deas-nuts
Oct 28 2007, 11:36 AM
Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
Uncle_Jerry
Oct 28 2007, 11:59 AM
What about people who create new accounts for the purpose of creating a new thread for an intellectual discussion?
blackdogrocks
Oct 28 2007, 12:00 PM
You could start a poll and if you get enough votes in favor of it, maybe they will implement it.
deas-nuts
Oct 28 2007, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (BobbyLight @ Oct 28 2007, 12:59 PM)

What about people who create new accounts for the purpose of creating a new thread for an intellectual discussion?
I think there are plenty of discussions that are started each week by either verteran posters or that MODS start that a new poster can get right into. Once they have their feet under them, then they can start threads at free will. I just think that this simple rule would stop troll threads and the over abundance of redundant threads...
I have been on other boards that have a system like this and it would work to NBC's advantage.
deas-nuts
Oct 28 2007, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (blackdog3428 @ Oct 28 2007, 01:00 PM)

You could start a poll and if you get enough votes in favor of it, maybe they will implement it.
Good idea.
GabrielSylarGray
Oct 28 2007, 12:38 PM
I think thats a good idea. It would help stop spamming.
blackdogrocks
Oct 28 2007, 02:54 PM
I like it. As long as it's not a very long probationary period. Just enough to keep one hit wonder trolls off.
Pedroff
Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 28 2007, 12:36 PM)

Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
Excellent idea, I agree wholeheartedly.
P.S.: I voted Yes and 15-20.
Uncle_Jerry
Oct 28 2007, 04:17 PM
trolls could still do stuff, it would just be harder and take them longer...so they might not think it is worth it
btw i voted yes cus im a new member and ive already got a bunch of posts
Taura-Tierno
Oct 28 2007, 05:53 PM
Yes, and 15-20. I think I managed that many in my first day or two here

If you've got a brand new theory, odds are that you'll have points to add to other discussions as well, and it doesn't really take that must of an effort to manage 20 posts
Meatham
Oct 28 2007, 06:15 PM
Is it that hard to ignore the ******* post? If it bothers you, don't open it! Simple! You'd think half the people complaining about trolls really enjoy them.. because they fuel the fire that they hate so much.
betsybraddock
Oct 28 2007, 06:24 PM
I think the idea is good not only for trolls, really, but also for new people that aren't familiar to the boards, it kind of forces them to learn how to search or read other topics.
Problem is, trolls will ALWAYS find a way to troll. It's their thing.
Pedroff
Oct 28 2007, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (Meat @ Oct 28 2007, 06:15 PM)

Is it that hard to ignore the ******* post?
Like you ignored this thread?
ILOVEMILO
Oct 28 2007, 07:50 PM
i agree i think new people should wait but also- like me- people could have just started a new account for any reason so that might be a problem but i guess people could wait
Guest123
Oct 28 2007, 07:54 PM
15 to 20 posts?
That is easily done....so how can it be effective?
Needs to be more, I think. How about 200?
ILOVEMILO
Oct 28 2007, 07:56 PM
200 is a bit much.. there wouldnt be verry many threads to even post on.. maybe 40 or 50.
Barahir
Oct 28 2007, 08:34 PM
I said yes. I'm a new poster here and am already tired of having to browse through garbage to get to the good stuff. Plus it would put an end to all the people that spend the time to make an account simply to post a thread bashing the show. Good idea Deas.
abomination
Oct 28 2007, 08:34 PM
Brilliant idea. 20 posts seem fair.
Zodiac
Oct 28 2007, 09:00 PM
What a bunch of retarded, elitist, hypocritical crap. You actually think that people should have to 'earn' the right to post on a PUBLIC message board?
I hate moronic spam just as much as the next person but that is what moderators are for.
LordHenryWotton
Oct 28 2007, 09:01 PM
I fear escalation. A post count won't keep the post trolls away. It'll just increase the overall junk on the other threads. Posts like:
"I want to start a thread but NBC won't let me so I guess I'll say something here... yakkity yakkity."
I'd love to keep the single post threads down but in practice I'm afraid this'll backfire.
Also, NBC botches everything. The less they change the less they break.
RALYS2
Oct 28 2007, 09:43 PM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 28 2007, 11:36 AM)

Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
Absolutely positively what I was thinking. lots of negative one post trolling has been apparent lately.
20 post minimum sounds great, look learn listen then post.
Meatham
Oct 29 2007, 03:51 AM
QUOTE (Pedroff @ Oct 28 2007, 07:44 PM)

Like you ignored this thread?

Yes, if it bothered me.. I would have ignored it. It's good you almost get what I was saying.. but you may need to read it again, and remember what your teacher always said! "Don't read to finish, read to understand!"
First of all, 20 posts for someone that isn't a forum ***** all day is just about ridiculous. I've been reading topics since about the beginning of this season.. and signed up with I found something I wanted to discuss about 2 weeks ago.. and I have below 20. Not all of my posts are on topic either.
If people really hated those threads so much, they'd ignore them and the poster. I usually read forums for a good week or two before actually signing up, and I usually only sign up when I have a question or something to discuss. So, you guys want to make people work so they can ask or actually converse with someone because a few numbnuts decided to post two threads in a list of twenty?
You have good intentions in mind with this poll.. but you aren't thinking it through clearly. Why implement something that can so easily be implemented by not clicking on someones topic? Are you aware that people want your attention when they make 20 accounts a week to avoid bans? Are you aware that you are giving them your attention when you post in their topics calling them **** heads?
Thank you for your time!
Signed,
Average poster for 2 weeks with less than 20 posts.
Meatham
Oct 29 2007, 04:12 AM
I'd also like to point out that this would just bring more spam to other posts that are probably having a nice discussion. I think it's a little better to keep the unconstructive/useless chat in their own topic rather than in someone elses productive post.
I wont lie. I wouldn't mind posting in every single topic without reading the original post. I know plenty of people that wouldn't hesitate to do that just to get to their topic. You really think this lazy attempt at kicking flamers away would actually make things better?
This would be like technology. Sure.. it makes things easier.. but at what cost? Cars make it easier and faster to get places, but you become lazy and sometimes unhealthy. Cars pollute the air causing trouble for future generations. Machines take peoples jobs, and they can't feed their families.. etc..
As far as I've seen, some of the people that consider themselves the good guys can be considered forum trolls also. They may not fuel as many fires as some, but they don't mind tossing some gas in that direction when they get the chance.
deas-nuts
Oct 29 2007, 07:34 AM
QUOTE (Zodiac @ Oct 28 2007, 10:00 PM)

What a bunch of retarded, elitist, hypocritical crap. You actually think that people should have to 'earn' the right to post on a PUBLIC message board?
I hate moronic spam just as much as the next person but that is what moderators are for.

I am not saying people cannot post...they just can't start their own thread right away. How many one post threads get posted here EVERYDAY? I will tell you, too many.
New members would be allowed to POST in threads that are already started and once they get their feet underneath them, then they can start THREADS.
President Sylar
Oct 29 2007, 11:17 AM
You're right "LordHenryWotton'" NBC would screw it up.
geotank
Oct 29 2007, 11:38 AM
QUOTE (LordHenryWotton @ Oct 28 2007, 09:01 PM)

A post count won't keep the post trolls away. It'll just increase the overall junk on the other threads. Posts like:
"I want to start a thread but NBC won't let me so I guess I'll say something here... yakkity yakkity."
I'd love to keep the single post threads down but in practice I'm afraid this'll backfire.
I think this will happen as well, we already got the one nub that spammed on every thread in the entire forum....
"OMG i can't believe **** is going to die......."
that being said i voted for it anyway ... give it a try.
ZNakamura
Oct 29 2007, 11:39 AM
This is a fabulous idea, I can't tell you how often I am redirecting people to an old thread on topics that have previously been discussed.
Guest123
Oct 29 2007, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (President Sylar @ Oct 29 2007, 11:17 AM)

You're right "LordHenryWotton'" NBC would screw it up.
If the Mods would just delete threads with misspelled words in the titles, that would eliminate
some of the odious threads.
blackdogrocks
Oct 29 2007, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 29 2007, 11:46 AM)

If the Mods would just delete threads with misspelled words in the titles, that would eliminate some of the odious threads.
I'd be in trouble then. When I get to typing fast my spelling and grammar suck.
Guest123
Oct 29 2007, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (blackdog3428 @ Oct 29 2007, 11:48 AM)

QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 29 2007, 11:46 AM)

If the Mods would just delete threads with misspelled words in the titles, that would eliminate some of the odious threads.
I'd be in trouble then. When I get to typing fast my spelling and grammar suck.
Ha....sorry, Blackdog. That would be a shame, too....your threads are usually always substantive, and have merit.
blackdogrocks
Oct 29 2007, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (Guest123 @ Oct 29 2007, 12:40 PM)

I'd be in trouble then. When I get to typing fast my spelling and grammar suck.
Ha....sorry, Blackdog. That would be a shame, too....your threads are usually always substantive, and have merit.
Aww, shucks!
deas-nuts
Oct 29 2007, 03:00 PM
No input from the MODS?
Pedroff
Oct 29 2007, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (Meat @ Oct 29 2007, 03:51 AM)

Yes, if it bothered me..
Yet you didn't, how hypercritical.
deas-nuts
Oct 29 2007, 07:57 PM
I haven't seen this many votes on a topic in one day...ever...
Dr. Thomas Wonder
Oct 29 2007, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 28 2007, 12:36 PM)

Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
Deas... I am in
TOTAL AGGREEMENT WITH YOU, 100% !!!PLEASE, NBC... ACKNOWLEDGE and RESPECT the CLARION CALLS FOR
REASON! ! ! !
I am near-upto my "Wit's End" with having to ...
SLOUGH through the SLOUGH of the inanity, the ineptitude of thought and perception, the inflamatory and downright the PEDESTRIAN and PUERILE --- even SHABBY, at times! --- babbling, or the cursed offal and dung that passes itself off by Pretenders and Miscreants who are either:
#1:too LAZY to really make the effort to simply Take Pause and RESEARCH before Mouthing off their opinions or (which is second nature/effortless to genuine Heroe's fans)
#2: Are malcontents trying to rile/agitate the loyal and faithful who TRULY LOVE this show...
PLEASE.... MORE THAN "CONSIDER" DOING THIS....
NOW ! !
blackdogrocks
Oct 30 2007, 08:26 AM
Bump-worthy! Let's get more votes.
Dr. Thomas Wonder
Oct 30 2007, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (blackdog3428 @ Oct 30 2007, 09:26 AM)

Bump-worthy! Let's get more votes.
D'Accord !! Bump-bump, Bump-ity-Bump!!
Ando_the_Great
Oct 30 2007, 11:04 AM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 28 2007, 11:36 AM)

Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
I think it's ridiculous. I'm a new member, and I feel that in the few posts I've written, I've contributed more than a lot of the joke posters in this forum. Although I don't have a new thread I want to create just yet, I think I should be able to even if I don't have the 15-20 posts that people seem to be wanting to set the bar for. Moderators don't need to over-police a forum that seems to be doing just fine.
Moderation requires just that, moderation.
Meatham
Oct 30 2007, 11:23 AM
QUOTE (Pedroff @ Oct 29 2007, 03:37 PM)

Yet you didn't, how hypercritical.

This thread hurt my feelings as someone that casually watches the show. I wanted to cry the minute I read that the veteran fans of this television show were so torn by the hurtful comments left by one time posters. I must have just wanted to take it out on you. My bad. I was a HypOcrite. Please, don't let our friendship end over this television show forum.
StormyKnight
Oct 30 2007, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (Zodiac @ Oct 28 2007, 09:00 PM)

What a bunch of retarded, elitist, hypocritical crap. You actually think that people should have to 'earn' the right to post on a PUBLIC message board?
I hate moronic spam just as much as the next person but that is what moderators are for.

I couldn't agree more. Did these dorkchops go to a public school where they weren't allowed to talk freely until they said twenty intelligent things? Oops! ................Still waiting!
deas-nuts
Oct 30 2007, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (StormyKnight @ Oct 30 2007, 12:39 PM)

I couldn't agree more. Did these dorkchops go to a public school where they weren't allowed to talk freely until they said twenty intelligent things? Oops! ................Still waiting!
My suggestion allows free speech...just in threads that are already started. I see no problem with new members having to post / read other threads before beginning their own..which more than likely already has a discussion that is already here.
Joker444
Oct 30 2007, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 28 2007, 12:36 PM)

Here is a suggestion to the MODS and the NBC board...how about implementing a rule that a new poster cannot start their OWN thread until they have posted/ replied in other threads for a while say like 20 posts.
This causes two things to happen, #1 it makes new posters have to SEARCH for topics that have already been discussed and #2 it would stop TROLLS from creating a one time thread that does nothing but start inflammatory rants and discussions.
What does everyone think? How do I get this suggestion to someone who can make a decision?
I enjoy reading what new people have to say. I don't enjoy message board veterans who act like their opinion is more valid just because they spend all day bashing new posters and calling them trolls. The word troll itself is so overplayed here, it's like when grandpa learns a new word and has to use it every chance he gets completely diminishing all value of it. I'm thinking some people take the veteran message board badge a little too seriously. Thinking that they would even humor this idea just shows that some of you seem to live in your own little world. This thread is completely ego driven and quite humorous.
Thank you to those who frequent the boards and don't have the big man on campus complex.
deas-nuts
Oct 30 2007, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (Joker444 @ Oct 30 2007, 12:45 PM)

Thank you to those who frequent the boards and don't have the big man on campus complex.
This idea is to stop people from being 1 post trolls that start unnecessary and blantly flame baiting threads.
I don't have a big man on campus complex...I want to see the boards be less negative in general.
StormyKnight
Oct 30 2007, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (deas-nuts @ Oct 30 2007, 11:44 AM)

My suggestion allows free speech...just in threads that are already started. I see no problem with new members having to post / read other threads before beginning their own..which more than likely already has a discussion that is already here.
If it has a discussion that is already here the threads are merged. So what's the harm in someone jumping in right away? If trolls appear that's what the 'report' button is for. Now see? I came here to discuss last night's episode and I get caught up in a bunch of political BS.
Ando_the_Great
Oct 30 2007, 11:58 AM
If people want to start their tenure in this forum off by baiting others, that is there prerogative. It's not, well, it shouldn't, be up to moderators to decide who and who can't post yet. If somebody wants to come in and post a question, let them. If somebody wants to come in and start a flame-war, moderators can handle it via the duties they are assigned.
I'm beginning to think this thread was created more to make things easier on the mods and less because the mods want to see this forum "improve".
Pedroff
Oct 30 2007, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (Meat @ Oct 30 2007, 11:23 AM)

Please, don't let our friendship end over this television show forum.
Buddy you're a new person, I don't even know you, all that was asked of you in this thread is not to troll like the rest of the brainless.
deas-nuts
Oct 30 2007, 02:01 PM
It was just a SUGGESTION afterall.
The majority of the voters do agree with the poll though.
ILOVEMILO
Oct 30 2007, 10:45 PM
im just tired of two-post-new people rollling up in here and posting anoying threads where they dont even know what there talking about- or worse they dont even know the names of the characters!
sorry if that sounds mean but.. it gets really anoying after a while...
synch
Oct 31 2007, 01:02 AM
Not only should the posting limit be instituted, I really think the boards should adopt the 24 hour waiting period that a large number of other boards have instituted before they're allowed to post at all. (Several boards do that, and it doesn't seem to have hurt the users and members at all.)
abomination
Oct 31 2007, 03:03 PM
I'm bumping this.
I want a mod to see this and seriously consider Deas' idea. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing people who join for the sole purpose of starting ridiculous threads. I understand that we could simply ignore them but it's getting to the point where it's getting out of hand. I mean C'mon, seriously.
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