Do you think they will get caught? Was there any evidence linking them to the murder?

I know that they freaked out... I know I would freak out if fear and anger raged up in me to the point of taking a metal pipe and killing a man, whether defending someone I love and care about or not. But they should have called 9-1-1. They did not murder anyone... it was self defense. Tyra was being attacked again. Landry was defending her, protecting her, keeping her from being attacked again by the guy, whether or not he was running away from the scene or not. At least in Florida that's how it would have been taken... not sure how it would have been taken in TX.

Now that they've dumped a body.... the law may be different. And it'll be sad if they get caught and go to jail... when they were innocent all along.

Maybe they'll get caught. However, the hero usually confesses and owns up to his mistakes, before getting caught. Landry will probably take the blame, without implicating Tyra. The point is that this doesn't fit into the kind of show FNL has been until now. I never thought I'd be reading a FNL message board and people would be comparing this show to the O.C. That was the beauty of this show. Now they've moved Orange County or 90210 to the Texas Panhandle, inside of one story line in the last 6 mins of the show, which I guess is impressive.

For some reason, I don't think they dumped the body. Landry & Tyra were never actually shown doing it, so maybe they decided not to. I'm such a conspiracy theorist anyway, but I'm really curious to see what actually happened in that scene . Because like a lot of people I feel it wasn't really a normal Friday Night Lights scene/storyline. So I feel like something is going to happen that will clear it up and bring us back to our regular FNL stuff.

I'm sure the fact that Landry's dad is a cop will play into the storyline somehow.

I have to agree, that Friday Night Lights took a bad turn in it's last episode. I can't stress enough,how bad this is inregards to the show going down a dark path. I didn't start watching this series to see a 90201.

I do feel like they should've call 911, no way should've been held,or put on trial for murder. Think about it, Tara was on record for being assaulted previously. And all they needed to do was tell their story to police,of this guy stalking Tara. Yeah, sure there would've been a investigate,but i'm sure the police would've found that they were defending themselves.

And for all intents and purposes, it will cause major guilt issue's trying to keep this a secret. It will hurt their relationship,and eventually be the reason for them breaking up. Which is to bad, for this will mostlikely ruin Landry's and Tara's future forever.


And the whole Lyla, going religious zealit,bad idea. Why would a girl of,Lyla's obvious beauty and popluarity go 'zealit',"WHY"? because her families falling apart, i don't think so. I think that Berg and Bissinger are feeling the pressure from the network.

Who is 'Tara'?

I am so unsure of what to think of this SL. First off, it does seem very out there for FNL. Second, it really is kind of dumb. I mean Landry has already been shown as a guy who is going to do the right thing no matter what. He went forced Tyra's hand to tell about her assult. He stood up to Matt when it came to their friend being beat up by the other football player. He's a top student and frankly I can't imagine anyone not believing him if he said it was self-defense. Sure, Tyra's repuation might not help, but as has already been stated, she already talked to the police about this beforehand so it's not like she's making something up to cover her tracks.

The only good thing this SL has done is showcase how good an actor Jesse Plemmons is. We all knew he could do the comical stuff and he's blown me away with his dramatic acting. I'm going to enjoy that at least even if the SL is just too out there for me.

Tell me they did NOT just dump a body in the river. Oh, my!

I completely agree

I'm dissapointed with this storyline of Tyra and Landry. I can't believe they would allow these two awesome characters to murder someone, even though it was unintentional and then not go to the police. I am anxious to see where this story goes as I love both of these characters!!

I think we have to be patient and let the story play out. This is what Ask Ausellio had to say:

Question: So after months of you harassing me, I sat down this weekend and watched every episode of Friday Night Lights, and I must say... you were right! Thank you! Got any scoopage? — Carrie
Ausiello: Here's a big one: The new season starts this Friday (9 pm/ET) and it's imperative that you convince everyone and their brother to watch. And if they don't do so willingly, don't be afraid to blackmail them with incriminating photos and/or video. Violence is also acceptable, but only as a last resort. This may seem a bit excessive, but, well, desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm also a little revved up because I just screened Episodes 2 and 3 and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that this show is as good, if not better, than it's ever been. I'm even coming around on that controversial dark twist involving Landry and Tyra, mostly because A) the producers seem committed to playing the repercussions of it, it has facilitated the long-awaited merger of Lyra (or is it Tandry?) and C) it has exposed Jesse Plemons and Adrianne Palicki for the master thespians I always knew they were. The chemistry between these two will Blow. You. Away. We're talking Ephram-Amy caliber chemistry, and you know I don't throw those words around lightly.

WOW~! Guess only time will tell.. Thanks for posting that.

Thanks......Skyofromokla......I also had read in a San Antonio newpaper, the same thing. Not to worry because, the story is brilliant. And the acting between Jesse and Adrianne, is breathtaking. Which I think we go a glimpse of, in the preview, for this week episode. So, lets just watch. And, enjoy the ride. Isn't that half the fun...... getting there?

More from Ausiello on Tyra/Landry storyline.

Question: After watching the Friday Night Lights premiere, I think Stanford's awesome win on Saturday was the only thing that helped me recover from "the big twist." Do you have even the smallest poop to reassure everyone that this story isn't as horrible as everyone thinks it is? — L.J.
Ausiello: I could've sworn we covered this in last week's AA. If you skimmed past that part, here's the CliffsNotes version: The end (Landry-Tyra forever intertwined) will justify the means (cheap plot twist). And if you have any doubts that Landry will ultimately do the right thing, let the title of Episode 9 erase them for you: "The Confession." 'Nuff said.

ooooh....i'm sort of excited about this storyline now, as much as it shocked me at first! Can't wait for tomorrow night

I'm disappointed, too. I like Tryra and Landry so much because he is a really nice guy and she is trying to better herself and now this happens. I don't know if I can like them as much and identify w/ Landry ( the outsider who does not like football).

Of course Landry has joined the team which makes no sense.

Can someone explain to me why Landry joined the team? I thought he hated football.

Well, I think he joined for a couple of reasons. First, for his dad. I have read that his dad, was a member, of a Dillon football team, that won a state championship. I think that falls into the, "Daddy Love Me" thing. I remember Landry teasing Matt on the "Daddy Love Me" thing, as he drove Matt to a morning practice. "Do you think, he will love you more, if your on the team."


Second, Tyra......he thinks Tyra will see him, as more of a man, than a "smelly geek". He wants to change his image with Tyra. He truly wants to protect her, from anything. From making bad choices about Riggins, remember his "cute but tragic Texas Forvever" speech to her, at the Panther Roast, to this stalker thing. He wants to be, her go to guy, for anything. Plus, this thing with Tyra, is like a dream come true for Landry.


Third, he's got the size. I think a coach would try and see if he's got game. I mean this is Texas, most boys have played, some kind of football. From Pee Wee to High School, I'm sure Landry has played before, maybe in Jr. High. Anyhoo, just some ideas.

I don't think they have addressed why Landry joined the team. I know in the bio of his father he is a policeman and also a member of a previous state championship team from Dillon.There is always pressure from a football playing father on his son.

I do believe that they dumped the body.

I think they will eventually get in some trouble for throwing the body in the water, but NOT murder because that's not what it was. It was self-defense.

Actually, it probably would NOT be ruled self-defense for a number of reasons.

1) There was a clear and distinct breaking away from the fight by the "rapist", after which Landry approached him from behind and struck him in the head with the pipe. The fight, for lack of a better term, was over. Landry was no longer defending himself because he was no longer being attacked. I don't know Texas law specifically, but Self-Defense law is VERY specific on this....if there is a clear end to combat, after which some re-engages it, there is no longer a self-defense situation. If I was a prosecutor that had the episode as a tape to present to the jury I guarantee you I could present a clear break in the action where the guy says he will see them again, there is a break in the action as he is leaving, and Landry then picks up the pipe and attacks him.

2) Secondly, even if this did not win, the level of force is way too high. Deadly force is only appropriate when faced with deadly force....something neithe Tyra nor Landry were faced with in this scenario...in fact, when faced just with wrestling Landry this guy disengaged. You are only permitted the use of necessary and proportionate, non-deadly force in self-defense anytime the victim reasonably believes that unlawful force is about to be used on him. Deadly force is permissible only if a faultless victim reasonably believes that unlawful force which will cause death or grievous bodily harm is about to be used on him. There is no way you could reasonably convince a jury that either Tyra or Landry thought that guy was going to kill them right then. The best argument you may have had for lethal force is if Landry had killed the guy in what appeared to be an attempted rape of Tyra. I.e. He came out and witnessed the attempted rape and killed him. Rape can be "grievous bodily harm" that allows for lethal force in defense of yourself or another. But that is not what happened here. Landry killed this guy as he was walking away from him, after he had assaulted Tyra, and assaulted Landry. There is no legal justification for the use of deadly force.

No, truthfully, Landry could likely be charged with either Manslaughter or Second Degree Murder. There are certainly mitigating circumstances that would be considered for sentencing, and at trial. But what he did most certainly does not fall within the legal definition of self-defense.

This is such a bad storyline. Ruining one character I actually like (Landry) and making the new season unbelievable...

Was I seeing things correctly at the end of episode 2? It looked like in previews that the kiss between Tyra and Landry at the end of the show leads to them having sex? Uggh. This happened way to quickly. I'd rather have seen that played out over some time. I feel like they are really forcing this relationship. I guess maybe this is just one more thing that is going to cloud Landry's judgement and conflict him about coming forward with the truth about the murder/cover-up. I really enjoyed Landry's Tyra obsession in season 1. I have a feeling this may not end well for Landry.

If only they had called 911 when it happened. The threat alone from the guy to get Tyra would have been enough for me to have gone crazy on him.

Landry would have gotten off just because he didn't know the extent of what he was capable of. Adrenaline does some crazy stuff. And how do you prove that the guy was walking away? Just because you got the back of his head? You could have gotten the back of his head when you made him fall.....adrenaline made Landry keep clubbing him. Heck, this saved the cops a lot of time and effort and the cost of incarceration.

No, I think them having sex this fast would be good and logical. They are both going through something intense right now that only they understand which is going to bring them closer. Plus, them not "waiting" is a reflection of Tyra's character. In some ways, it seems as though she went over to see him to take some guilt off of herself ---like if she has sex with Landry, he won't blame her for any thing that happened. I think the relationship is going to take some turns after next week, and I don't really think its moving fast, because I think it is going to do a lot of growing, especially if there is sex involved.

respectfully, but I would have been very disappointed if that is what had happened....that would have definitely been some "TV Lawyering" at its best.....I could have seen Landry and Tyra lying about the attack to make it appear more like self-defense....but the circumstances, as they occurred, as you and I witnessed them on television, do not constitute the defense of self-defense...

Now, there is always prosecutorial discretion....the CA/DA (whatever they call them in small town Texas) could have elected not to pursue charges against Landry or Tyra, especially given the exigent circumstances of the situation.....but...if he did....Landry's actions do not meet the legal standard needed to establish a defense of self-defense with deadly force....

Granted I am a "stay-at-home" Dad now....but as a former attorney (and football coach actually) I do like a little bit of realism in my shows.....and to just completely make up or ignore what the law really is irritates the heck out of me...and FNL is a much better show than that....

That's the rule of the law, true. But would a local prosecutor charge a 16-year old honor student, who's the son of a cop, for hitting a rapist in the head after he just punched him, and tried to rape the girl he's in love with? Oh, and the guy tried to rape her once before and had been stalking her. No way in ****. And even if he did, there's no way a jury would convict that kid. Get real.

FNL did not "completely make up or ignore what the law really is" so I hope you're referring to the opinion of another poster. There should be agreement out here from all the current and former lawyers that what he did was not self-defense, as the guy was walking away, but that a local DA in a smallish town would be hard-pressed to charge him with a serious crime in that situation.

I think the murder is a bit of a shark jump, but I think they accurately portrayed what two kids might do in such a situation, especially when the dominant one (Tyra) does not have any faith in the police.

But what's going to happen to their relationship? I don't want it to end, since it's been so engaging. The scene with Landry's rally girl ("Do you believe all human beings are capable of evil?") was brilliant. I totally agree with an earlier post that the sex was appropriate given Tyra's history, and is a way for her to try to feel less guilty. It'll be interesting to see what it means to each character. My guess is that the sex will mean a tremendous amount to Landry, and Tyra will try to act like it never happened, which will lead to them becoming estranged in the short term.

I guess I will respond to both of your posts here in 1....


First, no, I do not think FNL has done any "creative TV lawyering"....I was responding to another poster's hypothetical.....as I quoted their post in my response I would have thought that would be a little more apparent, but perhaps not...

As far as the legal standard, my first response was more aimed at the idea that what Landry did was "self-defense"...it wasn't....there is a reason this is being called the "murder storyline" and not the "self-defense storyline"....I discussed prosecutorial discretion in my second post, but I think you are incorrect in your assertion that no one would ever charge Landry....are we to assume that it is "ok" now in this country for "good guys" to kill "bad people"? That isn't how it works...there are certainly defenses available to Landry....and, again, mitigating circumstances....but a Rabbi who walks up to a rapist in a coffee shop and shoots him in the head can still be charged with murder....

Plus, there are a number of things you haven't taken into account:

1) We know nothing about the victim/attempted rapist....for all you know he may be an outstanding citizen with many people that will miss him...I only mention this because....

2) He was NEVER charged in the assault on Tyra, and now the only witness you have that he attacked her originally is also an accessory to his murder (Tyra)....and the only other witness you have that he attacked her the second time is the person that killed him (Landry) and an accessory after the fact (Tyra)....

3) Its not like Tyra has a superb reputation in the community

4) This wouldn't be the first time a "hot girl" seduced a "geeky nobody" into doing her dirty work....

Again, I am just sitting here responding to your post and I have already worked up possible theories to the crime....maybe not enough to convict....but certainly enough to indict....

we will see how it all comes out in the wash, as it were, but stranger things have certainly happened....

I also should add, though, that even given these legal arguments I do agree with you that neither Landry nor Tyra would face multiple years in prison....although Tyra would likely be in more trouble because I (believe) she is over 18 and would likely be charged as an adult....

Given my experience, and the people I know that are CAs...Landry receives juvenile time, possibly suspended, and never sees a courtroom, and probation and Tyra likely gets a similar adult sentence......i do agree it unlikely that either would receive significant prison time given the circumstances...

but, again...it is Texas....they execute folks down there by the droves...and when I was at Ft. Hood I drove through a store where you could buy alcohol and ammunition without ever leaving your car....

Oh great, the watch is a family airloom! Like that whole Tyra/Landry story line needs even more complications! Here is what I would have liked to have seen happen in Applebees. Tryra, after talking w/ Landry's dad should have turned back and said:

"I have to tell you something and PLEASE don't tell Landry I told you this. But we were fooling around and Landry lost his watch. We looked everywhere for it. He's really upset because he said it was his grandfather's watch and he's scared to death to tell you and I feel like it is all my fault he lost it."

What a useful lie that would have been.

October 19th episode, I absolutely almost fell off the sofa when Tyra was climbing out the window and his father was standing outside....

And Tyra rocked with her answer to Landry's father at Applebees. Only said good things about him that would make him proud!!! Way to go!

(but she needs to stop jumping in and out of his window!)

Right, it's not murder. 1st Degree Murder is a premeditated act. Landry didn't plan this out. It happened in Self Defense and a sense of rage to protect someone he loves. Therefore he'd be looking at Manslaughter. To what degree, that I'm not sure. Being a first time offense and being a good kid at school with good grades, he could probably get a plea bargain and do little or NO time. Surely would have a very Long Probation time. The guy who plays his dad also plays the role of Agent Aaron Pierce on '24'. I just found this little blurb here. Best casting ever!
posted by Don Z on July 23, 2007 at 7:30 pm in Pilots/casting, Friday Night Lights 1 comment »

Glenn Morshower, who played agent Aaron Pierce on “24,” has been cast to play Landry’s dad on “Friday Night Lights” this fall. Landry is played by Jesse Plemons. With a resemblance like this how can they not fire up this casting call. If you look closely, there is a strong resemblence with the 2 actors. So, the question right now is, will Landry find this family heirloom? The WATCH. And when is Grandpa suppose to be visiting? The Clock is ticking. I hear that 24 clock ticking. j/k And Tyra, she's this girl who's just trying to find a way out of that small city of Dillon and now she's sidetracked and smitten with this really nice guy how does a very heroic act to save her. The Knight in shining armor story. This story has all kinds of possibilities. Will be fun to see how it all unfolds. No wonder the Critics LOVE this show as well. It's fairly fresh and the timing is just right as to when they launched the new season, just as most High School Seasons are coming to a close. We can continue to watch more HS football Texas style for a while now. Cheers!

I agree with you on that. Personally, i'm not a fan of Landry & somewhow this relationship came out of nowhere & forced. I prefered them as freinds but not lovers. I also love to see Tyra interacting with the rest of the cast, she somehow got isolated.

Lol I think I am in the minority here, but I actually like the Tyra/Landry storylines. Of course I feel it could have been handled a little differently. To be honest, I don't think they needed to dump the body to bring them closer together, I think that the murder in itself would be a good enough plot device to bring them closer together, if they'd reported it to the police without the added secrecy. However, I like the interaction of Landry and Tyra on screen. I really look forward to seeing both actors on my tv set.

I do hope that in future though, we will start to see Tyra interacting with other characters besides Landry. I really miss the Tyra/Julie friendship this season and I think they could both really use each other around at the moment.

I do have to admit that I did notice some isolation with the Landry/Trya storyline. Shouldn't Riggins be bugging her as to why she's hangin out with Landry or is he ok with this because Landry tutored him? And what about the Lyla/Trya digs at each other? And yeah, what's the deal with Julie? She just dump Tyra as a friend or what? I thought they were such good buds? So many questions. How many more weeks are left in the season?? *chuckling* Plenty of time for all this stuff to all get sorted out. Good to see Coach Taylor is Back In The Saddle where he belongs. I bet that Coach McGregor gets a job coaching another team in TX there and his team ends up playing Dillon in the State Championship Game, or a pivitol playoff game leading to Dillon's going to the State Championship or something. Remember, McGregor told Eric, "I WILL be seeing you again!" Just my thinking there. So yeah, Trya has to somehow get involved with the rest of the cast again eventually here. Probably help Lyla out of a jam with this ExCon or something is my thinking, Tyra having the Street Savy she does and all.

Actually it should be called the "manslaughter storyline" because while it is not self-defense, it also isn't murder.

I don't think Landry intended to kill the rapist. That's why they were taking him to the hospital until he stopped breathing and they believed he was dead. That's involuntary manslaughter, when you're doing something wrong that leads to someone's death but was not intended to lead to it.

...Which is what made the body dump so stupid (and something Landry, the smart guy, wouldn't do). Involuntary manslaughter, Landry being a juvenile and having connections, he ends up with a suspended jail sentence and probation. If they were going to do something "wrong," Tyra would have lied to the police and said that the man had turned to rape her when Landry killed him, so as to make it sound like defense of others (same as self-defense).

I have no question that they'll be realistic in not letting self-defense work as a defense, because they made a point of showing him running away. They wanted to leave no question that it wasn't self-defense.

I think Landry will at some point be charged with second degree murder, as his dumping the body will cause the police not to believe him at first; but through connections, his previously clean record, his lack of intent to kill, and what the victim had been doing to Tyra, eventually the result will be involuntary manslaughter / suspended sentence / probation.

I see them having had Landry go out for the team so that Coach Taylor will get involved. He'll end up pushing for the truth (I can hear him saying the words, "Now you tell me exactly what happened") and when he convinces Taylor that he was guilty of far less than murder, Taylor will go to bat for him with the police and DA, and he may even ask Buddy to call in a favor or two.

Still, rotten storyline because they ruined a character by having him do something he'd never do. I hope they've recognized this and that the episodes they're writing now de-emphasize it in favor of the better stories they're also running this season.

You had me until this line......I really do think he would do this. He bashed the guy who was tormenting someone he loved----that's noble. I don't think he intended to kill him but to knock him out and make him stop. He's in love/lust with Tyra. Men have always done stupid things in this situation for centuries.

Should they have called 911? Heck yes!!!!!!!! They freaked, they're young. And don't forget, Tyra and her family don't have the best record in town. Adrenalin kicked in, they dumped the body instead of calling the authorities. Heck, it's not like they have experience with violence!

I agree, though, since Landry grew up in a home of a law enforcement officer, that he should/could have made better decisions. The irony of his dad being a police officer makes this show wonderful.

Can't wait until Friday!!!!

That part, I believe. I just think he'd have called 911 or his father immediately afterwards.

What makes it worse is that from the liveblog transcript this is going to be a huge plot for a long time. They or the network may have thought that they needed a plot of something that would be a big deal in real life, not just to the cast members and the town.

They don't. The realistic dealing with less major events (quadripligia is a very big deal, but not the same as getting charged with murder) made FNL so good last year and the other plots remain really good this year.

It's a really good show, and I still look forward to watching it; but they made a big mistake with this plot (which wouldn't bother me as much if it were pushed to the background or resolved in a few eps, but that's not the feeling I get).

I would like to see them get this part behind them. It was a tragic moment that turned catastrophic when they didn't notify the police right away. As cute as they are together though, I don't know how they would end up in a long term relationship after something like this. It's heroic and everything right now but I feel that the things they will face in the future (punishment for the crime) will push them apart.

The killing of that guy is a hackneyed plotline that belongs on a show like "Vegas" or "The OC" but not FNL; and I smell NBC suits all over it. These people did some market research and found that most television viewers are attracted to a show where somebody croaks--hence the CSI franchise; and figured they'd put that formula in "Friday Night Lights". And now it's become so silly that even the critics--whose positive reviews helped get it renewed for a second season--are bailing.

First off, why didn't Tyra report this guy was back and trying to run her off the road? I know she didn't want to make a big deal out of it when it happened, but now that cat was out of the bag--and as it turned out, her composite sketch of the guy matched a dude who was wanted for rape in two other states--she should have gotten out of her car when she pulled into the police station and reported it. They probably had the guy's license plate on file, and with him being a stranger in a small town, arresting him would have been easy enough.

And about the dude's car. They killed the guy and left his car--an unfamiliar vehicle--sitting in the parking lot of a small town convenience store. That's not going to draw suspicion from at least the guy behind the counter? He'd have called the cops, and they would have matched it to the guy who attacked Tyra, and she would have been brought in for her own safety. (I mean, they wind up questioning her when they get the guy's driver's license from his pants pocket.)

Then there's the killing itself. A single blow from a teenager to the back of the head is not going to kill someone. At worst, he would have forgotten how to tie his shoes and go to the bathroom. I know, there are instances where people have been killed by single hits, but it's usually to the front of the head, and they die in the hospital after spending a couple hours in a coma. And eeeeeven if, (because it's television where a guy can try out for the Para-Olympics two months after a crippling accident), Landry gets lucky and kills this guy, how is his default action set for "take the body and dump it in the river"?

This is like that movie with Crispin Glover and Keanu Reeves awhile back, only those guys were on drugs, were completely devoid of a conscience and needed to hide the body of a girl one of them murdered. A varsity football player in a small Texas town who kills a rapist--especially one from Louisiana or Oklahoma--is only going to have to pose for a statue in the town center. And what was the clerk doing while Tyra was screaming and Landry was dragging the body into his car?

Then there's the issue of the smoking watch. I guess if things have gotten this stupid, it shouldn't matter that Landry would have dropped his watch--which was engraved; "To Landry. Please don't leave this on any corpses you have to dispose of. Love, yer Grandpappy"--in the river with the dude. And even, (because again, this is television where people will do everything in their power to make sure nobody knows they have a talking horse)...even if Landry was to lose his watch on the body, why didn't he just conspire to say that he took it off at the swimming pool, and couldn't find it when he got dressed? The guy was stalking Tyra, and I'm sure a rapist and stalker might need to steal jewelry from time to time to finance his lifestyle.

Finally...and this is a small thing to be sure, but when Tyra is dragged down to the station, her mother has no clue that she was attacked. You mean Tami Taylor didn't mention it once, and didn't call Tyra's mom that very day? What a crappy guidance counselor she must have been. Providing the writers don't have Mrs. Taylor microwaving her new baby, and she's allowed to return to work, I don't think Dillon High School should take her back. Imagine the liability the school could incur from taking a girl to the police station to report an attempted rape and never ever telling her parents!

It's disappointing to see a show that once featured an earthy realism that wasn't on TV before, opt for the flash and splatter. I see that "Pushing Daisies" got moved to their old Wednesday night slot, and "Friday Night Lights" is on after "Deal or No Deal". R.I.P.F.N.L.

The idiotic direction this story line has taken is why the ratings are so low--WE KNEW THAT NETWORK EXECS WERE GOING TO MUCK IT UP AKA SOAP OPERA STYLE (what they've done should have started with an F instead of an M), so we decided not to invest ourselves in these characters.

omg! I can't believe landry and that girl have gotten into this mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! boy oh boy! I think i would have beat that rapist in the head about 7 more times and then said that he was attacking the girl at the time he was killed. then i would have just called the po-po instead of dumping the body in a river. maybe avoiding jail time by claiming that i was defending the girl. geeze. what a messy messey mess. baby. and kept my watch.

For all those who think the Landry/Tyra scenario isn't realistic, I disagree. Lots of nasty stuff happens in the real world and this story line is very plausible.

I don't know if they will get caught. I think after Tyra's sacrifice they will probably be safe. I am so interested if all of you who are so critical of the plot twists are in your twenties or younger. As someone well into their forties, I find it so interesting that you can come down so hard on Landry going along with Tyra. I also want to know if you have any ideas as to why ALL of America is not watching this show???

Two quick hits on this topic:

1) The only part of the story I find unrealistic is the part about Landry being a party to dumping the body; as has been pointed out, good student, smart kid, etc. Still, it was the heat of the moment and since Landry's dad is a cop, Landry knows full well that killing someone is not a minor offence. Bottom line: he was scared, and made a bad choice.

2) NBC suits instigating this storyline, based upon CSI/L&O market research - yep, I can totally see that. Nothing good ever comes of the suits meddling in the writing. Unfortunately, like so many other good shows that struggle or get cancelled (*cough* Studio 60 *cough*), FNL only appeals to people above a certain level of intelligence, and after decades of both schools and mass media dumbing down the population (the latter cynically on purpose, the former through PeeCee nonsense), there aren't enough of those people left in America to make an audience sizable enough to justify charging the fat ad dollars for which the suits all lust. The reason Drivel Or More Drivel is popular is because that's how smart the average person is any more. Live with it.

They're going to get caught. But I think there'll be a happy ending considering that it doesn't look like either of these actors is ready to leave the show anytime soon; they would leave the show if they end up doing time in jail (murder=life behind bars, dunnit?). But I seriously think Tyra loves Landry...which is strange but, hey! go with it because that's where its going.

Maybe Landry gets a strong slap on the wrist at best because of the question of self defense and at worst he does a little time. But his father ! WOW! At best he'll lose his job, but I think he'll serve more time in jail/prison than Landry because he's a cop and went completely desperate by destroying evidence to help his almost perfect son. Landry is such a good kid and I can't fault his Dad for being a Father first and a Cop second. Saw next weeks pre-view after tonights episode and Landry turns himself in. Apparently the guilt was eating him alive. Understandable especialy for a kid like Landry. But this will destroy his Dad's life.

Key line from tonights show - Landry to Tyra " I can't really talk about this thing with anybody but you "
This has to be horrifying for a boy with his heart and mind.