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Jnta
During the week following the premiere episode, the pilot was aired on the SciFi channel a couple of times. However, I haven't been able to find any airings on SciFi since then, although The Bionic Woman is re-aired on SciFi every week. Like Quantum Leap, this it the type of series that takes time to develop a following. Back when QL was having a difficult time in the ratings, NBC made the bold move to run repeats during prime time for a full week. They called it Quantum Leap Week, and it worked, people finally caught on and became enveloped in Sam's travels. While I don't expect that kind of generosity from the execs inhabiting NBC these days, IMO it would make sense to at least run repeats on SciFi and allow fans of the genre to find the show.
vbarkley
I remembered that - I loved QL Week! They've never done anything like that since, but I think reruns on the Sci-Fi channel would make sense.
Guest123
They replayed Heroes last year on the SciFi Channel...which was great.
I hope they start doing it with Journeyman.
It makes sense, because there are scifi fans who may not be watching it yet who don't know about it.
moving_forward
I wasn't aware that the pilot aired on SciFi. I agree with the poster above that it would be good to grab some SciFi viewers who wouldn't otherwise watch NBC. Journeyman is the perfect show for SciFi viewers.. Let's hope they figure this out and do start airing old epsiodes.

However - I don't think they'll be airing Heroes on SciFi anymore; it's gotten pretty popular IMO.
Rood_Inverse
That would probably make too much sense. It's a mystery as to why it hasn't happened yet. There are more than a few time slots on Sci-Fi that are screaming for a show this cool, and if they've had Bionic Woman on there, it's almost a crime to ignore Journeyman.

I vote we start a few long, gripey threads on the scifi.com forums about it, if nothing else. wink.gif
Journey_Man
QUOTE (Rood_Inverse @ Oct 17 2007, 07:34 PM) *
That would probably make too much sense. It's a mystery as to why it hasn't happened yet. There are more than a few time slots on Sci-Fi that are screaming for a show this cool, and if they've had Bionic Woman on there, it's almost a crime to ignore Journeyman.

I vote we start a few long, gripey threads on the scifi.com forums about it, if nothing else. wink.gif


I 2nd that my friend!
Jnta
QUOTE (Rood_Inverse @ Oct 17 2007, 07:34 PM) *
That would probably make too much sense. It's a mystery as to why it hasn't happened yet. There are more than a few time slots on Sci-Fi that are screaming for a show this cool, and if they've had Bionic Woman on there, it's almost a crime to ignore Journeyman.

I vote we start a few long, gripey threads on the scifi.com forums about it, if nothing else. wink.gif


We could also try sending this suggestion through the NBC contact us email system.

http://www.nbc.com/Footer/Contact_Us/?__status=1

I think we are running out of time. The best hope of turning things around might be a mini marathon of the show so far, aired on SciFi, allowing viewers to experience the strength, development and potential of the show in one sitting. I just hope they go this route before deciding to send it into hiatus and not run it during sweeps.
Rood_Inverse
QUOTE (Journey_Man @ Oct 23 2007, 11:27 PM) *
I 2nd that my friend!

Unfortunately, the Sci-Fi Channel forums have basically been flipping me the bird the last few times I tried to register there. If ya start without me, I'll try and catch up, though. biggrin.gif

In the absence of that option, it might not be a bad idea to email the Sci-Fi Channel directly and ask them why Journeyman isn't airing on their station. I have a couple of times, myself. I don't honestly expect an answer, but I figure enough people bugging them about it might wake them up.

SCI FI CHANNEL
If you have suggestions or comments for our Programming Department about the SCI FI Channel or any of its shows, please contact:

feedback@scifi.com


QUOTE (Jnta @ Oct 24 2007, 08:01 AM) *
We could also try sending this suggestion through the NBC contact us email system.

http://www.nbc.com/Footer/Contact_Us/?__status=1

Also a good idea. I'm pretty much emailing anyone and everyone I think will listen, at this point. Thanks for the link.
alatari
SciFi channel is a NBC-Universal property so they could do this. I would watch it over the Mondo Chronicles.
With this show and and BW they have a full night of viewing on SciFi Friday with repeats into the wee hours biting into Adult Swim viewership.
Matthew_Schultz
QUOTE (Jnta @ Oct 10 2007, 02:50 PM) *
During the week following the premiere episode, the pilot was aired on the SciFi channel a couple of times. However, I haven't been able to find any airings on SciFi since then, although The Bionic Woman is re-aired on SciFi every week. Like Quantum Leap, this it the type of series that takes time to develop a following. Back when QL was having a difficult time in the ratings, NBC made the bold move to run repeats during prime time for a full week. They called it Quantum Leap Week, and it worked, people finally caught on and became enveloped in Sam's travels. While I don't expect that kind of generosity from the execs inhabiting NBC these days, IMO it would make sense to at least run repeats on SciFi and allow fans of the genre to find the show.


NBC might not want to split the viewership. If you keep the show on one channel you keep the viewers watching the same time every week. You can guarantee the advertisers that 20-30 something males and females will be watching and that they are tech savy and prone to buy an iphone. The Sci-fi channel could be the kiss of death for the show. If it has a small viewership already and you cutoff the geeks from primetime, what do you have left from a network standpoint? Why watch the show Monday nights when I know its going to be on Saturday afternoon on Sci-fi.

I know it sounds like shooting yourself in the foot, but networks are all about making money. Of course this is all speculation on my part.
Jnta
QUOTE (Matthew_Schultz @ Nov 6 2007, 04:43 PM) *
NBC might not want to split the viewership. If you keep the show on one channel you keep the viewers watching the same time every week. You can guarantee the advertisers that 20-30 something males and females will be watching and that they are tech savy and prone to buy an iphone. The Sci-fi channel could be the kiss of death for the show. If it has a small viewership already and you cutoff the geeks from primetime, what do you have left from a network standpoint? Why watch the show Monday nights when I know its going to be on Saturday afternoon on Sci-fi.

I know it sounds like shooting yourself in the foot, but networks are all about making money. Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I really don't think that has anything to do with it. NBC is airing The Bionic Woman on SciFi every Friday night and Life on USA, if they thought it would hurt the shows ratings they wouldn't be doing it with either of these shows. They've also shown Heroes on SciFi, and on weekends on regular NBC channels. From what I've read it's part of promoting the shows through their paid cable networks. That's why they aired all four of their new hourly dramas on USA and Bravo during premiere week. They're not loosing revenue by doing this, but promoting their product, and hoping to hook viewer who may have missed the show on the first run. In many ways Journeyman, because of the complexity of its plots, is the show that would benefit most from repeated airings. There are a lot things you catch on the first viewing, and the slow reveal pays off better.

QUOTE (Matthew_Schultz @ Nov 6 2007, 04:43 PM) *
NBC might not want to split the viewership. If you keep the show on one channel you keep the viewers watching the same time every week. You can guarantee the advertisers that 20-30 something males and females will be watching and that they are tech savy and prone to buy an iphone. The Sci-fi channel could be the kiss of death for the show. If it has a small viewership already and you cutoff the geeks from primetime, what do you have left from a network standpoint? Why watch the show Monday nights when I know its going to be on Saturday afternoon on Sci-fi.

I know it sounds like shooting yourself in the foot, but networks are all about making money. Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I really don't think that has anything to do with it. NBC is airing The Bionic Woman on SciFi every Friday night and Life on USA, if they thought it would hurt the shows ratings they wouldn't be doing it with either of these shows. They've also shown Heroes on SciFi, and on weekends on regular NBC channels. From what I've read it's part of promoting the shows through their paid cable networks. That's why they aired all four of their new hourly dramas on USA and Bravo during premiere week. They're not loosing revenue by doing this, but promoting their product, and hoping to hook viewer who may have missed the show on the first run. In many ways Journeyman, because of the complexity of its plots, is the show that would benefit most from repeated airings. There are a lot things you catch on the first viewing, and the slow reveal pays off better.
justame
Let me start by saying Journeyman is my favorite show of the year. From what I understand the ratings have not been that good so far. My question: If NBC decides to cancel the show due to poor ratings can they "transfer" it to their subsidiary SciFi channel? The SciFi channel is losing Battlestar Galactica after this season.

I for one would love to continue watching this show even if it was only shown on the SciFi channel. The SciFi Channel doesn't need huge ratings to keep a show running if the show isn't too expensive to produce. I don't work in the industry myself. Is this type of transfer possible instead of cancelling the show if it comes to that?
tigerjuju
It's possible. I think most shows are not produced by the network that airs them. A team produces a show, then try to sell it to a network that is interested in airing it. If NBC drops a show, I suppose another network can pickup JM if they believe in the show. But being dropping by a major network doesn't speak well for the show's track record when it comes to time trying to sell it to another network...
vbarkley
I think that justame is saying that since NBC owns the Sci-Fi channel, it would be easy to just move it there rather than cancel it, kinda like how they moved Law & Order: Criminal Intent to the USA network, which they also own.
Jnta
[quote name='justame' date='Nov 6 2007, 09:48 PM' post='2646272']
Let me start by saying Journeyman is my favorite show of the year. From what I understand the ratings have not been that good so far. My question: If NBC decides to cancel the show due to poor ratings can they "transfer" it to their subsidiary SciFi channel? The SciFi channel is losing Battlestar Galactica after this season.

I for one would love to continue watching this show even if it was only shown on the SciFi channel. The SciFi Channel doesn't need huge ratings to keep a show running if the show isn't too expensive to produce. I don't work in the industry myself. Is this type of transfer possible instead of cancelling the show if it comes to that?
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IMO running a mini marathon on either SciFi or USA before deciding to cancel the show would make sense, it would give people the chance to actually see things unfold in one sitting. It's worked before. Also SciFi Channel shows usually have pretty low budgets. If it does come to that, I think USA might be a better fit.
justame
Let me start by saying Journeyman is my favorite show of the year. From what I understand the ratings have not been that good so far. My question: If NBC decides to cancel the show due to poor ratings can they "transfer" it to their subsidiary SciFi channel? The SciFi channel is losing Battlestar Galactica after this season.

I for one would love to continue watching this show even if it was only shown on the SciFi channel. The SciFi Channel doesn't need huge ratings to keep a show running if the show isn't too expensive to produce. I don't work in the industry myself. Is this type of transfer possible instead of cancelling the show if it comes to that?
Robert_DarkFall
QUOTE (justame @ Nov 7 2007, 05:41 AM) *
Let me start by saying Journeyman is my favorite show of the year. From what I understand the ratings have not been that good so far. My question: If NBC decides to cancel the show due to poor ratings can they "transfer" it to their subsidiary SciFi channel? The SciFi channel is losing Battlestar Galactica after this season.

I for one would love to continue watching this show even if it was only shown on the SciFi channel. The SciFi Channel doesn't need huge ratings to keep a show running if the show isn't too expensive to produce. I don't work in the industry myself. Is this type of transfer possible instead of cancelling the show if it comes to that?


I would hope SciFi would step to the plate if the show is cancelled - this would be an excellent show for them.

Another option could be Fox or one of their affiliates since I guess the show is actually produced by Fox.
Niff
The "all in one sitting" marathon is a great idea. That's how I got hooked on Heroes. They played the first 4 or 5 episodes on a Sunday evening, and my husband and I watched them all. We couldn't wait to keep watching on Mondays. Also, I noticed that NBC hardly hypes Journeyman at all. Their promos seem to be "On Chuck,....this this and this...blah, blah, blah....... On Heroes, what will happen? Who's good, who's next? ..... What's this one up to, what's that one up to etc. etc. etc. ........ (Then Journeyman next.)

Of COURSE they don't get the ratings for it!
Jnta
QUOTE (Niff @ Nov 10 2007, 11:42 AM) *
The "all in one sitting" marathon is a great idea. That's how I got hooked on Heroes. They played the first 4 or 5 episodes on a Sunday evening, and my husband and I watched them all. We couldn't wait to keep watching on Mondays. Also, I noticed that NBC hardly hypes Journeyman at all. Their promos seem to be "On Chuck,....this this and this...blah, blah, blah....... On Heroes, what will happen? Who's good, who's next? ..... What's this one up to, what's that one up to etc. etc. etc. ........ (Then Journeyman next.)

Of COURSE they don't get the ratings for it!

From yesterday's San Francisco Chronicle:

"-- You can almost feel the decisions being made. And many times they are unfair or are just frustratingly predictable. We feel terrible for writer and executive producer Kevin Falls, the Emmy award winner who wrote for "The West Wing" and "Sports Night" (among others) before launching his series "Journeyman" this complicated fall. By most accounts, Monday's episode was the best yet - but the ratings were bad and NBC didn't even bother to promote it during the entirety of its Sunday night football coverage. A bad sign, indeed. "

I just saw the promo for this Monday which promotes Chuck and Heroes, but Journeyman isn't even mentioned. Please take a minute to email an exec or two and ask why the show isn't even mentioned in promos. When I emailed a couple of execs yesterday, I promptly got a response from one saying how much they loved the show etc... More of us need to let them know that we see what's going on.

"It appears that the code to the NBC e-mail system works like this. For example if you wanted to e-mail Ben Silverman co-chairman of NBC Entertainment his address would be ben.silverman@nbcuni.com - first name, then a period, then last name."
http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/bios.nbc

If, due to the strike, we really do have a few weeks snail mail can't hurt either:

Programming Department NBC 3000 W. Alameda Burbank, CA 91523


http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000014/thread...7812197&p=1
#87812197
Rood_Inverse
QUOTE (Niff @ Nov 10 2007, 11:42 AM) *
The "all in one sitting" marathon is a great idea. That's how I got hooked on Heroes. They played the first 4 or 5 episodes on a Sunday evening, and my husband and I watched them all. We couldn't wait to keep watching on Mondays. Also, I noticed that NBC hardly hypes Journeyman at all. Their promos seem to be "On Chuck,....this this and this...blah, blah, blah....... On Heroes, what will happen? Who's good, who's next? ..... What's this one up to, what's that one up to etc. etc. etc. ........ (Then Journeyman next.)

Of COURSE they don't get the ratings for it!

I'm sorry, but that's so perfect it just made me laugh. That's exactly what seems to be going on!

I was poking around the feedback section and came across an ad for Journeyman which apparently mistakenly ended up with Deal Or No Deal's broadcast times on it. I was thrilled when I thought they had actually moved it to what looked like Wednesday and Friday at 8. That was too good to be true.

But then my next thought was, Why the heck does some game show need two nights at 8PM? They really ought to give this show a chance in Wednesday's time slot.

I know that's probably already been suggested several times, but getting my hopes dashed by that ad just made me want to repeat it...
lost_dvd_fan
QUOTE (Niff @ Nov 10 2007, 11:42 AM) *
Also, I noticed that NBC hardly hypes Journeyman at all.



I have to agree..... Personally, I have DirecTV and no access to NBC (rabbit ears don't pull in the station and I'm to cheap to buy at $100 antenna). I watch my NBC (and ABC) "must see TV" online.

I first saw promos for Heroes during summer 2006 on SciFi Channel. I was VERY intrigued and was a fan from the get go. Love that show. After watching the Nov 5th episode of Heroes with my daughter, she asked if NBC had any other shows online. I had heard just a little (very little) about Bionic Woman (I think they are airing this on SciFi too and that is where I saw something about it?). Anyway, a few days later I watched all the BW episodes online that I could (missed out on the first 3-4 episodes). While I was watching those online episodes I saw the online ads for Journeyman. Repeatedly. I thought it was an add for a movie. It was only when I was later clicking around at NBC.com that I realized Journeyman was a TV series. I watched the earliest episode that was available online (again the 3rd or 4th episode) and was hooked immediately.

All that to say to NBC: promote your product!! This is a good show. Well conceived and executed. But poorly promoted. Get on the ball NBC!!! Run that Saturday Journeyman Marathon on SciFi channel over the Thanksgiving weekend and see what happens to ratings. It worked great last season for Heroes.

Heroes, by the way, is an awesome show .... after just a few episodes it took the top spot in my "must see" list away from Lost.... and has kept that top billing. Now all they need do is make Journeyman good enough to make the "must see" list. Unfortunately, I don't think it has the potential to take second billing on my "must see" list, but what I have seen thus far has made it "wanna see" if not "must see".
Jnta
'Jericho' Reruns Airing on Sci Fi

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20173220,00.html
Jnta
QUOTE (Jnta @ Jan 23 2008, 11:02 AM) *
'Jericho' Reruns Airing on Sci Fi

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20173220,00.html

Sorry, but I don't understand why this post was moved under this topic, it has no suggestion of what to do to save the show. It was simply informative. I understand trying to consolidate, I just don't understand the reasoning here.
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