds out her father's role in her partners frame!

This show has years of story lines to come, and none boring!!!!!!!!

Yes, I find her to be a pain. However, strong and independent women often do! I agree with others that she is not a bad guy just yet. I think she is a bit peeved that Crews is showing her up. Again, the next episodes will tell us a bit more. I saw that the next episode is January 22nd. Saw that at the last episode!

StaciaSue

If you check out the Bank of LA Official Report Jack Reese name is not on there. So my question is did he leave the scene of the crime with the money and expect everybody else to keep quiet about it and split the money?

Okay I found LIFE and loved it!!
So why is somebody out there already messing with perfection. Demoted??!?!? Come on!!!
I REALLY hope that was a dream or something! Dump the new guy bring back the tried and true!!

I gotta agree. I liked her cuz you didn't know if she was a good "guy" or a bad "guy". I'm not liking this new LT so far.

Can someone tell me what happened to her? Why was she demoted? I obviously missed something or forgot something from last season... I don't like this new guy so far.

All they said was that she was demoted. There was nothing about it last season. My guess is it had something to do when she told Jack Reese that "if the investagation lead to Crews she would go after him. It if lead to someone else she would go after them."