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Shenandoah
QUOTE (LateNightGoddess @ Dec 21 2007, 12:10 PM) *
I have said this before, but it's been a while. Personal attacks are totally unacceptable and are against the rules of this message board. It's ok to disagree with others but please do so in a thoughtful and respectful way.
Shenandoah, Brimble might have been one of the two writers you self-righteously claimed to support earlier in this thread; you never know (although more than two writers were involved in the sketches you referenced).
This argument doesn't make sense to me. The writers are not asking for the price of DVDs, internet downloads, etc. to be increased and to receive the extra money. They're asking for a bigger percentage (or any percentage - in the case of the internet) of the current profit.



"Oh, and I'd like to thank you for reminding me of what a huge waste of time it is to be posting here at all. I guess I needed some other pathetic anonymous ******* to point out that I'm being a pathetic anonymous ******* myself. I'll just move on now for good and leave you to your legions of admirers. You're welcome, ace" .... Brimble

You will notice that Brimble has to use stars instead of words when attacking ME --also calls me 'ace'. I've played a game of cards or two in my lifetime and am well aware that 'ace' is often used interchangeably with another word. There's no way for me to know if Brimble is a professional TV writer or just putting everyone on. You say I have made personal attacks against Brimble -- how could I have done that when I don't even know who Brimble is, or for that matter, WHERE Brimble is. The very premise of a message board is that everyone is anonymous. Believe me, I am in no condition to attack anyone. I am lucky to be able to get out of bed in the morning.

However, I'm sticking to my guns when I say it's the consumer who pays in the end -- if you think the big wigs at the AMPTP are going to take a cut in their profits to pay the writers, you're sadly mistaken. I do believe a good writer should be paid well and I'm sure they are -- Jay's top writer makes $200,000/year -- the trouble with a strike is that the not-so-good writers piggyback the good writers. Of course, LNG, the writers are not asking the price of a DVD be increased -- they just want a bigger percentage of the profits! I can't believe the WGA is so naive that they don't know the price of a DVD will go up to accommodate the writers demands. It's just that transparent.

Shenandoah
Shenandoah
QUOTE (Brimble @ Dec 20 2007, 08:49 PM) *
You're absolutely right. Anyone can come on to this board and claim to be anything without having to back it up. The truth is, my embarrassment over wasting even one minute arguing with you (or anyone else) on this "idiot board" has outweighed the impulse I usually have to identify myself by name. Not that my name would mean anything to you anyway. I'm just one of those semi-anonymous staff writers who's only known to other semi-anonymous staff writers. The only reason I brought up the fact that I'm a professional writer in the first place is because I thought it was only fair to own up to the fact that I am prejudiced in terms of this strike issue. I didn't bring it up to add any weight to my arguments. If anything, I assumed my obvious bias would actually make my opinions less credible to others. I have a vested interest in how this strike turns out so my views are far from objective.

Oh, and I'd like to thank you for reminding me of what a huge waste of time it is to be posting here at all. I guess I needed some other pathetic anonymous ******* to point out that I'm being a pathetic anonymous ******* myself. I'll just move on now for good and leave you to your legions of admirers. You're welcome, ace.


Thank you, Brimble.
Brimble
I would like to apologize to the moderators of this board, and to everyone else here, including Shenandoah, for allowing my own personal anger and frustration over this unfortunate strike to erupt in this forum. I certainly don't expect anyone else to necessarily see things the way I do, especially since some of my fellow writers don't even see things the way I do. Also, in repeating the term "idiot board", I didn't mean to imply that anyone is an "idiot" for posting here. There are obviously quite a few thoughtful, intelligent people offering comments here, and I'm very sorry if I offended any of you.

This will be my last post here. I actually mean that this time. No, really, you'll see, I ain't playin'. Again, my apologies to everyone, and Happy Holidays.
Shenandoah


Okay everybody, back to basics! Here's a timely article about the strike from our old friend the New York Times ....

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Holl...h-Holidays.html
latenightgoddess
I've made some clarifications about the board rules at "This board has mods." Everyone who posts here is responsible for being familiar with and following the rules. (I'm not deleting the personal attacks in this thread since apparently the definition may have been unclear. From now on, all personal attacks will be deleted and you will receive "warnings" against your accounts accordingly.)


Deep in December, it's nice to remember without a hurt the heart is hollow... this song reminds me of the strike. sad01.gif I think we're all just upset for so many people.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
QUOTE (Shenandoah @ Dec 22 2007, 09:59 AM) *


Okay everybody, back to basics! Here's a timely article about the strike from our old friend the New York Times ....

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Holl...h-Holidays.html



The grinch who stole xmas? A classic and so sad considering the writers strike.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
QUOTE (LateNightGoddess @ Dec 22 2007, 05:22 PM) *
Deep in December, it's nice to remember without a hurt the heart is hollow[/url]... this song reminds me of the strike. sad01.gif I think we're all just upset for so many people.



I think the song 'Try To Remember' is from the broadway show Fantasticks? -Sad and profound. sad01.gif Thanks for posting it.

LNG, I agree, we're all effected by this strike for so many reasons... In fact I really had a very mellow xmas this years. I feel badly for everyone affected by the strike, since I know what damage it can cause the families. sigh.gif
sexy_conan418
yep it is from the Fantasticks! I love that musical happy.gif

I am praying that things get worked out soon. It's almost been 2 months!
I'm glad that the Conan repeats this week are a bit older than ones they've been showing.

I'm counting down the days until he comes back...only one week away!
pm_in_ny
I have been watching Conan since he first went on the air and have always loved his quirky sense of humour. While the writers' strike is certainly an inconvenience to viewers, it is also costing writers and the networks by the day. Johnny Carson crossed the picket line long ago during a strike and I couldn't respect him after that. I am not a union person, but I thought Conan was less a "company man" and was a person who was not afraid to speak his mind. If he does cross, which is what is being reported, it will be a great disappointment, and I will not watch his show anymore.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
QUOTE (sexy_conan418 @ Dec 26 2007, 07:19 PM) *
yep it is from the Fantasticks! I love that musical happy.gif

I am praying that things get worked out soon. It's almost been 2 months!
I'm glad that the Conan repeats this week are a bit older than ones they've been showing.

I'm counting down the days until he comes back...only one week away!



Thanks for verifying that for me. biggrin.gif I love FANTASTICKS too! Yes, only one week away. sniff tear...
PS I love your myspace photo with your friends... awe.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...WQ&refer=us

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Letterman Reaches Deal With Writers to Resume Show (Update1)
By Sarah Rabil and Meg Tirrell

Dec. 28 (Bloomberg) -- David Letterman reached an agreement with striking Hollywood writers to return to CBS with a scripted show Jan. 2, the same night rival Jay Leno comes back without his writing staff.

Letterman's Worldwide Pants production company negotiated a separate deal with the Writers Guild of America to allow the late-night talk show's team of writers to go back to work, WGA and New York-based Worldwide Pants said today in separate statements. Letterman and Craig Ferguson, whose show is also produced by Worldwide Pants, will be the only hosts to come back with their writers.

``This is not a solution to the strike,'' Letterman said in his statement. ``But I hope it will be seen as a step in the right direction.''

NBC's ``Tonight Show with Jay Leno'' and ``Late Night with Conan O'Brien,'' as well as Walt Disney Co.'s ``Jimmy Kimmel Live'' on ABC, are also scheduled to return to TV Jan. 2. The shows went into reruns Nov. 5 when entertainment writers went on strike over compensation for their work used on the Internet.

Letterman's company agreed to the same proposals that WGA was prepared to present to studios before talks broke down Dec. 7, the WGA said today.

``What they're hoping here is that Leno is then going to put pressure on NBC Universal,'' said Jonathan Handel, a Los Angeles-based entertainment attorney with the firm TroyGould, who once did legal work for the Writers Guild. ``NBC Universal is a lot bigger than Jay Leno.''

Guild Rules

Letterman, who has been a guild member for more than 30 years, will be able to deliver a show similar to those before the strike with scripted monologues and his well-known ``Top Ten'' lists because he will have his full writing staff. Leno, whose show airs at the same time, will not be able to do any writing or perform any work that would normally be composed by the writers, according to strike rules.

``It's time for NBC Universal to step up to the plate and negotiate a companywide deal that will put Jay Leno, who has supported our cause from the beginning, back on the air with his writers,'' the Writers Guild said in a statement.

Writers plan to picket at NBC Studios and at ``Tonight Show'' tapings Jan. 2 to Jan. 4, Writers Guild spokesman Gregg Mitchell said today in an e-mail response to questions today.

The WGA hopes more companies will come forward for negotiations so that other hosts can also use their ``writing staffs who are so essential to their success and popularity,'' Michael Winship, president of the East Coast arm of the guild, said today in a statement.

``The Daily Show with Jon Stewart'' and ``The Colbert Report'' will resume Jan. 7 without striking writers, Viacom Inc.'s Comedy Central network said last week.

Letterman began paying out-of-pocket for his production staff's salaries when writers walked off the job.

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Thanks to Shena's post at the Leno's board I found out about this.

Well, I had a feeling... and with the directors' coming into play next with the AMPTP. I wonder what's next for the writers?

sighs with hope.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
Interesting, I just found a blog on the huffington post from Alec Baldwin and I'm amazed at how much we do agree in regards to this strike. smile.gif blink.gif Except I feel, taking the DVD increase off the negotiation table was wise because they were asking for Double the amount of what they were getting when their main issue was the internet profits-- or so it seems.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin...ar_b_78348.html

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Having the wisdom and guts and talent to get it over with expeditiously is even more so. The current WGA negotiators do not represent the best hope the WGA has right now and should be replaced. They should be replaced with more skillful negotiators.

Otherwise, the directors, who have typically fielded the most effective negotiators of the three guilds, will step in and, once again, school everyone. In our business, you start a strike knowing how to end it. Not when, but at least how. Otherwise, don't strike.


Perhaps the fact that Letterman was able to close a deal with the WGA, makes me wonder how different that proposal is from the one AMPTP received? hmmm

Regardless, I hope this helps not hinders the process in getting the AMPTP back to the table with the WGA.
latenightgoddess
David Letterman and the Late Show writers have surely been the most candid and outspoken team in late night about the strike. I'm glad they're coming back on the air as a cohesive unit and hope this will be a step in the right direction for the WGA. I at least take comfort in knowing that Letterman and his writers will be doing everything within their power to support the WGA for 40 minutes a night on network TV. Hopefully the other networks will feel the burn that the absence of their shows' writers causes them and will be compelled to negotiate individually with the WGA. (While an individual negotiation is not ideal, it is progress... I think.)

Behind The Scenes: WGA Agrees To Allow Dave's Late Night Shows To Return With Writers Jan. 2; Will This Divide The Guild?
Deadline Hollywood, Friday, Dec 28th, 2007 at 04:27PM

UPDATED: All along the issue, the really big issue, was whether the striking writers would still feel united if some of them went back to work and others stayed on the picket lines. I've learned that was just one of the many worries voiced by the WGA to the posse repping Worldwide Pants when it applied for an interim agreement allowing the two late night shows it owns, The Late Show With David Letterman and The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson, to return to the air on January 2nd fully staffed with scribes. "It was a tough decision," a source close to Letterman acknowledged to me just now. "This happened by the slimmest of all possible margins." So tough that Dave's negotiating team didn't know whether the pact would be approved by the WGA until the very last minute today.

It was, finally, at midday following several meetings and a lot of phone calls, sources say. The Letterman camp -- which included Worldwide Pants CEO and longtime Late Show exec producer Rob Burnett, ex-CAA partner and now Worldwide Pants exec Lee Gabler, and the Hollywood entertainment law firm of Jackoway Tyerman and Wertheimer -- was sworn to secrecy until the WGA could first talk to Jay Leno and his writers and then produce a press release. But the news leaked out early, reputedly from Leno's side.

"I am grateful to the WGA for granting us this agreement. We'e happy to be going back to work, and particularly pleased to be doing it with our writers," Letterman said in a statement issued by his company. "This is not a solution to the strike, which unfortunately continues to disrupt the lives of thousands. But I hope it will be seen as a step in the right direction."

On the one hand, this is the first side deal cut by the WGA with a producer since the strike began on November 3rd as part of its new and articulated "divide and conquer" strategy. "Worldwide Pants has accepted the very same proposals that the Guild was prepared to present to the media conglomerates when they walked out of negotiations on December 7," the WGA said in its annoumcement today.

But I'm told the WGA leadership was particularly worried how Leno's writers would react since it gives Letterman's show a real leg up on late night competition for guests like celebrities and politicians (i.e. Democratic presidential contenders who don't want to cross picket lines). "I don't think they wanted to upset Jay or those writers because they've all been incredibly supportive of the WGA during this strike," an insider explained to me. "But it's not Jay's writers' fault that Dave's lawyers made a deal for him to own his show and Jay's lawyers made a deal for him to be an NBC employee."

Indeed, the WGA statement announcing the deal took care to note how "it's time for NBC-Universal to step up to the plate and negotiate a company-wide deal that will put Jay Leno, who has supported our cause from the beginning, back on the air with his writers."

But a statement by SAG prez Alan Rosenberg hailing the deal underscored the huge advantage which Letterman's two shows will have booking big celebrity guests -- an endorsement by the actors guild itself: "Screen Actors Guild members will be happy to appear on The Late Show with David Letterman and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson with union writers at work and without crossing WGA picket lines," Rosenberg made clear.

Another argument against granting the interim agreement was that Worldwide Pants didn't control the New Media rights to Letterman's shows. But CBS said in its statement issued tonight: "CBS controls the Internet exploitation rights for both programs, and will comply with any eventual negotiated agreement between the AMPTP and the WGA." But then Letterman's side showed that its company and not CBS is the one responsible for paying residuals to the WGA writers for Internet use of the shows.

Still another argument, and perhaps the most convincing, was that by granting the interim agreement the WGA would enrich CBS which collects the ad revenue from Dave's shows and therefore help the AMPTP. Indeed, the AMPTP's own statement accused WGA's negotiators of "misrepresenting the fact that Worldwide Pants is an AMPTP member".

But inside the WGA, a source told me, "the question was whether the hurt felt by NBC in late night would be worse than the benefit given to CBS. Some people didn't accept that. Those people also wanted to make a side deal with a much bigger company than Worldwide Pants," an insider told me. "But there was an actual strategy behind today's decision."

That strategy goes something like this: In order for this gambit to work to the WGA's benefit, two things must happen: Leno's writers can't go Financial Core, and SAG has to tell its people to only go on Dave's shows. "Then you have Jeff Zucker in huge pain. You also have to remember that Les Moonves has very little power in the AMPTP. Jeff Zucker and Jeff Immelt have much more power in the AMPTP. If they see their Tonight Show franchise going down the tubes, they'll put a lot of pressure on the other CEOs to return to the talks," a source explained. "In the final analysis, they hoped this is a watershed." (I can confirm that, at one point, Dave's camp argued that NBC would break ranks with the AMPTP and do a side deal with the WGA in order to save its late night lineup, especially with Conan O'Brien about to succeed Jay Leno. But, in the end, no one at the WGA bought into that, so Letterman's side dialed it back.)

But now there may be rifts within the WGA over the deal.

Before today's announcement, I received phone calls and emails from some well-known WGA members, especially feature film writers, angry that the WGA was even contemplating such an agreement while at the same time dumping those issues important to screenwriters like possessory credit, free rewrites and endless meetings without pay. They told me they planned to stop picketing and possibly go Fi-Core over what they see as a strike that's become more about television that movies.

Tonight I've managed to reach one of those successful screenwriters who phoned me and he's furious. "I'm going back to work," he said, asking me not to use his name. "I have gotten five phone calls tonight from feature writers and every single one of them has said some variation on, 'B.ullshit on this. Why am I looking at staying out of work until April when these guys are going to start picking up paychecks on Tuesdays?'"

The writer continued: "All you're doing every time a movie or TV star goes on Letterman is making money for a member of the AMPTP. If you're going to strike GM, then you strike GM. You don't say, 'We're going to give a waiver to the guys making pickup trucks because they're really good guys.'" You don't maintain solidarity by letting a handful of guys go back to work. So what's next: Lorne's people go back to work? Then Colbert's people go back to work?

"I read the reasoning behind this on your site just now that they're trying to break Jeff Zucker. Are they out of their minds? NBC Universal's numbers are a rounding error in the grand scheme of General Electric. All GE has to do is sell one power plant in Dubai and it covers the entire revenue stream of NBC Universal."

But another successful feature film writer, Mike Werb (The Mask, Face\Off, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider) just told me he applauds the Letterman deal and doesn't see it as divisive. "I'm thrilled for the Letterman writers and for Letterman that as one of the most important people in the entertainment business he can take this stance. From my point of view, I don't see any negatives in this deal. To me, it just serves as an example of how a side deal can be made. Personally, I applaud Worldwide Pants whether there's a domino effect or not to be seen. If the deal is acceptable to the guild, it's completely acceptable to me. That's why I was one of the 90% who voted to empower this strike and my partners in this, which is the negotiating committee."

Werb noted that during the last writers strike in 1988, he was working for a firm that also secured an interim agreement with the WGA, Sam Arkoff's AIP, and recalled no controversy over that deal. "You never heard any arguments. People seemed happy." Nor does Werb think there's a movie vs TV writer schism developing. "I can tell you that during this strike now I've been on the picket lines every day and the spirit is significantly stronger this time than then. I've met so many screenwriters and TV writers all fusing together."

Here are the various statements about today's decision:

First, the WGA's email to its own members about the decision:


To Our Fellow Members,

We are writing to let you know that have reached a contract with David Letterman's Worldwide Pants production company that puts his show and The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson back on the air with Guild writers. This agreement is a positive step forward in our effort to reach an industry-wide contract. While we know that these deals put only a small number of writers back to work, three strategic imperatives have led us to conclude that this deal, and similar potential deals, are beneficial to our overall negotiating efforts.

First, the AMPTP has not yet been a productive avenue for an agreement. As a result, we are seeking deals with individual signatories. The Worldwide Pants deal is the first. We hope it will encourage other companies, especially large employers, to seek and reach agreements with us. Companies who have a WGA deal and Guild writers will have a clear advantage. Companies that do not will increasingly find themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Indeed, such a disadvantage could cost competing networks tens of millions in refunds to advertisers.

Second, this is a full and binding agreement. Worldwide Pants is agreeing to the full MBA, including the new media proposals we have been unable to make progress on at the big bargaining table. This demonstrates the integrity and affordability of our proposals. There are no shortcuts in this deal. Worldwide Pants has accepted the very same proposals that the Guild was prepared to present to the media conglomerates when they walked out of negotiations on December 7.

Finally, while our preference is an industry-wide deal, we will take partial steps if those will lead to the complete deal. We regret that all of us cannot yet return to work. We especially regret that other late night writers cannot return to work along with the Worldwide Pants employees. But the conclusion of your leadership is that getting some writers back to work under the Guild's proposed terms speeds up the return to work of all writers.

Side-by-side with this agreement, and any others that we reach, are our ongoing strike strategies. In the case of late-night shows, our strike pressure will be intense and essential in directing political and SAG-member guests to Letterman and Ferguson rather than to struck talk shows. At this time, picket lines at venues such as NBC (both Burbank and Rockefeller Center), The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and the Golden Globes are essential. Outreach to advertisers and investors will intensify in the days ahead and writers will continue to develop new media content itself to advance our position.

We must continue to push on all fronts to remind the conglomerates each and every day that we are committed to a fair deal for writers and the industry.

Best,
Michael Winship
President
Writers Guild of America, East

Patric M. Verrone
President
Writers Guild of America, West


Then the WGA's public statement:

"The Writers Guild has reached a binding independent agreement today with Worldwide Pants that will allow The Late Show with David Letterman and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson to return to the air with their full writing staffs. This is a comprehensive agreement that addresses the issues important to writers, particularly New Media. Worldwide Pants has accepted the very same proposals that the Guild was prepared to present to the media conglomerates when they walked out of negotiations on December 7.

Today's agreement dramatically illustrates that the Writers Guild wants to put people back to work, and that when a company comes to the table prepared to negotiate seriously a fair and reasonable deal can be reached quickly.

It's time for NBC-Universal to step up to the plate and negotiate a company-wide deal that will put Jay Leno, who has supported our cause from the beginning, back on the air with his writers."ť


From David Letterman's Worldwide Pants:

Worldwide Pants Incorporated, David Letterman's independent production company, announced today that it has agreed to terms with the Writers' Guild of America on an interim agreement that will allow The Late Show With David Letterman and the Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson to resume production on January 2, 2008, with the writing staffs of both shows.

"I am grateful to the WGA for granting us this agreement. We're happy to be going back to work, and particularly pleased to be doing it with our writers,"ť said Letterman.

"This is not a solution to the strike, which unfortunately continues to disrupt the lives of thousands. But I hope it will be seen as a step in the right direction."

"This is a positive result, both for the WGA and for our shows, and we are appreciative that the leaders of the Guild dealt with us reasonably and in good faith," said Rob Burnett, President and CEO of Worldwide Pants and Executive Producer of The Late Show.

The January 2nd original episode of The Late Show With David Letterman will air at 11:37-12:37 AM, ET/PT on CBS. Guests will be announced at a later date.


And finally from the AMPTP:

"While it is good news for viewers that the jokes will be back on the late night shows, the biggest joke of all appears to be the one the WGA's organizers are pulling on working writers. The people in charge at WGA have insisted on increasing their own power by prevailing on jurisdictional issues such as reality, animation and sympathy strikes. Yet today the WGA made an interim agreement to send writers back to work that by definition could not have achieved these jurisdictional goals -- gains that would at a minimum require the company making an agreement to actually produce reality and animation programming. WGA's organizers are also misrepresenting the fact that Worldwide Pants is an AMPTP member. Today's agreement is just the latest indication that the WGA's organizers may not have what it takes to achieve an industry-wide deal that will create a strong and sustainable economic future for writers and producers alike."

From Screen Actors Guild president Alan Rosenberg:

"We are pleased that Worldwide Pants has reached an independent agreement with the WGA and The Late Show with David Letterman and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson will be back on the air with their WGA writing staffs. We hope this encourages all of the talk shows to follow suit and use only WGA writers. Screen Actors Guild members will be happy to appear on The Late Show with David Letterman and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson with union writers at work and without crossing WGA picket lines."ť
latenightgoddess
Strike Beards
The New Yorker
by Ben McGrath, January 7, 2008

Consider the great beards in history: Confucius, Abe Lincoln, Rasputin. The whiskers seem inseparable from the men. Yet for many guys it is the decision to forgo regular shaving, as a reaction to circumstance, and not the resultant goatee or Vandyke, that counts. “Beards have always marked transitions in men’s lives,” Allan Peterkin, a leading pogonologist, says. (He is the author of “One Thousand Beards: A Cultural History of Facial Hair.”) Thus we get Al Gore after the election (whiskers of grievance and release), and Ted Kaczynski in his cabin (isolation, madness), and Johnny Damon with the Red Sox (superstition)—all iconic beards in their proper context.



Conan O’Brien, now forty-four, grew his first-ever beard—“a hobby on my face,” he called it—only recently, after his late-night show went off the air as a result of the Writers Guild of America strike. Six weeks in, he was beginning to resemble a hockey player in mid-“playoff beard” form, or, as he preferred to put it, a “lone gunman.” “In my line of work there’s no opportunity to grow a beard,” O’Brien said, shortly before Christmas. “These shows are the organizing principles of our lives, and the moment they stop you start to go insane.” That morning, a paparazzi photo of O’Brien had appeared in the Post, alongside one of David Letterman, who was also, evidently, growing a strike beard (“LATE GUYS TURN INTO ‘CAVE’ MEN”). “Literally, it’s something to do,” O’Brien said. “You can check on the progress of your beard.”

The strikers themselves were looking a little hairy on the picket lines in midtown. Colin Jost, a writer for “Saturday Night Live,” estimated that ninety per cent of his friends were now barbati. (One of the ten per cent, a young “S.N.L.” staffer, confessed to being “physically incapable of growing a strike beard, or any beard.”) There was no official call to action, Jost said, but, rather, a gradual, snowballing effect, born of equal parts solidarity and apathy. When asked to characterize his facial growth, he said, “Let’s see. It’s sort of a Russell Crowe, ‘3:10 to Yuma’ beard.”

John Solomon, another “S.N.L.” writer, said he was sporting “kind of a Dan Haggerty,” referring to the actor who played Grizzly Adams, and that he’d just been called the Unabomber by a visiting acquaintance from Greece. “The person who blew everybody’s mind was Paul Shaffer,” he said, recalling an impromptu pep talk that Letterman’s bandleader had delivered to the strikers outside Rockefeller Center. “He had a pretty full white beard, and no one recognized him for the longest time.”

“I don’t want to overanalyze my own beard, but, I mean, Trotsky had a beard,” Rob Dubbin, a writer for “The Colbert Report” and an admirer, from his Harvard days, of the “thesis beard,” said. (A mutant cousin of the thesis beard, Jost pointed out, is the “neck beard,” grown sometimes during final exams.) “When you see someone else with a beard on the line, it resonates with the idea of lean times.”

Not everyone, alas, is cut out for the unshorn life, however principled. David Scarpa, the writer of the upcoming remake of “The Day the Earth Stood Still,” allowed that he had finally shaved his strike beard after his wife said he looked like “the Gorton’s fisherman.” “I don’t know if leaking the news of my capitulation to the media undermines the strike effort,” he wrote in an e-mail. (A Writers Guild spokesman said, “As long as it calls attention to the issues at stake and gets the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers back to the bargaining table . . . we’re all for it.”) Brian Koppelman, whose credits include “Rounders” and “Ocean’s Thirteen,” cited Bjorn Borg’s old Wimbledon beards as an inspiration to persevere, but he wasn’t sure how long he could hold out. “As much as I will not bend to the will of the A.M.P.T.P., I will bend quite easily to the will of my eight-year-old daughter,” he said.

O’Brien was threatening to stick with it long enough to bring his beard back on the air this week, when his show is scheduled to resume, almost as a form of blackmail: “Let’s get these writers a fair shake or this beard stays.” A side benefit of his new hobby was that it was giving him something to joke about in the absence of a writing staff. “This is the only creative act I’ve been allowed to participate in,” he said and, as if to keep in shape, continued to rattle off shaggy inspirations (“Charlie Daniels, now that’s a killer beard”), quips (“I injected caulking into it about a week ago”), and punch lines (“I’m the only guy chopping wood outside his Manhattan co-op”).
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
"LateNightGoddess' date='Dec 29 2007, 03:31 PM' post='2831849']
David Letterman and the Late Show writers have surely been the most candid and outspoken team in late night about the strike. I'm glad they're coming back on the air as a cohesive unit and hope this will be a step in the right direction for the WGA. I at least take comfort in knowing that Letterman and his writers will be doing everything within their power to support the WGA for 40 minutes a night on network TV. Hopefully the other networks will feel the burn that the absence of their shows' writers causes them and will be compelled to negotiate individually with the WGA."

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"David Letterman and the have surely been the most candid and outspoken team in late night about the strike. I'm glad they're coming back on the air as a cohesive unit and hope this will be a step in the right direction for the WGA.


I feel Letterman can afford to be more out spoken etc. He owns his own late night show/company where Conan and Leno work for NBC. Also Letterman in 88 did the same thing as Conan and went back without the writers as a guild member, as soon as Johnny Carson did who was not a member and made a separate deal with the WGA like letterman. My point is Conan should not be treated less supportive than Letterman because he went back w/o the writers. Again, Letterman had to do that too, during the last strike.

It is clearly apparent that Letterman, and Conan are united in their solidary support of the writers.
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Here is ONE past article in regards to the studio heads signing a pledge not to make seperate deals with the WGA.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6513229.html

Studios Say They Won’t Cut Separate Deals With Writers
Move Follows WGA’s Attempt to Approach Major Producers Individually
By Linda Haugsted -- Multichannel News, 12/16/2007 7:53:00 PM

The heads of Hollywood’s eight top television producing companies have sent a message to striking writers: we’re standing together, too.

In an ad that will appear Monday, executives from Fox Group, Paramount Pictures, the Walt Disney Company, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Warner Bros., CBS Corp., MGM and NBC Universal make it clear they will not negotiate individually with the Writers Guild of America.

The WGA sent a memo to members Saturday indicating it would attempt Monday to break the negotiating impasse with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers by approaching the major producers individually.

“Different assets ... Different Businesses ... Different Companies ... One Common Goal: To reach a fair and just agreement with writers and get back to work,” reads the ad copy posted at the AMPTP website.

The ad is signed by Fox Group chairman and CEO Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Group chairman and CEO Brad Grey, Walt Disney Co. president and CEO Robert Iger; Sony Pictures Group chairman and CEO Michael Lynton; Warner Bros. chairman Barry Meyer; CBS Corp. president and CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM chairman and CEO Harry Sloan and NBC Universal chairman and CEO Jeff Zucker."
latenightgoddess
Thank goodness for David Letterman.

youtube videos-
The AMPTP: Cowards, Cutthroats and Weasels
Top 10 Demands of the Striking Writers
Writers Strike Q&A

I thought "Fun Facts" about the writers' strike from last night was really good. It's not on the internet yet.
latenightgoddess
Letterman's Fun Facts: Strike-Related smile.gif
latenightgoddess
Anyone else think the guy in the center of this picture looks like Mike Sweeney with a beard?




Here's an interesting analysis of the unscripted late night shows.

LATE-NIGHT TV HOSTS: WITHOUT THE WRITERS
Who's lame, who's smug and who wins?

KATE TAYLOR
January 12, 2008
globeandmail.com (Canada's National Newspaper)

Leno is unrepentant. Kimmel is unmoved. Stewart is unhappy. Colbert is almost giddy. O'Brien is erratically brilliant ... and Letterman is very, very smug.

After a two-month absence caused by the continuing strike by American film and television writers, the late-night talk shows are back with a variety of approaches to producing laughs without scripts, most of which seem to involve prolonged jokes about facial hair.

These days, a few hours staying up watching TV can be deeply revelatory about the venerable formula that is the late-night talk show and the comic talents of the incumbents. Yes, apparently, Jay Leno can dream up lines all by himself about threesomes with Hillary Clinton and weather so bad you have to keep one hand on the steering wheel. On NBC's The Tonight Show, the grand-pappy of the bunch, Leno seems set to ignore the strike by the Writers Guild of America and continues to produce an opening monologue filled with the rather predictable cracks about politics, sex and driving that are his trademark. Seems the Spears family is mighty relieved that Britney's sister Jamie Lynn is pregnant at 16. They were starting to worry she might become an old maid. Bada boom.

Over on CBS, David Letterman seems to be more conscious of the strike, and he's the one who has his writers. Because Letterman's production company Worldwide Pants owns his show and Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson and thus was able to make his own deal with the guild, both programs are back in full swing. But that doesn't stop Letterman from making repeated gags about the strike, including trying to stuff as many striking writers as possible into the trendy juice bar across the street this week. As actor and guest Tom Hanks told Letterman Monday after he shaved off his bushy strike beard on air: "Shaving beards off on TV, that's what shows without writers do."

Generally, there's been an air of camaraderie-in-crisis on Letterman as an A-list of Hollywood liberals that has included Hanks, Robin Williams and Morgan Freeman express their support for the strikers by doing their bit on the legit show. All these shows are formulaic, as they move from the desk to the couch to the bandstand and back again, but at its most cozy, that formula can produce an enviable sense of fellowship among the host, musicians, guests and audience. Despite his sometimes caustic wit, Letterman is better at producing that relaxed sociability on air than his rivals and the past two weeks have been particularly chummy on the Late Show.

Meanwhile, NBC hosts Leno and Conan O'Brien are left conducting extended interviews with a seemingly endless parade of reality hosts from their own network including Howie Mandel, Hulk Hogan and Donald Trump - when they aren't being entertained by big snakes and dancing dogs. Thursday, Leno even interviewed his ABC rival host Jimmy Kimmel on his show and then returned the favour half an hour later. It was a hostage exchange that might seem heavily weighted in ABC's favour, but since Leno is the better host, NBC got the livelier interview as the usually catatonic Kimmel played guest. O'Brien, meanwhile, is trying to break his 41-second record for spinning his wedding ring on his desk.

(Despite the sometimes desperate antics, Variety reported yesterday that the traditional ratings position of the top shows remains unchanged: Leno and O'Brien are still beating Letterman and Ferguson.)

Over in the cable universe, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central had an even tougher job to perform as they joined their fellow hosts back on air this week. Both men are satirists, not stand-up comics. They depend heavily on their scripts and on both shows you could almost hear the sighs of relief this week when they moved from their solo segments to interviews, even if the guests represented a pretty low tier of American punditry.

You might have thought Colbert, a brilliant comic playing the role of the self-congratulatory, right-wing broadcaster on his Colbert Report, would have the more impossible task: His character is, after all, a fictional creation. Turns out the man, who got his start in comedy doing improv, has no problems improvising in character. It was Stewart who looked the most uncomfortable at the start of the week as he fiddled with his pen, frowned at the camera and devoted a long segment to a largely serious interview about the strike with a labour-relations expert from Cornell University. Colbert, meanwhile, bounced along more happily on his first show, gleefully playing up footage of his many anti-union statements, while resorting on Tuesday to a script about the meteorite market that had been written before the strike. Both men brightened considerably Wednesday when they had the results of the New Hampshire primary as fodder.

Stewart also got in a few jabs against the writers at the top of the week, suggesting the earnestness of their ads would be more appropriate to an AIDS charity, although he didn't spare the network bosses either. Generally, the late-night hosts support the writers and have been vocal about it on air. Only Kimmel has been overtly critical, suggesting on his first night that the writers were overly harsh in picketing shows such as O'Brien's and Leno's.

Still, unlike those hosts who are clearly preparing jokes before they step on set, Kimmel is largely sticking by guild regulations that forbid members - and all the hosts are also guild members - from preparing material for struck shows. While Leno keeps those zingers coming despite protests from the guild, and Stewart certainly appeared to have prepared material available by Wednesday, Kimmel has largely abandoned the monologue, settling for the odd jab at some news clip or other. His show is now relying heavily on re-running previous gags under the title Greatest Moments for Which Residual Payments Are Made to Our Unemployed Writers.

Seems like he and Letterman will soon be the only two left making strike jokes: As this week wore on, obligatory references to the strike on all the talk shows grew fewer and guests no longer felt compelled to announce that they supported the writers (even if they had crossed the writers' picket lines to be there.) For all that the talk shows are now providing the starving networks with some fresh meat, their return would seem to do the writers' cause more good than harm, publicizing the strike. This is one where nobody seems to have sympathy for the producers' refusal to give writers a share of Internet profits. Even Guillermo, the security guard on Kimmel's show, can explain to you what a residual is.

The other winner in this often-bizarre exercise is O'Brien, king of the often bizarre. He's the only host who does any real physical comedy on his show, which has helped him in this instance as he entertains the folks with his new beard, his moon walk and his eye-twitching imitation of a psychotic studio boss manically stroking his cat ŕ la Dr. No.

O'Brien has also been the most forthright about the strike. He announces calmly at the start of each show that sadly he lacks his writers and he wants them back but that in the meantime he will attempt to entertain you himself. He considers it an opportunity to rethink the show, he says.

Last week, he was doing just that with a silly segment in which he eavesdropped on the NBC pages as they led tour groups into his studio and another in which he flung himself out into the audience to deliver all kinds of tasteless junk he had bought discounted in the NBC gift shop. This week, he introduced a light show like one of those he insists they have in German discos - who has ever been to a German disco? - and now delights in unveiling it to German-accented cackles. Too much of that and a particularly bland interview with The Donald made Tuesday's show a weak one, while Wednesday's interview with associate producer Jordan Schlansky threatened to disintegrate into a sordid exercise in humour by humiliation as O'Brien uncovered the health freak's hidden Pop-Tarts. Still, two weeks into this exercise, O'Brien comes off looking good as the host who is both most honest about the strike's impact and most willing to take some risks with the talk-show format.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner in the best stand-up-comedian-c.um-talk-show-host-unsupported-by-large-writing-staff category: It's the elongated leprechaun with the spinning wedding band and the demonic laugh.

Host-friendly Huckabee

Just call him a late-night s.lut.

As his colleagues on the left and on the right stay well clear of the Writers Guild of America strike, Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee is busy making appearances on late-night talk shows. He was on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno last week, was on the Late Show with David Letterman Monday, and Wednesday he showed up on The Colbert Report. The writers on Letterman's show are no longer on strike, but those other two appearances required Huckabee to cross Writers Guild of America picket lines - most other presidential hopefuls have stayed away. It's a move that might lead some to question the judgment of this would-be president, who apparently believed all the talk shows had settled - if they weren't already pretty dubious about the question because the guy has repeatedly offered comic Stephen Colbert a spot as his running mate.

The two men, one of whom is a clever liberal satirist pretending to be a right-wing pundit and the other of whom is apparently for real, kept this gag going Wednesday in an interview in which Colbert asked Huckabee to confirm that they were the guys who think Jesus and the Devil are brothers. Just to show he can take a joke, Huckabee explained that no, that was not their ticket, but offered to send Colbert a memo on this issue with all the important parts underlined in red. (In all seriousness, Huckabee has said elsewhere he does not believe in evolution.) Colbert then offered Huckabee a graceful exit from the gag, saying he need only repeat the offer again and Colbert would then finally decline it. Huckabee obliged, at which point Colbert cackled "Yes, a thousand times yes. ... I've got my hooks in you mister. See you at the altar."

The only other candidate who crossed the picket lines was Republican Ron Paul, who came on The Tonight Show Monday to ponder with Leno why the Fox network had excluded him from its televised debate. Under Leno's tender ministrations, Paul emerged as honest, sensible, sincere and a real gentleman, but he's also a flaming libertarian and fringe candidate: He probably figured he had nothing to lose by appearing on the struck show.

In good times, if all goes well, these talk-show forays can provide a real boost to a candidate. The phenomenon can be traced back to Bill Clinton's 1992 appearance, with his saxophone, on The Arsenio Hall Show where he unleashed a youthful sex appeal that did him no harm in his bid for the presidency. With Arnold Schwarzenegger's election as governor of California five years ago, the confusion of entertainment and politics in American public life was complete: Today, these late-night performances are a commonplace for politicians, and if they can play an instrument, so much the better.

But talk-show hosts can turn on dull or insincere guests - Letterman most notoriously - and the optics of these political appearances have to be carefully considered at the best of times. Hillary Clinton clearly knew what she was about when she taped the opening words of Letterman's show last week on the eve of the Iowa caucuses. "Dave has been off the air for eight long weeks because of the writers' strike. Tonight he's back. Oh well, all good things come to an end." That was all she said, but with those deftly delivered lines she demonstrated not only her sense of humour but also her leftie credentials: She understands that Letterman is the only guy who has settled with his writers.
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Anyone else think the guy in the center of this picture looks like Mike Sweeney with a beard?


Here's an interesting analysis of the unscripted late night shows.

LATE-NIGHT TV HOSTS: WITHOUT THE WRITERS
Who's lame, who's smug and who wins?

KATE TAYLOR
January 12, 2008
globeandmail.com (Canada's National Newspaper)

Leno is unrepentant. Kimmel is unmoved. Stewart is unhappy. Colbert is almost giddy. O'Brien is erratically brilliant ... and Letterman is very, very smug.

After a two-month absence caused by the continuing strike by American film and television writers, the late-night talk shows are back with a variety of approaches to producing laughs without scripts, most of which seem to involve prolonged jokes about facial hair.

(...snip...)

Oh well, all good things come to an end." That was all she said, but with those deftly delivered lines she demonstrated not only her sense of humour but also her leftie credentials: She understands that Letterman is the only guy who has settled with his writers.


Um. You know, someone owns the copyright on those newspaper articles you're republishing here. And they're not getting paid for their work if you're distributing it for free.

Really, you're no better than the studios.
latenightgoddess
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Thanks so much for posting that picture! Two of my favorite people in showbusiness. It's sad that they have to do this, their talent is so phenomenal. I'm keeping my prayers going strong for them smile.gif
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I get the feeling the strike should not last too much longer. Some articles I've read estimate it to end within two weeks. They attribute this to the directors deal with the AMPTP. My God lets hope so!!!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...0d4560485bedda#

Writers, studios plan to resume talks
By Carl DiOrio
Jan 19, 2008

STRIKE ZONE: LATEST NEWS AND UPDATES

"The WGA will begin informal talks with studio CEOs, perhaps as soon as Monday, in an effort to resume formal negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers.

That news -- from a key WGA source requesting anonymity -- follows Thursday's announcement of a new contract for the DGA. The striking WGA, which hasn't held a negotiating session with the AMPTP since Dec. 7, will study terms of the DGA contract all weekend, the guild insider said.

The WGA negotiating meeting is set to meet Saturday and again on Tuesday, with the WGA board set to meet Tuesday night.

"We're going to follow the same pattern as the DGA," the guild source said, "first meeting with the studio executives informally and then maybe following that up with actual negotiations. But first we have to study all of the details of the DGA deal."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/arts/tel...ml?ref=business

The article link posted above seems to explain it in more detail as to what the directors settlement includes verses what the WGA's are shooting for.

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The directors decided that this was not the time to make a stand on new media, agreeing to revisit compensation for their distribution of their work over the Internet, cellphones and other digital media three years from now. In the meantime, however, they will receive for digital distribution roughly double the residuals rate that has been paid for decades when films and television shows are resold on videocassettes or DVDs, and for the first time be paid a reuse fee for advertising-supported programs streamed free on the Web.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
It seems 2 studios are informally meeting with the WGA leaders tomorrow.
I just hope and pray that the WGA Union Leaders representing our writers remember:

"Small Steps Will Lead To A Big Change"!!! wink.gif

The Directors Guild leaders seem to understand the logic behind 'strategies'...
"A strategy is a long term plan of action designed to achieve a particular goal, most often 'winning'. "

The WGA seems to rely on: 'tactics' -"the actual 'means' (like shutting down the the Globes that people love to watch and bulling high profile supporters like a jay leno)used to gain an objective", doesn't work in this Business. Never has. Trying to 'slam' change is futile. Achieve small steps, is the way to get there.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
Apparently, the entire 'Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers' have agreed to meet informally today and if all goes well they will return to the tables to negotiate. According to the WGA west site.

http://www.wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2204


I am feeling so optimistic. biggrin.gif wub.gif
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
All point to the writers strike ending this week. biggrin.gif

I hope so, I hate the strikes destruction and I miss Conan's family of writers. Even though Conan's comedic timing during each shows have been topnotch... unbelievably funny.
Yet Conan's fellow writers add that 'something rare' too... there own magic to Conan's.

Welcome home soon guys'.

Conan, Thank God for You!!! You've been very fair and extremely good/ loyal to your writers.

And so true to us your fans!!! Love you...
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
It seems Friday the strike will end. Let's hope so, for the sake of everyone's family affected by this.

Conan you did everyone proud by keeping us the fans very entertained and happy while being so true to your staff of writers.

You really are everyone's hero!!! biggrin.gif wub.gif
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http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_8187288
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Draft of proposed deal between writers, studios expected soon
By LYNN ELBER AP Entertainment Writer
Article Launched: 02/06/2008 03:09:52 PM PST

LOS ANGELES—The striking Writers Guild of America is anticipating that lawyers could complete a draft copy of a proposed deal with Hollywood studios by Friday.

The bargaining committee and boards of the East and West Coast guild chapters plan to review the proposal before sharing details Saturday at membership meetings in New York and Los Angeles, said a person close to the situation who was not authorized to comment publicly and requested anonymity.

In an e-mail sent earlier this week to guild members, negotiations committee chief John Bowman said the guild wouldn't make a formal decision on the proposed deal until after the informational membership meetings.

If writers like what they hear Saturday, the closed-door meetings could be a major step toward a resolution of the 3-month-old strike.

The walkout, which began Nov. 5, centers on the issue of compensation for content offered over the Internet.

The outcome of the membership meetings could determine if TV networks will be able to salvage the remainder of the 2007-08 season and if the Feb. 24 Academy Awards ceremony can proceed without pickets.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/s...0cf&k=85022

"Hollywood writers could be back at work Monday
Canwest News Service
Published: Saturday, February 09, 2008
The union representing striking entertainment writers told members Saturday they had reached a "tentative deal" to settle the three-month-long dispute.
"It is an agreement that protects a future in which the Internet becomes the primary means of both content creation and delivery," said a statement e-mailed to Writers Guild of America members Saturday.
The crux of the dispute was the union's demand for a greater share of revenue from film and TV content distributed over the Internet.

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Members of the Writers Guild of America carry signs on the picket line at NBC studios in Burbank, California February 8, 2008. The WGA has called a membership meeting for February 9 to discuss a possible settlement to the three-month-old strike, which could pave the way for the Academy Awards to proceed. REUTERS/Fred Prouser

"When they get paid, we get paid," said the union of the tentative agreement.
Around 10,500 Guild members began strike action on Nov. 5, just four days after their old contract with film and TV studios expired. The Golden Globes ceremony was scrapped due to the action and the upcoming Oscars were placed in jeopardy.
The e-mail statement said that while the Guild admits the agreement was less than perfect and not "perhaps all that we deserve for the countless hours of hard work and sacrifice, our strike has been a success."
Union members meet Saturday on both coasts of the U.S. to examine the minutiae of the agreement and discuss ratification and terms for ending the strike.
"There is much yet to be done and we intend to use all the techniques and relationships we've developed in this strike to make it happen," read the statement."

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OMG Sniff tear!!! Great news!
There is a great possibility the late night writers will be back home on Conan's show as early as this Monday's 2/11 taping!!! I wonder if this was the surprise Aaron Bleyaert was hinting to on his blog the last two days?

Conan we hope you still continue to do those wonderful surprises on your show. It was such a blast. Love you!!!

With that being said... Welcome back Conan's Late Night Team of Fellow WRITERS, we missed your awesomeness!!! whew.gif biggrin.gif wub.gif sad01.gif

The Late Night with Conan O'Brien Writing Staff are:

Mike Sweeney - Head Writer
Brian Stack
Kevin Dorff
Brian McCann
Brian Kiley
Chris Albers
Tim Harrod
Berkley Johnson
Dan Cronin
Jose Arroyo
Andrew Weinberg
Michael Koman
Conan O'Brien
Dan Goor
Michael Gordon
Guy Nicolucci

Some Visiting or reoccurring writers from the past are:
Andy Blitz
Jon Glaser
Demetri Martin
Comedian Louis CK
Robert Smigel (Triumph's creator and operator)

*sorry if i missed anyone!
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080209/ts_al...ke_080209214546
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The New York Times meanwhile cited producers of late-night television talk shows -- which rely heavily on union writers and were the first casualties of the strike -- as saying they expected a return to normalcy next week.

"Everybody is telling everybody to come in Monday," Jeff Ross, the executive producer of 'Late Night With Conan O'Brien' on NBC television, told the Times.


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I'm feeling such a relief and a burst of happiness to see this horrid writers strike finally come to an end.
I just read the WGA members still have 48 hours to decline on the tentative agreement listed below.

Even though they may not have received everything they were asking for it is an important step to reaching their goal in the future.

Arms open wide, for Conan's and all the writers! Welcome Back!!!!
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http://www.wgaeast.org/index.php/articles/...?wgra=1#wga1373

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Summary of the Tentative 2008 WGA AgreementWGAE
February 09, 2008
SUMMARY OF THE TENTATIVE 2008 WGA THEATRICAL

AND TELEVISION BASIC AGREEMENT
This is not a complete summary. The Memorandum of Agreement shall prevail in the case of any inconsistency.

Term of Agreement
From resumption of work through May 1, 2011.
Minimums
Minimum rates generally increase 3.5% each year. The exceptions are: network prime time rates and daytime serial script fees increase 3.0% each period; program fees and the upset price increase once by 3% in the second year; and clip fees increase once by 5% in the third year.


Writing for Made-for New Media
Coverage: The WGA is recognized as the exclusive bargaining representative for writing for new media (such as Internet or cellular technology). Writing for new media is covered by the MBA if:
(1) it is written by a “professional writer” (anyone with a single TV or screen credit, 13
weeks of employment in TV, film or radio, a professionally produced stage play credit or a published novel) or
(2) the program is derivative of an MBA-covered program or
(3) if the budget is above any of three thresholds: $15,000 per minute; $300,000 per
program; or $500,000 per series order. If initially not covered due to the projected
budget but later costs exceed a threshold, the program/series is covered retroactively.
Compensation: If a new media program is derivative of an MBA-covered program, minimums for initial compensation apply. The minimum for derivative dramatic programs is $618 for programs up to two minutes, plus $309 for each additional minute. The minimum for derivative comedy-variety and daytime serials is $360 for programs up to two minutes, plus $180 for each additional minute. The minimum for all other types of derivative programs is $309 for programs up to two minutes, plus $155 for each additional minute. Regardless of the length of the program initial compensation can be no less than the two minute rate. For original programs
initial compensation is negotiable.
Pension and Health Insurance: MBA pension and health provisions apply to all covered writing for new media programs.
Credits: The Guild shall determine credits on all covered new media programs. Credits must appear on-screen (or on a link to the program) if anyone else receives such credit.
Television Reuse: If a covered new media program is reused in traditional media, the usual residuals for a television program apply with minor modifications.
Separated Rights: Creators of original new media material are protected as follows:
(1) If you create an Internet program that becomes a TV series or feature film which you write, traditional separated rights apply.
(2) If you write original material for an Internet program and the Company wants to use it for a TV series or feature film to be written by someone else, the Company must purchase rights from you. The Company may acquire the rights at any time, but
separate compensation must be paid. If you want to sell those rights to another studio,
the Company has a right of first refusal.
(3) If you create an Internet program that is the equivalent of a traditional TV series
(over $25,000 per minute and 20 minutes in length) you are entitled to the same rights as in (2) above, plus sequel payments for each Internet episode based on your program.
Internet Residuals: Initial compensation covers writing services and 13 weeks of availability in new media when the viewer does not pay, and 26 weeks of availability in new media when the viewer pays. After those periods, certain residuals are payable: (i) if a new media program derived from an MBA-covered program or an original new media program with a budget higher than $25,000 per minute is reused in new media, the new media reuse provisions described below apply, except that electronic sell-through is paid at 1.2% of distributor’s gross receipts;
and (ii) for original new media programs, the residual for ad-supported streaming is negotiable, while reuse where the viewer pays is compensated at 1.2% of distributor’s gross receipts.
Other Guild Provisions: A number of standard guild provisions apply to all covered new media programs: Guild shop (writers must join the WGA), no-strike/no-lockout, grievance and arbitration, and timely payment.
Reuse in New Media
Distributor’s Gross Receipts: All revenue-based residuals in new media employ a definition of “distributor’s gross” which eliminates the accounting uncertainty inherent in the concept of “producer’s gross” as found in the home video/DVD formula.
Download Rentals: If the viewer pays for limited new media access to a program, residuals are paid at the rate of 1.2% of distributor’s gross receipts.
Download Sales (Electronic Sell-Through): If the viewer pays for permanent use of the
program, residuals are paid at 0.36% of distributor’s gross receipts for the first 100,000 downloads of a television program and the first 50,000 downloads of a feature. After that, residuals are paid at 0.7% of distributor’s gross receipts for television programs and 0.65% for feature films.
Theatrical Ad-Supported Streaming: Ad-supported streaming of feature films produced after July 1, 1971 is payable at 1.2% of distributor’s gross receipts.
Television Ad-Supported Streaming (Library): Ad-supported streaming of television programs produced after 1977 (and a small number produced prior to 1977) are payable at 2% of distributor’s gross receipts.

Television Ad-Supported Streaming (New Programs): Ad-supported streaming of television programs is payable at 2% of distributor’s gross receipts one year from the end of an initial streaming window.


Initial Streaming Window: There is an initial window of 17 days (24 days for episodes of the first season of a series, one-off television programs, and MOWs) with no residual. This window must include or occur contiguous to the initial television exhibition.
Residual Payment (Network Prime Time): In the first and second years of this
contract, after the initial window, for network prime time television programs, a fixed
residual of 3% of the residual base (“applicable minimum”) is paid for each of up to two 26-week periods. For an hour program, this fee is $654 per period in the first year of the contract; $677 per period in the second year. For a half-hour the figures are $360 and $373. In the third year of this contract, the 2% of distributor’s gross formula is applied immediately after the initial streaming window. The contract sets an imputed value for up to 26 weeks of such distributor’s gross at $40,000 for an hour program and $20,000 for a half hour program. So, for the third year the formula pays a residual of $800 for an hour program and $400 for a half hour program for each potential 26-week period in the year after the initial streaming window. If the Network’s exclusivity expires prior to one year after the end of the initial window, the 2% of distributor’s gross receipts begins without the imputed value. In the case of a 26-week period being truncated by the end of the year after the end of the initial streaming window, the payment is prorated. Residual Payment (All Other Programs): After the initial streaming window, a fixed residual of 3% of the residual base (the “applicable minimum”) is paid for each of up to two 26-week periods in the first two years of this contract. In the third year of this contract, the payment rate rises to 3.5% of the residual base.
Fair Market Value: New media residuals based on transactions between related parties are subject to a test of reasonableness when compared to transactions between unrelated parties.

Access to Information: The companies agree to provide the Guild with access to new media deals and distribution statements, without redaction, and usage data during the term of the contract.

Clips: Clips are defined as excerpts of less than five minutes for episodic TV or ten minutes for features or long-form TV. A company can use a clip for a promotional purpose without payment. Where a clip is not promotional and the viewer does not pay, the fee for the clip in new media is paid at the rate of the lesser of $50 or the residual payable under the Reuse Sideletter for a clip under two minutes; the lesser of $150 or the residual payable the Reuse Sideletter for a clip between two and four minutes; and for a clip longer than four minutes, the residual payable under the Reuse Sideletter. Where the viewer pays, the fee for use of a clip is 1.2% of distributor’s gross receipts.
Promotion: A clip can be used without payment to promote theatrical, television or new media exhibition if the clip contains “tune-in”, rental or purchase information. No payment is due for non-commercial “viral” release of clips from a theatrical or television motion picture. Promotion does not include the use of clips if the primary purpose of the exhibition is to permit viewing of archived or aggregated clips on a new media site (e.g., dailyshow.com).
Pension and Health Fund Provisions
Health Fund: The contribution rate shall continue to be 8˝% from the start of the contract through September 30, 2008. The contribution rate shall be 8% for the period of October 1, 2008 through March 31, 2009. Thereafter the rate shall return to 8˝%. A sideletter resolves a pending dispute about the Health Fund contribution rate.

Pension Fund: The contribution rate remains at 6% for this contract.
Contribution Caps: For theatrical motion pictures and long-form television motion pictures, the ceiling on which Pension Plan contributions are based is increased to $225,000 ($450,000 for team of 3). For long-form television motion pictures, the ceiling on which Health Fund contributions are based is increased to $250,000 ($500,000 for a team of 3). A cap of $350,000 ($700,000 for a team of 3) is established as the ceiling on which Pension Plan and Health Fund contributions are based for daytime serial writers.
Other: The Guild and the Companies will jointly fund a study of new IRS regulations. We agreed how contributions will be paid when a writer is employed on a development deal under Article 14.E.2. and, under the same contract, is employed to perform Article 14.K. services on a series for which the writer receives additional money which is not creditable.
Other Provisions
Made-for Pay TV Residuals: The annual residual payments increase from $3,000 to $3,500 for a half-hour program and from $5,000 to $6,000 for an hour program.
Product Integration: The company will consult with the showrunner when a commercial
product is to be integrated into the storyline of an episode of a dramatic series.
Showrunner Training Program: The AMPTP and Networks will increase funding for this
program to: $225,000 for year 1 of the MBA; $150,000 for year 2; and $150,000 for year 3.
Television Recap Clips: The total length of clips that can be used to recap the story in a 60- minute or longer program is extended from 90 seconds to 3 minutes before requiring payment.
Tri-Guild Audit Fund: The companies renew the funding of the Tri-Guild Audit Fund.
Residuals Reporting/Electronic Data Transfer: Each company shall meet with the Guild to establish a method of transfer for electronic reporting of residuals information.
Lists of Arbitrators: Arbitrators were added to the lists by both the Guild and the companies.

Foreign Remakes: Alternative terms were agreed for foreign remakes of MBA-covered scripts.
Limited Syndication of Half-Hour Programs: A little-used sideletter specifying a discounted residual for half hour series in limited syndication was renewed.
Television Separated Rights for a Derivative Theatrical Film: The company has an
opportunity to match an offer to purchase feature film rights from the separated rights holder.
Committee on Alternative Digital Broadcast Channels: The Guild agreed to participate in a committee to explore the use of alternative digital broadcast channels.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080209/ts_al...ke_080209214546


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I'm feeling such a relief and a burst of happiness to see this horrid writers strike finally come to an end.
I just read the WGA members still have 48 hours to decline on the tentative agreement listed below.

Even though they may not have received everything they were asking for it is an important step to reaching their goal in the future.

Arms open wide, for Conan's and all the writers! Welcome Back!!!!
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http://www.wgaeast.org/index.php/articles/...?wgra=1#wga1373


It would be nice if the union set aside some of what they've gained, and rightfully so, to help offset the collateral damage their strike created. But those companies with no say in the disagreement will obviously end up with the short end of the stick, having to live with the losses they've suffered due to the strike.
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QUOTE (willis1 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:35 PM) *
It would be nice if the union set aside some of what they've gained, and rightfully so, to help offset the collateral damage their strike created. But those companies with no say in the disagreement will obviously end up with the short end of the stick, having to live with the losses they've suffered due to the strike.



I know what you mean about the Unions.... hmmm My dad, my hero was union though so I see both sides. Anyway, at least it's over on Wednesday. Yay. I am just sooooo thrilled the writers are back and everyone can start to heal after this long strike.

Sniff Tear. Hey, then Aaron gets to shave!!!! Good Lord Aaron was a real trooper for the writers growing that beard for soooo long as did Chill, and Joel. *Hugs* Bley.
I am so glad beloved Conan shaved when he did. whew.gif
latenightgoddess
STRIKE IS LIFTED


WGA MEMBERS RETURN TO WORK ON WEDNESDAY, Feb. 13


Members of the Writers Guilds, East and West voted overwhelmingly to have the WGAE Council and WGAW Board lift the restraining order (the strike) and return to work. The restraining order was lifted immediately upon the results of the vote and all WGA members will be returning to work effective immediately.
WGA members, working under the MBA contract, must still vote to ratify the contract. The ratification vote will take place by mail and in membership meetings on February 25, 2008.

http://wgaeast.org/
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asdfjkgeit3!!!!!!!! qriowjqgehgo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I feel like my life can now be whole again. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Conan needs to feature the writers on the show tomorrow. They've been gone for much too long.
Conan_the_shootingstar4nbc1
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STRIKE IS LIFTED


WGA MEMBERS RETURN TO WORK ON WEDNESDAY, Feb. 13


Members of the Writers Guilds, East and West voted overwhelmingly to have the WGAE Council and WGAW Board lift the restraining order (the strike) and return to work. The restraining order was lifted immediately upon the results of the vote and all WGA members will be returning to work effective immediately.
WGA members, working under the MBA contract, must still vote to ratify the contract. The ratification vote will take place by mail and in membership meetings on February 25, 2008.

http://wgaeast.org/
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asdfjkgeit3!!!!!!!! qriowjqgehgo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I feel like my life can now be whole again. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Conan needs to feature the writers on the show tomorrow. They've been gone for much too long.

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful!!!! Yes, I hope to see all those writer's faces Wednesday!!!! Sniff Tear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel happy and at peace now.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Welcome home our dear Late Night Writers.
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