Totally agree, she was really emotional when she had the talk with Casey, and she really cooled off later on.

yes totally

Respectfully, I very much disagree. That conversation at the Buy More was about her wanting to apologize. She was cruel to Chuck, knew it, and regretted it. I think the point was stressed in her brief chat with Bryce in back of the car that Sarah isn't good at communicating her feelings. Notice Chuck took the lead in the entire conversation in the store. Sarah just isn't comfortable doing that. I think (and many appear to agree) that Sarah was not pleased to hear our hero use the word 'friends'. She seemed to be hoping to go back to the way things were before the kiss when she could flirt and tease without outright letting the intersect know she likes him. There seemed to be a real comfort zone for her then. It was safe and she was in control Her mentioning her lack of skills pertaining to relationships, I believe, was her way of saying sorry and the closest she could get to expressing she liked Chuck. Now, at the hotdog shop, I think she was anticipating that Chuck was going to initiate that "talk", which he did before to break up with her, and she did NOT want to do it. Was this because she was working? How many conversations have occurred there while she was working?
She probably thinks Chuck as closed the door on the possibility of romance so she now has to take the initiative, and this might be what is in store in the coming episodes.

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This is exactly how I saw it, too.


So even up to this point, Sarah is still not ready to have that conversation she talked to Casey about or to have a conversation in which she has to open up emotionally and talk about her and Chuck's relationship. But she is totally willing to listen once she realized that Chuck was still focused on the case. I think this is the beginning of when she realizes that Chuck was more focused (i.e. professional) on the mission than she was and that she was wrong to accuse Chuck of letting his emotions interfere with the mission. So by the time she comes to the Buy More, she wants to apologize to Chuck. What is not clear to me is how she arrived at the point of telling Chuck that she is not good at relationships. To me, there is a gap in Sarah's thinking process that we as fans have not been allowed to see.

I think personally she came in with no game plan, and was just winging it understanding she had to do something. But no idea of what or how?

^^^ i agree, because she seemed to hesitate and she didn't know what to say. it was Chuck initiating conversation, if i remember correctly

Me 3!!!, Agree as well.

I believe Sarah was hesistant because she was going to tell Chuck she wanted him; but she has had no experience of any sort in that department, so she came off weird, and the combination of that and Chuck wanting to protect her; thus came the offer of friends. Sarah saying she wasn't good at relationships was a huge step, I think.

Me four! Ha ha ha ha...

I think that the whole purpose of the episode was to show the inner conflict that Sarah was feeling between her professional side and her emotional side. Between the kiss that she gave Chuck and then choosing Chuck over Bryce, who until then she thought was the love of her life, made her realize how deep her feelings for Chuck were, and how inappropriate it was of her proffessionaly. I think she over compensated for it which explains why she acted so coldly towards him. I think she was having problems with this decision because of actions like trying to straighten his tie at her room, the look she gave him in her car, and of course her conversation with Casey. I think that there are 2 possibilities of why her attitude changed so much at the party. 1: Because Chuck proved that he didn't fake the flash, so that wasn't a problem she had to worry about anymore. 2: (My favorite) She decided that she was going to follow her emotions, and if needed, would resign from the CIA. She seemed a little hesitant when walking up to Chuck. I had the feeling that she wanted to say something to him but didn't know how. I am beginning to think the eventually what will happen it that Chuck will become more important, probably because of some problem with the new intersect, and the higher ups will come to the conclusion that it would be better for one of their own to become romanicly involved than an outsider.

I forgot to mention that if Sarah wanted to stop things cold with Chuck all she had to do is when he asked her if the kiss was because his were the most available or did it have to do with him, is tell him she would have kissed anyone half way descent due to the situation. That would have crushed any hopes that Chuck might of had about her and him. Instead she said that it was a mistake, which pretty much said that the kiss was about him.

Very true. Her response revealed her true inner feeling, but Chuck doesn't realize it yet...

I think that Chuck realizes at least at some level that Sarah likes him. Otherwise, she would never have kissed him. It's just that she is not owning up to her feelings and actually allowing the relationship to go to the next level. And as it has been brought up before, Sarah could easily shut the door for good (and I'm sure Chuck knows what that's like, considering his past dating history) but she won't do that either.

^^^That's true...

Very apt summation. Good job.

I think Chuck is very aware of Sarahs feelings for him, but he also knows that shes conflicted about her work/him.

I agree, and I think that when Sarah takes the initiative it will atleast be partially verbal where there cannot be any mistake or doubt as to exactly what she means.

The only thing I would add to this is at this point in the story line. It will take some sort of life changing event in one of the characters life's to get her to make a move at this point. She will have to have her back against the wall and forced to roll the dice and go all in. I think we got a small taste of that in the last scene at the buy-more party. But as I have said in earlier post, she had no idea and winged it. I believe when she does do something it will have to be very spontaneous and awkward for her.

I think it would have probably Sarah witness Chuck close to death. Let say he runs into a building that is about to explode to save someone. All the exits are blocked in, he can't find a way out, talks to sarah about his situation and she beings to tell him how she feels with Casey hearing all this. Somehow he finds a way out at the last second and you then have you're awkward moment, which has just sparked another scenerio in my head. I have to write it down before I forget it.

Yea, but it definitely has to be Sarah who does it, as Im pretty sure that Chuck would jump into a relationship with Sarah in a heartbeat.

I still like the idea that Sarah has to suck it up and confess her feelings to Chuck, because that's what Chuck keeps waiting for.

Then Chuck could step up and act (read: kiss) Sarah, because that's what Sarah has been waiting for.

And then, of course, they'd get interrupted, because nothing is ever easy.

I'd say less then a heartbeat, if that's possible...

And the next time they kiss, I want Chuck to be the one to do it so bad.

Ooo... +1

I really do hope Chuck initiates that second kiss. Just to show that Sarah's not the only one who can wear the pants in the relationship.

I do too. It would be great to see Chuck in the driver's seat for once and Sarah following him around.

Its going to take some pretty strong signals from Sarah for Chuck to initiate the kiss.

^^^ You never know. Chuck might just get fed up with the whole thing, and grab Sarah and kiss her. That would be great.

^^^ Yeah have Chuck just give her a long kiss unexpectedly and have Sarah just linger there afterwards in a daze.

^^^YA I'm sure that'll be what he does!



I think it's called a nano second...

Chuck will kiss Sarah, but not because it's an intimate situation. Instead, it'll be a situation like when Sarah and Chuck were in the closet. The kiss he plants on her will be the fastest thing he could think of (and probably their only option...in front of other people and Casey), like what Sarah did to him.

If you have ever seen the movie Gattaca, it will be like that.

I would still rather have Sarah kiss him, but do it without a life threatening situation.

^^^ That would be nice as well; heck, any kiss between the two of them would be. Maybe one where they both rush at each other, to satisfy all parties.

Any kiss between them will be fine with me too, but we already saw a life threatening situation kiss. Maybe after becoming good friends, Chuck does something cute for Sarah, and it overwhelms her with emotion. So they make out That'll be really romantic in my book!

+1 One other thought I had on this, Chuck is so afraid of losing her at this point. Any signals she may try to send him will either be ignored or cause confusion/frustration on his part.

Yes, chuck is in defensive mode.

I disagree that Chuck is so afraid of losing Sarah. Don't get me wrong, I do think Chuck wants to be with Sarah more than anything, but I don't get the sense that Chuck is desperate or needy. He just wants something real, he always has. If anything, I think he now knows that Sarah really cares about him, and he knows his own feelings for her. He has, however, for the moment at least, backed off from pushing the point to Sarah.

Maybe, but I think he is. Remember when he spent like an hour staring through the window at the Buymore waiting for Sarah porsche to appear and park? He was really worried that Sarah had left him for Bryce. He was afraid he had lost her...

I agree with you that at the beginning of the episode he was acting a bit that way. I was trying to assess where Chuck was at the end of the episode when he and Sarah had the "friends" conversation at the Buy More.

Chuck may have backed off for the time being, but he still wants her and I think in the future he become more pushy.

Exactly the way I feel about it.

I think Nun_Chuck and Sharpasmarble are correct, after all the drama, and emotional turmoil (kissing chuck, bryce back alive, bryce kiss, bryce shot, chuck shot, bryce invitation, chuck life opportunity, career jeopardy). Sarah just seemed to desperately wanted things back to normal with chuckles. On top of that, I think her mild surprise at the "friends" thing was the same as when she thought he was gonna kiss her at Truth, only to break up with her. Hot women tend to short circuit in the head when they're dumped, or not sought as the object of affection. The concept of having to work at it makes it all the more real and valuable. Another hot celeb i know actually married a rather nerd herdy guy recently and told me the thing that what drove her nuts was that it was the 1st relationship where she had to do work to get HIM back. Usually it was the guys trying to get her back. But it simultaneously made her feel like a real girl and not just the hot celebrity b/c here she was this girl trying to learn how to get this guy she was head over heels over and not at all accustomed to having to make a relationship work that wasn't just based on raw mutual attraction.

I think Sarah knows how to be the spy, to seduce, to develop an asset etc. It's the slow putting short game she has to learn. And chuck is the perfect guy to help her get there. I love this relationship.

Ya, I just realized that's what you meant...sorry



Indeed!

Not at all! BTW, your fan art's great.

Thank you!

At least they are finally back on track. And a real one at that. As they both stated they would be friends, it has started on a real basis to grow. In the Crown Vic episode, she also fully confirmed that she is not with Bryce anymore. This last tidbit, was the fact she stayed and that she told Chuck in no uncertain terms (while emotional) that Bryce is not her boyfriend.

Of course, I would still like to see some sleepy/type kiss from Sarah with her guard down.
i.e. some future episode where they are on the run (Sarah/Chuck) and they have fallen asleep (clothed) and just as they are waking up (she is snuggled/draped across his chest), she groggily gives him a good morning kiss. At which point they both wakeup. He could even quietly(& politely) ask "Another mistake?". Assuming she says no, then he could smile gently and respond 'good morning to you too'.

How far down the line that would have to be, I'm not sure, but I would expect late in the season.

That would be so sweet... a bright light in a otherwise dire situation...

With the life threatening missions, the different experiences, and with Sarah being so jealous of Lou and staying with Chuck instead of going with Bryce, I think that Chuck's self confidence has been constantly growing. In fact I think that by the Christmas party Chuck was in the driver's seat as far as the relationship between him and Sarah goes. All of the choices made as far as their interaction goes was made by Chuck. I think that Chuck has made a councious decision as to how they should proceed and he has decided to arrange things so that the next major step will have to made by Sarah and there will be no doubts, no excuses, and no misunderstandings as to her intentions/feelings. Only after all of their cards are on the table, so to speak, can they then progress.

Agreed, looks like to use a poker reference Chuck has raised the stakes.

^^^ To me it seems that both Chuck and Sarah are content just checking it to the river and never betting out.

haha! poker analogies! if I may?

I wouldn't say they are checking through till the river, my guess is that this is the round of betting after the flop(bryce+sarah+chuck ), chuck raised (establishing to her and the viewers that he "likes" Sarah ultimately dumping her cause he couldn't fool himself) representing he had a good hand of the situation. Then Sarah re-raised by trying to disguise her feelings as "work" playing the bluff perfectly! (chuck Vs. The Crown Vic) chuck calls her raise, by offering "friends" by now he's slow playing the hand to see what she'll do on the next card, the 2 cards that await are the turn (Sarah does something irrational to show her inner feelings, she goes all in, or chuck goes all in) and the river(they hookup, Sarah goes all in, chuck goes all in). Either way the next 2 cards won't give our hero or heroine an option to fold they've got monster hands!! little do they know they'll end up splitting the "pot" (love)..I think that made some sense, someone please correct me if I am wrong.