Which couple are you rooting for? I mean, the idea of losing the 'love of your life' , moving on with a wonderful person and then when you least expect it - you have the chance to see that other person again? Talk about a complicated and emotional situation.

What would you do if you were Dan?

I vote for Katie. First of all, Dan has a kid with her, and I'm not a home wrecker. Secondly, I think Katie genuinely loves Dan. I think she loved him back when she was dating Jack, and was afraid to face it.

As for Livia - I don't trust her. She had been time travelling before she met Dan - how come she never told him? I know it's a far fetched thing to tell someone, but still, wouldn't you want the person you are going to marry know that about you?

I was rooting for Livia.....until this last episode [3].
Now I am more impressed with Katie, and disappointed in Livia.
Here's why:

- Livia didn't tell Dan about her time-traveling....She knew that she could have disappeared at any moment, and she didn't prepare Dan for it....Yes, as VBarkley said above, it would be a far-fetched thing for him to believe...but he would have been prepared for it, and perhaps been reluctant to get another relationship going, until he found out for sure that she was gone forever.

- Katie seems to be supportive of Dan's little predicament with his time-trips....She even jumped in and performed a masterful 'save' on that story he was working on, and let him take full credit it for it....That was a very generous thing for her to do.....They have a kid together, and it's a good thing if they stay together.

I agree with you completely. Seeing Katie support Dan like she did and then to find out that Livia kept that major secret from Dan really says something. Plus Katie and Dan have a kid. That in and of itself should make the decision pretty clear.

Nice to see some feedback.

it's just such a tragic situation...how many who have lost loved ones DREAM of getting to see them again? To touch them again? and he is actually given that chance. I was very impressed with him in episode 2 ( I think?) when he had the chance to make love to Livia, but didn't.

Just remember the old adage, you can't go home again. That's how I feel about Dan and Livia. Their relationship should stay in the past. Katey and Dan seem to have an adult relationship and a family. They should stay together. If Dan and Livia were meant to be together, they would have made their relationship more permanent when they were together, the fact that they didn't speaks volumes.

No contest.. Katie... Beautiful, understanding like crazy. Livia's a dream. Dark and mysterious. Katie's a rock, Livia's a vapor.

Agreed Veebs. Katie is solid, unselfishly loves Dan, and is the mother of his child.

I do. not. trust. Livia.

I think through whatever twists of fate, Dan ended up with the right woman, and his wanderings will make that very clear to him.

Durinf the flashback when Livia was distracting Katie from seeing Dan, they were talking a little bit about their relationships, and how those Vassar boys don't want to make a commitment.

Fact: Jack didn't want to make a permanent commitment with Katie
Fact: Dan didn't want to make a permanent commitment with Livia
Fact: Dan did marry Katie

And even though Katie was cold to Dan at times in episode 4, I think this speaks volumes about their relationship.

I voted Katie for a lot of the reasons you guys voted for her: she's just a better person.

I voted for kati she nice

To me, these two women are the weakest part of the show. Livia is essentially an element of Dan's past. How real is she? She will always be just out of his reach. I want to like Katie, but the writers have given her character a thankless task. No matter what she does, her prime responsibility on this show is to grimace whenever Dan's journeying screws up the routines of their life together. I've reached the point that I don't like to see her show up in a scene. I know I'm going to see her standing there with her jaw set in frustration. It was okay for a while but it's getting old. I feel sort of sorry for the actress playing her.

Definitely Livia. There seems to be a real live spark between her and Dan. Whereas Dan's relationship with Katie seems kind of tired and worn down. She couldn't even be honest with him about wanting to get pregnant. She just let him believe one thing and did another.

I think a lot of people are way too hard on Katie. What sets this series apart from other time travel shows like Quantum Leap, is that it actually takes a serious look at how being tossed around in time would effect a person's life and relationships. I think that Katie is behaving in a very realistic way. This is a big adjustment, to say the least. Yes she's jealous, but she's also afraid for Dan's life. She's annoyed that he wasn't there to escort her to the event, but when he does show up, he's obviously physically and emotionally disheveled and packing a gun. In spite of her own distress, she still covers for him. I also think that this show is taking a more realistic view of marriage than most. You have two people totally devoted to one another, but it’s still hard, especially when the totally unexpected enters into the mix. As for Livia, she doesn't really stick around long enough for many of us to become invested in the character. The heart of this show isn't time travel, but relationships, and IMO that's this show's true strength.

Well my vote put them equal. I chose Livia--from prevoius visions and such, Dan seems more at ease with Livia. But to be fair to Katie, his wife, we dont know what brought those two together after Livia's death. Although Jacks drinking may have had something to do with it. Katie seemed to like Dan before Livia died (thinking of the scene of the foursome celebrating the engagement of Dan and Livia).

Katie is his wife...she deserves for Dan to be focused on that. I do like Livia more...but wonder if they could ever have had a NORMAL relationship since they both are time travelers and now they are both in different times.

Its a good show. I like it.

whoa where does that come from? Livia and Dan were engaged to be married when she disappeared. That's a pretty serious committment. Dan doesn't seem to have any issue with the "c-word"

Just based on the conversation between Livia and Katie. Yeah, they were engaged, but from what Livia said, I don't think Dan was in any hurry to get married.

I'm actually surprised at the poll results so far. 12-12 It seems a lot of people have commented on why they would pick Katie but not many comments for Livia, however the poll is neck to neck. With such an even poll in would think the comments too would be pretty even but they're not.

I personally picked Katie (and listed my reasons) but to those who picked Livia I like hear your reasons too. It'll make this poll and thread a little more interesting.

My thoughts on why I pick Livia. There seems to be a lot more passion between her and Dan as compared to Katie. My evidence would be Dan's expression when Livia kissed him in the closet. Although there was some intimacy between Dan and Katie in the coat closet at the event, it seemed more forced and less passionate. Livia fits into the 'young love' ideal with Dan because she looks so much younger than Katie (although she is only two years younger in real life). I feel in that respect that Katie was miscast. Dan and Katie are obviously strained because of the current situation, so we'll have to see how that pans out but the strain should not be indicative of their love. Ultimately it'll all come down to Livia's rationalization for why she became involved in time travel. It seems she still loves Dan, and if the writers determined a situation in which she was 'forced' into time travel despite her love for Dan, her and Dan should win out.

Well, I think that passion might have to do a little with the fact that Livia hadn't seen Dan for 8 or 9 years (I can't remember how many). Katie and Dan have been married for 7 years, and things tend to slow down after a while, but they sure had a lot of passion at the end of this week's episode.

To be perfectly honest I can't decide... I really like Livia. Not really sure why, something about the way they interact or something. But I also really don't like the idea of breaking up his family. I could only see that happen if Katie's character turns into someone she's different from now. I could almost see that happening at first, but I really like watching Dan fight for his marriage and his family! If it was just that, and Katie's character was not contributing at all, I'd still be rooting for Dan and Katie I think, just because you so rarely see someone fighting so hard these days. Or at least, it seems that way.

I agree, I wish we would see more people truly fight for their families.

I agree with everything LegZoff said and would add that Katie's character is written very poorly and so unrealistic. What woman who truly loves a man wouldn't believe her husband and more importantly would want to know everything about this "new" aspect of their relationship and their life and get involved with it! I would want to participate and know all that I could. Her whining and complaining and horrible facial expressions are just annoying and not normal.

I think Katie just doesn't like change, and as a reporter, she only believes in what she can see. She's afraid of things she can't understand. I think that's perfectly normal. A lot of marriages break up over less than your husband being gone for days, then he shows up and tells you he's a time traveler.

Sounds like you're a pretty strong, supportive, and trusting person. Those are all really good qualities its just that not everyone is like that. I think Katie's character is actually written very well, played very well and believable. I wish my wife would be supportive if I was gone like that but I have a feeling she would act very much like the way Katie is acting. It doesn't help that Jack is constanly feeding negative ideas about Dan either. All it takes is one thought in the opposite direction to potentialy undermind a strong supportive resolve.

I answered Livia, at first I thought mainly because she knows what's going on, or at least lets on she does. So she seems more understanding of what Dan is going through, and easier to see him with.

Plus, I can close my eyes and 'see' Livia - sadly, I can't remember his wife's face. Whether Livia is a more interesting character (certainly has a more interesting existence than Dan's wife) or what, I pick Livia.

I too at first pick Livia with the mysterious character. Who wouldn't feel for a beautiful relationship cut short by forces beyond them. The series still have to delve deeper on how much broken Dan was when Livia was "lost" in the plane crash, how he recovered and all. But it seems the writers are holding back on this by holding back Livia from revealing more details about herself and the mystery of time travelling. It seems Dan is even getting irritated about it too when in Episode 5, in the scene in front of the hotdog stand he asked Livia, "What are you still doing here?" The writers better make her more relevant in future episodes or else Dan would always be askng this question. And for lesser reasons, If they don't, I'll be picking Katie as my favorite in the next thread. She's developing well as a main character as the show goes on.

I voted for Katie. The way she has dealt with the whole travelling issue is pretty on par with how I think most any loving couple would deal with it. Anger, confusion, joy(when the loved one comes home), strength(to keep going when they are gone). It's just how I would deal with it if my wife had the same abilities.

Also, Katie stuck up for Dan in front of Jack in this episode. She told Jack to butt out, that this was a private family matter. Jack said he was family. Yeah Jack, you're Dan's brother, but don't put yourself in the middle of their marriage.

I say Katie for many of the reasons above, loyalty, kid... blah blah blah. But I also think that Livia is his mentor. She says that when they were dating she hadn't traveled for a while, and she says at one point that she seems to be "tracking" him. What if the whole time she was with him, she was really just on a long term "mission", to keep him in line so that he'd be able to take up his position when the time came? Maybe he was supposed to be with Katie all along, and she had to leave to get the time line back.... Maybe I should be posting on the "Theories" thread. Sorry. Still, I think it should be Katie.

I really like that theory! That's really good and I think I agree with you 100%!!!

I can't wait to see Katie's reaction to learning that little Zach saw daddy's 'magic'.

That's my thoughts too, and I do think the idea has been mentioned on a different thread

I really like Dan's relationship with Katie. They feel like a real married couple to me. I think that Katie's problems have more to do with what they must have gone through with Dan's addiction, but she has gone this far with him and I think she will continue. I personally don't blame her for being a little frustrated, she always comes around in the end. As for Livia, we have not really seen much of what Dan's realtionship was like with her. There were those brief scenes in the pilot, but when they are together now I don't get a feel that the passion is still there.

Yea me too, if i was Dan i'd take a week off from work and make her take time too. Then let's test some things. can you take people with you? does anyone other than zach see you leave? start timeing your departure and arrival see if anything is consitant (ie, 1min travel time = 2 mins gone). Come on work the system. place bets... small bets. mail things to like a post offfice box, see if you can send instant messages through it. come on get creative.

I would love to see that. Yes! Research this thing.
We've seen him take objects. I've been curious too, if he can take another person with him.
The danger would be in getting them back.
Dan doesn't seem to get the advance notice of a headache, on the return trips.

I tend to agree with LegZoff on this. With regards to Livia, I'm slowly getting tired of Livia's routine protectiveness over the whole secret of time travel and her role in it. Why can't she just say more? Even Dan Vasser seem to have gotten tired of it too that in the last show (episode 5) when he asked her, "What are you still doing here?" If she doesn't what to be frustrated over Dan's seeming missteps in dealing with the past why doesn't she just give him more info, throw him a bone with some meat or something, for us viewers too.

I haven't voted on this yet, but truthfully as of this moment I can't stand either one of them. For those of you that think Katie's whiny nagging behavior is normal let's understand she had a pretty high-powered career before she married Dan and gave it up for some reason we have yet to be told. It would be very unusual for a woman who made it in such a competitive career in SF to be as weak and as needy as Katie seems to be. I think the actress needs to try a different approach. I don't think her irritating behavior is necessarily inherent in the dialog.

Livia is just a b**ch. She treats Dan as if they were in High School and he's the flavor of her month. I'm fast losing interest in her silly games. It's completely ludicrous that she would assume Dan would sit around for 8 years and never be involved with another woman.

What bothers me so much about both of these women is that they are so selfish. I'd like to see some balance. Can either of them revolve with Dan instead of having him revolve around them? Can either of them stop their games and consider what might be going on with him? What value do either of them bring to his life? He hides things and protects them both from what's going on and each other which makes me wonder what the creators of this show are trying to say... I'd hate to think women are this hopelessly needy and unable to cope.

I don't think it's been 8 years for Livia. We still have no idea how long it's been for her... for all we know, it could have been a lot less.

Anyway, I voted Livia, but that's just for purely selfish reasons. I honestly think he should stay with Katie, just because she's stable, she loves him, they have a kid, and they're married. She also watches his back and helps him get through this difficult time. That's a real partnership there.

I have to go with Katie. She's obviously, genuinely in love with him and devoted to him, and dealing with an almost impossible situation. She's the one who's left at home to hold things together. Livia is this mistress of the aether, there is no potential for permanence there, it just feels wrong to me.

Katie is the better mate, yes. But (for me), Livia is easier on the eyes.

I think Dan is screwed. Real married couples can only take "normal" problems for so long. But think of the drastic implications sudden spontaneous time travel can have for a relationship...

I voted for Livia b/c I thought she looked hotter. But after I voted, I realized this is voting for which couple we support more. In that case, I would vote for Katie. After all, Dan is married to Katie with a son. And she has been pretty understanding with Dan's situation so far. But I would like this show to have Dan's wife & son more involved (helping most of the time, but conflicting in some) with Dan's time-traveling, life-fixing side job.

I like the drama & rivalry btwn brothers played out btwn Dan and Jack. But I would like to see Jack eventually (probably quite a bit later on since there is still a lot can be played about the relationship btwn the two before the secret is revealed) become a part of the "Vasser team".

I vote for Livia. I understand the logic of wanting Dan to be with Katie for the sake of his kid, but don't forget this is a fictional show. Let's not project moral code into this question, especially when keeping them together will make the show less interesting and quite whiny. Dan and Livia make much sexier couple. Their chemistry is quite apparent. If the writers were to dig deeper into Dan and Livia's relationship, I think this show will get better ratings. Katie, so far, is too whiny, and I still can't get over her being engaged to Dan's brother. Sleeping with your brother's fiance is not what I call exactly romantic. Also, Katie and Dan lack chemistry. I don't see anything sexy about them being affectionate.

I think this show should kill whole Katie and Dan's struggle for stable family. It should be about Dan solving mysteries or crimes while time traveling.

Katie was never engaged to Jack. Jack didn't want to make a commitment or have children at that point in his life.

I think it was kind of irresponsible of Livia to enter into a relationship with Dan, even to the point of getting engaged to him, knowing that she herself was a time traveler and could trip at any time.

I think Liv - it was meant to be. Moon is SUCH a good actress - the pain she feels (portrays) when she sees or hears Dan talk about his life or Kate...wow! Liv really loved him - also a genuine love knows no jealousy. Katie was instantly jealous when she found out Dan sees Liv. Liv's attitude was not one of jealously she said "you (Dan) deserves to be happy and is happy for him even though it pains her!
She also has a certain acceptance (and maybe knowledge) about things that seems to be lost on Dan both about time travel and their love. I also liked what someone else said - maybe somewhere down the road (if they take the time to let the show grow and gain the popularity it has the potential for) Liv and Dan will be together again. Maybe Liv will have to help Dan grieve Katie - maybe she (Liv) has already been there...

In one of the earlier episode, Livia told Dan that she thought she won't be time travelling anymore after they've been together for awhile. Surely the chance of her disappearing anytime wasn't totally gone, but lets give her a break. The writers of the show still haven't fully elaborated on her own journeys. In my own opinion she seem like a tragic victim of all the time travelling thing she's been doing because that became like a death sentence for her. Its hard for her to have a relationship for the fear of it suddenly evaporating, but with Dan she took the risk. Maybe for her it was worth it even for awhile.

I think it would work against the show to have Dan be unfaithful to Katie. After all, he is going back in time to save people's lives. He healed his own life in terms of his gambling addiction. He clearly loves his wife and thier life together. I think that's an important part of the show. We shouldn't see him struggling to figure out who he is - he already knows that. I also think his commitment to his wife makes him a sexy and intriguing leading man. If he cheated, I know I wouldn't find him as attractive.

Normally woman who date brothers do not have my respect, but in Katie's case she seems to truely love Dan and has stood behind him after all the travelling drama and is the mother of his child. Livia on the other hand knew about her travelling while she was engaged to Dan and decided not to share this with him thus making her not my candidate for a good mate.

Most definitely agreed! Especially that last part.

I, more or less, expect Dan to come up against the whole gambling temptation thing from time to time, yeah. But, a good, committed marriage is rare enough on television to be thoroughly refreshing when it comes along. I know it's a bit early on to be afraid of this, but I'd be terribly disappointed if either Dan or Katie ended up cheating. If there's any one horribly overused cliché I can completely do without, that's it, big time.

The possible exception to that would be some weird set of circumstances where we find out that Dan only ended up with Katie so that his son could be born and grow up to do great, important things, etc, etc. But that would be oh so screwy - and, even then, I still don't think I would want them to throw infidelity in there...

Call me old-fashioned.