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vbarkley
If there's something about the show that bothers you, or that you just don't like, this is the place to post it.
Guest123
[Vent on]

I didn't like the ex-partners wife.
(What was her name?)
She was totally rude to poor Charlie!
There she was, going off on Charlie because nobody would ride with her husband cause they thought he was probably 'dirty too'.....and Charlie was in prison for 12 years!
Wull....her husband, the ex-partner, probably is dirty.
At the very least, he seemed to have played some part in Charlie not being vindicated and proven innocent.
So, in my opinion, the ex-partner deserved what he got.
I don't like her, that ex-partner's-wife.
I don't like her at all.
Very selfish and whiny.

[/Vent off]

Whew! I feel so much better. laugh.gif
Farscapefan
I'm not happy with the actress who's playing Charlie's ex-wife. Claudia Black, who was in the promo ad in this role, but had to bow out of the show due to the pregnancy, is much better actress. I hope the producers will bring back Claudia when she's ready to go back to filming again next year and find an interesting role for her smile.gif
Greta1
QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 14 2007, 01:07 PM) *
[Vent on]

I didn't like the ex-partners wife.
(What was her name?)
She was totally rude to poor Charlie!
There she was, going off on Charlie because nobody would ride with her husband cause they thought he was probably 'dirty too'.....and Charlie was in prison for 12 years!
Wull....her husband, the ex-partner, probably is dirty.
At the very least, he seemed to have played some part in Charlie not being vindicated and proven innocent.
So, in my opinion, the ex-partner deserved what he got.
I don't like her, that ex-partner's-wife.
I don't like her at all.
Very selfish and whiny.

[/Vent off]

Whew! I feel so much better. laugh.gif


Ok, you can not like her but we want her character to stay around! I love the actress who plays her, Meredith Salenger. She's of 80's movie fame and this is the first big thing she's done in a while. she's a really good actress, the show is lucky to have her!

I think there is more to hers and Charlie's relationship than meets the eye.
Guest123
QUOTE (Kymra @ Oct 14 2007, 11:33 PM) *
Ok, you can not like her but we want her character to stay around! I love the actress who plays her, Meredith Salenger. She's of 80's movie fame and this is the first big thing she's done in a while. she's a really good actress, the show is lucky to have her!

I think there is more to hers and Charlie's relationship than meets the eye.


Nope, not hating on Meredith Salenger....she's a great actress.
I just didn't like how the character she's playing was so rude and mean to poor Charlie.

And the character she's playing even seemed to be jealous of Charlie having a big house.
Dymnpha
QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 15 2007, 02:12 PM) *
Nope, not hating on Meredith Salenger....she's a great actress.
I just didn't like how the character she's playing was so rude and mean to poor Charlie.

And the character she's playing even seemed to be jealous of Charlie having a big house.


I completely agree. All that, and you get your big house and shiny promotion... and he had to ride alone. I wanted to slap her, (the character) her husband's a big boy and he survived, and I'm sure it was all very stressful, but I'm she'd rather have that than maximum security prison.

Maybe she has guilt? I'm sure pressured her husband to abandon Charlie too.

I hated the random, your father's future wife is here to see you storyline. It seems improbable, even in this universe. She'd have to have balls of steel to try and meet him like that.

And she does look eight!

I know its a new show so they are still settling into the plot, but this seems just not relevant.

Love Charlie tho!
vbarkley
Thanks to everyone for being able to distinguish the difference between an actor/actress and his/her role on the show!!! smile.gif
Paradoxfox93420
While we're venting about charecters we can't stand the lead detective has me infurated. I just knwo he's fingers deep into the ordeal. That said, I think my strong emotions speak extremely highly of the actor's abilities.


Agreed on meredith. Hate the charecter, ditto opinion on her as the lead detective. But she is SMOKIN!
CinnamonGirl74
Tonight's episode, "What They Saw," was, by far, my favorite! The writing was clever & funny. I loved the character of Easley & I hope he makes return appearances. I thought the dialogue and scenes flowed together much more smoothly than they have in the past, too. It's one of those shows where I don't want the hour to end & it seems to have just flown by!

That being said...I'm gonna vent now, but it's solely out of love, of course! (I put these "vents" in another thread, but I thought I'd add them to this one as it seems more appropriate here. Sorry, I didn't realize this thread was here, before!)

1) I don't like the lawyer character, Constance (although I think the actress, Ms. Langdon, is obviously very beautiful & talented). She's been coming across too flirty & needy towards Charlie ever since Episode #1, and the dialogue she was given tonight barely made any sense! It was pure drivel. It wouldn't bother me so much if she weren't...hello!...MARRIED to some phantom husband who she obviously has no intentions of divorcing. So, her coming-on to Charlie & then making him feel bad for trying to do the honorable thing by resisting her, in tonight's episode, just made her come across as manipulative & untrustworthy. Even taking on a shady new client seemed premeditated by her in order to get Charlie to worry & to check up on her. But, perhaps that's what the writer's wanted us to pick up on? Maybe she has more to do with Charlie getting thrown into jail than we think. Perhaps, she was really obssessed with him, in the past, & she set something up to both ruin his marriage & to seemingly "come to his rescue", later on? I don't know. But, if the writers are trying to get me to cheer on a romance between Constance & Charlie, I'm not, because there doesn't seem to be any potential for growth. I'd MUCH, much rather see something bloom between Charlie & Dani. They have great chemistry! I think a lot of other fans feel that way, too.
2) My only other "pick" has to be over the retired investigator seeming to have an entire old case file being kept in his home, as his own property. What the heck? I'm pretty sure cops aren't allowed to keep those things. Pretty confidential stuff...belongs to the police dept....probably kept in locked file cabinets & record vaults...that whole deal. Anyone else find that strange? And, also, why didn't the investigator complain, or seem shocked, that Charlie was just sitting there in his living room, after seeming to have just let himself into the investigator's trailer? I mean, isn't Charlie court-ordered not to go near that guy? That was also very unexplicable, to me.
Okay, okay...so no more picking! If anyone wants to respond to my opinions, please feel free. Maybe you could help me understand a few things? But, those critiques aside, I really DO feel that "Life" kicks-*** & I can't wait to see more of it! I hope that ALL of the viewer's comments are looked at and considered by the writers. I think it's great that shows in this day and age can have this kind of instant connection with their audiences and I hope they take advantage of it!
Good night, all!
fortyeightpark
I am wearing new shoes I invested a lot of time, energy and money into getting that I am starting to suspect are either too small or my feet are weird, so I might be a touch cranky today...

But, after watching last night's episode, I just have to ask - _why_ do they keep playing the SAME piece of tape of Detective Ames over and over again (it has not gotten any deeper with repeated viewing), why do they have Charlie brazenly break into his place only to say a highly condensed version of the _exact same thing_ he said the last episode (he risked being shot for that?), then leave, and OF COURSE Rachel saw the killer, so why tease it out over the last 4 episodes as if that's all the complexity that Charlie can handle - that he can't multitask clues and is instead going to just obsessively look for Rachel, and pester Detective Ames and everybody else until he finds her? From the drawings, I'd say we might have been looking for Rick James - but he's dead, so that might be downer.

What got me so riled up was the Mastercard Pod Buster for this evening's show explaining that the crew-cut, trunk-necked prison guard from Pelican Bay that Charlie has a rep for going over has gone missing after saying that he was paid to antagonize Charlie. Given the didactic treatment of Rachel by the writers, that feels considerably more like a lonely tangent than a clue.
vbarkley
QUOTE (48park @ Oct 18 2007, 08:30 AM) *
From the drawings, I'd say we might have been looking for Rick James - but he's dead, so that might be downer.
rolling.gif And here I was thinking it was Tony Orlando.
Artemisia
Was disappointed that within the first five minutes of the show they had Charlie passed out, or in an orgie, with two young bimbos again..that is becoming an obvious trick to get "sex" into the show, preferably right at the beginning, to lure vierwers.. Come on : The show is better than that. Is it really needed? ( I don't think it sheds light on Charlie's personality, or promotes the story line in any significant way.)
also: in Reese's first appearance in this episode, she is wearing her white shirt unbottoned, just so... same thing : lets have a little sex appeal, right at the beginning...after that, she was "properly" buttoned up.
Charlie's fruit eating thing: only came at the end, with the grapes - almost as if a writer had noticed: a yeah, we had this fruit munching thing going on.. so for continuity, we need it in this episode as well.
Guest123
QUOTE (Artemisia @ Oct 18 2007, 11:21 AM) *
Was disappointed that within the first five minutes of the show they had Charlie passed out, or in an orgie, with two young bimbos again..that is becoming an obvious trick to get "sex" into the show, preferably right at the beginning, to lure vierwers.. Come on : The show is better than that. Is it really needed? ( I don't think it sheds light on Charlie's personality, or promotes the story line in any significant way.)


I think that it does tie in with the storyline of Charlie Crews.
He's been in jail for 12 years.
He's a guy....a normal red-blooded guy, and these girls are coming out of the woodwork and throwing themselves at him because he's a multi-millionaire now.
So to me it makes perfect sense that this would be happening.
Charlie doesn't seem to be 'sex-crazed'....quite the opposite...he just seems to be 'amused' by all this new attention that he's getting from these girls.
Hence the 'cupcakes' comment.


QUOTE (Artemisia)
also: in Reese's first appearance in this episode, she is wearing her white shirt unbottoned, just so... same thing : lets have a little sex appeal, right at the beginning...after that, she was "properly" buttoned up.

*shrugs*
Didn't notice that.
*wonders why you did notice*

QUOTE (Artemisia)
Charlie's fruit eating thing: only came at the end, with the grapes - almost as if a writer had noticed: a yeah, we had this fruit munching thing going on.. so for continuity, we need it in this episode as well.

No....there were other references to fruit.
Guest123
QUOTE (48park @ Oct 18 2007, 08:30 AM) *
But, after watching last night's episode, I just have to ask - _why_ do they keep playing the SAME piece of tape of Detective Ames over and over again (it has not gotten any deeper with repeated viewing), why do they have Charlie brazenly break into his place only to say a highly condensed version of the _exact same thing_ he said the last episode (he risked being shot for that?), then leave, and OF COURSE Rachel saw the killer, so why tease it out over the last 4 episodes as if that's all the complexity that Charlie can handle - that he can't multitask clues and is instead going to just obsessively look for Rachel, and pester Detective Ames and everybody else until he finds her?

I was wondering the same thing.....until, Charlie produced that file he had tucked under his shirt.
See, I'm thinking that's why he was there....to look for that file.
Ames showed up before Charlie could leave.
So Charlie was just winging it, and said what he did.
Until Reese got the official request back, and the file was missing, Charlie didn't have a reason to go search Ames's house.

QUOTE (48park)
From the drawings, I'd say we might have been looking for Rick James - but he's dead, so that might be downer.

rolling.gif
fortyeightpark
QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 18 2007, 12:00 PM) *
I was wondering the same thing.....until, Charlie produced that file he had tucked under his shirt.
See, I'm thinking that's why he was there....to look for that file.
Ames showed up before Charlie could leave.
So Charlie was just winging it, and said what he did.
Until Reese got the official request back, and the file was missing, Charlie didn't have a reason to go search Ames's house.


I concede Charlie's trip to Ames' place produced the file so it wasn't completely pointless.

It's just the pace of the story development, and the approach the writers take to setting the scenes - Charlie seemed to be calmly waiting for Ames, rather than startled/interrupted, as if he had the file, but hung around to pump the well one more time... What they gave Charlie to say was not so strong, and having Ames say nothing bearing in mind the bar exchange and Constance's remark that Ames could shoot him the next time they run into each other kind of loses continuity for me. The exchange was anything but intense.

Also, running the Constance and Ames (worse because it's the same one) tapes as if to telegraph - "Hey, we're going to have major plot developments with Constance and Ames this show, folks!"...
Guest123
QUOTE (48park @ Oct 18 2007, 12:22 PM) *
I concede Charlie's trip to Ames' place produced the file so it wasn't completely pointless.

It's just the pace of the story development, and the approach the writers take to setting the scenes - Charlie seemed to be calmly waiting for Ames, rather than startled/interrupted, as if he had the file, but hung around to pump the well one more time... What they gave Charlie to say was not so strong, and having Ames say nothing bearing in mind the bar exchange and Constance's remark that Ames could shoot him the next time they run into each other kind of loses continuity for me. The exchange was anything but intense.


I see what you mean.
But....if the scene had been more intense, then Charlie might lose his Settlement, which would mean he would lose both the money and his job as a detective.
So, I'm glad it wasn't more intense.
As it is, Charlie can deny that he was even there....Ames was drunk, there were no witnesses.
I think that Charlie was just being calm, un-confrontational, and wanted to just get the heck outa there with that file.....sorta like tip-toeing out of the lion's den.
batmansbuick
Would love to hear Charlie's Grand National have the correct V6 Turbo sound instead of the dubbed V8 noise. The car is missing the bottom air dam and has incorrect tailpipes.

But hey, I'm glad it's there, a good choice as Grand Nationals were used by law enforcement. We want to see more of it in the stories! Thanks
Nubia56
Make no mistake -- I like this show. I had written off network TV until Life, but there was something in last night's show I DEFINETLY DIDN'T LIKE AND STRONGLY OBJECT TO: Charlie strong-arming someone to get information. What if this person was innocent (like Charlie was of the murders) and HAD no information and no way of getting it? I hate it when I see TV shows doing this. It creates the idea that it's okay for the police to jerk people around in the minds of the public, and it leads to innocent people being assaulted by law enforcement. Shame on you, don't do this anymore.
HerdGrad
QUOTE (Nubia56 @ Oct 26 2007, 11:15 AM) *
Make no mistake -- I like this show. I had written off network TV until Life, but there was something in last night's show I DEFINETLY DIDN'T LIKE AND STRONGLY OBJECT TO: Charlie strong-arming someone to get information. What if this person was innocent (like Charlie was of the murders) and HAD no information and no way of getting it? I hate it when I see TV shows doing this. It creates the idea that it's okay for the police to jerk people around in the minds of the public, and it leads to innocent people being assaulted by law enforcement. Shame on you, don't do this anymore.


Charlie is first and foremost a Cop. Guess what? Cops use any tactic availalbe to them to get the information they need within the law. It doesn't make him a bad person OR a bad cop. It happens all the time in real life so why be so upset they show it on TV?
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