herecomestrouble
Oct 13 2007, 04:47 PM
Ugh! Whom are supposed to root for in this perfectly torturous love triangle? Andy? Dwight? Angela? Garbage?
On the one hand, Dwight loves Angela, thought he was saving her from having to watch poor Sprinkles die a miserable death, and genuninely tried to make it up to her. But he never understood her pain, or even thought about the ramifications of killing her best friend. Did he get what he deserved, or does he deserve to be forgiven? Ack! I don't know!
And on the other side of the triangle, Andy is really sincere in wooing Angela. He never approached her until he heard she was looking. That speaks volumes about his "new" character. He listens to her needs, and responds to her with gentleness and sweetness. He's trying so hard, that it's difficult not to want him to end up getting the girl. I would hate to see Andy crushed. (Its hard enough watching Dwight so crushed).
And then there is Angela. Far from perfect herself, I have begun to wonder if Angela deserves either of them. But I do understand her point of view in dumping Dwight. She is going through some serious grief. Andy has been very supportive and helpful. But up until he mercy killed her cat, Angela has loved Dwight. I keep thinking back to Traveling Salesmen and The Return. Seeing Dwight defeated really made Angela reevaluate some of her own flaws. They are good for each other.
Then there is the new alliance between Dwight and Andy. To be honest, I love this pairing, and would like to see it continue. If Andy and Angela get/stay together, I see it falling apart quickly, and the shunning resuming. So maybe it would be best for all if Andy stopped his pursuit of Angela, Dwight got over her, and Angela gets to be the miserable one.
I tell ya, The Jim/Pam/Roy/Karen quadrangle was a whole heck of a lot easier to navigate. The choice was clear. This one, not so much. So let's vote about it.
Office_holic
Oct 13 2007, 05:01 PM
I'm sure I'll have stones thrown at me.......its only natural

But Andy is not the man for Angela be it temporary or permanent. No way!
Dwight and Angela are on similar planes such as:
- rule following
- do as I say not as I do
- serious about their work
- both are emotionally stunted
- they know what they want but are scared
- feeling the need to oneupmanship
- privacy or secrecy fuels/fueled their romance
They are both in deep emotional pain and acting out to each other and the public. I want to rewatch "Lunch Party" and look for a few more clues then I will add to this.
Team Dwangela till I die.
Lenny9987
Oct 13 2007, 05:07 PM
I think that once Angela gets over Sprinkles death she's going to regret having been so mean to Dwight about it all (plus, when she realizes how much she's saving on ped meds she'll see the practical side

). Also, she'll feel guilty if she is unable to forgive him (at least, that's what I'm hoping; how can she sit in church listening to them talk about forgiveness and not feel guilty?).
Plus, Andy's ways of wooing may be sweet, but they're far too public for Angela. It's the little things that she likes (the key on Valentine's Day, a private dance at the wedding, etc.).
fancynewsammy
Oct 13 2007, 05:13 PM
Although Dwight tried to do the humane thing for the cat (and for Angela) he once again overstepped his authority. Normally Angela is all too happy to see Dwight take charge, but this time he went too far. He has to regain her trust, to really understand her point of view (and she his) and earn her forgiveness. I think that will (and should) happen, and that they'll ultimately end up together again.
Andy really is trying hard, but I don't believe his transformation is complete. Note his slight annoyance when he thought she wasn't listening to him. He still has a huge capacity for anger and frustration, and I think Angela's judgemental, demanding nature might ultimately drive him over the edge. Don't put away the spackle just yet.
Bailey08
Oct 13 2007, 05:17 PM
Dwight and Angela are meant to be. But, wow, did the appeal of Andy/Angela take me by surprise.
It's going to be fun to watch, but the show established four couples. And I want those four couples to be together. Andy is a speed bump- but a gosh darn cute one!
I love Dwight/Andy's friendship. This triangle hurts me from that angle, too.
mixedberries_1
Oct 13 2007, 05:23 PM
Angela and Dwight all the way baby!
. . . . but I'm willing to selfishly sit back and enjoy Andy trying to talk Angela and us into it.
scrantonparty
Oct 13 2007, 06:03 PM
I think Angela and Andy need to get together for a little, and that will be what shows Angela that Dwight is the guy for her. I mean, Andy's efforts are cute, but can you really see them together? Andy would drive her up a wall! I think we'll see a big curve this season and Dwangela will be back together by the finale.
jamfanatic
Oct 13 2007, 06:10 PM
As of right now, I think that Andy and Anglea should at least try it. I say this because, when Andy was first introduce yeah he was annoying, but through S3 and up until now we have seen some real character development. The first time I really started liking Andy was when he found out his girlfriend was in HS, I know that sounds weird, but stay with me here. My heart just broke for him! But then again maybe he deserves someone better then Angela. well whatever happens with Dwight/Angela/Andy, it is totally funny and alot less angsty then JAM, and I am thrilled with this.
bubblewrap_1
Oct 13 2007, 06:19 PM
I love Dwight and Angela- but this idea of Andy and Angela has got me so confused

Him singing to her was the cutest thing

I'm still on the side of Dwight and Angela though- but I wouldn't mind seeing Andy and Angela together for just a few episodes
LegZoff
Oct 13 2007, 07:13 PM
Andy's serenading Angela was hilarious. Andy's singing, with phone backup, was perfect. Angela's minimal response was perfect. And then to see the office crew standing there watching topped it all off. For me it was one of the great "Office" scenes.
Office_holic
Oct 13 2007, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (bubblewrap @ Oct 13 2007, 07:19 PM)

but I wouldn't mind seeing Andy and Angela together for just a few episodes
Then Angela can take the Office Mattress name
awaterbuffalo
Oct 13 2007, 08:09 PM
I don't think Andy or Dwight are going to win Angela's heart back.. She's a severe woman, I could see her with another chick...
Lenny9987
Oct 13 2007, 08:17 PM
Angela does hold a grudge as proved by her fifteen year battle with her sister. Maybe she won't take Dwight back
PaxLux
Oct 13 2007, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (mixedberries @ Oct 13 2007, 05:23 PM)

Angela and Dwight all the way baby!
. . . . but I'm willing to selfishly sit back and enjoy Andy trying to talk Angela and us into it.

I'm with you, mixedberries! Woooo!
queenofengland
Oct 13 2007, 09:24 PM
Andy's a nice guy and one of my favorite characters, but he'll never truly win Angela's heart. He's too much of a people-pleaser, while Angela finds everyone in the world who doesn't meet her high expectations insufferable. Dwight's authoritative and masculine (not to mention jackhammer, merciless, and alpha-male) personality excites her, and Andy has none of that. I think Angela will secretly enjoy being chased by him, but it won't be because she truly cares about him. This season it's all going to be a road back to Dwangela.
Collapsing_Star
Oct 14 2007, 09:56 AM
QUOTE (LegZoff @ Oct 13 2007, 08:13 PM)

Andy's serenading Angela was hilarious. Andy's singing, with phone backup, was perfect. Angela's minimal response was perfect. And then to see the office crew standing there watching topped it all off. For me it was one of the great "Office" scenes.
I'm with you LO. I have the entire episode twice but I've watched that scene about five times. And I've laughed out loud every time. I would put this in my top five Office scenes of all time. Everything about it was hilarious and touching. Classic Office.
* The creativity of the speakerphone serenade.
* The look on Andy's face was a combination of sincerity and effort.
* Angela's hard to suppress smile.
* Everyone watching (especially Kelly's reactions because she LOVES this stuff. Watch her in the background and you'll love how they even hit the details).
Andy's made some serious strides. He didn't lose it when Jim mocked him and Jim let him off the hook a little. He really weas trying to impress her by listening to her. He recognized previous mistakes by telling Angela that he knows she found him repulsive (and maybe still does). He's been making friends. Dwight, obviously. He gave Jim the fist pump when JAM was outed. He interacted well with Kevin in DMI. And he's the best looking available guy in the office! Gotta like Andy's character development.
mambo_no_5
Oct 14 2007, 12:06 PM
I honestly would love to see a little Andy/Angela thing going on. Just for a little while. You could tell that Andy wasnt just looking for a fling or hook up when he did the phone trio haha. I mean, that'd be part of it, but I really felt like Andy actually likes Angela. I can see them having a thing for just a bit but Angela would obviousley still have feelings for Dwight and they'd get back together. As weird as it sounds, that might make me sad because Andy has really grown on me! I think the gestures in the last episode really gained him points in my book.
MissyMooMoo19
Oct 14 2007, 03:22 PM
*growl* well i can see how Angela is mad at dwight... he killed her cat! But she needs to learn how to live love and forgive!!! (i think thats how the saying goes...) She totally needs to forgive Dwight he was just putting the cat out of its misery! It was probably going to die anyway. I think Andy should go back to wherever he came from because he is just obnoxious!! So i hope that Angela forgives Dwight!!! TAKE HIM BACK!!!!!
herecomestrouble
Oct 15 2007, 12:22 PM
Wow. Some of you are so sure about Dwangela. It makes me feel badly for doubting. I do think that they truly love each other. I think back to Benihana Christmas and the way Dwight says, "Hey! Its Angela!" even after he's had kind of a rough day and the way he holds her hand. They are so sweet.
But I have to say, I feel like I have had about as much entertainment from Dwight and Angela's secret love affair as they have to offer. It was great for season 2 and 3, but now, I think I am ready for something different. What I would really like to see is Angry!Rejected!Angela for awhile. And I would love to see Dwandy together as BFFs rocking the irritating train for all time. That would be great TV.
Well, that's how I feel today. I am sure I will wish I could change my vote in a week or two.
Jazzman_1
Oct 15 2007, 12:35 PM
I'm pulling for Andy on this one. Dwight has no concept of sensitivity to other people's feelings; that's been demonstrated too many times to count. Andy is prepared to do something a little wild and crazy to get a response from Angela. Which approach would the ladies favour?
I'm betting on Abba and 3-part harmony every time.
sharladawn
Oct 15 2007, 11:54 PM
I have to admit, I kind of like the new angle they've thrown at us. I found myself being torn between both Dwight and Andy during this last episode. Ugh! It's so hard to choose! But I think ultimately, Dwangela will reign supreme.
Jazzman_1
Oct 16 2007, 07:14 AM
Not if I have anything to say about it. Dwight has some admirable qualities, but a leading man / significant other isn't one of them.
Ladies, which would you prefer: a humourless, taciturn, control freak who killed your beloved cat, or a guy looks like he's turned himself around, and willingly embarrassed himself in front of his co-workers by going to the effort of setting up a conference call just to sing you a silly song?
Lenny9987
Oct 16 2007, 08:24 AM
I understand your point Jazzman but it isn't just any lady. It's Angela we're talking about here. She likes the way Dwight can be a little severe and she understands him in ways that no other woman would. They lasted for two years for a reason and I think it's just a matter of time before Angela forgives him.
What Andy did was sweet but that kind of attention where it's so on display like that can be embarrassing to more than just him. The phone thing, while sweet, seemed to me to be a bit of a ploy for attention from more than just Angela.
herecomestrouble
Oct 16 2007, 08:34 AM
QUOTE (Jazzman @ Oct 16 2007, 07:14 AM)

Not if I have anything to say about it. Dwight has some admirable qualities, but a leading man / significant other isn't one of them.
Ladies, which would you prefer: a humourless, taciturn, control freak who killed your beloved cat, or a guy looks like he's turned himself around, and willingly embarrassed himself in front of his co-workers by going to the effort of setting up a conference call just to sing you a silly song?
I would rather be the victim of a bear attack than date Dwight. But
Lenny is right ... I am not Angela. A lot of Dwight's flaws are Angela's as well, therefore neither of them sees them as flaws. Dwight and Angela have their own kind of humor ... like when talking about Meredith in FR -- "I wouldn't put it past her." And the controlling and taciturn parts of their personalities they share in common and that bonds them. Angela doesn't like some of Dwight's more acceptable qualities, like his tenacious loyalty to Michael.
The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that as Andy gets to know Angela, it will be him that is turned off and walks the other way. Can you imagine anger managment grad living in Angela's wake all the time? Yikes. Really, she and Dwight belong together.
BlueTurfBronco1
Oct 16 2007, 12:30 PM
I'm rooting for Dwight in this one. Lenny has a good point with the sensitivity subject though. When I found out Dwight mercy killed Angela's cat by sticking it in a freezer I was shocked, even for Dwight. But Dwight can be forgiven for this eventually and his trying to replace Sprinkles with Garbage, though odd, was very sweet. This didn't however change the fact that Andy is way too outgoing for Angela. What made me like Dwangela from the start was the way they were willing to keep the relationship a secret for years. The secrecy and covert signs of affection worked for them really well.
On the complete opposite side of the spectrum you have Andy who's first move towards Angela was to serenade her in front of the entire office. I can't see Angela getting used to that type of behavior.
Diapers
Feb 19 2008, 02:33 AM
Dwight deserves the girl, but I'm totally cool with them dragging out the Andy thing for a while. It's obvious that Dwight and Angela belong together, even more so than JAM (there, I said it). I'd still like to see Andy Drew find a good woman for himself.
Fancy_New_Becca
Mar 12 2008, 09:32 PM
I'm with ya diapers, I'm cool with them dragging on andy and angela. I think andy and angela are actually kinda cute together.
Pam_Halpert_1
Mar 14 2008, 12:31 PM
yeah I agree! I kinda always wanted to see what Andy and Angela would be like together. I mean I know that in the long run Dwangela is where it is at, but that does not mean we can't see what Angela would be like with other guys along the way.
I think both relationships have their positives and negatives! I am looking forward to seeing this plot line play out. You have to admit Andy as a foil is always a good thing. ( at least I think so

)
MichaelSchrute
Mar 14 2008, 10:32 PM
If Dwight does not end up with Angela then for the sake of all thats holy I hope something happens for him, he needs to snap out of it one way or the other.
Fancy_New_Becca
Mar 29 2008, 06:15 AM
it only seems right though doesn't it michael that Dwight and Angela finally end up together. I enjoy the fact that andy finds angela hot. He's really like dwight only with a college degree
AliceLee
Mar 31 2008, 08:28 PM
I support Andy.
I used to back up for Dwight.
Well, I think it'd better for Angela to try a new relationship.
What's ture love anyway.
Fancy_New_Becca
Apr 1 2008, 02:39 PM
dwight fighting for angela in a weird public/non public way will be funny to watch for sure. I like seeing angela with someone new like andy. makes me wonder what is it about the other person, that appeals to her. Getting to see more of what makes angela tick is so interesting to me.
DarthSchrute
Apr 10 2008, 01:51 PM
I just realized that Andy must be a very forgiving or very forgetful person to still want to pursue Angela after the Beach Games Sabotage. He was stuck in the lake well into the dark because of Angela and I don't think they ever addressed how or when he was rescued.
I would think that would be something that someone wouldn't forget too easily. But then if Angela were to do that to me, I probably couldn't hold it against her for long either...
Fancy_New_Becca
Apr 11 2008, 01:20 AM
Angela has never been a warm person really but tonight I was really wondering how does she put up with andy? Andy seems to really like her and wants her to like him back. I'm starting to feel so bad for andy if angela dumps him soon.
So funny darth you mention the beach games and sabotage. She could be sabotaging both dwight and andy.

She's a dangerous woman who will not be scourned.
polly1990
Sep 30 2008, 12:26 PM
All this talk of the Andy/Dwight/Angela triangle had me thinking. What if Andy and Dwight decided to go head to head in a fight to the death for Angela's tiny hand in marriage? I think it would be pretty epic. I was going to make this into a poll, but I decided to leave it more open-ended. Who would win and why? What kind of a "show-down" would they have? Where would it take place?
Even without Angela, Dwight and Andy are somewhat easy to compare and contrast. Their characters are almost two sides of the same coin. We all know this is coming, so we might as well speculate before it actually happens.
As for me, I think Dwight would win. I don't say that from my bias per se, I just feel that Dwight's martial art training, pepper spray, and over all awesomness makes him the victor.
Rainn Wilson actually said he wished he could see a showdown between Dwight and Andy. He said he'd like for it to be a Mortal Kombat type thing, all-over the office, for an entire episode. I think it's a great idea.
Jazzman_1
Sep 30 2008, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (polly1990 @ Sep 30 2008, 01:26 PM)

All this talk of the Andy/Dwight/Angela triangle had me thinking. What if Andy and Dwight decided to go head to head in a fight to the death for Angela's tiny hand in marriage? I think it would be pretty epic. I was going to make this into a poll, but I decided to leave it more open-ended. Who would win and why? What kind of a "show-down" would they have? Where would it take place?
Who gets her, the winner or the loser?
DunMiff__sys
Sep 30 2008, 05:34 PM
I think Dwight would win. I think he deserves Angela more than Andy. I just don't see Andy as the fighting type. Of course, I don't think it should be a fight to the death, it should be like the fight between Michael and Dwight at the dojo-if it were ever an option to air.
Dwight would do anything for/to get back Angela, this includes beat the living you-know-what out of Andy.
Nurfin
Sep 30 2008, 08:55 PM
If weapons are allowed Dwight would win...sans weapons gotta be Andy...he punched a hole through a frickin' wall. Dwight is too much of a natural rule follower to win in a no holds barred cage match. Andy has much more of a killer instinct. Lest we forget Andy had Dwight fired a couple of seasons ago.
With all that said Dwight and Angela are much more compatible so although Andy would win in a street fight I think it makes more sense for Dwight and Angela to reform like Voltron.
Bailey08
Oct 1 2008, 01:40 AM
Hey polly1990, just letting you know that I merged your thread into a thread for the Andy/Angela/Dwight triangle. It's all under the same umbrella. Thanks for understanding.

PS- Dwight is going to win Angela's heart (well, he already has it) and he would physically hurt Andy. But I still love Andy and feel bad for him.
Soccerabster
Nov 11 2008, 01:30 PM
Dwight and Angela...what is going on? At the beginning of the season they're sneaking around, then they break-up (for realsies) and then Dwight makes an ultimatum, and now Angela wants to have her wedding at Schrute farms. And what was with the tag of Costumer Survey? Angela and Dwight were having their own private conversation just with their smiles. How does Angela know what will happen when you roll over? When was she on the floor of Dwight's barn???? Anyway, the wedding is now officially out of Andy's hands, and Angela wants Dwight paid whatever he wants. Of course, Andy is still oblivious to the fact that Dwight and Angela are having their own silent communications. Can't wait until the new episode! Maybe we'll see more of the triangle, considering...well, for anyone who hasn't read the synopsis I won't say anything here for those who consider it a spoiler. Anyway, comment if you have anything to say about Dwangeldy! Or anything else for that matter. See ya!
Jazzman_1
Nov 14 2008, 08:45 AM
QUOTE (store_number_four @ Sep 30 2008, 08:55 PM)

If weapons are allowed Dwight would win...sans weapons gotta be Andy...he punched a hole through a frickin' wall.
So have I. Besides, it was only 1/2" drywall.
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