Wow.

This was a gutwrenching episode to watch.
Lots of action too.

The look on Dan's face when Katie walked into that card game....whoa.
Kudos to Kevin McKidd!
That was an amazing scene.

And what was it that Livia brought back from Dan's house in the future?
Can Livia move back and forth in time at will?
She told Dan that she had seen things in Dan's future that we didn't see her see....unless I missed something.
Livia saw Katie married to someone else, and there was no Zach around.
What did Katie do?
Whatever she did, it seemed like a very unselfish and generous thing for her to do.

And Jack! What a guy, turning in his own brother.
I was hoping that Dan losing all that hijacker money in the past might have changed the future timeline of the FBI agent being so concerned about that one bill.
Apparently not.

Great episode.

And Jack! What a guy, turning in his own brother.


Great episode.

It seems to me, from the fact that Livia was taken to the present right into the place where Dan his his money, that someone is in complete control of Dan & Livia's travels.

Livia may know who.

Also, seems like this is the 1st time Livia has been to out present.

the best one yet, that's all i can say

I was hoping that Dan losing all that hijacker money in the past might have changed the future timeline of the FBI agent being so concerned about that one bill.
Apparently not.

I figured it was more of a rock and a hard place situation, since Jack had been hedging quite a bit. He could have just given Dan up from the go. I guess he went ahead and gave his brother up coz he figured Dan was in deep...stuff...anyway, and maybe the law would straighten him out. A threat is always a helpful motivator, too.

Or it could just be the "comforting Katie" thing. lol

Best episode so far.
I just have a question, any answers will be appreciated

Q- Why did Livia have to travel back in time to get the money? Couldn't Dan have done this? Is there a point in her seeing first hand that Dan already has a family??

Haha i dont know I think you missed some things.

Wow! that was a great episode! It pretty much confirms that Livia is tracking Dan. She's his "guardian", or whatever. And I love that we're seeing more of the consequences of time travel being considered.

I have to say that the episode gave me a bit of a scare though. Between the disposal of the money, Dan seeing and repairing his past with Katie, and Livia saying "Good Bye Dan" at the end, not to mention the rumors that ratings aren't good and the screenwriter's strike, I thought we were looking at a plausible place to cancel the series. Thank goodness for the last minute of the show, when Jack gives Dan up to the Feds, and for the trailer for next week. Yay! There's more!

Best episode so far.
I just have a question, any answers will be appreciated

Q- Why did Livia have to travel back in time to get the money? Couldn't Dan have done this? Is there a point in her seeing first hand that Dan already has a family??

Livia "I thought he said he was staying in?"
Dan "He says a lot of things."

It was interesting to me that she knew so much about altering ones own timeline. Livia's character makes for a great Deus Ex Machina without feeling cheep. Also I can't help but wonder if there's more to why she started traveling again and specifically when she started traveling again.

On a side note I know that Universal probably forced the writers to mention something about the environment and judging from Chuck and Journeyman it seemed like they had to do it a total of at least 2 times... Makes you wonder when they want the writers to mention something else and it gets plugged.

loved that line as well. good questions about just why she started traveling again...and why she ever got to stop just to have a relationship with Dan....

I was just contemplating starting a thread on this myself. I thought last weeks episode was the best so far... until I watched this week's episode last night. The show has been continue to get better and more exciting to watch over the last 3 or 4 weeks. And what was hinted to come next week by the end of this week's episode has me very much looking forward to watch next week's episode. I can't wait!

This show is now officially my favorite show this season compare to all new/old shows offered by every network, beating Heroes and Pushing Daisies. NBC really need to step up its effort to promote this show. I strongly feel they've made the wrong choice on what new shows to focus their marketing effort on for this season...

Another thing I like about this episode was this:
Here's Dan in the past fighting with his demons. He's drinking, gambling dealing with the loss of his fiance. And he literally ends up fighting himself in an alleyway. Dr Freud, paging Dr Freud?

If Dan traveled back to the present then the events happening in the past would alter it and there would be most likely be no money in the closet, the future would be a total unknown. In order to not have a paradox, if Dan stays in the pasts timeline and Olivia goes to the present the writers can cheat a bit and not have the past alter the future because the past hasn't finished happening yet in regards to Dans timeline. It also seems to solidify that Livia is there as his guide.

...when he returns he could end up in a different life with a different job, a different child, or people in his life could end up dead. He could return to a reality in which he is dead!

Another thing I like about this episode was this:
Here's Dan in the past fighting with his demons. He's drinking, gambling dealing with the loss of his fiance. And he literally ends up fighting himself in an alleyway. Dr Freud, paging Dr Freud?

but are the demons gonna come back to haunt in the present--is he going to start gambling again in the present and cause some big cycle since that would be doing exactly what most in the present already think he's doing anyway? could he even exist in the present long enough now for his demons to haunt him a 2nd time around?

gawd, this show is brilliant.

I have been watching since the first episode. I thought this one was very compelling. I know there are rumors it could be cancelled. I don't want that.

I would love to contact the people at NBC directly and tell them to keep it. Can anyone get me an email addy to the powers that be at NBC?

Thanks in advance

Having been through this process with other shows in the past, I would suggest that operating under the radar with cards etc. is generally a bad strategy. JM fans should use e-mails and faxes targeted at specific NBC programming execs.



Here are a few links that might be helpful. The first is an internal NBC media web site called NBC Universal Media Village. It lists every NBC show, and the media and adminstrative staff that are responsible for that show. Just click on the show name to access the data. It also provides links to a large number of senior NBC executives. It can provide very valuable information. It takes a little patience to work through the site, but it can be very useful.





Don't be afraid to communicate with high level people. On occasion senior executives might pay attention. It appears that the code to the NBC e-mail system works like this. For example if you wanted to e-mail Ben Silverman co-chairman of NBC Entertainment his address would be ben.silverman@nbcuni.com - first name, then a period, then last name.



Another is a link to an independent site that archives a wide variety of network, entertainment and production companies' contact information. They are pretty good about updating this information, but some of it is a bit dated.



The two critical names at NBC are Ben Silverman, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment, and Jeff Zucker president and chief executive officer of NBC Universal.



You should also consider contacting the company that is producing the show as well - such as Warner Brothers or Paramount. They have contracts with the networks for their shows and obviously want to see them succeed.





Here is one important thing you need to know. Letter writing campaigns don't work. For many people the simple process of taking the time to write a letter, put a stamp on it and get it in the mail usually undermines the process. Well intentioned people mean to follow through, but very often good intentions get sidetracked by daily life. If JM viewers want to be heard faxes and e-mails to the assorted NBC executives responsible for the show are the most effective tools. E-mailing Bob Wright at GE could also work. Bob is the former president and CEO of NBC, and he is the vice-chairman of GE. GE is important because they own NBC and they want to see it succeed.



Sadly, you should not put too much faith in DVR stats. This rating system really just started this year and many programming execs still don't take them seriously.



The notion that NBC will pull JM so that they can make more money with some other show is just so much nonsense. They have gone through this in years past with other shows, only to see the replacement shows fail. The lesson they seem not to have learned is that the best way to make money with a show is to support it, allow its writers and cast the opportunity to work out plot lines and character development, and then give it the time to build an audience. Many of the discussions going on this board closely mirror discussions about other NBC shows in years past.



And as far as how cash strapped NBC is, they just spent $928 million buying the Oxygen cable network, so it would seem that they might have a few dollars to support some of their new shows.



One media link that can occasionally be helpful is:



Finally the notion that 2 or 3 weeks of ratings should decide the fate of a show is insane. If networks in the past had followed that rule shows like M*A*S*H, Hill Street Blues, Law and Order, and many others would never have survived and flourished.



The best thing you can do for JM is to quickly begin to e-mail and fax a variety of the people at NBC and at GE. One other thing worth considering is tracking their advertisers and contacting them showing your support. Corporate sponsors love hearing from their audience.



If the people on this board are going to help JM you can not run under the radar. You will need to talk together about a simple, clear, well organized effort that gets the attention of programming execs and the media



And so it goes.......

Yeah, I wondered about that, too. But then I remembered Dan didn't have all the money, only some of it. So apparently not all of it has been spent.

I think the only reason Jack didn't turn Dan in was because the evidence was gone and he didn't want to look like a fool, as far as his career was concerned.

And I love how every week, Jack says, "I'm DONE." Then somehow next week he's back in Dan and Katie's lives again.

Also, for a man who wasn't ready to commit to Katie to have a family and kids, he sure is good with Zack.

HIGH STAKES IN THE PAST-- Much to Dan's dislike, Katie (Gretchen Egolf) considers going back to work as a television journalist. Dan (Kevin McKidd) travels back in time to protect a witness from certain death. Livia (Moon Bloodgood) arrives just in time to save Dan's future. Meanwhile, Jack (Reed Diamond) continues to investigate his brothers mysterious behavior. Brian Howe and Charles Henry Wyson also star.

Show Cast: Kevin McKidd, Brian Howe, Gretchen Egolf, Moon Bloodgood, Reed Diamond, Charlie Wyson

An interesting issue would be Dan's gambling addiction -
now he's sitting at a card game - doing something he has a hard time resisting at the best of times - something that he is addicted to. Even though the idea is to lose money, not a good idea for an addict.

In last week's episode, when Dan fought himself in the alley, he punched his younger self, and said: "Stay down and shut up!"

This is the same line spoken by Michael J. Fox in Back to the Future 2, when he punches out his goofy son, played by him, so he could take his place in the Cafe 80's.

I bet this was an intentional reference to BTTF.

I wanted to kick Jack when I saw him going through Dan's closet and taking the money. The way Jack skipped out the house, it looked like he was excited to get the dirt on Dan. Surely Jack knew that his local investigation wouldn't trump that of the Federal government. I'm just holding out hope that Jack will turn his "I got it from my brother," comment into a bad joke. Jack just burns my tires with his jealousy. But then again, every show needs a bad guy. And what's better than a loving, caring big brother dealing with his own insecurities and sense of lost love being the bad guy?